New 363/369 N/A Combo

[gmkillr]

In the works to do a Dart 363/369 (still unsure on exact size) that will be "zero" balanced.
I want to spin this thing up to 7500 rpm or so and still have the valvesprings live for a few seasons with a Custom TLSR Billet Cam and all matching hardware.

Heads will be my TFS TW TEA CNC 205 heads that will be springed for the TLSR Cam and use Titanium Retainers and a set of Probe Shaft Mount Rockers.

Looking to be in the 11.0 compression range to live with pump gas 93 octane. Im going to need some pistons that will get me in this ballpark that will also be power adder friendly as I will be using some nitrous down the road.

I will use the TFS Box Intake along with my Accufab 90mm t.b.
All 3.5" intake tubing, SCT 2800 - 90mm MAF with huge 12"powerfilter from Anderson FMS.

This combo should go low, low 10's in my 3200lb. raceweight car. Throw a shot of nitrous on it and ......mid 9's!

Hope to have this whole combo together and ready to go by late Febuary or early march at the latest.

Im very excited to do a nice high winding N/A combo and push it to some super quick times!

[Rio94gt]

Hells yeah buddy:highfive:

[yeahloh95]

thats cool and close to the combo i'll build when i'm tired of boost in the yellow car

[gmkillr]

thats cool and close to the combo i'll build when i'm tired of boost in the yellow car

In no way was I tired of the boost, just didnt want to make more power than I truely wanted or could afford to.....:)
Kinda similar to Paul's situation.....:rofl:

[yeahloh95]

i'm with ya i am just thinking of down the road when i am ready to take the car apart it would be time for a change

[mxracer652]

Rob, any reason to leave it at those cubes??
Hell, I'm at 362 with a mexi block. Grab one of those 3.6" cranks from Woodrow/Jaybird, and 4.185". 396" of shit yer pants!

[gmkillr]

Rob, any reason to leave it at those cubes??
Hell, I'm at 362 with a mexi block. Grab one of those 3.6" cranks from Woodrow/Jaybird, and 4.185". 396" of shit yer pants!

I'd like to stick to a shelf piston that is power adder friendly and can keep me in the 11.0 compression range.

3.600 stroke crank? Damn, maybe i'll ring Woody to get his insight on this.
Any thread links or other info on this?

[mxracer652]

I'd like to stick to a shelf piston that is power adder friendly and can keep me in the 11.0 compression range.

3.600 stroke crank? Damn, maybe i'll ring Woody to get his insight on this.
Any thread links or other info on this?
Grab one of the Eagle 3.47" stroke cranks and offset grind it down to a 2.0 Chebby rod journal, use a 2.0x5.4 scat shelf rod, and voila, you're up close to 3.6" crank, depending on how close it originally was to TIR, phase with crank key, etc. Mine wound up at 3.550" when it was all said & done.

Woody can definitely make it happen, ask him.

[gmkillr]

Grab one of the Eagle 3.47" stroke cranks and offset grind it down to a 2.0 Chebby rod journal, use a 2.0x5.4 scat shelf rod, and voila, you're up close to 3.6" crank, depending on how close it originally was to TIR, phase with crank key, etc. Mine wound up at 3.550" when it was all said & done.

Woody can definitely make it happen, ask him.

Mike, Thanks for sharing that info. Im going to call Woody tommorow and see what we can do with this option.:goodidea:

I'd love to get as many cubes as I can out of this little 8.2 Dart block.
Does the crank usually need a few slugs to balance when doing this?
Isnt 4.155 the last shelf piston?

[mxracer652]

I don't know about the pistons. I had a custom set, and with the Scat rods, I went internal with 2 slugs.

[somethingclever]

Sounds like a nice build!


Since you were so far along with the other deal (and it was looking to be a strong performer)....why are you jumping ship?

[cwh19]

Why are you not going to use the T-trim?

[Killercanary]

My Scat assembly took two slugs Rob to get it internally balanced.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k290/Killercanary/1995%20GT%20vert%20best%20pics/100_4381.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k290/Killercanary/1995%20GT%20vert%20best%20pics/100_4385.jpg

[mlowry1260]

Robert,

diamond has a nice t/w specific flat top piston I used made from 2318 aluminum off the shelf in large bore. Mahle has a large bore t/w f/t with the 1.5mm, 1.5mm, 3mm ring pack but, its made from 4032 aluminum. Probe makes one too, lots of options now for pistons. I'd use the smaller ring package for less parasitic drag.

With an 8.2" deck height block I'd stick with a 3.4" stroke & a 1.10 or 1.09 c/h piston.

Which block are you going to use?

[gmkillr]

Paul, Thanks for that info bud!



Mark, It is going to be a Dart SHP block

[gmkillr]

Update:


Im teaming up with www.FordStrokers.com to build an 8.2 deck 385 cubic inch shortblock for my 94 Cobra. Ive trusted Jim (Woody) in the past with another engine build and he delivered beyond expectations! With Woodys track record for building reliable horsepower I knew I couldnt go wrong teaming up with FordStrokers.....:king:

Im a participant in the Pinks All Out event held in Norwalk OH this year on August 28-28. Our goal is to have the engine done, tuned, and have the whole car sorted out for this event so I can hopefully go some rounds at this event and show everybody what a little small block 8.2 block N/A engine can do!:D

The combo will be as follows:

Dart SHP 8.2 short block via FordStrokers
Displacement isnt final yet but should be in the 385 cube range.
4.155 x 3.550 - 385

Trick Flow Twisted Wedge CNC 205 heads via TEA

C.I. Custom TLSR (Tight Lash Solid Roller) Billet Cam

Probe Shaft Mount Rockers

Trick Flow "R" Box intake

Accufab 90mm Throttle Body

SCT 2800 - 90mm MAF

Mac 1 3/4" Longtube Headers with 3" Collectors

Dr. Gas 3" Off-Road X-Pipe

Dynomax 3" Bullet Mufflers with 3" turndowns

G-Force T-5 Transmission

Pro-Motion Custom Clutch

I'll update the thread as more details and pics become available and as progress is made on Project "FordStrokers 385 Pinks All Out" is made. The goals for the engine/car is to run bottom 10's N/A and maybe bust into the 9's here and there. Possibly some Nitrous in the future.:D

Im very happy and thankful to be working with Woody @ FordStrokers on this project as he runs a top notch shop and puts out some big time Horsepower!

