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1badnotch
01-09-2011, 08:34 PM
I am starting to put together a new combo for my 91 coupe. I am going to start with a 351w Dart SHP block this time. Who has the best deal on them? Any place fairly local to save on shipping? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Mark

gmkillr
01-09-2011, 08:40 PM
You can buy a DIY block from Fordstrokers. It will come ready to assemble. Give Woody a call & tell him what you need, he will take care of you! :awsome:

1badnotch
01-11-2011, 12:52 PM
I talked to Woody today about a DIY Dart SHP 408w. Going with SCAT 4340 internals and 9:1 compression. Prices were pretty good. I will probably be ordering one soon:goodidea:.

gmkillr
01-11-2011, 01:11 PM
I talked to Woody today about a DIY Dart SHP 408w. Going with SCAT 4340 internals and 9:1 compression. Prices were pretty good. I will probably be ordering one soon:goodidea:.

Good to hear! He's a great dude to work with!

1badnotch
01-11-2011, 01:25 PM
Seems like a good guy. Took the time to answer all of my questions,asked me some questions about my combo and shipping is very reasonable too.

biminiLX
01-12-2011, 08:59 AM
Hey Mark, I like the plan.
Just wonder why you're not going with the larger bore to make 427 (4.125 bore 408)?
Keep us posted on the build.
-J

1badnotch
01-12-2011, 09:21 AM
J
I am going with the 408 4.030" bore because I will have a lot more block longevity as far as future overbores as opposed to the 4.125" bore. I realize that the larger bore would probably make more power,but I am more concerned with the future overbore block longevity.
Mark

Black Vert
01-12-2011, 09:39 AM
I talked to Woody today about a DIY Dart SHP 408w. Going with SCAT 4340 internals and 9:1 compression. Prices were pretty good. I will probably be ordering one soon:goodidea:.

Why the low compression, power adder or two maybe? :thmbsup:

PaxtonShelby
01-12-2011, 09:56 AM
I talked to Woody today about a DIY Dart SHP 408w. Going with SCAT 4340 internals and 9:1 compression. Prices were pretty good. I will probably be ordering one soon:goodidea:.

Hi - can you shoot me a PM with the specifics and cost breakdown? I'm considering the same thing down the road. Thanks!

1badnotch
01-12-2011, 12:25 PM
Yeah,the low compression is for a turbo:woot1:

yeahloh95
01-12-2011, 01:05 PM
even if you go 4.125 there should be room to go out to 4.155 later all those added cubes will help spool that turbo , and even run better n/a

gmkillr
01-13-2011, 12:13 AM
J
I am going with the 408 4.030" bore because I will have a lot more block longevity as far as future overbores as opposed to the 4.125" bore. I realize that the larger bore would probably make more power,but I am more concerned with the future overbore block longevity.
Mark

The 4.125 is a shelf piston along with the 4.155 and the 4.185.
You dont get into a custom piston until you go larger than 4.185
So if you go 4.125 you still have two .030 rebuild left.

Just something to consider......:goodidea:

1badnotch
01-13-2011, 05:32 AM
I am going to stay with a 4.030" bore for now. I like the added insurance of many overbores since I'm forking out about $2,000 for the block.

biminiLX
01-13-2011, 08:31 AM
I am going to stay with a 4.030" bore for now. I like the added insurance of many overbores since I'm forking out about $2,000 for the block.
I can understand that.
There are positive and negatives to both.
Usually Dart blocks are good to at least 4.185 (some extreme NA guys have gone 4.200) so I do feel you'd be fine for future rebuilds at 4.125.
The 4.030 will give you more block left, less piston weight, less potential head gasket sealing issues with boost and more potential detonation resistance.
The 4.125 will give you more head flow (especially with a TFS High Port and its valve spacing) and more power potential.
I think both options will be about the same as power will be limited by the turbo anyway.
Good block choice, I like my FRPP/SVO block but DART is even better.:awsome:
-J

1badnotch
01-18-2011, 08:56 PM
Well,after a lot of phone conversations I have finally made a decision on a shortblock. I placed an order today with Keith Craft for my 408w shortblock. Specs are below. I am pretty pumped:woot1:

408w with 9:1 compression
Dart sportsman 9.5" deck block,bored 4.030"
Scat 4340 crank,internal balanced
Scat 4340 rods,h-beam,ARP 2000 rod bolts
diamond forged pistons,9:1 compression,tool steel pins
hellfire rings
clevite bearings
machined and assembled by Keith Craft

biminiLX
01-19-2011, 09:24 AM
Nice choice with Keith Kraft.
Almost identical to mine except I went with 4.125 bore.
Keep us updated, should be sweet!
-J

1badnotch
01-19-2011, 06:03 PM
I will keep you posted on the progress. I am going to run it a while NA to break the motor in and then do the turbo setup. I am using the following parts on the new motor during the break in.

Barry Grant race demon RS carb
Super Victor intake(ported)
aluminum TFS highports flow 315/245 @ .650" lift,60cc chambers
crane gold race rockers,1.6 ratio
MSD 85801 distributor
probably a FTI cam