Winter Capri Upgrades ...

[Martin0660]

Parts started to arrive for my winter upgrades for the Capri. Nothing real exciting yet but I figured I would start a thread with part pictures and update as some of this comes along.

31 spline Detroit Locker. Hopefully this ends my exploding side gear issue ;)

http://inlinethumb44.webshots.com/43371/2712608670066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2712608670066453426kqbPxc)

I have been running a 4.10 gear most of last season and the start of this one. When I fragged that rear I tried a 3.55. I was actually pretty happy with that combo with the 26" slicks. For this year I'm going back to a 27" tall DOT tire so I went with a 3.73 gear (Ford Racing).

http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/43370/2190025250066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2190025250066453426sOmXLi)

Ford Racing install kit ...

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/1605/2141267950066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2141267950066453426wvZYvI)

Moser studs for the bearing caps (they are actually made by ARP) ...

http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/43615/2037675790066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2037675790066453426NQJMeo)

Moser Girdle cover ...

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/44955/2020276270066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2020276270066453426LpujtG)

I also have 31 spline Moser axles and 3" studs for them.

I still need to make a decision on a brace. Right now i'm really thinking about uning the Swarr Bar on this rear. The CHE and tubular mounts are likely to get into my 3" tail pipe and I wouldnt be able to stand this thing if it was dumped so I need the tail pipe. I would likely have already ordered the Swarr brace if it wasnt out of stock at American Muscle (Only place I see that carries it?)

It's a start anyway :D

[Martin0660]

In addition to the rear upgrades, I have several other projects going on. I'm going to convert from the single V belt over to a serpentine set-up. The issue with that has always been the available pullies. Most all of them for the 2.3 have multiple grooves for the accessories. I was finally able to find both a single crank and single water pump pulley. Been a PITA to find both of these so I imported them from Canada :D (where non-AC / non PS cars are found)

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/45635/2918563330066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2918563330066453426krcfwh)

Not very exciting for most but something I have been looking for ;)

[Martin0660]

I am also going ot move to a large(er) external wastegate. I had every intention of going with a 44mm V-band Tial, but found out Precision just launched a 46mm V-band of their own. Since I run a Precision turbo, I will be testing one of these out. It's on it's way, just not here yet.

The Precision piece will bolt in place of a Tial, comes with 5 springs (only get one with Tial), is a little shorter that the Tial, plus the price is right. This one only comes in Black now (Tial has colors) but it looks good to me. I will post some detailed pictures of the unit once I get it in my hands ...

[Ares]

You should be happy with the locker. If I haven't killed their Truetrac yet after 3 seasons then that locker should live happliy ever after under your car.

[wick]

That locker looks "pre split" in the pic. HAHAHHA

Nice stuff there Robert.

[yeahloh95]

nice looking parts bob

[Martin0660]

that locker should live happliy ever after under your car.

Is that a challenge ? :highfive:


That locker looks "pre split" in the pic.

Nah, just durabilty tested ;) It's got to cme apart some how :goodidea:

[phillysrt4]

nice set of parts! let me know more wastegate details once you have it in your hands.

Oh and on the Canada parts, you're welcome ;)

[biminiLX]

Lookin good Bob, looking forward to seeing it at the track.
I would have given you the 3" studs I have from going to 5/8"
That WG looks sweet too, I think you'll like it.
Boost going up too? ;)
-J

[Martin0660]

Oh and on the Canada parts, you're welcome ;)

You in export control or the prime minister or something??? :sticktonge: I do know two other real Canadians...eh :rotflol:

You are going to like where I'm going with EMS but it's not here yet ;)


Boost going up too?

Yep, this turbo is sized for right at 30 psi on my junk and hasnt been even close to that. When we crossed 25 psi it ran out of injector and was going lean so I backed off to 24 psi and stopped there. I have 55#'s injectors in there now, going to at least 75's, with some thoughts of 95's if I think I can keep them clean at idle (a little worried about low PW control). The 75's would take me well past my shortblock anyway but up to 95#'s are the same price :D

[phillysrt4]

You in export control or the prime minister or something??? :sticktonge:

I would rather slide down a sliding board of razor blades into a pool of alcohol and set myself on fire before being associated with that damn tory Harper :P



You are going to like where I'm going with EMS but it's not here yet ;)


I'm looking forward to it! :goodidea:

[Sonic03snake]

Looks like you will have to find a new weak link next year, LOL. :sticktonge:

[Martin0660]

Looks like you will have to find a new weak link next year

LOL, my weakest link has always been the nut behind the wheel :rofl: The problems usually start there anyway.

I'm pretty sure the 4 cylinder T5's are next on the "weak link" list. Some find it odd that they live at all :rofl: The good news is, Frank and I can change one in about an hour and a half now :D

[Ares]

Is that a challenge ? :highfive:



Maybe :Devious:

[Martin0660]

Maybe :Devious:

I'm not making any predictions this year ... Last year was pretty much a fail for me as far as meeting goals (and I know at least part of what you have lurking on the "shelf"). The external gate should solve my biggest issue of boost all over the place, and the new EMS should make it more consistant as it will have true barometric compensation. We will see :highfive:

[biminiLX]

hmm, NA 2V 4.6 vs. big boost 2.3T
I like the grudge match possibilities, especially with 2 nuts behind the wheel. ;)
-J

[Martin0660]

I like the grudge match possibilities

nah, Ed has me covered these days and will have me even better next year once his new parts come together ....


especially with 2 nuts behind the wheel. ;)


I don't want to speak for Ed here, but I consider that a compliment :goodidea: We try to give the fans their money worth :3gears:

[Ares]

I don't want to speak for Ed here, but I consider that a compliment :goodidea: We try to give the fans their money worth :3gears:

True story :rotflol: :3gears: :3gears:

[Martin0660]

UPS gut stopped by today with more parts .... Long story, but I messed the keyway up on my cam pulley so I took advantage of Esslingers year end sale to order up another one. The one on the cam now is "okay" just makes me a little nervous now that this is an interference engine. I'm goingto take the one currently on the cam and use it as a light pulley on the auxillary shaft. This should start some conversations having an adjustable pulley driving the Dizzy :D

http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/43555/2107338790066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2107338790066453426IdUfqJ)

[Martin0660]

True story

A story that still makes me smile ...

One night at the track I was walking around, saw Ed and crew hanging out by the fence. Was there talking to Ed and someones girlfriend / wife/ whatever looks over at Ed and tells him that there is this car there that she thinks leaves harder than his ...

Ed asked what color it was .... yep, Black :D

[yeahloh95]

was that the night i was there with the svo ????

[Martin0660]

was that the night i was there with the svo ????

Couldn't of been, this was a regular race day :D

[Martin0660]

The Precision 46 mm gate came today :D

What's in the box (2 springs in head)

http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/45487/2946259820066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2946259820066453426hlrHGW)

Side view

http://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/44353/2211079810066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2211079810066453426pNzble)

Outlet and valve guide ...

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/45024/2465856200066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2465856200066453426GiUdOA)

[Martin0660]

5 springs included. In combination, you can get 2.5 to 25.5 psi gate pressure

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/32737/2166869580066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2166869580066453426bbwkRG)

Piston and Diaphram ...

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/44187/2059155530066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2059155530066453426kMKmXu)

Spring stack for 10.5 psi gate pressure ...