Pics of the car:

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/Picture664.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/Picture666.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/Picture672.jpg

[somethingclever]

Sounds like a nice build!


Since you were so far along with the other deal (and it was looking to be a strong performer)....why are you jumping ship?

?????

[gmkillr]

?????

The old 347 Blown combo was going to make much more H.P. than I expected initially and was getting out of hand. That combo could have easily made 800 rwhp and went bottom 9's which im not prepared to do.
Once your consistently in the 9's then you have to:

NHRA Competition License
Full Cage 10pt.
Windown Net
Fire Suit
Etc.....

I like to keep my car streetable and IMO it wouldnt be with all of the above listed. If I can go bottom 10's N/A consistently and maybe bust open the Nitrous bottle when I get a 9 sec. itch here and there then I can avoid the above posted negatives....:goodidea:

Trust me it was a VERY HARD DECISION to stop my old project in its tracks and rip it back apart and start all over again....:rolleyes:
Working closely with Jim (Woody) has eased the decision some as he's great to work with. I was close to having the car tuned.... but now im now removing the engine and getting it ready to crate up and ship to the new owner in Colorado!:highfive:

[billyNOTnice]

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh booooooooooooooooooooo.... on the street you don't need any of that stuff... damn youuuuuuuuuu i wanted to see that thing

[gmkillr]

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh booooooooooooooooooooo.... on the street you don't need any of that stuff... damn youuuuuuuuuu i wanted to see that thing

Yeah I know, me too. Trust me!:hyper:

[somethingclever]

Once your consistently in the 9's then you have to:

NHRA Competition License
Full Cage 10pt.
Windown Net
Fire Suit
Etc.....

I like to keep my car streetable and IMO it wouldnt be with all of the above listed. If I can go bottom 10's N/A consistently and maybe bust open the Nitrous bottle when I get a 9 sec. itch here and there then I can avoid the above posted negatives....:goodidea:



Sounds like all good reasons to me!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

While I can appreciate a trailered drag car, I'm much more impressed with a car that drives in, runs, and drives home!

[Rio94gt]

bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh booooooooooooooooooooo.... on the street you don't need any of that stuff... damn youuuuuuuuuu i wanted to see that thing


While Rob starts making some big numbers with this new N/A combo ill take over the boosted side once my supercharged 408W gets running.

[mlowry1260]

Robert,

what kind of power does Jay expect from this combo?

[gmkillr]

Robert,

what kind of power does Jay expect from this combo?

We havent talked any power #'s yet, only E.T.'s
I believe the combo will make 500+ to the tires on a dynojet N/A.:sticktonge:

[gmkillr]

It's looking like im going to need a 4.56-4.88 to get me in the right range for this build.

Waiting to hear back from a few different people on some possible tranny options. Im considering:
Liberty
Toploader
TKO 600

Here's what i'll be using for my intake:

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/edl-29285_w.jpg

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/edl-38493_w.jpg

Then my Accufab 90mm throttle body will be bolted onto that.....:hyper:

[scott5]

sounds like a nice setup you got going there rob

[yeahloh95]

what intake is that a torker II ?

[gmkillr]

sounds like a nice setup you got going there rob


Thanks man!:)




what intake is that a torker II ?

Edelbrock Super Victor EFI for 8.2 block

[yeahloh95]

i thought so but have never seen one they are good to like 8500 rpm

[gmkillr]

i thought so but have never seen one they are good to like 8500 rpm

There good to 9000 rpm on a 302 but on my 385 it will have to be professionally ported to make my 8000 rpm pulls. :goodidea:

[yeahloh95]

how much will it have to be opened up to match your cyl heads?

[gmkillr]

how much will it have to be opened up to match your cyl heads?

Not sure, I'll leave that up to TEA or Greg @ XSR

[biminiLX]

Thats going to be some serious RPM, you'll have to make sure you get the right trans/clutch. I'm sure you're going to need something face-plated or pro-shifted for 7500+ shift points.
Good luck man, hopefully I'll see it at Pinks (or before).
-J

[gmkillr]

Thats going to be some serious RPM, you'll have to make sure you get the right trans/clutch. I'm sure you're going to need something face-plated or pro-shifted for 7500+ shift points.
Good luck man, hopefully I'll see it at Pinks (or before).
-J

Yeah im in the works now with Wally @ Pro-Motion to do a face-plated TKO 600 or possibly a TKO 600 with Carbon Fiber synchro's to withstand the 8K shifts.

Thanks man and I plan to do lots of testing all the way up to Pinks.:thmbsup:

[somethingclever]

Has anyone here driven a face-plated tranny on the street?

I haven't, but heard it's a real bear and not very streetable.

[Balaska347]

I like the intake setup. I was going to do the same but it would only hurt my setup. It outta work great with the rpms you be turning.

[Pure Stock]

Has anyone here driven a face-plated tranny on the street?

I haven't, but heard it's a real bear and not very streetable.

Been on the street with one. Not anywhere near downtown commuting, but never the less upshifted and downshifted sometimes. Had a deep gear in the rear so 2nd gear starts got the call most of the time. 5th was still syncronized too. Kinda funny when going through the gears in traffic and a loud bang emanates from the trans. when selecting a gear. The glance from the unassuming could be interpreted as this dude must have just go this car and is murdering that trans. hahaha!

[gmkillr]

Well I joined up with Dave @ Team Z (www.Teamzmotorsports.net) for some much needed suspension and rear-end pieces. If Team Z can help some of the fastest stock suspension cars in the country go quick then im sure we'll have no issues getting my project to hook.

Also coming aboard to help with the Pinks All Out project car is Mike @ Wolfpack (www.Wolfpackspeed.com). His shop will be building a complete 8.8 and help with some of the welding and tuning of the suspension.

