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Mr. Rob
12-09-2006, 07:38 PM
Hey everyone. i'm rob, i own a 1997 mustang gt. it has a PI headswap, compression ratio is 10:1 , stock intake with filter area cut out, screen removed and k&n installed, PI lower intake, accufab 75mm throttle body, C&L plenum, mac pulleys, MSD coil packs, mac off-road H pipe, mac cat-back system, 4:10 gears, it was dyno tested with 249 hp, 293 torq at the rear wheels b4 the mac underdrive pulleys and msd coils, this was at strope speed shop on a dynojet dyno. and for some reason i think it should've made more with all this stuff, is this normal HP gain for this car with this stuff? or is something wrong, but i'm using the cams that came with the heads, no porting, stock intake and stock tune. car ran 14.01 @ 102mph at pittsburgh raceway park on street tires and spinning horribly. anyone out there that can help me out please feel free to message me with any tips, again my question is is this normal hp gain for this car? or should it have been better?, Thanks again, Rob.:thmbsup:
shawnsvtcobra
12-09-2006, 07:42 PM
Welcome to SCS.
87notch
12-09-2006, 11:11 PM
Welcome to the site Rob:awsome:
INSANELY CRAZY
12-09-2006, 11:46 PM
welcome...
lib88stang
12-09-2006, 11:55 PM
Welcome.:goodidea:
went9s
12-10-2006, 01:04 AM
dont know what what hp to expect. what 60ft did you pull on your pass.
Pure Stock
12-10-2006, 01:30 AM
Hey everyone. i'm rob, i own a 1997 mustang gt. it has a PI headswap, compression ratio is 10:1 , stock intake with filter area cut out, screen removed and k&n installed, PI lower intake, accufab 75mm throttle body, C&L plenum, mac pulleys, MSD coil packs, mac off-road H pipe, mac cat-back system, 4:10 gears, it was dyno tested with 249 hp, 293 torq at the rear wheels b4 the mac underdrive pulleys and msd coils, this was at strope speed shop on a dynojet dyno. and for some reason i think it should've made more with all this stuff, is this normal HP gain for this car with this stuff? or is something wrong, but i'm using the cams that came with the heads, no porting, stock intake and stock tune. car ran 14.01 @ 102mph at pittsburgh raceway park on street tires and spinning horribly. anyone out there that can help me out please feel free to message me with any tips, again my question is is this normal hp gain for this car? or should it have been better?, Thanks again, Rob.:thmbsup:
Heard that dyno generates "conservative" figures. With the aformentioned tune and a better 60' you should be able to attain 13.3-13.5's with that MPH. What does the 97' weigh? Your h.p and torque figures are STD or SAE corrected?
Troll
12-10-2006, 02:39 AM
you don't have Mac pulleys. you have Steeda pulleys. :thumbsup:
Mr. Rob
12-10-2006, 03:06 AM
i'm not sure about my 60 ft time i'll have to find it, i think it was 2.25 somewhere around there
thelast50ho
12-10-2006, 10:51 AM
Welcome to the boards. Those numbers sound right. Ive seen a 99 GT with similar mods put down those same numbers. With a good tune you should be able to get a few more out of it. And as far as your E.T.s go you need to get some drag radials on that thing and get you 60fts down and you'll be in the 13s easily. Now how bout some pics
Viper_ed
12-10-2006, 11:45 AM
you don't have Mac pulleys. you have Steeda pulleys. :thumbsup:
Did he buy your old car?
Mr. Rob
12-10-2006, 01:34 PM
heres some pics
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=47040000&imageID=1535634161
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=47040000&imageID=1535627953
Mr. Rob
12-10-2006, 01:40 PM
no i dont know anyone on here, i dont know what pulleys they are they came on the car when i bought it
Steve-0
12-10-2006, 02:35 PM
Hmmm looks like his old car too. Anyway, welcome to the site. Your power numbers seem ok, could be slightly higher but not bad at all. Just practice launching and get some better tires and your good for mid 13s at least.:awsome:
Troll
12-10-2006, 04:08 PM
Did he buy your old car?
