Cobra Transformation...

[Wolfpack Speed]

As many of you know, I tried to sell my cobra not long ago. This is my 3rd Terminator and I have always wanted a Lightning. I had a deal in place to trade my car for a sweet L + cash. The owner backed out and when I couldn't sell my car to get the cash for the L, I just decided to keep her! I have received some public and private sponsorship for the build and started working on the car a few weeks ago! Originally I wanted to keep it an Eaton, 6-speed, IRS street/stip car for a year or so. I just cant bring my self to go drag racing with that silly boat anchor in the rear so I am in the process of building a nasty 8.8! I will post up as much as I can on the build as I go, going to Team Z Motorsports for an 8.50 chassis in the next few weeks!

Quick Time supplied me with one of their sweet bellhousings! Big props to Ross and the crew @ Quick Time for helping out with the car and making a top notch product! Last week I installed the 26 spline input shaft along with the Quick Time bellhousing, RAM clutch and flywheel. Here are a some pics...

[HidalgoGT]

Lookin Good Mike, Can't wait to see ya run it.

[bgblockelcamino]

looking good mike. will have to stop and check it out one day

[Wolfpack Speed]

Thanks guys!

[yeahloh95]

wow that looks awsome i cant wait to see the rest of the build pics

[Mater]

wow that looks awsome steel shi tty

[scott5]

looks good mike...

Whats the motor plans?

[somethingclever]

IS that bell SFI approved?

[Wolfpack Speed]

wow that looks awsome steel shi tty

:rotflol:


Whats the motor plans?

Stock long block, going to push it till it explodes:hyper:


IS that bell SFI approved?

Yes, sticker is in the 5th picture down from the top.

Thanks everyone!

[Viper_ed]

wow that looks awsome steel shi tty

How long till you lose interest in this one and is gets stripped down to a shell? :sticktonge:

[somethingclever]

Yep...missed that pic the first time...doh


Some of quicktime's aren't SFI approved so that's why I asked.


Good luck with the build!

[Cam99]

Looks like a cool project Mike.

[Wolfpack Speed]

How long till you lose interest in this one and is gets stripped down to a shell? :sticktonge:

This one is a keeper and is why I am using a top notch chassis builder to lay the foundation. Wouldn't be much to upgrade if I want to go faster, you might just see me competing in Drag Radial some day...

Thanks guys!

[KBCobra]

:rotflol:

Stock long block, going to push it till it explodes:hyper:


I'm getting flashbacks of Maple Grove :thumbsup:

Good luck with everything Mike, You definitly know when you're doing, I can't wait to see it run!! I remember the townhouse days of the last yellow one, it all started with selling the stock wheels haha :highfive:

[Wolfpack Speed]

I'm getting flashbacks of Maple Grove :thumbsup:

Good luck with everything Mike, You definitly know when you're doing, I can't wait to see it run!! I remember the townhouse days of the last yellow one, it all started with selling the stock wheels haha :highfive:

We all can thank Twin01cobra for that one! :slaphappy:

[biminiLX]

Nice Mike, I like the plan and you can't go wrong with Dave and the crew at Team Z.
Were you up there this weekend? My brother Josh thought he met someone from Wolfpack. Later man, J

[1Badbird]

Looks like it's going to be a sweet build.

[Wolfpack Speed]

Nice Mike, I like the plan and you can't go wrong with Dave and the crew at Team Z.
Were you up there this weekend? My brother Josh thought he met someone from Wolfpack. Later man, JI was there and introduced my self to him! They were ripping that Shelby apart, looked like me at the shop over the last couple weeks...I love it:hyper:

[Twin01cobra]

We all can thank Twin01cobra for that one! :slaphappy:

:goodidea:

[blizzard]

gotta watch this.


IS that bell SFI approved?

not only is it approved, you can crawl inside of it in the event of a nuclear holocaust. damn, that a sexy hunk of metal. do they do custom stuff too?

been meaning to stop by sometime to check out the shop, now i have a gooder excuse to introduce myself :highfive:

[shawnsvtcobra]

Mike That Quick Time Bell Looks Like A Nice Piece Man, Thanks For The Pictures Keep Us Updated.

[Wolfpack Speed]

gotta watch this.



not only is it approved, you can crawl inside of it in the event of a nuclear holocaust. damn, that a sexy hunk of metal. do they do custom stuff too?

been meaning to stop by sometime to check out the shop, now i have a gooder excuse to introduce myself :highfive:

They make many configurations, stop by!

http://www.quicktimeinc.com/products.html





Thanks Shawn!

[Mater]

wILL U STILL BE DRIVING LIKE GRANDMA?

[Wolfpack Speed]

wILL U STILL BE DRIVING LIKE GRANDMA?Ever sin:rotflol:ce you taught me how to dri:rotflol:ve like a MAN, I kn:rotflol:ow no other way:highfive:

[Wolfpack Speed]

When the car comes back from Team Z it will have through the floor subs, chromolly 10 point with swing outs and they are building me a rear firewall. I have no interest in pulling the interior back apart after the chassis work, still have some more work to do but here are some pics of what has been done so far...

Big thanks to Alan @ http://www.speedofsoundllc.com/, they sponsored the radio and hvac delete panels:highfive:

[SoLow]

looking good Mike !

[yeahloh95]

wow that looks like my notch are you taking out the sound deading too ?

[bgblockelcamino]

looks like it MIGHT finally keep up with ls1 car all the weight reduction:rotflol:

looking good mike

[Mater]

wow that looks like my notch are you taking out the sound deading too ?

Yup get that shit out of there,gives us more room for Gooooooo's!:thmbsup:

[Wolfpack Speed]

are you taking out the sound deading too?

Yes


Yup get that shit out of there,gives us more room for Gooooooo's!:thmbsup:

x2:hyper:

Thanks guys!