Im very grateful to have Team Z & Wolfpack in my corner for this project. Im very confident in both of their shops parts and abilities. Big thanks go out to Dave & Mike for coming aboard!

[349Stroker]

Has anyone here driven a face-plated tranny on the street?

I haven't, but heard it's a real bear and not very streetable.



had a G force dog ring trans and upshifted and downshifted just fine. The upshifting a low rpms was just fine too. Best tranny I ever owned.Love to hear all the whining from the straight cut gears and the banging as it went into gears. so much easier with this trans with the gas pedal buried in the floorboard

[Wolfpack Speed]

Looking forward to everything Robert, this is going to be fun:thmbsup:

[mlowry1260]

Well I joined up with Dave @ Team Z (www.Teamzmotorsports.net (http://www.Teamzmotorsports.net)) for some much needed suspension and rear-end pieces. If Team Z can help some of the fastest stock suspension cars in the country go quick then im sure we'll have no issues getting my project to hook.

Also coming aboard to help with the Pinks All Out project car is Mike @ Wolfpack (www.Wolfpackspeed.com (http://www.Wolfpackspeed.com)). His shop will be building a complete 8.8 and help with some of the welding and tuning of the suspension.

Im very grateful to have Team Z & Wolfpack in my corner for this project. Im very confident in both of their shops parts and abilities. Big thanks go out to Dave & Mike for coming aboard!

Those are two great shops to work with!

[yeahloh95]

i agree those guys will help you get the results your after

[bad88t-top]

Hi guys,
I have a Liberty Gear Proshifted TKO in my Mustang and I drive it on the street. It's jerkey, whiny, and you have to double clutch it to prevent it from grinding on the up and down shift but at the track it's the best investment I've made. I def wouldn't want it in a car that's street driven regularily, that's for sure. I'm actually thinking about looking for a trade for a stock TKO because with the 2 babys in the back seat it's not much fun driving to cruises or shows. Just my .02.

[gmkillr]

One of the pieces that will help this project along.....

Team Z Extreme Duty Anti-Roll Bar

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02029.jpg

[gmkillr]

Here's a small piece of the project

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/Int_3.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/Int_1.jpg

[scott5]

Looking good rob..

[Balaska347]

You are definitely gonna have to turn some rpm too make power with this combo. Looks good :thumbsup:

[nitrousjunkie]

sweet build cant wait for finished product and times

[gmkillr]

Looking good rob..
Thanks bud!



You are definitely gonna have to turn some rpm too make power with this combo. Looks good :thumbsup:
This may be true with an off the shelf cam but I have a custom cam spec'd for my exact combination and it will make max h.p. at all usable rpm.
Big Stroke and lightweight parts = :3gears:



sweet build cant wait for finished product and times
Me either, me either........:goodidea:

[2001GTTT]

sick build Rob!!! should be real nasty!!

[yeahloh95]

rob have you thought about putting an auto in ? like a c4 or glide?

[gmkillr]

rob have you thought about putting an auto in ? like a c4 or glide?

I have thought about this and still continue to do so.

I do have an agreement to purchase a Liberty Face-plated TKO 600 right now at a very agreeable price that would be very hard to pass up so I am leaning towards the stick.

Im sure the car would be much, much faster with the auto but it's hard for me to give up what I love (stick shift). With a stick its much more of a challenge to get a good 60' and to nail all of your shifts down track.
Auto's just dont impress me.....like a fast stick car does....:)

[yeahloh95]

i just think its going to be hard to hook up a 8000 rpm stick shift launch where an auto might not hit the tires so hard , and trust me i like sticks as much as anyone

[billyNOTnice]

i wish i had sponsors :)

[cam303]

i wish i had sponsors :)

Sponsors? Isnt sponsorship usually based on your abiliity to get the job done and get the sponsers products noticed?
I would think that would be reserved for class racers and such.

[gmkillr]

Picked up a few parts today and heres a shot of one of them.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02036.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02037.jpg

[yeahloh95]

rob would a 4 holed tb flow more air?

[billyNOTnice]

Sponsors? Isnt sponsorship usually based on your abiliity to get the job done and get the sponsers products noticed?
I would think that would be reserved for class racers and such.


Im teaming up with www.FordStrokers.com to build an 8.2 deck 385 cubic inch shortblock for my 94 Cobra. Ive trusted Jim (Woody) in the past with another engine build and he delivered beyond expectations! With Woodys track record for building reliable horsepower I knew I couldnt go wrong teaming up with FordStrokers.....:king:0

Look man i'm not going to sit here and argue in his thread because i made a simple post implying that it's cool he's got people helping him with this new setup. I'm pretty sure he understood what i meant. Sponsorship probably wasn't the best term i could have used, next time i'll be sure to put a little more time into my posts to make them easier to understand :lazy:

On a more positive note... I'm curious to see how badass this thing ends up turning out.... better not get scared of this one :)

[gmkillr]

rob would a 4 holed tb flow more air?


You need an aftermarket engine managment system like (FAST) or (BS3) to run those as there no way to run a MAF meter when using them.

I might be looking into one of these systems but not now, possibly next off-season or so.:goodidea:

[billyNOTnice]

EMS's are wild. It's pretty cool being able to change every parameter of my car on my laptop... I actually had a guy helping me with my idle, remote desktop onto my laptop from out of state and spend about an hour helping me set up my tables correctly... gotta love technology.

[gmkillr]

Mike down at www.WolfpackSpeed.com is building me an all brand new bullet-proof 8.8.

All the internals will be supplied by Dave at www.TeamZMotorsports.net

Wolfpack built 8.8 w/ welded axle tubes and Big Ford Late 9" ends welded on by Continental Competition
Strange 35 spline lightweight spool
Strange 35 spline axles
Strange "S" series rear street/strip lightweight brake package
Trickflow Girdle/cover
Motive lightweight 4.88 gears

Here's a shot of the cover I picked up yesterday and the rest of the part are heading straight to Wolfpack's shop.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02039.jpg

[gmkillr]

Ordered my T&D Shaft Rockers today and they said they should be ready to rock in a few days. They are being dropped shipped to FordStrokers shop.

