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scott2001GT
03-22-2009, 11:29 PM
I have a 2001 Mustang GT AUTO. My next mod will me gears I know for sure. But idk which ones. 4:10s or 4:30's. I will not do 3:73's or lower or 4:56's higher. It's thoughs 2 I can't decide between. It's a weekend car and I pretty much only do dig races. some rolls at times. The track is once a year. But I want the best punch. I am concered with top speed. I want atleast 120 and I will be doing a SCT x3 tune with a custom tune. Do you have or knowanyome with a 4R70W 99-04 GT that runs 4:30's?(auto)
Thanks alot
Scott
97LaserRed
03-22-2009, 11:31 PM
auto=4.10s!!
pRojekt02GT
03-22-2009, 11:31 PM
I wish I could help a fellow 4R70W'er..I'm almost certain you have 3.27's, right?..I'm a bit stumped myself on gear choices, I was told 3.73's since I drive it daily but..I'm sure someone will chime in.
scott2001GT
03-22-2009, 11:34 PM
yes that is stock. but I need more lol idk! I want to make the right choice
scott2001GT
03-22-2009, 11:35 PM
so i comt to you's for help
2001GTTT
03-22-2009, 11:40 PM
4.10s definitely. thats what you want.
pRojekt02GT
03-22-2009, 11:42 PM
3.73's for an everyday driver though, right?...
97LaserRed
03-22-2009, 11:44 PM
3.73's for an everyday driver though, right?...
in a v6 auto ...YES! it will rev out to fast with 4.10s. the gt's redline higher tho so you can get away with 4.10s in a auto gt
pRojekt02GT
03-22-2009, 11:46 PM
in a v6 auto ...YES! it will rev out to fast with 4.10s. the gt's redline higher tho so you can get away with 4.10s in a auto gt
What rev's out faster w/ the 4.10's, a V6 or the 4.6?
97LaserRed
03-22-2009, 11:48 PM
What rev's out faster w/ the 4.10's, a V6 or the 4.6?
any car will rev out faster to shift to 2nd and so on. the gt redlines higher so it will take longer for the shift so you stay in the power band a little longer. in a v6 since it redlines at 5k you will go through the power band to fast
scott2001GT
03-22-2009, 11:49 PM
the v6 will
2001GTTT
03-22-2009, 11:49 PM
What rev's out faster w/ the 4.10's, a V6 or the 4.6?
the sixxer
scott2001GT
03-22-2009, 11:49 PM
but 4:30s would be badass.....................
scott2001GT
03-22-2009, 11:50 PM
but idk about top speed
97LaserRed
03-22-2009, 11:54 PM
your cruiseing speed at 65 would be like 4500 rpm?? maybe 5000?? idk with 4.30s
scott2001GT
03-22-2009, 11:56 PM
with O/D off maybe i am not sure. arond 4500 I think. but I am wondering on top speed as well.
2001GTTT
03-23-2009, 09:37 AM
theres a certain GT on this board with 4.10's that goes well in excess of 170mph...oh yea...bolt on car only.
laz2447
03-23-2009, 09:48 AM
auto - 4.10's
5spd - 3.73's
pRojekt02GT
03-23-2009, 09:49 AM
auto - 4.10's
5spd - 3.73's
Way to clear that up. I asked Brian the form of that question almost twice, lmao, and it never really got answered.
Slow01GT
03-23-2009, 10:29 AM
4.10's in the auto for a daily and 4.30's for a track whore. I had 4.10's in my 01 gt auto and daily drove it for 3 years. Also I could still hit around 130 in 3rd with the 4.10's so top speed really isn't an issue.
thebreeze72
03-23-2009, 12:03 PM
i have ford motorsport 4.10's new in the box for an 8.8 i was asking $150.00 make me an offer and pick em up asap and try them out you won't be upset with your choice. call dave 724 - 425 -1911:goodidea:
scott2001GT
03-23-2009, 10:27 PM
4.10's in the auto for a daily and 4.30's for a track whore. I had 4.10's in my 01 gt auto and daily drove it for 3 years. Also I could still hit around 130 in 3rd with the 4.10's so top speed really isn't an issue.
wow great info man! thanks alot!
and I don't have 150 at the time lol sorry! but thanks!
