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laz2447
04-10-2009, 10:00 AM
I saw John post up about guns and it made me motivated to finally ask some questions.
I live in WV, but want to purchase some handguns legally and have them in my home for protection.
Point me in the right direction! I have asked other people who I thought might know but I never get a clear answer on what I am supposed to do...:rotflol:
Assume I know nothing about the process, because I probably know nothing that I should.
pRojekt02GT
04-10-2009, 10:43 AM
If your looking to get a permit to carry, I would go to your local court house or city court house for more information, they'll definantly be able to point you in the right direction. Maybe even give them a call..
As for just wanting some guns in the house, I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem just to buy one and that'd be that..Not too familair with WV laws, so I could be wrong..But the court house should help ya out!
turbo'dnotch
04-10-2009, 10:43 AM
1. Purchasing weapons varies from state to state, but you will probably have to go thru a background check,and some sort of a waiting period. Assuming you have never owned a gun, a safety or shooting course for handguns would be recomended, especially if your considering concealed carry. I have had a ccw for 4 years now and probably carry about 2% of the time.
2. Gun choices are up to you and vary on uses. You dont need a 8.75 in. barrel .44 mag to carry or for home protection, but something med. caliber i.e. .38,9mm,or .45 and light bodied so its easily handled and concealed.
3. get familiar with what you buy. Practice,practice, and more practice. Hope all this helps.
HidalgoGT
04-10-2009, 10:47 AM
I don't think i have heard of any laws saying you couldn't have them in your house. You can have any gun within reason in your house. It only really governs when you start carrying them. Typical stuff not supposed to be loaded. Handguns should be carried seperate from ammunition only real transportation of firearms laws I can think of. Though, in the house do what ya want. :goodidea:
laz2447
04-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Thanks guys...
Not looking to carry, this is strictly for home protection. So looks like I wouldn't have to do anything except buy the handgun I want and register it?
To register it I just go to my local couthouse?
blackfive-o
04-10-2009, 11:07 AM
Go to Gander Mountain/Cabellas, buy gun, they will do the registration of the gun. This is how it is in PA. You walk out with a registered weapon in 1 hour.
Inkdcountryboy
04-10-2009, 11:33 AM
I don't think i have heard of any laws saying you couldn't have them in your house. You can have any gun within reason in your house. It only really governs when you start carrying them. Typical stuff not supposed to be loaded. Handguns should be carried seperate from ammunition only real transportation of firearms laws I can think of. Though, in the house do what ya want. :goodidea:
if you dont have a carrying permit....but who cares anyhow i carry a 12ga with me:goodidea:
laz2447
04-10-2009, 11:50 AM
Go to Gander Mountain/Cabellas, buy gun, they will do the registration of the gun. This is how it is in PA. You walk out with a registered weapon in 1 hour.
Sounds easy enough! I'm sure its the same in WV.
Thanks everyone, I appreciate everyones input.
John4cam
04-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Sounds easy enough! I'm sure its the same in WV.
I would say it's less BS in WV than PA just like anything else...:rolleyes:
wickedsnake03
04-10-2009, 04:37 PM
Like everyone else said its really easy to buy a gun now. they do the check via phone and you get your gun the same day. even getting a permit to carry is easy for the most part. If you are just interested in a gun for home defense I would really recommend a shotgun. Dont have to be a skilled shot to hit your target, and also you dont have bullets going the whole way through the home and maybe strking a neighbors house or even worse someone else.
pRojekt02GT
04-10-2009, 04:39 PM
Like everyone else said its really easy to buy a gun now. they do the check via phone and you get your gun the same day. even getting a permit to carry is easy for the most part. If you are just interested in a gun for home defense I would really recommend a shotgun. Dont have to be a skilled shot to hit your target, and also you dont have bullets going the whole way through the home and maybe strking a neighbors house or even worse someone else.
x2..love my shotty :sticktonge:
Twin01cobra
04-10-2009, 07:18 PM
If you were to only have one gun and it is strictly for home defense, then the shotgun is the best choice. There are plenty of options and for the most part a good home defense shotgun can be had for under 400.00.
I personally have a remington 870 with a 18.5" barrel, +3 mag tube extension for 8 rnds of 00 buckshot.
I would also recommend getting one with a full stock not one with a pistol grip, a little easier to handle and shoot.
Twin01cobra
04-10-2009, 07:19 PM
if you dont have a carrying permit....but who cares anyhow i carry a 12ga with me:goodidea:
I would'nt carry that loaded:goodidea:
turbo'dnotch
04-10-2009, 07:45 PM
Like everyone else said its really easy to buy a gun now. they do the check via phone and you get your gun the same day. even getting a permit to carry is easy for the most part. If you are just interested in a gun for home defense I would really recommend a shotgun. Dont have to be a skilled shot to hit your target, and also you dont have bullets going the whole way through the home and maybe strking a neighbors house or even worse someone else.Thats pretty much why my 9mm has snake shot in it.:goodidea:
Twin01cobra
04-10-2009, 07:52 PM
Thats pretty much why my 9mm has snake shot in it.:goodidea:
Snake shot is for snakes, not personal defense.
turbo'dnotch
04-10-2009, 07:54 PM
Snake shot is for snakes, not personal defense.True, but if you have what is considered "non lethal ammunition" they cant put you on trial for attempted homicide. They CAN if you have ammo that is made for killing.