Also got with Jay to upgrade to Titanium Retainers for my TW 205's

Thats all the updates I have for now. Hopefully very soon there will be some pics and new updates!

[yeahloh95]

rob did you see the new 5.0 and super fords with the black coupe with a 385" 8.2 dart based engine ?

[gmkillr]

rob did you see the new 5.0 and super fords with the black coupe with a 385" 8.2 dart based engine ?

No I let my subscriptions run out awhile back, I dont read any of the Mustang mags anymore.

Whats the combo? Times? H.P.?

[yeahloh95]

its a street car on 10.5s and he is hoping for 8's with some nos

[yeahloh95]

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/featuredvehicles/m5lp_1004_1990_mustang_lx/index.html

here you go

[MustangMike]

Rob - awesome combo man, 8k rpm, I can't wait to hear this thing zing at the track!!! Sorry I haven't gotten back to you to hear all the details, I've been super busy with work lately. Dave filled me in on what you're up to though.

You crack me up - you seemed concerned about a tranny being streetable and you're putting a spool in the car, LOL!!! :thmbsup:

You'll love those shaft rockers, good choice! Make sure you get an LSM torque wrench (I have the part number somewhere if you need it) for your lash adjustments. It lets you adjust lash, hold it, and torque the adjuster nut in one step without changing wrenches. The torque is critical from what I've been told, or you risk snapping rockers! You probably know this already, but thought I'd mention it.

[gmkillr]

UPDATE:

I picked up a Liberty Face-Plated TKO 600 and Pro-5.0 shifter for an extremely nice price!

Picked up a 93 Lightning smog pump to use as a vacuum pump which bolts right into my 94 Cobra acc. bracket where my factory smog pump came from.

[gmkillr]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02048.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02049.jpg

[TooFast98Cobra]

ohhh boyeee

[gmkillr]

Just got my rear-end back and they welded the axle tubes up, welded on Ford Late Model 9" ends on and welded in my axle braces. Im dropping it off for sandblasting and then powdercoating tommorow then off to assembly via Mike @ www.WolfPackSpeed.com

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02057.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02058.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02059.jpg

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[gmkillr]

Going to have to re-name this:

"Project FordStrokers 369 for Pinks All Out"

Dart 8.2 deck block
FordStrokers 4340 Forged Steel 3.400 stroke crank
Scat 4340 Forged Steel H-Beam Rods 5.400 w/ ARP 2000 Bolts
Probe SRS 2618 Forged Pistons (Flat tops) 4.155
Clevite 77 Bearings throughout
ARP Main Studs
Canton 7 qt. Oil Pan

Were getting close and im very excited!
Thanks again to Jim & Nicole at FordStrokers!

Also calling tommorow to order my new custom cam!

[gmkillr]

My little man helping me get this thing together!:D
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02069.jpg

Team Z Double Adjustable LCA's
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02071.jpg

Brake lines installed and ready to rock!
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02073.jpg

[97LaserRed]

Love the headlights. what kind are they?

[gmkillr]

Love the headlights. what kind are they?

Got them years ago from ABC Exclusive.

[97LaserRed]

nice! I cant wait to see this all done and in person. the quality of everything i've seen is perfect!

[gmkillr]

Rear-end is in!

Big Thanks goes out to my buddy Billy (Rio94GT) for giving up his Saturday afternoon and helping me get her in!

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02079.jpg

[yeahloh95]

looks great keep the pics coming

[yeahloh95]

any updates?

[gmkillr]

any updates?

Engine will be shipped out next week so should have all kinds of updates then.

Intake is being port matched as we speak.

[Balaska347]

Its been over a month since the last update... Pinks is right around the corner. Any updates?

[TooFast98Cobra]

maybe the show will get canceled due to rain give you some more time lol

[gmkillr]

Its been over a month since the last update... Pinks is right around the corner. Any updates?

Engine was delivered yesterday, now I gotta work double time to get it in the car and get some testing done before Pinks!

[Balaska347]

Thats cool... when is the date?

[gmkillr]

Thats cool... when is the date?

Aug. 27-28th is Pinks in Norwalk.

[phillysrt4]

Be careful heading out! Based on the other thread here, you can get a ticket from a cop who decides to "estimate" you were speeding :(

[gmkillr]

Be careful heading out! Based on the other thread here, you can get a ticket from a cop who decides to "estimate" you were speeding :(

What? Thats blows!:yes:

[wick]

Be careful heading out! Based on the other thread here, you can get a ticket from a cop who decides to "estimate" you were speeding :(


Or you can get pulled over cause your turn signals were not "yellow enough". Asshole carlisle cops...

[gmkillr]

Intake all mocked up and ready to go!
Duane Busch did a very nice port match job on it for me!

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02102.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02101.jpg

[biminiLX]

Looks good, need more pics!
-J

[gmkillr]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02105.jpg

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Couple of my buds lending a hand!
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/DSC02112.jpg

[mxracer652]

That elbow is HUGE!

[TJH64]

Looks great, Robert!
How soon until this thing makes some noise?

[gmkillr]

That elbow is HUGE!

:biglaugh: ahhh its not too big...its the Edelbrock 3849



Looks great, Robert!
How soon until this thing makes some noise?

Should have it in the car by Saturday night and hopefully making some noise within a week depending on how much time I can dedicate to it with the wife & kids needing my attention too!:laughing:

I'd like to have it tuned by the end of the month or very early next month at the latest!

[95riosnake]

Lookin awesome man! Sounds like you are on target to be finished for Pinks :awsome:

[mxracer652]

:biglaugh: ahhh its not too big...its the Edelbrock 3849

I don't see too much serious EFI stuff. I wanna see this thing run! :pepper:

[gmkillr]

Lookin awesome man! Sounds like you are on target to be finished for Pinks :awsome:

Thanks bro! I will have the car running and hopefully tuned by months end!