[biminiLX]

Nice dude! I should have just stopped by today but now I have your shop number.
When you going up to Dave's?
-J

[AdamantiumSilvr]

Good luck on the build/project ya got goin on. Lookin tight so far!

[BoneCrusher]

Damn dude looking like a Koval-mobile for sure. Can't wait to see you hit the track again. Wish I had my cobra back so I could scarf up all those damn parts you rip outta there.

[no1fordgirl]

Good luck, Mike! =)

[Wolfpack Speed]

Thanks!

[gmkillr]

Lookin good Mike!

I need to do the same thing to my rear quarter interior panels and to the dash to lighten things up some.....:hyper:

Keep us posted on the updates!:thmbsup:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Big thanks to Lou for hooking me up with a fox body 8.8 housing he had laying around! I'm not set up to weld the tubes and do the 9" ends the right way, so I sent the housing down to Bud @ Continental Competition...724-439-4189. Bud is a good dude with a nice setup and does top notch work! After I got the housing back from Bud I had it blasted and finished cleaning her up a bit tonight. Rear suspension is in the house, just waiting on the guts for the 8.8 build...

[wick]

Looks real nice. The welding looks top notch:goodidea: I'll stop by tomorrow and see ya on my way home. I have some green stuff for you anyways.

[Mater]

U always do great work on my rear?why send urs out?














Bud> all on rears

[laz2447]

Nice work Mike!

[weareweird69]

Looking good Mike! Looks like your going all out on this one. I was wondering how long it would take you lol

[shawnsvtcobra]

Well Done Mike.

[Wolfpack Speed]

Thanks guys! I have to run the dyno a little bit this weekend but the rest of the time I should be working on the car...will post more pics then!

[scott5]

looking good mike... your making the progress quick..

[Wolfpack Speed]

looking good mike... your making the progress quick..Trying to go down the track this year. I don't think it will be ready for bowling green but there is a terminator shootout 10-17 @ MIR that I could probably have it ready for. The NMRA is also having a no points race @ HRP that I would love to go to....

[scott5]

Trying to go down the track this year. I don't think it will be ready for bowling green but there is a terminator shootout 10-17 @ MIR that I could probably have it ready for. The NMRA is also having a no points race @ HRP that I would love to go to....

hopefully ya can bud:goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Need some honest opinions on the wheels I am considering. I want something that will stand out, nothing like mismatched wheels I guess!

Black ones for the front, polished in the rear....what does everyone think???

Thanks!

[scott5]

i wouldnt say mis match them, i would go all black on fronts and rears but that is def my fav style wheel

[Rodeheaver's]

Hey Mike, i think the black wheels would be great looking on a yellow car.. black & gold baby!!!

[Wolfpack Speed]

i wouldnt say mis match them, i would go all black on fronts and rears but that is def my fav style wheel
cant get the rears in black. the matching front runner for the rear looks stupid imo, thats why I am looking at the black 5 spoke which is also available in polished...

[scott5]

ok then yea i would mis match.. Cause that black one is sweet.. You could always paint the rear one down the road if you didnt like it

[yeahloh95]

how about taking the rear apart and powdercoating the center?

[Wolfpack Speed]

how about taking the rear apart and powdercoating the center?Lou said the same thing, that certainly is an option. Just kind of depends on what the finish on the front wheel is like in person and how the powder coated rear center piece would turn out.


Hey Mike, i think the black wheels would be great looking on a yellow car.. black & gold baby!!! I think with the right wheels or combo you are right. It's actually the look and pictured finish of the black weld I posted a photo of that got me going. That wheel is so damn sweet looking, I have to have it on the car!

[wick]

The black wheel is just plain sick.

[racefan]

Screw the wheel color, it ain't going to make it any faster!!!!:thmbsup:

[MBH]

wow you're really going to town in a hurry on this thing :thmbsup:


how about taking the rear apart and powdercoating the center?
That's exactly what I was thinking Troy, but I'm kinda partial :goodidea:

I'm not sure I'd go with just black fronts, it might look like you're running spare tires up front if they're the only black accents on the car. If you're going to do black, get some vinyl letters for the bumper and some vinyl for the tail lights to help pull everything together

Did some quick work for ya Mike:

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii21/MBH_427/927788.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii21/MBH_427/927788blackaccents.jpg

http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii21/MBH_427/927788allblack.jpg

[Wolfpack Speed]

I don't know if these size out to what I need or not but...

[blizzard]

ftw!

[Wolfpack Speed]

Looks like they don't size out to what I need. Here is the front runner for the rears in the first set of pictures...starting to grow on me...

[blizzard]

yes! tia :D

[Wolfpack Speed]

Got a lot done today, big thanks to Lou for all the help!

[1Badbird]

Wow you really got that stripped out!! And fast!!!

[Wolfpack Speed]

Wow you really got that stripped out!! And fast!!!
I'm amazed at how much 2 people can get done on a car in 1 day:thmbsup:

EDIT...Turning off the phones certainly helps!!!

[1Badbird]

That's true, 4 hands instead of 2 helps, especially if you can stay out of each others way.

[wick]

That poor poor car!! HAHAHAHAHHAH Dayun Mike, wanna come up here this winter and do mine? Got some big plans for it now. Dont know if Lund said anything to you yet. You going to be at the shop today?

[03 OW SVT]

Trying to go down the track this year. I don't think it will be ready for bowling green but there is a terminator shootout 10-17 @ MIR that I could probably have it ready for. The NMRA is also having a no points race @ HRP that I would love to go to....

Hope you do get it done for that Mike, A few of us are planning on going to MIR this year. Me, PJ, Larry, Mark (BOOST IT on here) and hopefully a couple other of us Terminator guys. We could all Convoy down together and have a good showing of SCS members.