Twin01cobra
04-10-2009, 08:10 PM
True, but if you have what is considered "non lethal ammunition" they cant put you on trial for attempted homicide. They CAN if you have ammo that is made for killing.
If your worried about going to trial for defending yourself then get rid of the gun:rolleyes:.
Where does one buy this non-lethal ammo that prevents you from going to trial, cause I have to get me some:rotflol:
turbo'dnotch
04-10-2009, 08:59 PM
If your worried about going to trial for defending yourself then get rid of the gun:rolleyes:.
Where does one buy this non-lethal ammo that prevents you from going to trial, cause I have to get me some:rotflol:You can get it from all the major gun retailers. Gander, cabellas..etc. I will post some pics of mine if you have never seen it before.
turbo'dnotch
04-10-2009, 09:17 PM
Here are some pics. On the left is a standard copper jacket 9mm and the right is the "shot" ammo. Hope this helps you understand the difference. And if you think you cant be prosecuted for protecting your own home, think again.
HidalgoGT
04-10-2009, 09:20 PM
True, but if you have what is considered "non lethal ammunition" they cant put you on trial for attempted homicide. They CAN if you have ammo that is made for killing.
Attempted? Hardly you make sure that SOB is dead as a dead can get for trying to get in your house and harming you or your family and he can't sue you for being a freaking jackoff and getting his ass handed to him for doing so. Just kill the SOB and no worries. Just be sure they have a weapon. :goodidea:
Your right they may not try you for homicied but, they may get you for whatever you do to him like take out an eye or cripple him by damaging some nerve. Hydroshocks,00 buck are the best way to cure this bullshit system.
turbo'dnotch
04-10-2009, 09:22 PM
Attempted? Hardly you make sure that SOB is dead as a dead can get for trying to get in your house and harming you or your family and he can't sue you for being a freaking jackoff and getting his ass handed to him for doing so. Just kill the SOB and no worries. Just be sure they have a weapon. :goodidea::biglaugh::biglaugh::biglaugh: DAMN STRAIGHT!!!!
2001GTTT
04-10-2009, 09:23 PM
Attempted? Hardly you make sure that SOB is dead as a dead can get for trying to get in your house and harming you or your family and he can't sue you for being a freaking jackoff and getting his ass handed to him for doing so. Just kill the SOB and no worries. Just be sure they have a weapon. :goodidea:
Your right they may not try you for homicied but, they may get you for whatever you do to him like take out an eye or cripple him by damaging some nerve. Hydroshocks,00 buck are the best way to cure this bullshit system.
^^ agreed. Ever hear of "a dead man cant testify" ?? lol.
Twin01cobra
04-11-2009, 02:08 PM
Here are some pics. On the left is a standard copper jacket 9mm and the right is the "shot" ammo. Hope this helps you understand the difference. And if you think you cant be prosecuted for protecting your own home, think again.
So if you use snakeshot on a intruder that is armed or unarmed it's perfectly legit, no worries of being taken to court right? If you could please provide a link showing the differance between lethal and less lethal ammo if used for self-defense, this I would like to see.
turbo'dnotch
04-11-2009, 03:04 PM
So if you use snakeshot on a intruder that is armed or unarmed it's perfectly legit, no worries of being taken to court right? If you could please provide a link showing the differance between lethal and less lethal ammo if used for self-defense, this I would like to see.There is not a clear cut yes and no. But a lawyer will and has argued that if your using ammo with the "intent" to kill, you can be held on attempted murder chargers. If the ammo is not "designed" to kill, they cant. Its the same difference in using jacketed compared to Hollow points. Its not written as much as implied and used against.
wickedsnake03
04-11-2009, 04:38 PM
Without causing more drama in this thread i see it this way. someone forceable breaks into my house they are either getting a shotgun blast, or a few rounds from my glock 17 with crimson trace laser. loaded with federal hydroshock. If I go to jail for protecting my family thats fine in my book, atleat i know that i protected my family. And at the end of the day thats all that really matters to me I guess.
turbo'dnotch
04-11-2009, 04:41 PM
Without causing more drama in this thread i see it this way. someone forceable breaks into my house they are either getting a shotgun blast, or a few rounds from my glock 17 with crimson trace laser. loaded with federal hydroshock. If I go to jail for protecting my family thats fine in my book, atleat i know that i protected my family. And at the end of the day thats all that really matters to me I guess.This is fact, and your right. My point was not that you should not protect your family. My point was you can do it with a gun and not give the left wing libs a shot at you. Hope this clears up my point.
Twin01cobra
04-11-2009, 11:16 PM
There is not a clear cut yes and no. But a lawyer will and has argued that if your using ammo with the "intent" to kill, you can be held on attempted murder chargers. If the ammo is not "designed" to kill, they cant. Its the same difference in using jacketed compared to Hollow points. Its not written as much as implied and used against.
I would think by you firing at gun at someone is intent to kill enough, does'nt matter what kind of ammo is in the gun. I'll take my chances with what I have, at least I know they will not be around to testify if I do my job.
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