I don't see too much serious EFI stuff. I wanna see this thing run! :pepper:

Not much longer bud! :woot1:

[Balaska347]

Looks good are you running a vaccum pump?

[gmkillr]

Looks good are you running a vaccum pump?

Thanks! :)

Yes im running a vacuum pump and a relief valve to regulate vacuum. :goodidea:

[mxracer652]

What vac pump are you running? I saw a GZ and it looked like a worked over air pump out of a van or something. I keep being told Star is the way to go.

[Balaska347]

That will help you out alot :thmbsup:. I have heard alot of good thigs about star also but everyone I know runs a Moroso with no problems.

[gmkillr]

What vac pump are you running? I saw a GZ and it looked like a worked over air pump out of a van or something. I keep being told Star is the way to go.

Im just running a cheap thrown together kit I made myself.
93 Ford Lightning smog pump converted over to pull vacuum on my beast.
-12 an fittings all over.....should pull 10-12 vacuum with the pulley setup I have.

All the big time racers run Star and they come highly recomended. Down the road I might upgrade to one and see how she does....:yes:

[gmkillr]

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[yeahloh95]

looks great when is the 4 holed tb going on?

[wick]

Nice engine hoist.:goodidea:

[gmkillr]

looks great when is the 4 holed tb going on?

As soon as I get a Fast or Big Stuff 3 on this pig!



Nice engine hoist.:goodidea:

Thanks bro! This thing gets alot of work between you and I.......lol:highfive:

[wick]

HAHAHAH Oh yeah!! It has pulled 3 from mine and going to be doing another one this winter.... Plus the other projects. AHHAHA

[wick]

When you bringin that gear grinder over?:rofl:

[mxracer652]

Nice T&Ds.

I don't know about you, but I'll never use stud mount again.

[gmkillr]

We'll I will have the car at SGS this Friday being tuned so stay tuned! :hyper:

Predictions?

[yeahloh95]

good luck my guess is 475 to the tires not sure on torque yet

[biminiLX]

Great news Robert!
Can you summarize the combo again? I know its been through a few changes and I'd like to hear the final plan from the engine to the rear axle.
You should consider testing it out at Norwalk Fords at Summit later this month, I hope to be there working on my new auto set-up myself.
Good luck Friday, hopefully the weather is cooler.
-J

[wick]

I am going to lean towards 503@7500.

[Pure Stock]

495-520 rwhp.

[gmkillr]

Car made 475 rwhp & 402 rwtq
Peak hp was at 6800 and peak tq was at 5200
Peak hp didnt fall off very much through the next 1000 rpm up to 7800

There are some vacuum concerns that I need to get fixed.
Im going to get them taken care of, put some time on the engine then probably re-dyno it.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/7-9-10027.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/7-9-10028.jpg

[yeahloh95]

congrats those are great n/a numbers i bet with some more break in time on the engine and clutch it will make more

[Pure Stock]

What is the race weight?

[gmkillr]

What is the race weight?

Not sure yet, but im guessing it going to be in the 3200-3300 range and my hefty ass will be 250lbs. of that......:laughing:

[somethingclever]

Impressive power for 363ci......very nice.

[billyNOTnice]

cool man! hey when you were at SGS, did you happen to see anyone working on the red 96 cobra with the F1A procharger on it?? My buddy would really like to get that damn car back.

[TooFast98Cobra]

cool man! hey when you were at SGS, did you happen to see anyone working on the red 96 cobra with the F1A procharger on it?? My buddy would really like to get that damn car back.

I think I saw that car up there when wick and I went awhile back LOL

[gmkillr]

cool man! hey when you were at SGS, did you happen to see anyone working on the red 96 cobra with the F1A procharger on it?? My buddy would really like to get that damn car back.

Yeah I seen them moving it in the shop somewhere but thats it. Its running atleast...lol

[TJH64]

Good job on the build, 475 at the wheels is impressive:awsome:

[gmkillr]

And heres a shot at my whole sheet...hopefully everyone will be able to read it!

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[gmkillr]

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[gmkillr]

YouTube- gmkillr 1/8 mile shakedown run

[scott5]

nice rob.. that thing is awesome.. Once you get some more seat time, i def see it going quicker

[Pure Stock]

Sounds good man. 28x10.5's on there?

[Balaska347]

Nice run, what was the ET/MPH.

[gmkillr]

My foot was buried through the firewall on each shift so the hesitation your hearing is a tuning issue or a clutch issue. I got alot more testing to do to get it figured out. There a TON more left in the car. With 3 crappy shakedown passes in the 98 degree heat the best I could manage was 7.36 @ 97mph w/ a 1.59 60'

Lots more to come!

Joe, Yes they are brand new Mickey Thompson ET Drags 28 x 10.5 Stiffwall

[Balaska347]

Looks to be around 11.30's in the 1/4mile. Should have alot more in it and it's gonna need it to go 10.0's

[gmkillr]

Looks to be around 11.30's in the 1/4mile. Should have alot more in it and it's gonna need it to go 10.0's

Absolutely! The car has a ton left in it, this was the cars first trip down the
Track in over 2 years and it has a brand new engine...tranny...suspension...
Fuel system...rearend....tires...etc....basically the whole car is brand new.

Once I get the hesitation figured out I'm sure that will pick the car up a good bit.
Lots of testing to do before I get this car down into the mid 10's in the 1/4

[yeahloh95]

i think with some more gear and get that hesitation figured out ,the et's will drop a good bit

[Pure Stock]

more gear

agree.

[Balaska347]

What ignition/2step are you running? I think it will hit 10.50's once you getting it figured out.

[gmkillr]

I may have to step up my 4.88's to a 5.13 or so depending
On how fast the car eventually goes. Don't forget this engine was
Built to run some big time nitrous on it! I'm going to continue to run it
N/A this year though as my racing budget is drying up quick.


I have a msd 6al and a msd 2step that I'm currently running.
I believe the car will go 10.50s in some cooler weather once I get the car sorted out.

As for now I have a lot of testing to do in the next month before pinks gets here!