[Wolfpack Speed]

You going to be at the shop today?

Here now...


Hope you do get it done for that Mike, A few of us are planning on going to MIR this year. Me, PJ, Larry, Mark (BOOST IT on here) and hopefully a couple other of us Terminator guys. We could all Convoy down together and have a good showing of SCS members.

It's in the hands of the man Dave @ Team Z. I am working my tail off to have the chance but my guess is the car wont be ready. Since I am doing more then I originally planned and still slammed at the shop, I don't mind waiting till next year. Lou and I were talking about putting my tranny and exhaust on his car so he could make the event, he would be very competitive in the eaton only class:goodidea:

[wick]

If your there later today, I'll swing by. I dont want to get in the way though or take you from getting stuff done.:thumbsup:

[Wolfpack Speed]

If your there later today, I'll swing by. I dont want to get in the way though or take you from getting stuff done.:thumbsup:I will be in and out all day, stop in if you like...no biggie

[wick]

I will be in and out all day, stop in if you like...no biggie


Cool...

[Mater]

get that TURD ready!

[racefan]

What the Hell!!!! Anybody get hurt in that wreck?:)

[Wolfpack Speed]

What the Hell!!!! Anybody get hurt in that wreck?:)Nope, sore back though:slaphappy:

[racefan]

Nope, sore back though:slaphappy:

You better hurry, 2 wks before we go get mine and drop of yours. Any one can restore a car, But it takes a "Real Man" to cut one UP!!!!:thmbsup:

[Wolfpack Speed]

You better hurry, 2 wks before we go get mine and drop of yours. Any one can restore a car, But it takes a "Real Man" to cut one UP!!!!:thmbsup:
Get your ass down here and help us out:sticktonge:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Did some welding on the torque boxes...

[Wolfpack Speed]

Lost another 15lbs or so...

[RUTHLESS]

WOW thats a BIG change since I saw that car last.

Ok guys dont kill me but I have to ask. If this is a track car why not just bite the bullet and got with an auto? I know the sticks are more fun but the autos run better numbers.

PS Pull that mirror out, its just weight. j/k

[HidalgoGT]

WOW thats a BIG change since I saw that car last.

Ok guys dont kill me but I have to ask. If this is a track car why not just bite the bullet and got with an auto? I know the sticks are more fun but the autos run better numbers.

PS Pull that mirror out, its just weight. j/k
I was gonna suggest aluminum screws threwout to save a lil more lol.
Looking good mike!!

[Wolfpack Speed]

WOW thats a BIG change since I saw that car last.

Ok guys dont kill me but I have to ask. If this is a track car why not just bite the bullet and got with an auto? I know the sticks are more fun but the autos run better numbers.

PS Pull that mirror out, its just weight. j/kI am not spending any money on a motor, power adder or an auto conversion until the rest of the car is the way I want it...

Thanks guys!

[bgblockelcamino]

stopped down today but you werent there. wanted to check your sh*t box out. looking good though.

[bgblockelcamino]

although seems like on right path. baby steps and work your way to how you want hte car ot be.

[Wolfpack Speed]

I spent 14 hours there today, you must have stopped when I went to Primantis:rotflol:

[bgblockelcamino]

no wonder you are doing so much weight reduction. that way can eat more primantis lol. i would rather make more horsepower or cut crap out of car before losing weight lol

[Mater]

no wonder you are doing so much weight reduction. that way can eat more primantis lol. i would rather make more horsepower or cut crap out of car before losing weight lol

x2:sticktonge:

[Viper_ed]

What's the trick to laying down a bead of weld like that without getting discoloration in the metal you are welding from the penetration?

[HidalgoGT]

What's the trick to laying down a bead of weld like that without getting discoloration in the metal you are welding from the penetration?
Maybe he has an issue with deep penetration? Lol. They are some nice welds though.

[Wolfpack Speed]

What's the trick to laying down a bead of weld like that without getting discoloration in the metal you are welding from the penetration?
The most important thing is prep, clean metal makes a world of difference:goodidea:

[Viper_ed]

The most important thing is prep, clean metal makes a world of difference:goodidea:

I've tried everything, but everytime I get good penetration (deep as the Dodge guy would say) the metal always, always discolors. When is the next class for Welding by Kovall?

[scott5]

mike you going to keep the mirrors or you going to sell them?

[wick]

What's the trick to laying down a bead of weld like that without getting discoloration in the metal you are welding from the penetration?


Wire wheel when he is done...

[Wolfpack Speed]

I've tried everything, but everytime I get good penetration (deep as the Dodge guy would say) the metal always, always discolors. When is the next class for Welding by Kovall?You just need more practice then...

[Wolfpack Speed]

mike you going to keep the mirrors or you going to sell them?
Since this is going to be a street car, I will have to keep the mirrors:rotflol:

[Mater]

Since this is going to be a street car, I will have to keep the mirrors:rotflol:

:sticktonge:u wont see me in them!!:rotflol:

[somethingclever]

:sticktonge:u wont see me in them!!:rotflol:

LOL.....:rofl:

[Wolfpack Speed]

:sticktonge:u wont see me in them!!:rotflol:That right, cause you will be at Goooooooooos eating:tearsofjoy:

[burntire]

Looking good Mike. What are the goals for the car?

