Valvetrain parts

[Martin0660]

Though you guys might like to see some valvetrain porn :D

New cam, valves, springs, retainers, and keepers.
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/38949/2824440840066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2824440840066453426sZvJwR)

Stainless steel 1.89 & 1.59 high flow, swirl polish valves (Manley). These are single groove valves.
http://inlinethumb39.webshots.com/9766/2493849070066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2493849070066453426caYhIL)

Chomoly retainers (Crower) and locks. These are drop retainers to accomidate the springs.
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/35877/2058411360066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2058411360066453426xUYcdz)

New springs
http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/43953/2046522720066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2046522720066453426XosIpW)

New spring next to a "stock" spring
http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/43947/2934475660066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2934475660066453426YeTceY)

Custom roller cam :D We will not discuss the specs on the cam, but it is .100 more lift than anything I have ever run, and has real turbo friendly events. Should sound like a tractor at idle ;)
http://inlinethumb25.webshots.com/41432/2668755000066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2668755000066453426BMEQfe)

Might make a little more power this year ;)

[Rodeheaver's]

looks like fun

[turbo83coupe]

OMG!! Porn that is indeed!! I cant wait to see it in real life!!

[Rio94gt]

Sweet. Cant wait to see it run.

Too bad ill prob only be a spectator this year.

[Inkdcountryboy]

Very nice bob!! those look like the valves i put in single cylinder kohler engines

[MBH]

that's some good prawn right there Bob :beerchug:

can't wait to see you running this year

[yeahloh95]

wow that looks great so you be running around 500 lift then huh

[Sonic03snake]

Lookin good, where are the rest of the valves?:dunno:;)

[cam303]

Lookin good, where are the rest of the valves?:dunno:;)

You beat me to it. And looks like the cam is missing some lobes:sticktonge:

[2001GTTT]

Bob. Conference tomorrow night. Your house.

[Martin0660]

Too bad ill prob only be a spectator this year.

Not getting it together Billy? It sounded like you where making progress?


wow that looks great so you be running around 500 lift then huh

Bad math, but nice try ;) lift of FMS A237 cam plus .100+ ish = a lot more than .500 :D Lets just say the new package gives me an additional .150 clearance off the guide / seal, and I need it all.


Lookin good, where are the rest of the valves?:dunno:;)

I could only afford half a 5.0 / 4.6 SOHC set, or 1/4 of a 4.6 DOHC set :D What the hell do you do with all of those valves and cams anyway ;) Replacement for the valve shortage .............

http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2508925340066453426WZEWTt


Bob. Conference tomorrow night. Your house.

Frank - I'm kicking your ass for bringing Clark here. If you give him my number I'm cutting you off completly :D

Seriously Clark, won't be home much tomorrow & Friday nights, but plan to be in the garage most of the weekend :thmbsup:

[2001GTTT]

cool. we will stop by this weekend.

and btw. thats the 2nd time I was there...I knew all along. :rofl:

[97LaserRed]

:drool5:

[Viper_ed]

You beat me to it. And looks like the cam is missing some lobes:sticktonge:


Lookin good, where are the rest of the valves?:dunno:;)

Bob must of been at a 50% off sale! :sticktonge:

[Martin0660]

Bob must of been at a 50% off sale! :sticktonge:

In my world, that would take me down to something like a Harley:rolleyes: The unfortunate thing about 4 cylinders is that things DO NOT cost half as much. Could of bought the same set-up for a 5.0 for the same money (I actually buy my springs in sets of 16 typically).

[Ares]

Set of Comp Cams?

[lib88stang]

sexy

[Martin0660]

Set

What is a set ;) Only one cam here :D This is a custom grind from Bo-Port based on my new set-up and the cams of his I tried last year.

[yeahloh95]

i'm thinking of skipping the ranger cam and going right with a boport.

[Martin0660]

i'm thinking of skipping the ranger cam and going right with a boport.

Depending on what you do with the rest of the combo, you may / may not be ahead power wise.

I tested 4 cams with the T3. The Ranger roller was as effective as all of them with a stock turbine. (A237, Bo-Port 1.5, Ranger Roller, Stock 88 TC Cam). Bo's 1.5 cam was much stronger under the curve than them all, but did not pick up any MPH at the track. The Ranger roller is a hoot on the street, Bo's 1.5 cam is fun up another 1000 rpm ;) When I ran the A237, I hated the low vacuum and lousy power brakes because of it. Bo told me his 1.9 was about the same for vacuum FWIW. If I owned the RR and was sticking with a T3, that's what I would run (I actually pulled the 1.5 cam and went back to the RR and didnt gain / loose anything).