[gmkillr]

Went today and did a bunch of testing....probably made 7-8 hits total

What I have learned:

Car will not rev over 7500, once it hits 7500 it hitting a limit somewhere....in the msd 6al or in the sct chip

SGS told me he set it to 8500 so im not understanding this.....

I tried short shifting the car at 6000-6500-7000 and it hit the same limiter on each shift.

I disconected the 2-step and tried everything with the same results.

I tried a 5400 pill in the msd just for ####s & giggles to see if it where it would hit and it hit dead nuts on at 5400.

I honestly dont know whether:

1. My distributor is cutting out and I need a new msd or summit brand distributor

2. My MSD 6AL is cutting out and I need a new one. I can get a digital 6 box for $190 shipped but dont want to buy without knowing its the ignition box for sure.

3. Possibly my TFI module that I now have mounted inside my fender. Its a newer unit that I put on a few years ago.

4. My stock computer....

5. The tune on my sct chip

Wolfpack Speed has offered to go through my chip and make a few small adjustments on things that he believes would help and burn it on a "better" Diablosport chip and give it to me to try. That way if it doesnt work I still have my SCT chip to fall back on.

Help...guidance...advise...critisism.....anything would be appreciated at this point.

Here's the Summit brand distributor im looking at:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-850410/

And here's the MSD:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-8455/


The Summit brand one is $85 cheaper and truthfully looks like the MSD so I wouldnt be suprised if MSD makes them for Summit and lets them market it as their own.

I dont want to go buying part that I dont need or have the money for that matter so what are some suggestions?

If anybody local has a distributor or ignition box for me to try I would greatly appreciate it!
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[Pure Stock]

http://www.youtube.com/user/rnshuble#p/a/u/0/wV3BvyaQgBg

The 1-2 shift sounded clean on this pass. But then the 2-3 had the bug. What rpm did you pull 2nd? Also, what max rpm are you at in the water box? Try bypassing the MSD ignition and run the stock ignition.

[gmkillr]

http://www.youtube.com/user/rnshuble#p/a/u/0/wV3BvyaQgBg

The 1-2 shift sounded clean on this pass. But then the 2-3 had the bug. What rpm did you pull 2nd? Also, what max rpm are you at in the water box? Try bypassing the MSD ignition and run the stock ignition.

Thats the 1 and only pass I ever had a "clean" non-hesitant shift and it was at 6800-6900

I made multiple hits today at that rpm and lower and had the hesitation/ stutter.

My 2nd gear burnouts are made in the 5000-5500 range.

Im going to try the stock ignition and see what it does.

[TJH64]

Robert,I have a TFI module and the module from the distributor that I can ship to your house to try out and see if these are the culprit.

This is just a thought, but with you spinning this new combo much higher than the previous ones, have you checked the shaft in the distributor for excessive wear. I'm thinking the shaft may be wobbling causing erratic contact at the rotor??

[gmkillr]

Robert,I have a TFI module and the module from the distributor that I can ship to your house to try out and see if these are the culprit.

This is just a thought, but with you spinning this new combo much higher than the previous ones, have you checked the shaft in the distributor for excessive wear. I'm thinking the shaft may be wobbling causing erratic contact at the rotor??

Thanks for the offer but I have another TFI module here.
Got a MSD box or distributor to try? lol:laughing:

The shaft in my old distributor did have alot of play and thats what caused the rotor to hit in the cap and break. Threw in a replacement old dizzy I had laying around that had NO play in the shaft and the car runs fine but I still had the above experiences with my testing after it was installed.

[cam303]

I have an msd box and an msd distributor you can try but i dont think the distributor will work on the 94-95 cars

[gmkillr]

I have an msd box and an msd distributor you can try but i dont think the distributor will work on the 94-95 cars

Yes the 94-95 distributors are year specific.

What box do you have....6AL?

[cam303]

Yes the 94-95 distributors are year specific.

What box do you have....6AL?

Yes 6AL

[yeahloh95]

maybe you need to do the crystal mod ?

[Killercanary]

maybe you need to do the crystal mod ?

That is for A9L ECU's only.

[gmkillr]

That is for A9L ECU's only.

From my understanding its for any and all eec-IV and eec-V as they all have the same 15MHz oscillator crystal in them. They need to be upgraded to a 18MHz crystal to process the higher rpms.

http://www.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=39946&highlight=crystal&page=2

http://eectuning.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13962

[Balaska347]

My first suggestion is to run the car on a full quarter mile track because you might learn something on the second half of the track or find more problems. I can understand tuning your suspension and launches at that track but you have bigger problems. Pinks is not 1/8 mile...

I highly doubt its the distibutor because it is working the whole time the car is running. It doesnt know when you are shifting the car. The same thing goes for the TFI. They usually act up when they get hot and it is all through the rpm ot also doent know if te car is shifting.

When I am questioning my ignition box I do what Joe said just bypass it and run the factory ignition and if it still does it thats not your problem.

Im still betting its the tune or the crystal.

[bgblockelcamino]

keep in mind with steel valley it is great for shakedowns but not always accurate comparison. you were def pulling some decent 60s there.

wouldn't be surprised with msd box. have had a few go bad on me. but usually revert back to stock ignition temporarily and see what it does.

[wick]

I really doubt its the tune. It makes no sense. Have you changed the cap yet? I would bypass the msd and try a different coil. How is the charging system? The pop could be causing issues at the elevated rpm also.

[wick]

Figure, dave tunes enough race cars that turn the high rpm.

[Balaska347]

Its not the cap but they are cheap enough if it would make you feel better to try it. If you know how it works it doesn't make sense for it to only do it during shifts.

[yeahloh95]

is your 2 step tied into the clutch pedal can you be activating it during the shift ?

[wick]

Its not the cap but they are cheap enough if it would make you feel better to try it. If you know how it works it doesn't make sense for it to only do it during shifts.the rpm rips up when he is pushing the clutch in. It could be giving some erratic spark inside the cap.


is your 2 step tied into the clutch pedal can you be activating it during the shift ?
I asked this the first time he called me.

