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RUTHLESS
03-27-2009, 02:04 PM
Pittsburgh approves first round of surveillance cameras

Ending a 21-month selection process, the city of Pittsburgh today announced it has picked Maryland-based Avrio Group to deploy a network of public safety surveillance cameras, starting along riverfronts and extending into high-crime areas.
The initial funding includes $3.45 million in camera funding is federal money that includes $2.59 million from the Department of Homeland Security, intended to improve port safety, and $862,000 in local money. An additional $625,000 in state funds will allow the system to be extended into crime-plagued neighborhoods.
At an afternoon news conference on the North Side, police Chief Nate Harper said the cameras will be a deterrent to crime.
"With the technology these cameras will have, it will greatly assist us with stopping homicides on the street, as well as stopping other crimes," he said.
The system will include 32 cameras installed on bridges, 48 that can recognize license plate numbers, and several dozen that will be deployed through the city's six police zones. It also includes a computer system to receive data from those cameras and about 120 others owned by private companies throughout the Downtown area.
The first six to 12 cameras will in installed in the Mexican War Streets area in the next few months, Mayor Lyuke Ravenstahl said. The first one probably will be at the corner of Brighton Road and Jacksonia Street.
Avrio leads one of nine groups of vendors that competed for the city's business. Avrio has won a string of high-profile camera installation jobs lately, including the task of putting up surveillance systems in St. Paul, Minn., for the Republican National Convention, and Denver for the Democratic National Convention. It also got the jobs of posting camera networks in Buffalo, N.Y., and Glendale, Colo.
City Council passed a camera privacy policy last year. It gives the chief of police the role of choosing where to put cameras, giving priority to neighborhoods with "a distinct pattern of crime" where there is a "potential to deter" that activity, and "significant support" of the community.
Footage can only be preserved for 10 days unless it is needed to investigate a crime or document city liability. Cameras are not allowed to target or follow a person unless there is probable cause that they have committed or are committing a crime.
More details in tomorrow's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
First published on March 27, 2009 at 1:29 pm

SAC81
03-27-2009, 02:16 PM
Damn that is scary.

Twin01cobra
03-27-2009, 02:33 PM
Big brother is watching you. No really it's for our own safety:rotflol:, you will receive traffic violations in the mail without ever getting pulled over.

phillysrt4
03-27-2009, 02:44 PM
Damn that is scary.

x2!!

I see the point of "flashers" that tag people who run red lights, but that's logging you *after* a crime occurred. This is just nuts.

Philly is worse than pitt in that it seems every single square inch of the city has a camera on it. The difference is there is no central repository... yet....

except for 95, the schuylkill, and the turnpike. those have cameras in thfe philly metro area.

SAC81
03-27-2009, 02:45 PM
Where is the ACLU on this? I'm not a City of Pittsburgh resident, so I don't really know that I have any say...but surely SOMEONE in the city has to be alarmed enough about this to start a resistance process?

Twin01cobra
03-27-2009, 03:55 PM
Where is the ACLU on this? I'm not a City of Pittsburgh resident, so I don't really know that I have any say...but surely SOMEONE in the city has to be alarmed enough about this to start a resistance process?


Pretty soon you won't be able to fart without big brother knowing:paranoid:

97LaserRed
03-27-2009, 04:06 PM
Ya I would be jacked if got a ticket in the mail from these cameras. Good idea on keeping the city safe tho

95riosnake
03-27-2009, 04:28 PM
I just hope they don't put any of the license plate recognition ones on rt 28 between millvale and RIDC, or in any of the tunnels... I will be getting a lot more tickets

Ares
03-27-2009, 05:24 PM
So these camera's will stop homicides? Umm no they won't. They may catch a glimpse of someone getting killed but hell if someone is gonna off somebody nothing is going to stop them.

I think there is better use of the money somewhere else.

ddmi-twin90gt
03-28-2009, 01:02 AM
I just hope they don't put any of the license plate recognition ones on rt 28 between millvale and RIDC, or in any of the tunnels... I will be getting a lot more tickets
OH yeah, I would hate that! I'll be ordering a lens blurring cover for the plate now.

Smallville
03-28-2009, 01:47 AM
OH yeah, I would hate that! I'll be ordering a lens blurring cover for the plate now.

http://www.photoblocker.com/ :goodidea:

03 OW SVT
03-28-2009, 06:26 AM
http://www.photoblocker.com/ :goodidea:

I gotta get me some of that sh*t.:thmbsup:

scorpio333
03-28-2009, 12:13 PM
As far using these cameras for traffic violations it'll only work so long. I've been told anytime you get one of these tickets just request a court date. The courts can't handle all the cases and they usually drop the charge. Perhaps an urban legend, but worth a shot. In any case I doubt they'll be used for traffic tickets.

I used to park at the HOV in Ross. My car was broken into three times in the course of a year. It was very common that cars would be found on blocks, broken windows, stripped parts, etc. The Port Authority tried to put cameras up long ago but people went ape shit and thought their privacy would be at risk. Because people were afraid of being caught pickin their noses or scratching their asses the crack heads got a nice parts lot. I could give a hoot if someone saw me scratching my junk, that's easier to deal with over finding your car stripped. Pick your poison I guess.

For the most part I very highly doubt these cameras would be viewed constantly all day long, if an incident arose then they could go back and review them. Hopefully this is the case with the new cameras around town. Just like anything else gov't related, we the people need to keep the pressure on them to do the right thing with them. 2

RUTHLESS
03-28-2009, 01:22 PM
I'll be ordering a lens blurring cover for the plate now.

I read reviews that this stuff doesnt work. I saw a pic that was blured but the pic right under it was in negitive colors and it was plan as day. If I remember right MythBusters has something on about how to beat tickets and nothing worked for them.

I just need a nice typo on my plate/paper work like I had on my Stealth. :goodidea: I was pulled over one time because the plate didnt match my car. The cop just told me to go get it fixed. (B was an 8 or something) This was after having the car for over 2 years and I was selling it the next month.

phillysrt4
03-28-2009, 01:32 PM
I read reviews that this stuff doesnt work.

correct



If I remember right MythBusters has something on about how to beat tickets and nothing worked for them.


correct

03 OW SVT
03-28-2009, 02:02 PM
correct



correct

Damn!.... figures

map351
03-28-2009, 05:19 PM
Pretty soon you won't be able to fart without big brother knowing:paranoid:

Nothing new Lawrenceville has had City surveillance cameras for years now ( MeCleary school, has them pointed everywhere)..

Nice Avatar!

Mike

AdamantiumSilvr
03-29-2009, 10:22 PM
Its a great deal to an extent. Really depends on how far they take it. Get those damn drug addicts, stealers, ruckus causers, and killers off the streets, for sure!!