I would love to test his 1.5 with the new Stage III turbine, but traded that cam back to him. This cam is similar in events to the 1.5 but a ton more lift. We should see in a few weeks how it all works out ;)

Bo is super to deal with, and has always treated me well. You wont go wrong with his stuff no matter what you decide.

[yeahloh95]

ok thanks bob you always have the right info for me , i have the ranger cam and will give it a try and go from there .the svo i still in storage, but i hope to get it home soon

[Martin0660]

i have the ranger cam and will give it a try and go from there .

If we could poke Frank along, we could have another meaningfull data point.
We swapped his early TC cam (small) for my old Engle 55 cam and he picked up a good bit (both ET and MPH). I believe we could see even more gain with a Ranger Roller in his car but need to get him to get the parts rounded up, and let me do it ;) Back in the day, Joe Morgan started all this RR stuff when he went from the Engle 55 to a RR and picked up almost 4 mph.

What you have to consider about the Ranger cam is where it is "happy" matches with the T3 turbo so perfectly, I just dont think you could design a better match. Bo says his 1.1 will out perform it, but I have not tested it myself. The RR is more or less done by 5800 RPM (retarded a little) but so are these heads, the turbine, and so many other things. It just makes power where those parts are still working.

[2001GTTT]

you better talk him out of ANOTHER car he's looking at....I already tried.

[yeahloh95]

bob i would be happy with 5800 mines done at 5000 and thats just not enough rpm for me.

[somethingclever]

Troy...you launch it at 750rpm...so 5000 max still gives 4250 useful....that should be enough, no? :)

[yeahloh95]

oh you are bringing back prp memories and my "low" launch rpm . next time it will be popin off the limiter,lol

[Martin0660]

you launch it at 750rpm

Nah John, these things idle at 950, so that's where the narrow RPM range comes from ;)

[Martin0660]

Got the head off the car, torn down, valves lapped in, Valve lash shimmed / set, and ready to go back on the car. Funny thing here, I took a perfectly good non interference motor and made it into an interference motor (break timing belt, bend valves)

http://inlinethumb26.webshots.com/42713/2351689520066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2351689520066453426Enohex)
http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/40426/2649869250066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2649869250066453426vDOTmN)
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/42104/2420116300066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2420116300066453426PgisLy)
http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/43524/2435796800066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2435796800066453426FSTMqj)
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/42277/2072805630066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2072805630066453426BhOLjx)

Now just to put the whole thing together ;)

[yeahloh95]

i have scaled the photo and fugured out your lift and duration from your pics thanks



j/k lol

[Martin0660]

Troy - Pictures where intentionally blurry to prevent that ;) Besides, you should know, you cant measure valve lift on these off the engine with HLA's :sticktonge: If the cam works, I will let you know some of the specs :D

[map351]

Funny thing here, I took a perfectly good non interference motor and made it into an interference motor (break timing belt, bend valves)

No more short blocks your shut off! :jump:

[Martin0660]

No more short blocks your shut off! :jump:

Quit yer bitchin' and get another victim dusted off for me ;) We are going to test the high side of the new boost gauge :jump:

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/44779/2240342450066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2240342450066453426PPmIIw)

[map351]

Quit yer bitchin' and get another victim dusted off for me ;) We are going to test the high side of the new boost gauge :jump:

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/44779/2240342450066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2240342450066453426PPmIIw)

It don't go past 40? :hyper:

[Martin0660]

It don't go past 40? :hyper:

You know me, it's a low boost combo :thmbsup: Any more, and we will have to quit using bolts and weld the head to one of your core shortblocks.

[map351]

When you pickin up the dif..

[Martin0660]

When you pickin up the dif..

Was planning this week, but things didnt work out. I need stuff welded, but it's not all ready yet. Hoping to get most of that set up this weekend and be over early next week latest. You reading this Frankie?

[lib88stang]

Frank is busy drooling over the 85 Coupe.

[Martin0660]

Frank is busy drooling over the 85 Coupe.

I talked to him last night. Those two are perfect to deal together, neither one can stick to a plan :jump:

[turbo83coupe]

Frank is busy drooling over the 85 Coupe.

You have no idea! Like after all the car business was done last night, there was a ton of stuff going on last night around the house and I was kinda in a daze all night!! lol Then started getting cranky becasue people were talking about things of my minds subject and I started gettign cranky!! haahahha


I talked to him last night. Those two are perfect to deal together, neither one can stick to a plan :jump:


WING IT!! LOL

[2001GTTT]

You have no idea! Like after all the car business was done last night, there was a ton of stuff going on last night around the house and I was kinda in a daze all night!! lol Then started getting cranky becasue people were talking about things of my minds subject and I started gettign cranky!! haahahha




WING IT!! LOL


you were PISSED.

I found it funny.