[Balaska347]

the rpm rips up when he is pushing the clutch in. It could be giving some erratic spark inside the cap.


Doesn't he run a face plated TKO? I didn't think you used the clutch when shifting...

He spins the motor to 7800 no problem therefore the parts that he has have to be working pretty darn good. The problem only occurs during the shifts. I highly doubt he is going to find the problem with the basic things. This is only my 2cents so dont take it for much.

[biminiLX]

Still use the clutch with a face-plated trans.

I also thought about the 2-step on the clutch but is there anyway to disable it if its tied to the clutch?
What did Dave at SGS think.
I still think aftermarket injection is in your near future.
Good luck.
-J

[gmkillr]

Im borrowing a MSD 6AL box from a very generous board member to see if that is part of the issue.

Im getting a brand new MSD Billet Distributor.

Dave Guy @ SGS wont return my phone calls....:rolleyes:

The only way my 2-step works is if my momentary switch is held down so that is not the issue. This was the very first thing that I tested as I thought it could have been the culprit. Once I let my finger off of the momentary switch the 2-step no longer works. Hell I even took the 2-step out of the car and it changed nothing.

I will make some 1/4 mile hits before Pinks, I have to worry about these issues first.

Once again Mike @ Wolfpack Speed is really stepping up and helping me sort out my issues. Hats off to him!:goodidea: Thanks buddy!:highfive:

Im going to try a new improvised tune from Jon Lund via Wolfpack Speed and upgrade the crystal in my stock ecu.

I use a diaphram clutch that is shifted just like a NON-Face-plated tranny.
Ive heard you can shift them without the clutch but it is extremly hard on it so I wont be doing that anytime soon....lol:o

From my research, with the crystal upgrade to the stock ecu and a good tune is good to 8500 rpm which will suit me fine as my junk was built for 8K.:)

[biminiLX]

Not cool that the guy that tuned it won't call you back.
Hopefully the crystal helps, PM sent to you and Mike.
-J

[gmkillr]

New MSD Billet Distributor should be here today from Summit.

I have cam303's MSD 6AL box all ready to go. I want to run just the new distributor by itself first to see if thats the fix, if not then i'll switch over to cam303's (Chris) msd box and make another pass to see what that does.

Testing,testing & more testing.....:yes:


J, I hit ya back with a pm bud!

[yeahloh95]

so you are coming to prp tomorrow then ? that gets you some run time during the week

[gmkillr]

so you are coming to prp tomorrow then ? that gets you some run time during the week

Lol......ummmm no!

It will take some extreme measures for me to ever race at prp again. Quaker and steel valley are closer, nicer, and hook a 1000xs better.

Quaker has t&t on thursday this week and steel valley has t&t on friday and they both have race days on Saturdays.

I should be racing Saturday at one of the 2 tracks. Hopefully with revealing results!

[yeahloh95]

oh , i didnt know they raced during the week , and i didnt know prp was that far for you. there are a bunch of knowlegable guys that run at prp , its hard to help diagnose a problem over the intenet .

[mlowry1260]

Why don't you speak with Bob Kurgan. I think he can do a mail-order tune for the PMS. He may have some ideas otherwise too. I buy all my AEM stuff from Bob.

[Balaska347]

Quaker and steel valley are closer, nicer, and hook a 1000x better

Let me know when you come back to reality lol. The only thing thats correct in that statement is that they are closer. Seriously Steel Valley is barely even a race track. I do go there from time to time because the people that run it are good people.

[wick]

Let me know when you come back to reality lol. The only thing thats correct in that statement is that they are closer. Seriously Steel Valley is barely even a race track. I do go there from time to time because the people that run it are good people.


:rollingfloorrlol::biglaugh::rollingfloorrlol:

[gmkillr]

Let me know when you come back to reality lol. The only thing thats correct in that statement is that they are closer. Seriously Steel Valley is barely even a race track. I do go there from time to time because the people that run it are good people.

Steel Valley is way closer, might not be that nice of a track but it hooks.

Quaker is better by all reguards!
Its a faster track, 1000 x's nicer, hooks better, better managment, much nicer atmosphere, etc....Just a better track all the way around.

[Balaska347]

I should be racing Saturday at one of the 2 tracks. Hopefully with revealing results!


Well... what are the results?

[gmkillr]

Ran the car today at Quaker City Raceway!

The Negative............

Brand New MSD Pro-Billt Distributor........ did not cure the problem.

Hooked up & tried another MSD 6AL Box (cam303's)...did not cure the problem.

Tried short shifting the car at 6500 rpm.....did not cure the problem.

2-Step completely disconnected.....did not cure the problem.

The Positive......................

The car hooked very well on a completely un-prepped track that nobody seemed to be hooking on but me.....which I believe attests to the work Wolfpack did helping me set-up the Team Z suspension. A combination of great parts & knowledge helped the car immensly! I managed the following 60' times:
1.470
1.472
1.473
1.500
I feel on a well prepped track that the car could do some 1.43-1.45 60' times

The car pulls like an absolute freight train up until the hesitation at each shift.
Fordstrokers built me an absolute missle of an engine!

Ran:
11.22 @ 121.63
And I have a handful of 11.30 slips @ 121-123

Wolfpack Speed is burning me a new chip with a few improvements in it that could possibly help with the hesitation issues during the shifts. I should be out next weekend testing it. More news to follow............

[ModularMike]

Car is a rocket, and a great looking one at that. Nice meeting ya, love the car!

[yeahloh95]

now that you ran the full 1/4 are you happy with the gears, whats your crossing rpm ?

[somethingclever]

Nice 60'!!!

[Balaska347]

Man, I hope you get it figured out.

[gmkillr]

now that you ran the full 1/4 are you happy with the gears, whats your crossing rpm ?

Yes im pretty content with my cross rpm of 7000-7100
Might pick up some to once I get my tune figured out and fix my hesitation issue and the car goes faster.

[gmkillr]

Nice 60'!!!
Thanks bud!



