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Jivepepper
03-19-2009, 07:54 AM
I just finished up with the TFS intake/T-trim upgrade and took it for a spin. I can't believe how much smoother it runs. All the little codes and glitches must have been either related to the intake, tb/plenum or one of the gaskets involved. I was getting occasional misses and the feeling of holding back at cruise before the mods.
No sputtering, no occasional miss nothing. It's running a little rich at idle, and wants to stall ocassionally when coming to stop. Nothing that a tune couldn't fix.
After a little bit of tweaking it's going to be a great running car. But I really need to change my exhaust. The 3" bullets dumped is getting old already. Way to loud and raspy/thrasy sound when combined with an X-pipe.
Overall I'm very happy so far with the mods and I'm looking forward to tuning April 3rd. Yippie it's back to it's smooth running self.:jump:
street591
03-19-2009, 08:04 AM
Good to hear everything smoothed itself out with the new mods!
somethingclever
03-19-2009, 08:07 AM
wow...I didn't realize you were upgrading to a T-trim as well.
Did you send it to vortech fo rhte upgrade, or buy a different unit?
if you sent it back, how much did they charge?
Going to be a real animal this year. (not like it wasn't already)
SonofaBish
03-19-2009, 08:47 AM
Good to hear!
I'm still not super familiar with the 4.6's, but are you coming up on the most you can get out of a 4.6 while still using pump gas? Any thought of meth injection as a safety factor? or like i did, 50/50 meth/water?
Jivepepper
03-19-2009, 08:54 AM
wow...I didn't realize you were upgrading to a T-trim as well.
Did you send it to vortech fo rhte upgrade, or buy a different unit?
if you sent it back, how much did they charge?
Going to be a real animal this year. (not like it wasn't already)
For just the volute and impeller it about 640 a total rebuild is almost 1100 which includes bearing seal etc.
I just had the volute and impeller changed along with the front and rear shaft seals. I got a sweat deal from Frank @ Vortech because I belong to so many forums(25-30) and I'm always talking about my jalopy. I'm always telling people how great of a product Vortech is.. Some forums I have in excess of 10k in posts lol. My Cardonain site has well over 120k views and about 400 comments.
Plus I told him I was considering a billet impeller upgrade from 944 motorsports that is supposed to flow almost as much as a T-trim for 500 and he made me deal.
Rodeheaver's
03-19-2009, 09:17 AM
thats good to hear Jive, i suspected that intake as a big hold back because your car is making so much HP, I think we talked about that. I can't wait to see the HP difference between the stock intake and that Trick flow intake along with the t-trim, it should be a huge difference, I would say not so much in total power output but in where the power is being made..
Jivepepper
03-19-2009, 09:22 AM
Good to hear!
I'm still not super familiar with the 4.6's, but are you coming up on the most you can get out of a 4.6 while still using pump gas? Any thought of meth injection as a safety factor? or like i did, 50/50 meth/water?
I'm close on the sohc. But I just might have to pull timing out and sacrifice hp because I'm broke lol.
I know a guy with a 427 lsx motor afr heads fast intake and cams and a F1A the made over 900 @ 15psi and ran a 9.44 at 153. That was pump gas lol.
Jivepepper
03-19-2009, 09:48 AM
thats good to hear Jive, i suspected that intake as a big hold back because your car is making so much HP, I think we talked about that. I can't wait to see the HP difference between the stock intake and that Trick flow intake along with the t-trim, it should be a huge difference, I would say not so much in total power output but in where the power is being made..
For a S-trim my car was making power pretty guick in the power band and good bit of TQ for a 4.6 with a centrifuge SC. I think it was spooling so quick because the 18% overedrive crank pulley. I only took it to 6400 because that's where it quit making power. So it also reached it's limits quick.
I feel I had an unmetered air leak at the intake gasket or maybe the TB shaft because the plenum/TB were never off with the head change? Maybe even a hair line crack in the intake?
I inspected everything when I took it off and the gasket/intake, and other stuff looked fine but but maybe I missed it. All the bolts still seemed nice and tight when I removed it. But so far it is a nice marked improvement.
I have already sold the TB/plenum and the intake to 2 different people on the net. If they experience any problems that are similar I will have to refund their money. I have been active in most of the larger mustang forums, some for almost 8 years. I've bought and sold a lot of parts and my reputation is in this community is very important to me.
