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wickedsnake03
12-01-2009, 04:26 PM
doing a solid swap in my cobra. I will be running mach 1 brackets so i can keep my cobra brakes and rotors.
Build will be 31spline axels, spool, and 3.73s. I know i am gonna need to run c clip eliminators but keep reading all the horror stories of how if you drive them on the street they will leak and eat bearings. Anyone have any input on that? Car will see about 3500-5000 miles a year.
Also i know i can always have 9inch housing ends welded onto my 8.8, but in that case what would i have to do for brakes, would it be possible to keep my cobra brakes and rotors yet or not.
Wolfpack Speed
12-01-2009, 05:11 PM
If you are in need or want axle retention, don't waste your time or money on c-clip eliminators. 9" ends and you can run the late model disc brake kit that ford racing offers. Only hang up with that kit is there is not an OEM provision for your OEM parking brake cables.
If you don't mind spending more money and want to retain your OEM brakes and parking brake cables, there is a way. DTS makes a custom 9" end and adapter bracket, it is more expensive, the housing needs to be a specific width after the ends are welded on and you will need custom length axles...
349Stroker
12-01-2009, 06:09 PM
9" ends are nice but the rear I had ate up bearings and they are a real pain to change and are expensive and will require a custom axle. C clip eliminators on the other hand I never had trouble with.A leak here and there but that was cause I smeared the rtv all over the place.LOL
IMHO I'd run an eaton posi and keep the c clips.The axle can't go anywhere anyways since the caliper holds the rotor
wickedsnake03
12-01-2009, 06:28 PM
My issue with keeping the c clips isnt the safety factor since i agree the brakes will keep the axle there, its the track. I plan on going faster then 10.99
yeahloh95
12-01-2009, 06:43 PM
i too am for 9 inch ends and if you are going with a spool you might as well step up to 33 spline axles
Sonic03snake
12-01-2009, 06:52 PM
9" ends are nice but the rear I had ate up bearings and they are a real pain to change and are expensive and will require a custom axle. C clip eliminators on the other hand I never had trouble with.A leak here and there but that was cause I smeared the rtv all over the place.LOL
IMHO I'd run an eaton posi and keep the c clips.The axle can't go anywhere anyways since the caliper holds the rotorId stay away from the eaton posi's. I know 3 people who have exploded them with stick cars.
wickedsnake03
12-01-2009, 06:56 PM
I am probally just gonna end up with c clip elims and hope for the best really. Just hope i am one of the lucky ones. The car will definatly have a spool. I figure that way it will hold what i wanna throw at it.
Sonic03snake
12-01-2009, 07:00 PM
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80559&highlight=eaton+posi
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94872&highlight=eaton+posi
349Stroker
12-01-2009, 07:11 PM
Damn never seen an Eaton do that and Jason I would do what Troy said and go 33.The cost won't be any different and go with eliminators
Wolfpack Speed
12-01-2009, 07:54 PM
x2 on the eaton posi, I exploded the one in my white cobra trying to race that slow poke MikeyMustang at PRP...LOL!!!!
wickedsnake03
12-01-2009, 07:58 PM
Can I run 33 spline axels guys. I thought i seen somewhere that you had to have 9inch ends to run them.
Id stay away from the eaton posi's. I know 3 people who have exploded them with stick cars.
Great... I just got one too. 31 spline version.
Martin0660
12-01-2009, 11:59 PM
Great... I just got one too. 31 spline version.
No worries Rob... all those cars broke at the track and launching above idle... you should be fine :sticktonge::sticktonge::sticktonge:
No worries Rob... all those cars broke at the track and launching above idle... you should be fine :sticktonge::sticktonge::sticktonge:
HAHAHA Whew!!! For a minute there I was worried...:thmbsup:
Sonic03snake
12-02-2009, 12:11 AM
No worries Rob... all those cars broke at the track and launching above idle... you should be fine :sticktonge::sticktonge::sticktonge:
OHHH, thats going to leave a mark.:laughing:
NateSVT
12-02-2009, 03:43 AM
I am doing a solid swap this winter with a similar setup. I'm using a fox housing, SN-95 width 31 or 33 spline axles, spool, and 3.73s.
I was also wondering about what to do with the C-Clip elims. I'm kind of confused about it. If you use 9" ends then you don't need C-Clip eliminators? The c-clip elims are $130 from Summit. How much is the total for 9" ends and install?
If I got normal c-clip axles could I install c-clip elims later? Or do you need special axles to use with c-clip elims?
OHHH, thats going to leave a mark.:laughing:
Ha ha. Yeah, I was going to sell my ford 31 spline but I may just hang on to. It.
TooFast98Cobra
12-02-2009, 11:02 AM
wick you will be fine, I ran my eaton on those mid 10 sec passes and launched hard, no problems
post a pic of my rear with the 9 in ends
349Stroker
12-02-2009, 11:13 AM
Can I run 33 spline axels guys. I thought i seen somewhere that you had to have 9inch ends to run them.
nope no 9" ends needed. My blue car had 33's and a spool in it and then when I sold it to Brandon he put the stuff in the red coupe.go with 33's cause you won't ever have to worry bout breaking anything again
somethingclever
12-02-2009, 11:19 AM
No worries Rob... all those cars broke at the track and launching above idle... you should be fine :sticktonge::sticktonge::sticktonge:
I just LOL'd at work....:laughing:
wishIhada5.0
12-02-2009, 12:43 PM
That rear end took a dump pretty hard lol
Wolfpack Speed
12-02-2009, 02:56 PM
If you use 9" ends then you don't need C-Clip eliminators? The c-clip elims are $130 from Summit. How much is the total for 9" ends and install?
If I got normal c-clip axles could I install c-clip elims later? Or do you need special axles to use with c-clip elims?
C-Clip eliminators are a form of axle retention just like the 9" ends, you don't need both, just one or the other. If you build an 8.8 with standard c-clip axles, you can add the c-clip eliminators later. Strange makes eliminator kits for stock and stock replacement type axles as well as specific kits for just their axles. Cost for the 9" ends and labor will vary, just depends how you go about it like with anything else. You will have at least 2X$ in the 9" versus the c-clip eliminators.
349Stroker
12-02-2009, 03:11 PM
You can install c clip eliminators on c clip axles.All you have to do is cut the end of the axle off that the c clip slides on and install the eliminator.However the axles without c clips look like a much beefier axle than one with c clips.I however wouldn't do this myself but have seen it done and works just fine
Martin0660
12-02-2009, 05:52 PM
OHHH, thats going to leave a mark.:laughing:
It looks like those Eaton's left plenty of marks ...
That was the disapointing part of my rear end carnage this year, never even put a drop of oil on the track for any of them :sticktonge:
Maybe have a better shot at making an oil down with the Detroit locker this season ... seems liek the "better" rears blow up when they go :awsome:
gmkillr
12-02-2009, 06:26 PM
Ha ha. Yeah, I was going to sell my ford 31 spline but I may just hang on to. It.
Stick with the Trak-Lok, they can take some big time abuse.
Thats what I run......:veryhappy:
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