Man, I hope you get it figured out.
I believe we may have found something!
We will know very soon! :hyper:

[yeahloh95]

thats great i'll bet it picks up a couple rpm with out the mis

[Balaska347]

I believe we may have found something!
We will know very soon! :hyper:

I think you got this time. Like I said, I believe it in the computer which I thought SGS would have taken care of it. Being that it only happens during the shifts and the RPM doesn't matter told me it wasn't going to be a mechanical problem like dizzy, cap, ignition box...

[billyNOTnice]

Hope you got this figured out man... I've never personally delt with SGS, but my buddys cobra has been there for 2 months, and i've heard every phone conversation. I'm completely turned off from ever taking anything there.

[yeahloh95]

any new updates from the weekend ?

[Balaska347]

I believe we may have found something!
We will know very soon! :hyper:

I thought we would have had an update by now. Is Pinks this weekend or next?

[gmkillr]

Ive been so damn busy painting the car that I havent had time to do anything. Should be back out for testing thursday or friday.

[yeahloh95]

painting??? are you going yellow ? it is faster you know

[97LaserRed]

painting??? are you going yellow ? it is faster you know
:yes:

[gmkillr]

New paint scheme that my brother-in-law laid down for me.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/7-9-10171.jpg

[billyNOTnice]

more pix... i'm into it!

[gmkillr]

Sorry all I have for now are these crappy cell phone pics while its sitting in the garage.......

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/36822_424572839819_705519819_4611566_5139922_n.jpg

[wick]

Post the one you sent me from the driveway last week.

[Mater]

I like it!,

[yeahloh95]

looks great is the roof done too

[gmkillr]

looks great is the roof done too

Yes, the complete roof, mirrors, tops of fenders and hood.

[yeahloh95]

awsome i love the two toned

[billyNOTnice]

love it

[biminiLX]

My brother just got called and he's in with a wait list ticket, might see ya there if I can make it (doubtful).
-J

[gmkillr]

We're leaving thursday morning about 5am to be there when racer registration begins at 8am and so we can get a nice pit spot.

You guys are more than welcome to stop by our pit area to b.s., have a beer, or whatever.

Hope to see you guys there!

[biminiLX]

If I can come it would only be Sat. because my wife is due on Monday :)
Good luck, ever get the miss fixed?
-J

[gmkillr]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/40774_425912926586_655836586_5526003_581989_n.jpg

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/45393_425913491586_655836586_5526027_277586_n.jpg

[biminiLX]

Looks great Robert!
Good luck this weekend.
Needs a temporary pink pinstripe for Pinks BTW ;)
-J

[Mater]

Looks great bud!
Good luck this weekend.

[Balaska347]

It looks like the those pics were taking at steel valley dragway. Did you get the car to run good yet?

[billyNOTnice]

yeah man what's the update on the run status?

[wick]

The colors looked good on the car today.

[Balaska347]

The colors looked good on the car today.

Thats not good when only thing you have to say is the cars paint looks good. How about an update...

[gmkillr]

Car Hooked great and went 1.46 but I was experiencing some clutch issues.
My clutch pedal was sticking to the floor and wouldnt come back up.
Despite the clutch setup being shit I still managed to go 11.43 with the pedal sticking to the floor on 3 & 4th gear for a long period of time.

Once I get the clutch worked out and the hesitation issues between shifts cured I feel that the car will go 10.70's or so no problem. Just gotta work through these new car/combo bugs and get the car to perform that way that it should.

[mlowry1260]

Rob,

while I'm sure you're disappointed you gave it a good effort. You'll get it sorted out and I hope you see the potential of the car. Look at gray86hatch (Tim) over on hardcore, the guy tests, tests & tests some more. You'll get there, keep plugging away at it!

[gmkillr]

Rob,

while I'm sure you're disappointed you gave it a good effort. You'll get it sorted out and I hope you see the potential of the car. Look at gray86hatch (Tim) over on hardcore, he guy tests, tests & tests some more. You'll get there, keep plugging away at it!

Mark, Thanks alot and im definately disappointed but at the same time I understand it takes time and lots of testing to get things perfect. I will have this car going where it should be hopefully by the end of the season.

I have an engine that accelerates like a freight train. I couldnt ask for more out of my engine, this thing is a beast!

I have a suspension & rear-end that hooks like a mofo. The car just hooks and goes better than I could have asked for!

Thanks!:goodidea:

[Balaska347]

keep at it, you'll find more ET in it.

[wick]

Exactly like mark said. It was a gamble with a new car but you had a great time!! That's what matters pal!! It was nice to atleast see it make a pass. Clean or not. Didn't get.the camera fast enough though.

[biminiLX]

You'll get there Robert, new car combos always take some time, I know :)
What are your thoughts on the hesitation. If you got that PMS, I'd still talk to that guy near Norwalk about tuning it then running it after.
What clutch set-up?
11.40s is still good especially the 60'!
-J

[TooFast98Cobra]

car looked good Robert! Wish we could have stayed longer

[gmkillr]

keep at it, you'll find more ET in it.
Thanks man! :awsome:



Exactly like mark said. It was a gamble with a new car but you had a great time!! That's what matters pal!! It was nice to atleast see it make a pass. Clean or not. Didn't get.the camera fast enough though.
Yeah we had a blast despite the issues with the car! I have my 1.46 60' run on video I just have to get it off of my camera.



You'll get there Robert, new car combos always take some time, I know :)
What are your thoughts on the hesitation. If you got that PMS, I'd still talk to that guy near Norwalk about tuning it then running it after.
What clutch set-up?
11.40s is still good especially the 60'!
-J
lol.......yeah it certainly does take awhile to iron new combo's out...:laughing:
Im thinking that the hesitation lies in the factory computer but before I go there I need to get these clutch issues worked out as I cant make any good passes with my pedal stuck to the floor....:laughing:

My clutch is a Kustom Hi-Rev from Wally @ Pro-Motion.

Thanks alot bro!



car looked good Robert! Wish we could have stayed longer
Yeah you guys should have swung by the Pits and said Hi.....:)