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/46449/2863241930066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2863241930066453426ribjMv)

[Martin0660]

Dual ports on bottom side (use either or both) and it comes with fittings & plugs ....

http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/20456/2268531800066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2268531800066453426SYEWkp)

Header side with fire ring installed ...

http://inlinethumb21.webshots.com/13076/2211435370066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2211435370066453426jQbEMM)

Header side ...

http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/31322/2206091430066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2206091430066453426aOKcnb)

[yeahloh95]

mmmm 25.5 thats the springs i want

[Martin0660]

mmmm 25.5 thats the springs i want

:rofl::rofl::rofl: Well, not really. That might be the pressure you want, but I doubt you would want that as the spring ;)

[yeahloh95]

oh yeah i can just lift before i hurt anything and that way i dont need a boost controler

[biminiLX]

That looks like a quality peice Bob, nice pick-up.
My 60mm gate also has a dual spring set-up but so far I'm just running the weakest single for just under 7#.
So, where you STARTING the psi? :)
-J

[Martin0660]

My 60mm gate also has a dual spring set-up but so far I'm just running the weakest single for just under 7#.

This actually can be "trippled". There are grooves machined for all three diameter springs. to get 7#'s (7.5 actually) this would run the small natural and red spring. 25.5 (for Troy) would use the Small natural, red, and blue springs.


So, where you STARTING the psi? :)

I put the 10.5 # package in it for the base. That is typical for the internal gates I'm used to and will use the AMS to get up to where I want. I will play with other springs once it gets going. it's easier for me to add 10 to the setting in the AMS than some odd number :D

[Killercanary]

Bob, you can get the Swarr bar directly from Eric. I've known him for years and can't say enough good things about him. Here's a link to his site. He's in PA too so you should be able to get one in no time at all.

http://www.swarrauto.com/custom_parts.html

[Martin0660]

Bob, you can get the Swarr bar directly from Eric.

Paul - is there some secrete handsahake with him for a good price? He lists it on his site for $169.99 + shipping, American Muscle is $159.99 shipped. I'm not in a rush if I can save $20.00 or more $$'s ;) His brace is what I want for the car for sure.

[lib88stang]

The swarr bar is a nice piece, I was looking at them at ford carlisle

[mlowry1260]

Bob,

what ems are you going to run? Mega-spunk?

[Martin0660]

what ems are you going to run? Mega-spunk?

I have a plan but it's not absolute yet ;) Along those lines but different :D I am working through some details on the system / configuration and will post details when it's final.

[phillysrt4]

Nice score on the gate!

[somethingclever]

Looks good Bob....it's a shame though....with all those shiney new parts is this deal still considered ultra-low buck? :)

My 69 car went 12.1's with $2k in the engine total (includes buying it too) carb to pan @3520lbs....I always figured you were out-doing me though in the $/performance mark.....maybe this will put you over the top? :rotflol:

It's pretty sweet to run JY shortblocks and a factory head though....tough to beat $/performance wise! :hyper:

[Martin0660]

with all those shiney new parts is this deal still considered ultra-low buck? :)

Not even remotely now :( (at least in my mind). It's still "cheaper" than a lot of other options, but better parts keep finding there way on there ...

There is a lesson to be learned here, and I tell everyone that gets into the 2.3's, they are a GREAT bang for the buck set-up right until you max the Stock Injectors / VAM / T3 turbo, then it becomes a slippery slope of diminishing returns .....

Most of the shiney stuff here is driveline related as I'm breaking traction loks ... The gate isnt really needed to drive or "race" the car, but sure will help me with consistancy. That's sort of the theme for my upgrades this year, i'm not actually looking for any gains but want to run more consistant and not be down because it's broke.


It's pretty sweet to run JY shortblocks and a factory head though....tough to beat $/performance wise! :hyper:

The short block that in the car now, was "saved" by Mike (MAP) from a core pile at a rebuilder (true story) and it's the same head I've run as long as I've been into 2.3's (third car this head has been on).

Big blocks are also good bang for the buck ;)

[somethingclever]

I picked up a spare 2.3t longblock in nice shape for $100. :rotflol::rotflol:


I hear ya on the fuel system stuff......:thumbsup:


Good luck this year....can't wait to see it flying down the track. :goodidea:

[Martin0660]

Got a bunch of little misc stuff here now too. Everything in hand to start on the front of the engine .... Completely loosing the plastic covers this year and going to run naked up front :D to do this, you need "something" as a timing pointer. Mike Croke from MC-Machine makes these billet timing pointers ....

Pointer and hardware ....
http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/44269/2298450050066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2298450050066453426wdVfTY)

Scaled 0-30
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/44389/2194378910066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2194378910066453426DELkNA)

Fully adjustable to set true TDC as well
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/45887/2358728840066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2358728840066453426QZPFgF)

Mike makes some really neat stuff, find his web site here ...
http://mc-machine.com/mcm_joom/

Most everything I need is here now, time to start making things work :D

[wick]

I just bought his throttle bracket. Thanks for the link.:goodidea:

[Martin0660]

I just bought his throttle bracket.

it's a nice piece too, even if it does me no good ;) Should have told Mike I sent ya ;)

[wick]

I will send him an email saying so. HAHA I just used the paypal check out that directs it to.

[wick]

The $30 that bracket cost is better than the time I would have spent making mine look nice. Easy bolt on part.

[Martin0660]

I will send him an email saying so.

I doubt it would do either of us any good. I justthink he is a good guy making some nice bits ;)


The $30 that bracket cost is better than the time I would have spent making mine look nice.

Yeah, no doubt. Plus his design solves a few issues with tall valve covers and such.

I would love to convert over to his dash panel with all "real" gauges but just can't ever justify buying all the gauges.

[yeahloh95]

those pieces look like nice work

[wick]

I would love to convert over to his dash panel with all "real" gauges but just can't ever justify buying all the gauges.

Well, I was seriousley contemplating that. I have most of the gauges except for the Speedo. I have disabled my factory ones. I would just need the speedo and fuel level gauge. I want to do that too. Perhaps next years round of mods. I did too much this year, way too much.

[Martin0660]

Another big piece of the puzzle (confusion?) showed up today. I mentioned I was going to try something different for EMS, well here it is ...

http://inlinethumb53.webshots.com/30132/2514359860066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2514359860066453426lhCsTG)

This is a Microsquirt ECU (not MegaSquirt). This is a factory built ECU based on MS-II, V3 in a much reduced size package. To put it in perspective, this is the ECU with a single (all I have left ;) )

http://inlinethumb61.webshots.com/45756/2542831150066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2542831150066453426xKdfyy)

The unit also comes with a 3' flying lead harness...

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/44848/2815097990066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2815097990066453426oiqCYU)

[Martin0660]

One of the benefits of this package is that it uses a AmpSeal connector versus the typical MS DB15

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/44576/2454507920066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2454507920066453426MXRkeQ)

The unit is listed as IP64 for those of you that know those ratings, but is effectively weather tight (not water proof). Another big step up from the typical MS case design ...

http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/45191/2719571140066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2719571140066453426kmPXoM)

Unit and harness with " dial caliper for size persprective ...

http://inlinethumb34.webshots.com/45025/2561820400066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2561820400066453426miObjL)

[biminiLX]

Small computer for a small motor :)
-J

[wick]

Thats very nice Robert. We need to continue/finish our phone conversation also. Concerning some remainder items.:wink:

[Martin0660]

There are a few "limitations" with this package over traditional MS packages.

First, to keep the size small, the unit can only drive high Z injectors. These days with the new Siemens EV6's and fast operating times that isnt that big of a deal. I can still get 80# injectors for ~$50.00 each so it's no nbig deal to me.