I think so... :scratchchin:
Mater
12-10-2006, 06:34 PM
welcome:Beer:
Mr. Rob
12-10-2006, 07:10 PM
i found my timeslip, R/T .113, 60' 2.137, 1/4 - 14.01 @ 102 mph
Viper_ed
12-11-2006, 09:21 AM
60' 2.137
There's your problem! :yes:
87notch
12-11-2006, 12:09 PM
There's your problem! :yes:
:iagree:
bgblockelcamino
12-11-2006, 12:13 PM
welcome
Mr. Rob
12-11-2006, 12:28 PM
yeah my 60' was terrible i spun real bad, also my syncros are bad in my tranny if i try to jam gears real hard it grinds from 1st to 2nd.
Mr. Rob
12-11-2006, 12:49 PM
Ok this just happened to my car in the last month and a half, i couldn't drive it for awhile because the wireing harness fell onto the EGR tube coming from the exhaust manifod, melted and was shorting out ignition coil 3, the mechanic i took it to couldn't find it and he thought it was the coil, we put new coils in and on startup, the engine made a LOuD BANG!!:frown: , in side the engine the sound did not come out the exhaust, then he thought it was the computer and put a new computer in it! that jackass:confuse: . finally i had to take it to davis ford to get it fixed and they found the problem, and ever since then i think its not running like it used to, its probably in my head but i dont know, and just yesterday i went for a drive in it since it was nice out, the engine ran good but it seemed to run rough, it might be in my head but i dont know, anyone know a good place to take it and get the computer, engine compression and pretty much the whole motor checked out? thanks!:goodidea:
Viper_ed
12-11-2006, 01:06 PM
Where you live at?
Mr. Rob
12-11-2006, 01:18 PM
Melcroft near 7 springs
Viper_ed
12-11-2006, 02:07 PM
Melcroft near 7 springs
Cloest to you that I could suggest would be Rodeheavers (http://www.rodeheavershotrod.com/).
Mr. Rob
12-11-2006, 02:40 PM
awesome, thanks alot i'll check them out:awsome:
Troll
12-11-2006, 04:40 PM
Rob, the car had a tune in it when you bought it via the sct xcalibrator that you should have. I know you wrote "stock tune" in your original post, but if you didn't successfully unload it, then it's still in the old computer that the first mechanic replaced. The power would be down about 10hp and your idle will be rough. Just a thought? :goodidea:
EDIT: Tim Rodeheaver did a little bit of work for me in the past. Great guy to deal with and he knows his chit, too.
Mr. Rob
12-12-2006, 02:28 AM
the tuner does not work with the new computer, and there is no computer code on the one, also the car did run better with the stock tune, i know for sure, the tune that was in the tuner made the power real flat and it had no top end, the drag times was made with the stock tune, and troll if you're the guy i bought the car off of, just to just to let you know, I smoked my buddies 2002 mustang gt with it, and some guy in a neon srt-4
Troll
12-12-2006, 08:36 AM
I actually thought the stock tune didn't have any mid-range, but I guess this would feel the same as what you're experiencing??? I'm glad you're having fun with it and I hope you get those other things figured out. :goodidea:
Viper_ed
12-12-2006, 09:22 AM
the tuner does not work with the new computer
That's because it's VIN locked to the old computer. If you restore the stock tune to the old computer, you will be able to use the tuner on another computer. Of course, if I recall, it was an Xcal. Now would be the time to upgrade it to a Xcal2. :goodidea:
Mr. Rob
12-12-2006, 12:57 PM
i'm saving up for the xcal2, does it show your air fuel mixture and stuff? and can it be ajusted, i think since there is so much air coming in if i give it a tad bit more fuel it'll run a little better, i put new spark plugs, autolite XP iridium in when i bought it and i just checked them the other day they look like i just took them out of the box, shouldn't they be a tad bit tan? anyone wanna buy my xcal tuner? $80:) anyone know where i can get an aftermarket PCM?
Viper_ed
12-12-2006, 01:59 PM
i'm saving up for the xcal2, does it show your air fuel mixture and stuff? and can it be ajusted, i think since there is so much air coming in if i give it a tad bit more fuel it'll run a little better, i put new spark plugs, autolite XP iridium in when i bought it and i just checked them the other day they look like i just took them out of the box, shouldn't they be a tad bit tan? anyone wanna buy my xcal tuner? $80:) anyone know where i can get an aftermarket PCM?
I don't know of any handheld tuner that shows A/F Ratio. You will need some sort of wideband to display that. You can adjust timing and fuel curves with the Xcal2.
BTW, with that Xcal is VIN locked, I don't think anyone would want it for free. :no: :no:
Rodeheaver's
12-12-2006, 02:26 PM
whats up?
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