[Wolfpack Speed]

Looking good Mike. What are the goals for the car?
The only goal for now is to do a lot of racing next year, I miss going to the track! Even though I really don't have the time, it is something that I want to do. I don't want to do things 2 and 3 times which is why I am laying the foundation for an 8.50 car now, I will grow into it later:thmbsup:

[Rodeheaver's]

I've tried everything, but everytime I get good penetration (deep as the Dodge guy would say) the metal always, always discolors. When is the next class for Welding by Kovall?
Ed, its because he didnt do a continuous bead, he kept hitting the trigger, like a stop/start/stop/start/stop/start you cant make a mig gun weld look like that unless you start/stop it over and over, plus you can look closely at the beads and see tiny little dimples... that explains why there is no deep penatration where discoloration would be evident... hope that helps..:goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Ed, its because he didnt do a continuous bead, he kept hitting the trigger, like a stop/start/stop/start/stop/start you cant make a mig gun weld look like that unless you start/stop it over and over, plus you can look closely at the beads and see tiny little dimples... that explains why there is no deep penatration where discoloration would be evident... hope that helps..:goodidea:

Tim,

You are correct, I did start and stop. That is a very hard area to prep and lay a good and continuous weld. You know where I got the idea from? Dave Zimmerman @ Team Z Motorports. I was there a couple weekends ago and noticed thats how they weld up the boxes at their shop. Dave was kind enough to explain to me why and I wanted to try this on my car first, before attempting to do so on a customers car.

In response to...


you can look closely at the beads and see tiny little dimples... that explains why there is no deep penetration where discoloration would be evident

The dimples you are referring to are from when I let off the trigger, not from contamination. Do you know what the discolored metal 1/4" out on each side of the weld is from? Heat & Penetration, AKA a good weld. See attached photo... hope that helps..:goodidea:

[Rodeheaver's]

Tim,

You are correct, I did start and stop. That is a very hard area to prep and lay a good and continuous weld. You know where I got the idea from? Dave Zimmerman @ Team Z Motorports. I was there a couple weekends ago and noticed thats how they weld up the boxes at their shop. Dave was kind enough to explain to me why and I wanted to try this on my car first, before attempting to do so on a customers car.

In response to...



The dimples you are referring to are from when I let off the trigger, not from contamination. Do you know what the discolored metal 1/4" out on each side of the weld is from? Heat & Penetration, AKA a good weld. See attached photo... hope that helps..:goodidea:

Cool man, i wasnt knocking your welds... Just explaining to Ed, to better answer his question...:goodidea:

[2000 Ultra Z]

Im state certifed in stick and mig welding from 18ga to 3/4 and thats the way to do the light stuff because theres a thing called to much heat where the weld will be there and look ok but all the heat made the area around the weld weak and it tear away from the weld

[MBH]

Cool man, i wasnt knocking your welds... Just explaining to Ed, to better answer his question...:goodidea:


Im state certifed in stick and mig welding from 18ga to 3/4 and thats the way to do the light stuff because theres a thing called to much heat where the weld will be there and look ok but all the heat made the area around the weld weak and it tear away from the weld
sounds like you guys are saying the same thing :goodidea: :beerchug:

really dumb questions I should be embarrassed to ask: what do torque boxes do and why do they need upgraded? I'm guessing that they have something to do with chassis stabilization (like chassis twisting and flexing) but I wasn't sure and a quick google search just brought back results for installing new ones etc.

[HidalgoGT]

sounds like you guys are saying the same thing :goodidea: :beerchug:

really dumb questions I should be embarrassed to ask: what do torque boxes do and why do they need upgraded? I'm guessing that they have something to do with chassis stabilization (like chassis twisting and flexing) but I wasn't sure and a quick google search just brought back results for installing new ones etc.
The torque boxes are where your control arms mount and are only spot welded in. Once you start making the car hook with tires and upgraded control arms they start taring apart at the spot welds as they are the only holding points. So, you weld the entire seems like Mike did in his pic's to greatly strengthen it. They also have plates you can install and weld around to make it thicker to handle more abuse. Only, dumb question is one not asked. :goodidea:

[Rodeheaver's]

You know Mike, this is actually great news for me to hear, you know as well as i do how hard those torque boxes can be to weld, especially on an older fox that has seen its far share of rust.. I feel that doing it this way may turn out to be a much better/easier way of doing it. The biggest problem i run into is while trying to maintain a solid bead the panel itself gets very hot and starts to melt the undercoating and paint in the surrounding area and it runs into the weld.. I am glad to have read all of this..

[Wolfpack Speed]

i wasnt knocking your welds

Thats how I took it, no big deal either way.

[Wolfpack Speed]

theres a thing called to much heat where the weld will be there and look ok but all the heat made the area around the weld weak and it tear away from the weld

Bingo!!!

[Wolfpack Speed]

You know Mike, this is actually great news for me to hear, you know as well as i do how hard those torque boxes can be to weld, especially on an older fox that has seen its far share of rust.. I feel that doing it this way may turn out to be a much better/easier way of doing it. The biggest problem i run into is while trying to maintain a solid bead the panel itself gets very hot and starts to melt the undercoating and paint in the surrounding area and it runs into the weld.. I am glad to have read all of this..Give it a shot, I think you will like doing them this way.

[Wolfpack Speed]

Did a little more welding and started to paint...

[street591]

Did a little more welding and started to paint...


Looks really good mike! :hyper:

[2001GTTT]

that things come a long way quick, looks like it will be sick when done mike!!

[bgblockelcamino]

just checked it out. looking good mike!

[coralcoupe1993]

Looks great! Glad to see the paint. Kind of like a bumble bee black and yellow.

[Mater]

SHOW BIT CH ,UR hanging around Lou to much

[biminiLX]

Great idea to do that now Mike, looks killer.
-J

[Wolfpack Speed]

Thanks guys!!!

[yeahloh95]

looks great mike i need to come check it out

[Wolfpack Speed]

Did a little more painting today...

[Shadowstealth]

Did you single stage that hoss?

[biminiLX]

Gonna need those show-car mirrors under the car at the track? :)
-J

[Wolfpack Speed]

Definitely not a show car! Most of the underneath was actually already painted black by one of the previous owners. There were still yellow spots so I just hit the underneath with brake cleaner, then I 2 coated it with some rusto spray bomb! Just wanted it all 1 color and wasn't worried about how it would turn out. Other then a few minor runs and dirty spots, it actually turned out pretty nice!