I also went from a chip to a tuner before the intake/T-trim install and it stiil had the little miss here and there, and the feeling of holding back at cruise sometimes.
But the tuner did fix the random dying and shutting off at wot. The intake swap seems to have fixed the miss and sluggish feel at cruise.
I hope all my ducks are in a row now, lol. Knock on wood.:)
SonofaBish
03-19-2009, 10:09 AM
I'm close on the sohc. But I just might have to pull timing out and sacrifice hp because I'm broke lol.
I know a guy with a 427 lsx motor afr heads fast intake and cams and a F1A the made over 900 @ 15psi and ran a 9.44 at 153. That was pump gas lol.
Well, the meth kit is pretty cheap insurance... plus allows you to continue to run where you're at, and actually will take some stress off of the fuel system .... plus a cooler intake charge and the car will likely make a few more ponies! :goodidea:
My car (ex-car) runs on 93 pump, but I added the 50/50 meth/water injection kit just as insurance to make sure I didn't blow anything up accidentally... We went a little over-conservative, still only running 12* of timing, but it was the peace of mind that I wasn't risking anything... it was setup to turn on at 6psi so that it wasn't running at partial throttle, and the car really didn't go through that much... and if you wanna make it easy, run some of the regular blue windshield washer fluid - $2 a bottle...
Eh, just a suggestion - would hate to see something bad happen... i think it only cost me $250 for Boost Cooler kit, and its a piece of cake to install.... It gave me piece of mind, along with the added benefit of less stress on the fuel system... my fuel system maxed out at 4000 rpms and 16psi, with the car making 840rwhp... even though i backed the boost down to 13psi, i wanted to be sure i wasn't going to eat a fuel pump...
Enjoy the car!
Jivepepper
03-19-2009, 10:18 AM
Well, the meth kit is pretty cheap insurance... plus allows you to continue to run where you're at, and actually will take some stress off of the fuel system .... plus a cooler intake charge and the car will likely make a few more ponies! :goodidea:
My car (ex-car) runs on 93 pump, but I added the 50/50 meth/water injection kit just as insurance to make sure I didn't blow anything up accidentally... We went a little over-conservative, still only running 12* of timing, but it was the peace of mind that I wasn't risking anything... it was setup to turn on at 6psi so that it wasn't running at partial throttle, and the car really didn't go through that much... and if you wanna make it easy, run some of the regular blue windshield washer fluid - $2 a bottle...
Eh, just a suggestion - would hate to see something bad happen... i think it only cost me $250 for Boost Cooler kit, and its a piece of cake to install.... It gave me piece of mind, along with the added benefit of less stress on the fuel system... my fuel system maxed out at 4000 rpms and 16psi, with the car making 840rwhp... even though i backed the boost down to 13psi, i wanted to be sure i wasn't going to eat a fuel pump...
Enjoy the car!
Wow you picked up another 150 hp from only 3 psi by 4k rpm. Must be nice.
SonofaBish
03-19-2009, 11:00 AM
Wow you picked up another 150 hp from only 3 psi by 4k rpm. Must be nice.
Well i misspoke - it was actually 3.5psi - my car made max tq at 4500 rpms and max hp at 5500-5700 rpms... it did seem to pick up a ton of hp between boost settings though... plus that was likely letting it lean out to 11.5:1 afr, as opposed to the 11.0:1 that I have it tuned at... every little factor makes a ton of difference on a turbo car... well, with boost in general! :goodidea:
the meth is just something to consider before you go get a tune... either way, its a very fast car! :)
crazylou
03-19-2009, 05:59 PM
. But I really need to change my exhaust. The 3" bullets dumped is getting old already. Way to loud and raspy/thrasy sound when combined with an X-pipe.
IF IT'S 2 LOUD UR 2 OLD... "AND THATS ALL I HAVE 2 SAY BOUT THAT"
:balls1: LOL...
INSANELY CRAZY
03-20-2009, 09:21 AM
glad to hear it's running alot better jive
Jivepepper
03-20-2009, 10:11 AM
glad to hear it's running alot better jive
It's amazing how much better it makes me feel lol.:highfive:
SonofaBish
03-20-2009, 10:22 AM
It's amazing how much better it makes me feel lol.:highfive:
i know that feeling of relief!
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