Also to keep the package small, the MAP sensor was removed from the package. This is set-up to use a standard GM 3 bar MAP. This is actually an advantage IMO as I already have the GM 3 bar MAP, and do not like the MAP sensor living on the ECU. It could also be configured (software) for the AEM 4 bar if ever needed.

Outsdie of those points, it runs the traditional MS II code, and will run the Extra code. I will be using Tuner Studio for programming / tuning. to start with, I'm going to set this up as a plug in solution to the EEC connector (ditributor PIP signal and direct coil control). Once I get my feet wet with tuning this, I will move to a crank trigger and the COP LSx coils.

Pretty exciting, now we will see if the car ever runs again :D

[somethingclever]

HOw does this compare price-wise to teh AEM and Meqasquirt units?

[Martin0660]

J- Small everything over here ;)

Rob -Give me a yell when you get a change.


HOw does this compare price-wise to teh AEM and Meqasquirt units?

Last I saw pricing for the AEM, real cheap ;)

Compared to MS-1 or MS-II, well it depends :D If you are building your own MS, probably 2X the cost. If you are buying a prebuilt, vanila MS-II, about the same, BUT that includes the MAP sensor (it's additional here).

This was $400.00 including the flying lead harness. You would have to add the MAP sensor to that (~$65.00) and use high Z injectors. I already have the MAP, and needed to buy new injectors so that is all washed out.

I think Wilson get's $650.00 for his plug and play (bwahahahahhaha) MS-II kit for the 2.3.

For me, the MUCH better connector, sealed case, and flying lead harness far outweighed a few $$'s extra. Also keep in mind, this is a factory built and tested ECU, all potted, industrial quality versus most kits that are "hand built" regardless of buying it DIY or pre-built.

This sure will not be the solution for everyone, but I'm excited about the package.

[biminiLX]

Very nice Bob, sounds like that is a nice system.
I'd like to see what you do with it at the track, also want to see what you think of the XFI system in my car when we get to the track together one of these days.
I'll be a datalogging newbie. :)
-J

[mlowry1260]

Bob,

is there any way to datalog with this setup? It's invaluable for tuning.

[Martin0660]

also want to see what you think of the XFI system in my car when we get to the track together one of these days.

Can't wait ... i have lots of data, just need some meaning full data :D


is there any way to datalog with this setup?

Absolutely... Actually there are several....

First you can log to the laptop in the convential method. This records not only all inputs / outputs, but also everything happening in the ECM. You can do a full playback of the DL session, plus watch it interact on the timing, AFR, and VE maps.

Second, there is an application called PalmTune. Much like it sounds, it will let you do data logging, and do cell tuning with a palm pilot. These are neat because you can pick them up all over eBay for ~$50.00. You can't do configuration or heavy tuning, but it's great to log, then download back to the PC. You guys met Jim with the green Triumph at QCR .. he was running palm tune to log his runs there on MS-II.

Third, there are two mystery wires on the harness. These are set-up for what they call a CAN buss. Right now there is not a device that exists, but the Buss was built so that a SD device could be added. MS-III is coming and will use this to store datalogs onboard to a simple SD card. Once it is launched there, it will trickle to this set-up using the CAN Buss.

[Martin0660]

Mark - Here is a "snip" of an open data log from mega log viewer ....

You can see in the graph view for example in the first pane RPM / MAP / TP displayed with max, min, and the real value at the line. Those can be loaded in all three panes with any ECM values as they are all saved with the data log, you just display what you are working on.....

"more important, you might note on the right, the VE table is open as well as the AFR table ... The "blue squiggle" toward the upper right corner of each tables is the target as it moves through the tables in playback mode. So as you are looking at your log data, you can see exactly where you are on the tables (VE / Timing / AFR).

all of the "gauges" on the bottom are internal used values, any of those can be moved in or out of the graphs.

This IS NOT my stuff, just a sample I had laying around. Yo ucan see this only goes to 100 kpa load so it's a NA application. My stuff will be scaled to 200 KPA

[Martin0660]

Mark (and anyone else I didnt put to sleep yet) ....

You will also see a button called "VE Analyzer" between the tables. This is effectively an autotune feature for cruise VE tables. With a speed density system, you effectively set / tune your timing table no issue, you also set your AFR table based on what you "want", but you really need to fine tune the VE table to make it "right".

Either Tuner studio, or mega log viewer will take you AFR datalog, AFR table, and VE table and compare them. Effectively, it will tune the VE table to match your AFR table, but you can't live and die by it. It simpy is another tool to get you into the zone. Ypou can actually set the authority for the tuning so that it creeps up on it with small increments, or jumps right in :D

Lots of neat little tools in there to tune with. A guy that I'm working with on this has tuned just about every type of stand alone out there and swears tuner studio is better than any of the interfaces. We will see ....

[Martin0660]

One more Mark - This is what the Palm Log looks like ....

[biminiLX]

Thanks for putting me out Bob :)
Looks like enough to help me blow shit up haha.
That adaptive tune strategy sounds very cool and time saving.
I hope you don't max out a 3-bar MAP---is that 30 or 45 guage psi?
Also, I got a 2-year old Palm I never use, I wonder if I could watch my XFI with it.
Nice toy you got there man.
-J

[Martin0660]

I hope you don't max out a 3-bar MAP---is that 30 or 45 guage psi?

Enough to blow my shit up too :D 30 psi Gauge (1 bar = 15 psi, 1 bar is used up in the vacuum side to atmosphere, 2 positive (2 x 15 = 30)


Also, I got a 2-year old Palm I never use, I wonder if I could watch my XFI with it.

Unlikely ... one of the good things about MS is it was set-up from the ground up as open architecture and code. This has allowed people to develop their own applications over time and improve them. Unless XFI developed / sells it, or they license their code (not very likely) it won't happen.

[mlowry1260]

Mark (and anyone else I didnt put to sleep yet) ....

You will also see a button called "VE Analyzer" between the tables. This is effectively an autotune feature for cruise VE tables. With a speed density system, you effectively set / tune your timing table no issue, you also set your AFR table based on what you "want", but you really need to fine tune the VE table to make it "right".

Either Tuner studio, or mega log viewer will take you AFR datalog, AFR table, and VE table and compare them. Effectively, it will tune the VE table to match your AFR table, but you can't live and die by it. It simpy is another tool to get you into the zone. Ypou can actually set the authority for the tuning so that it creeps up on it with small increments, or jumps right in :D

Lots of neat little tools in there to tune with. A guy that I'm working with on this has tuned just about every type of stand alone out there and swears tuner studio is better than any of the interfaces. We will see ....

Cool chit Bob,

It's lights years ahead of the tweecer/eek-tuner crap. I wish I had the option of open source software for the AEM box.

So you'll have a boost referenced tune so & can play with the boost at will?

[Martin0660]

It's lights years ahead of the tweecer/eek-tuner crap. ?

The EEC stuff has made a HUGE leap with Moates Quarterhorse and Binary Editor. I own a license for BE, but this started to come down to a financial decission ... Spend another $250.00 for QH, and still have ot deal with the way Ford does load scaling and all the OEM interactions, or just move along ... I can more or less recover my cost for this selling off the TwEECer, Innovate SSI-4, PMAS slot sensor, and all of that.

The dalalogging you can now get with QH is amazing as well. Every parameter in the EEC is now available as long as the definition file is "good".

Clint kind of pissed me off with how he does his license for Binary Editor (and EEC analyzer). You pay $80.00 for a license, but it is locked to a computer. If that computer dies (mine did), then you must pay another $40.00 to license a new machine. I now have that on my new tuning computer, but it's worthless outsdie of that PC.