[MBH]

Most of the underneath was actually already painted black by one of the previous owners. I thought you said that only women had been the previous owners of the car? Am I misunderstanding you or are you're saying they went under the car and painted it? Looks nice and clean under there Mike

[Wolfpack Speed]

I thought you said that only women had been the previous owners of the car? Am I misunderstanding you or are you're saying they went under the car and painted it? Looks nice and clean under there Mike
That is what I said and that is correct. Whatever it is was sprayed on but it's not textured like undercoating, this is something different...

[Mater]

I thought you said that only women had been the previous owners of the car? Am I misunderstanding you or are you're saying they went under the car and painted it? Looks nice and clean under there Mike

That car is still owned by a women!:rotflol:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Put the axle housing and most of the suspension in. Set up the rearend and would have had everything buttoned up to include the brakes but strange sent the wrong axles...off to the front suspension again!

[Mater]

looking good steelshi ty

[Wolfpack Speed]

looking good steelshi tyThanks sista! Wanna do grub tonight?

[street591]

What kind of suspension did you end up going with Mike?


Looks good regardless :thumbsup:

[Wolfpack Speed]

What kind of suspension did you end up going with Mike?


Looks good regardless :thumbsup:http://teamzmotorsports.net/rear_suspension.html#rearsuspension

Strip Series #1, QA1 Double Adjustable Shocks, Bullit Springs....Thanks!

[street591]

http://teamzmotorsports.net/rear_suspension.html#rearsuspension

Strip Series #1, QA1 Double Adjustable Shocks, Bullit Springs....Thanks!

Thats awesome! Ive heard great things about team z stuff!


Also whats the plans for the interior? (8 point, harnesses, etc.)

((Are you pms back on by chance? I had a quick question for you about something)) :thumbsup:

[yeahloh95]

looks great i need to get in touch with you about doing a 8.8 up like yours for my coupe

[Mater]

Thanks sista! Wanna do grub tonight?

sure ,where?

[Wolfpack Speed]

Thats awesome! Ive heard great things about team z stuff!


Also whats the plans for the interior? (8 point, harnesses, etc.)

((Are you pms back on by chance? I had a quick question for you about something)) :thumbsup:Dave and the crew do great work and so far have been awesome to work with. The car is getting a full moly 10 point with through the floor subs, rear firewall, tin and frame work out back for a fuel cell, intercooler reservoir and chute....

Pm's are off for good...ring me at the shop or shoot me an email:goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

looks great i need to get in touch with you about doing a 8.8 up like yours for my coupeDefinitely do, I can build you whatever you need...not a problem:goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

sure ,where?let me call the little mountain and see what he has in mind....i could go for some chicken parm:thmbsup:

[street591]

Pm's are off for good...ring me at the shop or shoot me an email:goodidea:


Emailed :o

[Mater]

let me call the little mountain and see what he has in mind....i could go for some chicken parm:thmbsup:

ok,give me a call when u know!:thmbsup:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Started to clean the car up some while I am waiting on more parts. The hood was a mess underneath the hood blanket, so was the engine bay. The engine bay needs a good bit of paint touch up from when the dealer installed the revised heads, so far it's cleaning up nice. Also started cleaning up the mess on the inside...

[mr4teth]

:jaw-dropping: Holy cow Mike .... you totally gutted that car! I can't wait to see it together and on the track!

[yeahloh95]

nice i see you went with the maximum manual brake kit

[Wolfpack Speed]

:jaw-dropping: Holy cow Mike .... you totally gutted that car!:sticktonge:

[Wolfpack Speed]

nice i see you went with the maximum manual brake kitYes, nice kit!

[Wolfpack Speed]

Well, I couldn't sleep last night knowing that my car would be 3 different colors underneath the carpet:hyper: So I freaked out today and did a little painting, was also worried about moisture getting to the the bare metal and rusting the floors from all the scraping. After it gets back from the chassis shop I will clean the paint up and add where I need to. Still have a mess in the trunk to clean up but most of the metal back there is getting cut out anyways:slaphappy: Correct length axles showed up today, put the hats on to figure out the backspacing for the wheels:thmbsup:

[wick]

That rear end is pure sex...

[RUTHLESS]

^ Wick likes your rear end!! :rofl:

[Mater]

mike takes it in the rear end!!!!:rofl::rofl:

[HidalgoGT]

Dunno if you use the spare tire space, but what about cutting it out and replacing it to make the trunk floor flat? Would shave a lil more weight not having the dished down section and make more of the floor usuable to mount goodies.

[93FOX]

looks good, should be sick when its finished
nice meetin u other day
gotta come down check out the shop

[sutyak]

Mike this looks awesome!

[Inkdcountryboy]

Lookin goood!!!

[Wolfpack Speed]

Dunno if you use the spare tire space, but what about cutting it out and replacing it to make the trunk floor flat? Would shave a lil more weight not having the dished down section and make more of the floor usuable to mount goodies.Spare tire is getting cut out when they do the tin work and framing for the chute etc...


looks good, should be sick when its finished
nice meetin u other day
gotta come down check out the shop Nice to meet you guys! Stop in some time:thmbsup:


Thanks everyone! Been super busy and have another crazy week this week so the car might be on hold for till at least the weekend. Will post up some more pics as I button everything up in preperation for the trip to Team Z:goodidea:

[wick]

You want to sell the spare tire? I need one.

[biminiLX]

When's the trip planned Mike?
-J

[wick]

When's the trip planned Mike?
-J


Good question. Perhaps he could bring me back a K-member.

[Wolfpack Speed]

You want to sell the spare tire? I need one.