Inkdcountryboy
03-23-2009, 10:38 PM
4:30's FTW!!
scott2001GT
03-23-2009, 10:49 PM
4:30's FTW!!
but not the top speed
pRojekt02GT
03-23-2009, 10:53 PM
Really, Dave? I might have to take you up on that if you got them within the next couple of weeks..Just trying to recover lol.
Inkdcountryboy
03-23-2009, 10:54 PM
scott you can come over ill take you for a ride in my 01 gt with 4:30's
Slow01GT
03-23-2009, 10:54 PM
Honestly 4.30's wouldn't lower the top end too dramatically over the 4.10's but I still think thats a little steep for a daily driver with the auto. 5 spd I would say go for it.
scott2001GT
03-23-2009, 11:00 PM
it's only a weekend car. I need 120mph atleast. and idk if a none F.I 2V with pull 4:30's all that well. I live it STL Lol
scott2001GT
03-23-2009, 11:01 PM
scott you can come over ill take you for a ride in my 01 gt with 4:30'
auto?
Inkdcountryboy
03-23-2009, 11:09 PM
5spd
scott2001GT
03-23-2009, 11:15 PM
oh well man that doesn't help!
pRojekt02GT
03-23-2009, 11:34 PM
..at least he tried..lol
Troll
03-23-2009, 11:38 PM
http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/608.shtml
here's a link to a calculator. It uses a 5-speed, but your AOD is a 1:1 Ratio in 3rd gear (not OD).
you can play around with it, but looks to me like 3.90's will put you at 120mph at 6,125 RPM.
hope this helps. :goodidea:
edit: I see you're not concerned about the 3rd gear at 1:1.
I don't know what the OD factor is on an auto, but you can plug in different numbers for the 5th gear on that calculator.
Even with a 4.56 at a .80 OD, you'd be 120mph at 5,7xx rpm.
I'd say you'll be fine with 4.30s.
pRojekt02GT
03-23-2009, 11:42 PM
Now that you got me playing with it, I feel kinda like a dumbass, but can't figure it out...
:dunno:
Troll
03-23-2009, 11:44 PM
enter your ratio, enter the speed, then hit "calculate"
down below, it gives you the RPM for each gear at that speed.
pRojekt02GT
03-23-2009, 11:52 PM
:rotflol:
LOL..
Slow01GT
03-24-2009, 12:59 AM
The ratios for the 4R70W are:
1st = 2.84
2nd = 1.55
3rd = 1
4th = .70
Hope that helps a bit
steve-O
03-24-2009, 08:09 AM
Im about to go pick up my auto with 4.10's from SLP. Ill let ya know what its like
steve-O
03-24-2009, 07:24 PM
alright, got my car back. has good punch off the line with the 87oct tune, and great punch off the line on the 93oct tune (sct X3) cruises at 2600rpm @70mph. still hits 110mph in 3rd gear, same as with the 3.27 gears which i thought was kinda wierd
White5.0
03-24-2009, 07:29 PM
4.30s
scott2001GT
03-24-2009, 08:17 PM
ya i would liek to know Steve-o! great info guys. Idk if a stockish 2V will pull 4:30's to well. I am getting a tune though.
scott2001GT
03-24-2009, 08:20 PM
so Steve-o you know you can do more than 120 with 4:10s?
steve-O
03-24-2009, 08:26 PM
so Steve-o you know you can do more than 120 with 4:10s?
not in 3rd gear unless ya got taller tires. 4th gear (o/d) will prolly hit 140 with the 4.10's...Ill find out next month
scott2001GT
03-24-2009, 08:27 PM
I need to know with O/D off so when I race lol great info man 1st hand is nice to know!
Slow01GT
03-24-2009, 08:31 PM
With my limiter bumped up to 6500 I know I could hit at least 120 in 3rd with my 4.10's
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