As i said, it was time for me to move away from the EEC stuff.


I wish I had the option of open source software for the AEM box.

That's a double edged sword with the MS stuff. It's really powerfull that there are number of really good tuners / minds working on code enhanceements, and ways to make all kinds of things work. The downside is there isnt a "800" number to call for support.


So you'll have a boost referenced tune so & can play with the boost at will?

Basically yes. This is a true speed sensity system. All of the tables are based off of pressure (KpA) versus RPM so as long as the table is scaled to your maximum, it's just a matter of tuning the cells where you are operating. My tables are scaled to 7K rpm and 30 psi boost. If running only 25 psi, the top cells just arent used until they are needed.

[Martin0660]

FINALLY, enough of a break in the weather to do something :D

This is where the new gate will be located, pretty tight fit in there, should of went with the big one :D

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/42413/2463537540066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2463537540066453426nQjrAL)

Bare passenger side ...

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/44379/2575358260066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2575358260066453426XjoaCu)

Not much, but it's finally started. Now I need to make an appointment with the welder :D

[Martin0660]

A little more completed tonight ...

Header modified for 46mm external gate along with dump tube ...

http://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/29953/2913508810066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2913508810066453426NWWGYw)
http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/17767/2238525540066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2238525540066453426TRuJTW)

New turbo outlet, blocks off internal gate port and adapts to my existing downpipe with 3"V" band ...

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/43059/2339006890066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2339006890066453426lBcOjb)

Need to test fit everything then re-wrap the header. The wrap that was on there was put on last spring and coated with the black spray they say to use. It still came off mostly as dust.

[yeahloh95]

wow looks good your making me want to get the svo out of storage

[map351]

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/42663/2038576890038663969S600x600Q85.jpg

[Martin0660]

Thanks Buddy! ;) You have already been drafted :D

At least you could of used the one with the Pinto in the back ground ...

http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/45570/2942924890066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2942924890066453426RzQNHG)

[1Badbird]

Is that your home shop Bob? If it is you got one hell of a garage there!!!

[Martin0660]

Is that your home shop Bob?

Hell no, that is Mike's (Map351) shop. He just took pictures while it looked like I was doing something. Mainly I watched while he did all the work welding :D

Mike told me last night I have it made :D (and he is right) Made him work on my junk for the Capri all night, while my Pinto is hogging up valuable shop floor space :D

[somethingclever]

Hell no, that is Mike's (Map351) shop. He just took pictures while it looked like I was doing something. Mainly I watched while he did all the work welding :D

Mike told me last night I have it made :D (and he is right) Made him work on my junk for the Capri all night, while my Pinto is hogging up valuable shop floor space :D


Everybody needs friends like that!!!!!!!!



Looking good Bob! :goodidea:

[1Badbird]

Everybody needs friends like that!!!!!!!!



Looking good Bob! :goodidea:


That's what I was going to say.

[map351]

At least you could of used the one with the Pinto in the back ground ...

http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/45570/2942924890066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2942924890066453426RzQNHG)

I like the Cobra lurking in the background. :yes:

Did you bolt the header on?

[Martin0660]

I like the Cobra lurking in the background

If I didn't know your cobra was there, I wouldn't even notice :D Pinto > Cobra


Did you bolt the header on?

I water boarded the wrap and put it on last night. set it by the wood stove to dry. Need to coat it tonight, then on the car over the weekend

[map351]

If I didn't know your cobra was there, I wouldn't even notice :D Pinto > Cobra

It's a Cobra shelf..:)

Mike

[Martin0660]

Header is wrapped and coated ...

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/39165/2601053010066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2601053010066453426cQvUsd)
http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/43588/2937422580066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2937422580066453426iihewC)

hopefully this biggeer hole will take care of my boost control issues. If nothing, it looks impressive ...

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/44224/2530793030066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2530793030066453426qGLIKm)

Also, you might notice the DEI coating for the wrap. It's pretty amazing stuff. I did this last year, not sure how much it helped the wrap as it came off as dust, but ... It actually stayed on the header and held up rather nicely. With my EGT's it's doing pretty good to stay on there.

[Martin0660]

Another piece arrived today. These are finally back in stock ;)

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/7021/2693653860066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2693653860066453426ToshjQ)

Swarr Bar from American Muscle. Man are those guys fast, they notified me they are back in stock, I ordered at 5:00 yesterday, it arrived today :D

[Martin0660]

Last part of the new EMS :D Siemens Mototron 80# injectors. These are a EV6 injectors with EV1 connectors. These are supposed to be fast and should idle fine, also very friendly with high fuel pressures.

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/32891/2787933590066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2787933590066453426CIMIwU)
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/41023/2528241550066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2528241550066453426ILZARA)

[lib88stang]

Whats the swarr bar run through American Muscle?

[Martin0660]

Whats the swarr bar run through American Muscle?

Something funny there Shaun ... I went to their site to get you a direct link, and noticed they jacked up the price over the last few days. I ordered mine 1/21/10 for $159.99 with free shipping, but they charged 6% tax so it was $169.59 to my door.

I now see it on their site for $189.99 (I would assume plus tax)

http://www.americanmuscle.com/swarr-bar-88-rear-86-04.html

Swarr is still $169.00 directly, although you would pay tax (in PA) plus ship.

http://www.swarrauto.com/custom_parts.html

[Sonic03snake]

Where are the rest of them?:sticktonge:
Last part of the new EMS :D Siemens Mototron 80# injectors. These are a EV6 injectors with EV1 connectors. These are supposed to be fast and should idle fine, also very friendly with high fuel pressures.

http://inlinethumb60.webshots.com/32891/2787933590066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2787933590066453426CIMIwU)
http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/41023/2528241550066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2528241550066453426ILZARA)

[Martin0660]

Where are the rest of them?:sticktonge:

LOL ... I really don't know what you guys do with all those extra fuel injectors, plug wires, plugs ... I can barely keep on top of my junk with half the parts :sticktonge:

[Martin0660]

Warm enough tonight to get some things done ... header is back on the car and the hot side is buttoned up ...

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/5747/2873812140066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2873812140066453426aIuhIQ)
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/13509/2391357850066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2391357850066453426SYUboG)

[Martin0660]

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/22069/2819580030066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2819580030066453426gUacVb)

Need to move on to the timing drive upgrades next.

[lib88stang]

http://inlinethumb54.webshots.com/22069/2819580030066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2819580030066453426gUacVb)

Need to move on to the timing drive upgrades next.

wheres the meter?

[Martin0660]

wheres the meter?

LOL, new location ... trash can :D

The Microsquirt I'm using is true speed density so it just uses a MAP sensor to calculate flow. No air meter at all on this combo :D

[map351]

Warm enough tonight to get some things done ... header is back on the car and the hot side is buttoned up ...

http://inlinethumb52.webshots.com/5747/2873812140066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2873812140066453426aIuhIQ)
http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/13509/2391357850066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2391357850066453426SYUboG)

Looks close to the down pipe!

[Martin0660]

Looks close to the down pipe!

It's sort of an illusion in the pictures, there is room, enough ot stick my hand in there anyway. It needed to be a little tight to fit everything in there and drop the dump tube between the starter and the K-member. The dump tube is REALLY close to the SVO engine shock on that side, they are likely going to have to go ;)

[yeahloh95]

looks good so you are dumping the waster gate not tieing it back into down pipe?

[Martin0660]

looks good so you are dumping the waster gate not tieing it back into down pipe?