30 Pack of Miller Lite and it is yours:thmbsup:


When's the trip planned Mike?
-J

Not sure, as soon as the old mans car is done. Dave is waiting on a few parts for the rear but I believe the car is about done...I'm taking his spot in the shop!


Good question. Perhaps he could bring me back a K-memberNot a problem, you work everything out with Dave and I would be more then happy to bring it back for you. Don't call him until you are ready to swipe the card though. ...

[wick]

Sold! I will grab it on my way home today. Thanks man.

[scott5]

What all of the interior you selling mike?

[Wolfpack Speed]

What all of the interior you selling mike?Interior will remain stock except for these, OEM seats have already been sold:sticktonge:

[mr4teth]

Look at that messy shop! ....... :sticktonge: J/K

[Wolfpack Speed]

Look at that messy shop! ....... :sticktonge: J/KThats why I been here cleaning all morning:hyper: How was the ride home??? Thanks again for your business:goodidea:

[boost_92]

Looks like u got alot done since I was there to pick up the fuel tank. What injectors are in the engine??? Are they 24# and do you wanna sell them? I have a friend who needs them for his Jeep stroker build. Let me know how much if your sellin them.

[scott5]

you running ac or heat? What all were you able to cut out of the dash and are you going to run airbags?

[Wolfpack Speed]

Looks like u got alot done since I was there to pick up the fuel tank. What injectors are in the engine??? Are they 24# and do you wanna sell them? I have a friend who needs them for his Jeep stroker build. Let me know how much if your sellin them.

I'm trying but there always seems to be an emergency Vortech install or something:rotflol: Stock cobra injectors, they will be for sale at some point...


you running ac or heat? What all were you able to cut out of the dash and are you going to run airbagsNo A/C, Heat or Air Bags. You can get more weight out of the dash then that but I will address that down the road, just wanted to do the basic stuff for now:sticktonge:

[mr4teth]

Thats why I been here cleaning all morning:hyper: How was the ride home??? Thanks again for your business:goodidea:

The car doesn't feel much different! Maybe a little stiffer? I can't wait to get to the track and test it out! Thanks for getting me in and out so fast! :thmbsup:

[scott5]

No A/C, Heat or Air Bags. You can get more weight out of the dash then that but I will address that down the road, just wanted to do the basic stuff for now:sticktonge:

Nice.. Do you still have it out of the car? I still havent been able to come up and see the shop yet and this would be a good chance to see it and see what all you ripped out cause im doing the same to my 00:goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Nice.. Do you still have it out of the car? I still havent been able to come up and see the shop yet and this would be a good chance to see it and see what all you ripped out cause im doing the same to my 00:goodidea:Dash is still out but need to start putting the car back together next week. Give me a ring if you want to stop by:goodidea:

[Viper_ed]

That interior will be bad ass with those plastic lawn chairs in the. I hear they're much lighter than the Kirkey's too! :thmbsup:

[Wolfpack Speed]

That interior will be bad ass with those plastic lawn chairs in the. I hear they're much lighter than the Kirkey's too! :thmbsup:
:rotflol:

[burntire]

How are you going to mount the Kirkeys?

[Wolfpack Speed]

How are you going to mount the Kirkeys?I was going to use the Rigid Race Car mounts that I had in my old car but they probably wont work with the through the floor subs. I am going to make a set anyways but Dave @ Team Z has a nice setup that he will incorporate for me...

[Wolfpack Speed]

Everything is done out back less the anti-roll bar, front is done too! Need to remove the dash cover, bolt on some wheels and she will be ready to go in the trailer! Heading to Team Z on Friday to drop off mine and pick up racefan's turd!

[weareweird69]

That is a thing of beauty! Very nice Mike!!!

[Wolfpack Speed]

Thanks!

[Inkdcountryboy]

Lookin good man!!! what kinda front yoke is that your running?

[wishIhada5.0]

WOW! that looks really good! is this the cobra my heat exchanger came from mike? lol

[Wolfpack Speed]

what kinda front yoke is that your running??????????

[Wolfpack Speed]

WOW! that looks really good! is this the cobra my heat exchanger came from mike? lolSure is!

[Inkdcountryboy]

yea i know im an idiot.. but the rearend yoke looks flat???

[bgblockelcamino]

yea i know im an idiot.. but the rearend yoke looks flat???


that is standard ford 8.8 yoke at least that is what it looks like to me. the rangers full size trucks and mustangs use them

looking good mike will try to stop down this week to check it out before it leaves

[Inkdcountryboy]

ooooooooooh yea im dumb... in my mind i had everything flipped..sorry for the brain fart... wasnt thinking straight!

[yeahloh95]

looking good mike, have you put in on scales yet?

[SonofaBish]

Very nice Mike!

i stopped in last night to see what's up, and you had already left i guess... somewhere around 6:15 or so

[wishIhada5.0]

Sure is!

sweet! now when you car turns some rediculous time I can say that I have a small part of it :D haha

[Wolfpack Speed]

I built the rear end using a GT companion flange, pictured on the left is the IRS Cobra companion flange. 6-speed solid axle can retain the OEM cobra drive shaft if you use the cobra companion flange. Standard output C4 solid axle can use the fox body aluminum drive shaft with a gt companion flange.


looking good mike, have you put in on scales yet?

No yet, when the car is all done and the suspension is ready to be setup. Old car weighed 3180 without me, hoping for sub 3k, less me.


i stopped in last night to see what's up, and you had already left i guess... somewhere around 6:15 or soWent to the movies, paranormal activity:hyper:


sweet! now when you car turns some ridiculous time I can say that I have a small part of it :D haha

LOL...she is going to be a lot faster then people think;)

[coralcoupe1993]

Looking good dood.