Yep, just a dump right now :D If it gets too loud / annoying, I will add one of those little Supertrapp disc only mufflers to it :D

[ModularMike]

Haha just dump it. My buddy just bought a Tial 44mm for his STi with a screamer/dump pipe. Lookin good Bob.

[Martin0660]

Haha just dump it.

We will see. On the street, I very rarely get to anything like full boost so it should be okay (drive like an old man). The ony question will be if I can hear the engine (knock) over the pipe at the track where it will be open from launch :D

[yeahloh95]

the guys from hybrid told me that an open dump makes alot more power then plumbed back in

[map351]

looks good so you are dumping the waster gate not tieing it back into down pipe?

Bob wants a Fart pipe.. :rofl:

[Martin0660]

the guys from hybrid told me that an open dump makes alot more power then plumbed back in

For sure ... You might take 30% of the exhaust flow out the gate at full boost. Getting that out of the downpipe free's up that flow. The other REAL big benefit is how exhaust flows off the turbine. Sort of hard to "type", but the gas comes off the turbine wheel in a solid, spiral flow path. Interupting that with the gate return hurts flow (BTW - That's why chambered mufflers done work on a turbo car, there are no pulses)


Bob wants a Fart pipe.. :rofl:

Already have a big exhaust tip, wing, etc .... might as well go big or go home :D

[gtboost02]

all you need now is a car show doll to lean against the fender.it looks like you'll be causing BIGGER trouble this year.lookin good bob:thumbsup: chuck

[somethingclever]

(drive like an old man).D


That probably wouldn't work for me........I'm still young.


12 flat all day!

[Martin0660]

all you need now is a car show doll to lean against the fender.it looks like you'll be causing BIGGER trouble this year.lookin good bob:thumbsup: chuck

LOL, Nah, you got the dolls covered, I'm looking for a new mop :D

You know me, go big ... or break it ;)

BTW Chuck - Take a good look at all those rear end parts and get to know them before we all spend a weekend day together ;)


I'm still young.

I thought we established that some time ago :D The good news is, once you get "old" you are old. You are only young once, and times ticking ... tick tock tick tock :hyper:


12 flat all day!

Let's hope... I might have a little more in the bag ;)

[Martin0660]

I've wanted one of these valve covers for a while ... just bumped into one cheap ;) need to decide if I want to paint it red (wrinkle paint) with polished raised sections, or black ...

http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/46501/2102678800066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2102678800066453426EdmDVG)
http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/42759/2307955820066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2307955820066453426eFNFfh)

Also got the serpentine pullies painted up ...

http://inlinethumb24.webshots.com/44567/2484436140066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2484436140066453426SAiUeq)

[Martin0660]

Aslo got another victim ... errrrr spare transmission. This one still needs a trip to see Rob to be gone through ;)

http://inlinethumb08.webshots.com/46535/2660775710066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2660775710066453426ogHFxJ)

[wick]

There it is. Been waiting for that one. Now we just need Frank to come back to reality and drop it off. HAHAHA

[yeahloh95]

bob if you need a rebuild kit for that t5 let me know i have a brand new one in the box

[Martin0660]

Now we just need Frank to come back to reality and drop it off.

Clark has already established (in another thread) that he has turned pro off road on us. We might need plan "B"


bob if you need a rebuild kit for that t5 let me know i have a brand new one in the box

I "think" this one will just need syncro's but ... what P/N kit is that? (this is a 3.97 1st gear tranny)

[wick]

Clark has already established (in another thread) that he has turned pro off road on us. We might need plan "B"



HAHAHAHAH In that case, Clark has something I want as well. We may be able to work something out here.

[Martin0660]

Clark has something I want

I want NOTHING to do with that deal ;) lol,

I'm in no rush as it's a spare, but whatever we can work out .... Hey Clark, since Frankie abandoned us all to turn Pro-Offroad ... wanna go for a ride someday?

[wick]

I want NOTHING to do with that deal ;) lol,

I'm in no rush as it's a spare, but whatever we can work out .... Hey Clark, since Frankie abandoned us all to turn Pro-Offroad ... wanna go for a ride someday?


HAHAHHA You kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gtboost02]

bob, the sooner the better on your rear.dave and i are goin to be thrashin on our cars.we have'nt touched them.we'll make time for you for sure.try to give me a yell 2 weeks before your ready.we've both been working every weekend and will be till racing starts.season starts 3 weeks from sat. chuck

[Martin0660]

I know ... There is three feet of snow in front of the garage door now so it isn't coming out any time soon. I will NOT be ready for the opener with the new fuel injection system, so this could even wait until after you all get going. I'll give you fair warning ;)

If you guys need help, just yell. I'm in for the run down south ;)

[Martin0660]

The more I dig, the worse this mess gets. Should of titled this thread building a new Capri this winter instead of winter upgrades. I've had some of this around a while, but just dug everything out to make sure I have all the parts, clean paint, etc ...

This car always has been a mutt. The front k-member and a-arms and such are all Mustang SVO. These are heavy forged control arms with a different geometry built into the k-member plus a much wider track.

Got a set of normal 87/93 A-arms plus a set of Steeda forward offset bushings. Those will fix the geometry from the k-member. Also 88 TC Spindles, coil over kit, caster / camber plates, stainless caliper bushings, new ball joints, etc. I am planning to keep my Koni (not SVO) front struts, they seem to work pretty well.

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/43035/2388029120066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2388029120066453426yVQSks)

End result will knock a little weight off the nose, get rid of the SVO arms and the ball joint issue, but more important pull the wheels in 1 1/4" a side so I can drop the front end. Not as nice as tubular stuff, but I'm not sold on the coil over and want the option of going back to my Eibach launch springs if I want.

[Martin0660]

Got some wrenching done over the last few days. New t'stat, changed all the pullies, timing belt, tensioner, installed Croke's timing pointer ...

http://inlinethumb04.webshots.com/22275/2126386760066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2126386760066453426alERmA)

http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/44984/2446840840066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2446840840066453426stDNyj)

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/46457/2234798350066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2234798350066453426zAEoqi)

Kind of odd to have two adjustable pullies and to be naked up front ...

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/45257/2963880440066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2963880440066453426cxrfnq)

[Martin0660]

Also got the valve cover installed and a few other little things buttoned up ...

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/44613/2555520620066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2555520620066453426zuZEmY)

I want to sort out a new upper alternator mount, still pondering how i want that to work ;)

[97LaserRed]

wow that looks awesome!!! Im excited to see this car in spring!! that turbo is huge!!!!

[wick]

The more I dig, the worse this mess gets. Should of titled this thread building a new Capri this winter instead of winter upgrades. I've had some of this around a while, but just dug everything out to make sure I have all the parts, clean paint, etc ..

This is kinda how I fell about mine. I really dont know how a simple heater core morfed into the crazyness I have endured in the last couple months...

[Martin0660]

wow that looks awesome!!! Im excited to see this car in spring!! that turbo is huge!!!!

It's all perspective on the turbo size. It is a TO4E50 compressor, so it's not exactly small, but looks huge next to the 'lil motor :D

I'm not much on show and shine, but am trying to clean things up a bit ;)


This is kinda how I fell about mine. I really dont know how a simple heater core morfed into the crazyness I have endured in the last couple months...

It just evolves, grows and mutates. I have 10 other things I want to do now, just not going to happen.

In the pics, you can see I took off the turbine heat shield. I used that because of the internal gate set-up, but now have one of these on route ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-PTP-Turbo-Blanket-Turbo-Heat-Shield-Red_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439c07448aQQitemZ29 0380530826QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories

Seems I'm going through a red phase

[97LaserRed]

o it looks really clean!! I like it. your right with the small motor it makes it look soooo much bigger. Ive always liked your car and ever time i see more pics it get even better!!!

[wick]

It just evolves, grows and mutates. I have 10 other things I want to do now, just not going to happen.

In the pics, you can see I took off the turbine heat shield. I used that because of the internal gate set-up, but now have one of these on route ...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4-PTP-Turbo-Blanket-Turbo-Heat-Shield-Red_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem439c07448aQQitemZ29 0380530826QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories

Seems I'm going through a red phase

HAHAH Yeah. I only really have 2 more things to do here. Most importantly is my tune which I am shooting for next Friday. Second is my Eaton carrier. While doing that I am throwing on my Ford Racing cover/girdle. Then wash the shit out of this thing. My wife keeps writing on my windshield. HAHAHAH

[AdamantiumSilvr]

Looks really good!! Can't wait to check it out and see it runnin at the strip!

[yeahloh95]

that looks great , so red is faster huh?

[turbo83coupe]

that looks great , so red is faster huh?

Yeah!! IDK about all that!! my whole car is red and it dont do shit for it!! :rotflol::rotflol::rofl::rotflol::rotflol:

Looks good Bob :thmbsup:

[Martin0660]

so red is faster huh?

That's the theory I'm working with now ;) Proof will come in the spring :D


my whole car is red

Yes, but under hood you make everything BLACK. Body color is irrelevant, it's all about engine trim in this new reality i'm working on ;) Give me a yell if you are around tonight :goodidea:

[Martin0660]

Got a little more done tonight. Finished the mock up of the new alternator bracket. Serpentine belt installed, just need to take it back appart to clean it up, throw some rattle can paint on it ;)

http://inlinethumb30.webshots.com/30173/2124182750066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2124182750066453426xHaIVh)

[Martin0660]

Also the turbo beanie came today so it's installed. Really nice piece IMO ...

http://inlinethumb19.webshots.com/6034/2778603830066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2778603830066453426rLFVtd)

http://inlinethumb36.webshots.com/44387/2648569480066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2648569480066453426wCLCIa)

[wick]

Pretty snazzy Robert!!

[biminiLX]

Nice, and I see a the red plan ;)
Did you run a blanket before Bob? I noticed a big difference in underhood heat with mine.
-J

[Martin0660]

Did you run a blanket before

No, I have had my header and downpipe wrapped, but could only run a shield with the internal gate actuator. Now that I installed the external gate, that space is free again :D

[trbofox]

Looking good. Where did you get your wrap?

[Martin0660]

Looking good. Where did you get your wrap?

Bought off eBay from these guys ...

http://stores.ebay.com/Devl-Tuning

With the shipment, came a card with their website ....

http://www.thermalzero.com/

Along with a 20% off code and free ship over $100.00. Basically same price as off eBay, but maybe less hassel. They also seem to have good prices on wrap and snap straps. They ship fast off of Ebay for sure. Seems like they might be okay to work with on quantity ;)

[lib88stang]

Looks real good

[Martin0660]

Here is a real exciting part (if you are me ;) ) ... NOS EEC connector

http://inlinethumb45.webshots.com/46188/2143314910066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2143314910066453426kfjNLn)
http://inlinethumb17.webshots.com/43600/2333165310066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/2333165310066453426mNMAsn)

[wick]

May I ask what you are going to do with the connector? Doing your own computer or just relocating it for a piggyback?

[Martin0660]

May I ask what you are going to do with the connector?

I'm going to attach that connector to this ...

http://inlinethumb49.webshots.com/44848/2815097990066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2815097990066453426oiqCYU)

I will have a seperate harness for the MAP and some other remote functions, but will get the TPS, ECT, ACT, Injectors, and ignition via the stock harness and the EEC plug. This way, I could always swap back to an EEC if needed.

[biminiLX]

I'm glad you know you're way around electronics Bob, that looks like a fun project :goodidea:
Great idea to have the capability to run a stock ECU if needed. :thumbsup:


Looking good. Where did you get your wrap?
I got my black one from VRS racing. If you say you're a turbomustangs.com member you get a good discount.
-J

[wick]

I'm glad you know you're way around electronics Bob, that looks like a fun project :goodidea:

-J


Yes, I am also glad. After our conversation, which got ended early due to my son being sick and my battery dying, he made me feel a million times better. Thanks Bob, talk to ya tomorrow.:thmbsup:

[Martin0660]

I'm glad you know you're way around electronics

Not sure I know my way, somehow I can usually find my way ...


Yes, I am also glad.

No problem Rob :goodidea:

[Martin0660]

Next little project is to install a breather catch can.

I had been running my crank case breather with an oil seperator and an open element, but was getting oil vapor on the intake side. I also had the valve cover breather back to the turbo inlet, but want to run the filter right on the turbo now so I need a place for that as well.

This is a Jaz dual inlet breather tank ...

http://inlinethumb64.webshots.com/9343/2759592450066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2759592450066453426kvvDmi)
http://inlinethumb41.webshots.com/45736/2567906640066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2567906640066453426ODuxKP)

[Martin0660]

More progress in the right direction :D Breather catch can installed ...

http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/45423/2854634430066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2854634430066453426jbtdeg)

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/47185/2230651030066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2230651030066453426qNUrkb)

Running sperators on bothe the Crankcase and the Valve cover then on to the breather tank. This should keep the mess to a miniumum...

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/24826/2681521490066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2681521490066453426GypHTc)

[Martin0660]

Also buttoned up the alternator bracket and stuff after paint ...

http://inlinethumb62.webshots.com/20989/2524523320066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2524523320066453426sATHMR)


Also changed the raditor out and a few misc things. Basically need to change oil / filter and add coolant and it would be ready to start up again on the old EMS :D

[mlowry1260]

Bob,

are there any rules of thumb about placement of a wastegate?

[Martin0660]

are there any rules of thumb about placement of a wastegate?

Not hard and fast, but there are preferences ;) Ideally as close to the turbine and as in line with the flow path as possible. Of course that isn't always possible because of packaging, and it will affect response and boost control.

If you get down to it, all the WG is doing is causing a controlled leak to loose some of the exhaust energy. The best backpressure is at the turbine wheel, so the closer the better there, and of course it is flow, so as in line as possible is better.

For example, Joe Laramee drills a hole in the turbine housing and puts his right into the scroll, right in line with the flow. He has excellent boost control, but you are dealing with cast steel. I went back and forth myself about doing something like that, but ultimately want to be able to change turbos without having to keep modifying them. My placement is surely not ideal, and we will see how good or bad it is based on data logs in the near future ;)

[Martin0660]

I posted these last night, but they where apparently lost with the "glitch".

Got the Swarr brace installed. Really straightforward install. No real issues ...

http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/43994/2164943350066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2164943350066453426ABsphD)

Side where the brace clamps the tube ...

http://inlinethumb11.webshots.com/21450/2334852870066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2334852870066453426mBpAzR)

Pretty well tied together around the chunk between the Swarr brace and the baseline upper set up ...

http://inlinethumb10.webshots.com/46281/2404566310066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2404566310066453426haZJzU)

I can't get very good pictures of this in my garage. When we do the rest of the rear end upgrades it will be on a lift and I will get better shots with the rear hanging.

[Martin0660]

Another part that likely only excites me ;) Going old school with the plug wire dividers :D

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/44218/2578777740066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2578777740066453426GhOPhv)
http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/44534/2138906050066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2138906050066453426ruRDdk)

[Martin0660]

Buttoned up a few loose ends tonight, installed wire dividers, tubing to wastegate, topped off coolant, etc ...