[scott5]

What kind of wheels did you end up going with mike?

[Wolfpack Speed]

Looking good dood.

Thanks bud, stop down with the new truck! Wait till we put a tune on her:hyper: I think I have 1 X3 left in stock:goodidea:


What kind of wheels did you end up going with mike?

Haven't purchased wheels yet but they will be the black aluma stars from earlier in this thread. Same with the rears, they are coming out with a black version of them as well:goodidea:

Anybody want to buy that bad ass 8.8 that I built for the car? If so, ring me at the shop...I will make someone a good deal!

I have pretty much received full sponsorship for the rest of the build, many things have changed so I will have some nice parts for sale:rotflol:

[Mater]

Congrats Mikey!

[Wolfpack Speed]

Congrats Mikey!

Thanks!

[burntire]

Gonna put a FAB9 in there?

[Wolfpack Speed]

Gonna put a FAB9 in there?Im going to need a 9":hyper:

[bgblockelcamino]

look into midwest chassis. they have a their own fab 9. from what i see wtay away from moser M9 seems to have some problems with them.

[scott5]

Congrats on the sponsorship mike!

[Viper_ed]

Im going to need a 9":hyper:

Chris Alstin :goodidea:

http://www.cachassisworks.com/iwwidb.pvx?;multi_item_submit?FORM_SELECT=C?CAT_LV L=0?CAT=F9OEM60?COMP=CAC

[Wolfpack Speed]

Chris Alstin :goodidea:

http://www.cachassisworks.com/iwwidb.pvx?;multi_item_submit?FORM_SELECT=C?CAT_LV L=0?CAT=F9OEM60?COMP=CACThey make very nice stuff!

Thanks guys, well see what happens!

[Viper_ed]

They make very nice stuff!

For sure! Lou and I got to check out alot of their products at SEMA a few years ago. Curious why you're going with the 9" though? An 8.8 can live under a 1,200 rwhp car with no issues with the aftermarket that exists for them.

[2000 Ultra Z]

For sure! Lou and I got to check out alot of their products at SEMA a few years ago. Curious why you're going with the 9" though? An 8.8 can live under a 1,200 rwhp car with no issues with the aftermarket that exists for them.

might be getting a john force drop out now thats some sponsor ship congrats

[Wolfpack Speed]

For sure! Lou and I got to check out alot of their products at SEMA a few years ago. Curious why you're going with the 9" though? An 8.8 can live under a 1,200 rwhp car with no issues with the aftermarket that exists for them.I don't disagree with you but the car will come out on a built motor that more then likely will have a big twin screw. Without the option of a pro gear for the 8.8, r&p's start to become a weak link and I am sure I will be hitting the tires pretty hard! When I swapped in the 3.55's after the c4 in my old car, the 4.10's had some missing teeth! The auto doesn't shock the parts and tires as hard but with the help I am getting, I just want to do everything right the first time

Thanks guys! Car is at Team Z now, not sure when I will get it back and really don't care to be honest! Busy at the shop and it is nice to have it out of my hair! I decided to have them mini tub the car, their tin work is so nice and they do a sweet job of tying everything together, just didn't make sense not to do it now! It will be an 8.50 cage but I am having them construct it with some of the initial bar work for a 25.5. chassis. This will make it a much more affordable and easier upgrade for down the road when I am ready! I asked Dave to take some pictures along the way, I will post up some updates when I can. Discovery channel was starting to setup up for a chassis build off while I was there! Look for my turd in the background when the program airs!

For anyone looking for this kind of work, well worth the trip out and back as well as the money. Dave is a great guy, knows his stuff and their work is really unbelievable. We are also a dealer for his suspension components if any of our in shop customers are interested.

Thanks!

Mike

[coralcoupe1993]

Awesome man! :thmbsup:

[Pure Stock]

[QUOTE=Viper_ed;212809 An 8.8 can live under a 1,200 rwhp car with no issues with the aftermarket that exists for them.[/QUOTE]

Must be some soft leaving 1200 rwhp buggy. It's not the amount of power in some cases, it's the application of it. There are examples of grenaded 8.8's with rwhp #'s in the 450-470 range. Even less than that in other instances, e.g., 363 rwhp @ 2,950 race weight. In addition, the ease of gear swaps and the ratio selection are in favor of the 9", by far.

[yeahloh95]

man i don't know 9 inches are so heavy , how much you taking off the rear for the mini tub mike 2 inches ?

[Wolfpack Speed]

It's not the amount of power in some cases, it's the application of it.

Well put!


man i don't know 9 inches are so heavy , how much you taking off the rear for the mini tub mike 2 inches ?

I don't know from experience but I find it hard to believe that with all the light weight housing and hardware options for the 9" that you can't build one considerably lighter then your typical 9"? Possibly lighter then an 8.8 when it is all said and done? I guess we will find out! Not sure what I am going to do with the housing width just yet...

[bgblockelcamino]

physically a 9 inch can be lighter with fab style housing but take more power to turn them over a typical 8.8. but the gain in strength outweighs the loss in drag due to gear set.

[Wolfpack Speed]

take more power to turn them over a typical 8.8.Thats what I would really like to know more about, make for some good testing on the dyno some day!

[burntire]

8.8 is a weak link. I have bent mine which is now braced up. Every set of gears is nice and quiet during the breakin. Then they get noisy after I hit them with slick launches. I had one set that was chipped. I am not the only one other there that has had issues with the gears not holding up. I use a solid pinion spacer.

A 9" has a 3rd pinion bearing instead of 2 like the 8.8. I think that is where my problems arises. There is not doubt that something is flexing under load with the 8.8.

Then you get into the talk of the weight and robbing power with a 9". I would think that a pinion that is not binding due to the additional support would be more efficient.