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/46084/2639126510066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2639126510066453426ezjRig)
http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/45614/2319607860066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2319607860066453426auiKdl)

[Martin0660]

So what the heck ... let's fire it up!

2010 1st start-up - Car Videos on StreetFire

There is an exhaust leak at the first V-band, small but noisy... Too freaking hot to mess with tonight ;)

Also, this is still on the EEC-IV. I want to get a few things sorted before i take on the new EMS issues.

[Martin0660]

While we are at it, an exhaust clip ...

Yep, still got that tractor sound :D She thinks my tractors sexy ...

2.3 Exhaust Clip - Car Videos on StreetFire

Maybe too many exhaust fumes tonight ;)

[White5.0]

lookin good. what does the swarr brace do for the rear? i dont think ive ever seen that before..

[turbo83coupe]

Another part that likely only excites me ;) Going old school with the plug wire dividers :D

http://inlinethumb59.webshots.com/44218/2578777740066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2578777740066453426GhOPhv)
http://inlinethumb55.webshots.com/44534/2138906050066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2138906050066453426ruRDdk)


thats right!! they only excite you!! dont look on my car if they come up missing!! hahahaha Its lookin good :thmbsup:

[Martin0660]

lookin good. what does the swarr brace do for the rear? i dont think ive ever seen that before..

Ties the axles tubes to the center section like a truss to prevent tube deflection. It's said that the tubes will camber on a hard launch.


dont look on my car if they come up missing!!

Your the first one I'm looking for ... notice they are black ;)

[Martin0660]

No pics but lots of progress :D Fixed up that little exhaust leak at the v-band and a little coolant drip I had and a few little details. Everything under the hood is D O N E ! :jump:

Now into some wiring ;)

[wick]

Saweet Bob.

[1Badbird]

Nice! I bet you're happy to be getting it done.

[Martin0660]

Nice! I bet you're happy to be getting it done.

Progress is good, but i'm actually way behind. The new EMS could take some time ...

[Martin0660]

Not getting a lot done this weekend dealing with family stuff, but a few more bits showed up ...

Last year I tried a Stewart Warner boost gauge because it was the only one I could get that went to 30 and still had a vacuum scale. I really like their gauges, especially that the lighting comes through the numbers. Going to change out the voltmeter I have in the car for one of theirs ...

http://inlinethumb33.webshots.com/13856/2068143640066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2068143640066453426rniijj)

I'm still not sure what i'm going to do with these :D I saw them and liked them, just not sure where they might go (if anywhere). These are formed aluminum (in the pics they still have a plastic overlay on them). Thinking of putting them on the side of the cowl hood, but not sure ...

http://inlinethumb48.webshots.com/44847/2781363930066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2781363930066453426AMgHqB)

[cwh19]

I think they would look awesome on the side of a cowl

[Martin0660]

I think they would look awesome on the side of a cowl

On the drivers side ... YES! ... on the passenger side, not so much ... see my concern? I tend to overthink things ;)

[Martin0660]

Hasen't been a lot to post pictures of lately. I've been neck deep in wiring getting everything set up for the new EMS system. I finally have all the wires / cables to the right place, cleaned up some old wiring I didn't like, etc... Going to finish landing the new wires to a terminal block tomorrow then it's ready to hook up the new EMS.

I did manage to fix a couple little things in the console. When I put the AMS boost controller in, I threw a volt meter I had around in there ... I got the new Stewart Warner one installed and cleaned up even more wiring back there. Also, for some reason ,the console in my car was always crooked in the front. I got it more straight, still not perfect, but not near as anoying as it was.

http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/26198/2780215670066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2780215670066453426TdnSEQ)

[Martin0660]

Even more parts that excite me :D We can FINALLY get re-pop sun visor rods for pre 85 cars ... Now, when I get in the gas, I wont have to duck to avoid getting hit with the visor ;)

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/44145/2129054170066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2129054170066453426AOOPKy)
http://inlinethumb57.webshots.com/46968/2007423270066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2007423270066453426mqnGnU)

[Martin0660]

Also finished up the wiring tonight ... and amazing enough, it started and everything works

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/47289/2942882380066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2942882380066453426VxpPwv)

http://inlinethumb23.webshots.com/44374/2090167750066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2090167750066453426nFKsbG)

http://inlinethumb47.webshots.com/40366/2812621560066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2812621560066453426oxogfN)

[Martin0660]

And now with no exhaust leaks ...

Running 2.3 - Car Videos on StreetFire

2.3 Turbo Exhaust Clip, Bo-Port 2.1 cam - Car Videos on StreetFire

[somethingclever]

12" of vacuum at 1000rpm....you stud!

[yeahloh95]

sounds good bob i want the svo to idle like that

[Martin0660]

12" of vacuum at 1000rpm....you stud!

:biglaugh: Good job combining pictures :D The brakes still work ... lol


sounds good bob i want the svo to idle like that

Let me know when you are ready, I have an "in" with the cam grinder ... Heck, we have another grind on deck that I'm REALLY excited to try, maybe this one will be available ;)

[yeahloh95]

sounds great i am definitly upgrading the valvetrain this year, i have to catch frank lol

[Martin0660]

i have to catch frank lol

I know what he has and how to beat it ...

Step one - Put it on the mat and sidestep the clutch :D

Step two - See step one

LOL - let me know when you are ready to try something and we can get it done ... use the boost ;)

[wick]

That idle is awesome. It sounds like your BOV is fluttering.

[yeahloh95]

I know what he has and how to beat it ...

Step one - Put it on the mat and sidestep the clutch :D

Step two - See step one

LOL - let me know when you are ready to try something and we can get it done ... use the boost ;)

sounds great bob , i want to get it running the way it should :awsome:

[Martin0660]

It sounds like your BOV is fluttering.

If by fluttering, you mean working exactly as a BOV is intended to work, then yes, it's fluttering ;) The spring and shims are exactly righ in my set-up. On a throttle wack like in the video, it just lets back surge out, but you don't want to dump the system.


i want to get it running the way it should

That we can do ;)

[map351]

Sounds like my 2N..

[Martin0660]

Sounds like my 2N..

That is exactly the sound I was looking for :D It aint never going to rumble, let 'em know they got beat by a 4 banger ;)

[wick]

If by fluttering, you mean working exactly as a BOV is intended to work, then yes, it's fluttering ;) The spring and shims are exactly righ in my set-up. On a throttle wack like in the video, it just lets back surge out, but you don't want to dump the system.



That we can do ;)


Hmmm. I see.

[Martin0660]

Well .. Car is on the ground, starts, idles, moves (back and forth 2 feet ;) ) and does most things a car is supposed to do. It needs washed badly, going to try and sneak a wash and wax in this week. We are set-up to do the internals of the rear end Friday night (new gears, Detroit locker, axles, etc) ... Should be ready to drive Saturday morning :D :D :D

[AdamantiumSilvr]

Just in time for opening day @ PRP!!

[yeahloh95]

and this is on the new computer?

[Martin0660]

Just in time for opening day @ PRP!!

In time yes ... but I will only be there as a spectator for the opener.


and this is on the new computer?

No, I need to shake down all these other changes before I swap to the new EMS. I don't want to be dealing with boost control and other things while trying to tune that. I need a couple good days street driving, maybe a TnT, then the Ford computer goes away :D

[jaa55]

That thing does sound like a tractor when it idles but its got a wicked sound when you rev it!