When I replace my 8.8 I will get a Fab9 Housing with the anti roll bar and brace. Nodular Case, 3.50 gear, 35 spline axles, and the new wavtrac differential.

It may weight a little more, but I will never worry about crap exploding again.

[somethingclever]

When I replace my 8.8 I will get a Fab9 Housing with the anti roll bar and brace. Nodular Case, 3.50 gear, 35 spline axles, and the new wavtrac differential.

It may weight a little more, but I will never worry about crap exploding again.



If I was doing one for a drag car I would consider 40spl gun drilled axles with a lightweight spool and a pro-gear gear set.

[coralcoupe1993]

I have many 9” setups laying around if you want to take one to compare. Buy light weight spool, sheet metal housing, and aluminum 3rd member.

[NateSVT]

Any new pics Mike?

[biminiLX]

I spy?
http://www.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=51545
-J

[scott5]

i think i see it.. SOMEBODY STOLE HIS WHEELS!! haha

[Wolfpack Speed]

Any new pics Mike?They start cutting the car up next week:jump: Probably going to take a ride out in the next few weeks, I will take some pics then...

[weareweird69]

What in the world is going on now?

[Wolfpack Speed]

What in the world is going on now?Who knows, by the time it comes back it will probably be a low rider:laughing:

[TooFast98Cobra]

looks good man, I wanted to send my car to Dave, decided to tackle the mini tub and cage with wick, it may never get done LOL

[Wolfpack Speed]

looks good man, I wanted to send my car to Dave, decided to tackle the mini tub and cage with wick, it may never get done LOL

I just don't have the time, experience or tooling to tackle this part of the project. I wanted it done right the first time by a proffesional who specializes in this kind of work. This car is going to be fast and it needs to be safe. Besides, it's nice not having it in the way at the shop:sticktonge:

[TooFast98Cobra]

I just don't have the time, experience or tooling to tackle this part of the project. I wanted it done right the first time by a proffesional who specializes in this kind of work. This car is going to be fast and it needs to be safe. Besides, it's nice not having it in the way at the shop:sticktonge:

cool man, i'm sure I will see you around this year at a show or track sometime, or a red light lol, good luck with build

[racefan]

They start cutting the car up next week:jump: Probably going to take a ride out in the next few weeks, I will take some pics then...

Anyone can restore em, But it takes a Real man to cut one Up!!!!:thmbsup:

[burntire]

Is it going to be an 8.5 or 7.5 cage?

[Wolfpack Speed]

Is it going to be an 8.5 or 7.5 cage?

I ended up telling Dave and the crew to 25.5 the car:highfive:

[burntire]

7.5 it is.

[Mater]

Maybe now its

[Wolfpack Speed]

:rotflol:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Couple pictures I took with Lou's camera when we were at Team Z this past weekend...

[yeahloh95]

that looks awsome , they do great work

[wick]

Looks real good.:thmbsup:

[racefan]

That looks just like my chassis work!!!:thumbsup:

[Mater]

nice

[burntire]

Looks good Mike!

[coralcoupe1993]

SUPER! :goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Thanks guys!

[biminiLX]

That looks just like my chassis work!!!:thumbsup:
x2
Lookin' good Mike!
:thmbsup:
-J

[Wolfpack Speed]

Got my rear wheels, what does everyone think? I am going to replace the wheel center bolts and washers with black anodized pieces, I think it would look better that way. I got the fronts and tires too, but they are on the other side of the state with Jon, went with the black front posted earlier...

[93FOX]

black bolts in them would look sick:goodidea:

[TooFast98Cobra]

what width? 12?

[Wolfpack Speed]

black bolts in them would look sick:goodidea:

I agree!


what width? 12?

15" x 10"...5" BS...going to run a 275/60R15 ET Street Radial:goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Got some quick pictures from Dave @ Team Z this weekend...

[TooFast98Cobra]

I was going to use the Rigid Race Car mounts that I had in my old car but they probably wont work with the through the floor subs. I am going to make a set anyways but Dave @ Team Z has a nice setup that he will incorporate for me...

hey man you still have those seat mts?

[Wolfpack Speed]

hey man you still have those seat mts?
I have one but it isn't mine. Was working on getting some made but got too busy. Let me see what I can do...

[gmkillr]

Lookin good Mike!:thmbsup:

Those wheels are badazz!

Did Dave give you a completion date?

If you make another trip up, count me in bud!:goodidea:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Lookin good Mike!:thmbsup:

Those wheels are badazz!

Did Dave give you a completion date?

If you make another trip up, count me in bud!:goodidea:

Probably making another trip out real SOON, I will let you know. I spoke with him this morning, most of the work is done, my guess is by the end of Feb...

[biminiLX]

Very nice Mike, lookin great!
I like the idea on the wheel bolts too, I was thinking that and then read your post.
My car may be done with the auto in that same time frame, I may ride out with you but I'll give you a ring to discuss the plan.
-J

[Wolfpack Speed]

Very nice Mike, lookin great!
I like the idea on the wheel bolts too, I was thinking that and then read your post.
My car may be done with the auto in that same time frame, I may ride out with you but I'll give you a ring to discuss the plan.
-J
Sounds good bud...

[scott5]

im guessing you plan on some low numbers with that cage...

[Wolfpack Speed]

im guessing you plan on some low numbers with that cage...That would be correct:sticktonge:

[Wolfpack Speed]

Got the tires mounted and balanced...

[biminiLX]

Oh yeah, I like!
-J

[1Badbird]

Look's great!

[racefan]

How are you going to get your "Fat Ass" in that car, with all those bars!!!!!:)

[yeahloh95]

those wheels look terrible you need to sell them to me right away

[Wolfpack Speed]

How are you going to get your "Fat Ass" in that car, with all those bars!!!!!:)I'm giving up drinking:sticktonge:

Thanks guys!