[Martin0660]

That thing does sound like a tractor when it idles

She thinks my tractor's sexy :laughing1: Sounding good is not one of the best known traits of the 2.3 ;)

[Martin0660]

It is also time to replace my belts. This two year interval thing is a little old. Decided to try the G-Force Pro series this time. Real nice belts so far ...

http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/45570/2083000180066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2083000180066453426rdPJoC)

By the way, the belts came from Summit today and are date stamped May 2010.

Sticking with the G-Force theme got one of their pro helmets ... and I decided to try a full face helmet. Also got a mirror smoke visor for it so I don't have to wear my sunglasses ...

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/44913/2897609130066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2897609130066453426QzOjTB)

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/35193/2069828510066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2069828510066453426ijurXp)

Eh, it's only money so I bought a new helmet bag for it all too ...

http://inlinethumb32.webshots.com/2207/2083799150066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2083799150066453426hriPjg)

Off to install the belts tonight ... getting REALLY close.

[Martin0660]

And the belts are installed :D

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/3629/2421362150066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2421362150066453426dsjoDt)

http://inlinethumb46.webshots.com/37549/2638406770066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2638406770066453426RMPgJS)

[THE BIG KOALA]

is there alot of adjustment in those?

[Martin0660]

is there alot of adjustment in those?

Sure ... There is a lot of extra belt, then you adjust it to fit you, then you have the adjusters after it's all fastened up.

[biminiLX]

Lookin good Bob, but I gotta say camlocks FTW ;)
-J

[trbofox]

Glad to see you are getting close to being able to run, bet your anxious to try the new mods, with better luck this year.:goodidea:

[Martin0660]

I gotta say camlocks FTW

Two issues with them in my mind ... duble the price for something you have to replace every two years, plus, this was likely a dirt track thing, but back in those days I saw several sets locked up from dirt getting in them.


Gbet your anxious to try the new mods

For sure!

[yeahloh95]

next time try simpson platnum they replace for free after 2 years or recert them i think

[Martin0660]

they replace for free after 2 years or recert them

It's all a freaking scam Troy ...

G-Force belts are like $60.00, cam locks are $120.00 ... Recert you pay shipping, and they replace webbing for $50.00 + return shipping.... Sounds like a wash with new blets ... Even worse, you see that the same service for cam locks is $100.00 ... the damn webbing is the same, and they are giving you your hardware back (why you paid double to start) ...

Same with the Simpson deal, year, you get a re-cert, but you pay twice the price. Pay me now, pay me later, just pay me every two years.

Believe me, I believe in safety equipment. I have more in my car than is needed, and will continue to do so. This whole belt thing is just frustrating.

Even dampers and flexplates / flywheels. Those are going to be next to be inspected in detail as the manufacturers will push for it too. I would be a very large percentage of the cars racing EVERY week are out of cert on that stuff.

[yeahloh95]

I have heard that they have gien guys new belts yes they cost more but a free new set makes them the same price , the whole belts recert thing has pist me off for years too they do not go bad after 2 years of use if so they were just to begin with

[Martin0660]

In the sun for 2010 :pepper::pepper::pepper:

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/44357/2319589650066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2319589650066453426sPgPAe)

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/45617/2775489950066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2775489950066453426zITADr)

Took it for a ride ... no drips, smoke, leaks, etc ....

Had the NRL boost controller "off", boost went right to the spring pressure at 10 psi :D

Turned on stage 1 (+5) and it went right to 15 psi :D :D

Turned on stage 2 (+10) and it went right to 20 psi :D :D :D

We have boost control :woot1: Now to crank both stages up ;)

The dump pipe is by no means obnoxiuos. The first time it opened I was like .. .ehhh... at the higher boost levels it starts to scream.

Rear end parts go in tomorrow night!

[1Badbird]

Look good Bob! Looks real good! I'm glad to see it's all working for you, especially after all the work you've put into it.

[biminiLX]

Awesome Bob, can't wait to you start playing with the AMS. I really like the ramp feature and I'm sure it'll help you too!
Lookin' good man!
-J

[THE BIG KOALA]

looks real good bob

[Martin0660]

Thanks Guys!

J- I now have the ramp feature wired in. I'm really not sure it will help me ... we will see. I'm just thrilled to apparently have boost control :D Of course i've been fooled before ;)

[sutyak]

Looks great Bob! I can't wait to see some track times! :)

[somethingclever]

I forsee you dialing it back to 12.0's. ;)

[Martin0660]

Thanks Mark!

Nah John, I've been driving it over the last few days and it feels like a mid 12 car ;)

Also bumped up both boost setting, now have 21 psi on on Stage 1 and 25 psi on Stage 2. Both setting still control. Now to get some injector in the thing at let this turbo eat.

Good new is, it's 1:30, I smell of rear end grease, but the rear end upgrades are DONE! I can not thank Dave and Chuck enough for working all night like this to get my stuff together. The thing came together really nice.

The car will be at the track tomorrow but only as a spectator.

[yeahloh95]

thats great i'll see you there

[Martin0660]

thats great i'll see you there

Good to see you Troy, and everyone else.

Been driving the car and am real happy with everything so far. Like an idiot, I didn't take any pictures of the rear stuff in progess or on the lift. It's a shame you can't see anything unless you lay on the ground :D

http://inlinethumb35.webshots.com/45922/2889461150066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2889461150066453426eZwiYc)

[Martin0660]

http://inlinethumb28.webshots.com/43035/2388029120066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2388029120066453426yVQSks)

Going to start the coil over install tomorrow night ... Someone forgot to get new bolts for the a-arms but they are on the way ;)

[yeahloh95]

the bolts are 5/8 x4 inches long if i remember correctly ,they have them at tractor supply

[Martin0660]

Good to know Troy ... I needed some other things from Jeg's so I ordered them from there last night. Project should start tonight.

[wick]

Hey Bob, I have my new stock ones that I can't use because of the shoulder that's on them and the team Z arms. You can have them if you want. Tell dex come tonight and get them.

[Martin0660]

Well guys ... the front end is D O N E ...

Most of you probably have never seen the issues, but the geometry on a SVO K-Memeber is very different than a normal fox or SN95 car. There is more camber built in, the pick up points are different, and the a-arms are a lot longer. Through a real freakish combination of parts, I got it right where I want it with no more SVO parts up there.

One of the big issues is that using other FOX arms usually moves the wheel back in the wheel well. Part of that is good for me as it gets the tire off the air dam, but with just the arm it would of been too much. Got the Steeda offset bushings in 92 GT arms with TC spindles and it nailed the wheel location ...

http://inlinethumb03.webshots.com/28866/2399099040066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2399099040066453426RqzFqA)

Car is filthy right now, but i'm happy with that ....

Now with the coil ovwers and the wheels in 1 1/4" more I could finally drop the nose ...

http://inlinethumb50.webshots.com/32177/2366843610066453426S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2366843610066453426FeaJzb)

Down to getting the car on 4 corner scales again and setting pinion agle with all these changes and it's getting done! I will get better pictures once the car is clean and the sun is out :D

[map351]

Didn't you run out of winter parts yet? :poke:

You need my caster/camber gauges & plates?

[Martin0660]

Didn't you run out of winter parts yet?

I just did, the piles are gone ... beside the squirt ;)


You need my caster/camber gauges & plates?

I "think" we got it dialed in pretty good. Camber is good, toe is good, we put some caster in it ;) Drives great so far, we will see ...

[yeahloh95]

parts look great , it will really pull the wheels now