04 mods

[thaley21]

Anyone know any good quick power adders for a 3.9L. Got the CAI and thinking about getting a true dual exhaust and i am going to get a tuner with in the next couple weeks. Right now i got a summit dual exhaust but i need more noise and power..... so all ideas for extra power will be helpful.

[cwh19]

Anyone know any good quick power adders for a 3.9L. Got the CAI and thinking about getting a true dual exhaust and i am going to get a tuner with in the next couple weeks. Right now i got a summit dual exhaust but i need more noise and power..... so all ideas for extra power will be helpful.


For a v6, the cats need to be gone to make noise. You can have whatever mufflers on it that you want, but it will sound the same as long as the cats stay.

[White5.0]

remove V6, insert V8.

problem solved.

[scott5]

remove V6, insert V8.

problem solved.

x2..

[ModularMike]

remove V6, insert LSx.

problem solved.
Totally agree my man. :biglaugh:

[97LaserRed]

What's your budget?? The windstar intake is a great upgrade. Exhaust and a tuner is a must. If you have the cash go with a procharger,vortech, or turbo. You'll gain the most from turbo but it's most expensive. Procharger is the cheapest but 2nd most power gainer

[scott5]

Totally agree my man. :biglaugh:

Thats what i was going to do:laughing1:


What's your budget?? The windstar intake is a great upgrade. Exhaust and a tuner is a must. If you have the cash go with a procharger,vortech, or turbo. You'll gain the most from turbo but it's most expensive. Procharger is the cheapest but 2nd most power gainer

this coming from mr. 4v turbo swap after a procharged v6 wasnt enough:laughing:

[97LaserRed]

Hey I still support my fellow v6ers Lol

[SlowSix]

For a v6, the cats need to be gone to make noise. You can have whatever mufflers on it that you want, but it will sound the same as long as the cats stay.

+1. He can vouch for this after hearing my car both with and without cats.
Cats = almost silent at idle and not loud until you're on it.
No cats = can actually hear it at idle, much louder, deeper, really raspy at high rpms.
Don't run straight through mufflers on a v6 or it will sound like a lawnmower on steriods. (magnapacks, cherry bombs, borla, etc)
Most people run Flowmaster 40's...but they WILL drone at highway speed if you don't have cats.
Your mid pipe changes the sound alittle too (H Pipe, deeper and more mellow, X pipe louder and raspier)


Windstar Intake is a good one, its what I'm gonna be doing soon.
www.vapauto.com (http://www.vapauto.com)

Some people have made some decent power with the Super Six Motorsports Lumpy Cam and porting the heads, lower intake, windstar, etc.

If you want to make real power you need to go FI though.

[phillysrt4]

another vote for the windstar intake. Can be a relatively cheap mod to do if you have access to a salvage yard or as was posted go to vapauto and get the kit all in one.

I think a handheld tuner might not be bad to have either especially if you want to fine tune your boltons.

(EDIT - if your rear is stock, 3.73's or 4.10's with a tlock wouldn't hurt either)

I also have a vote for FI. TMA Turbo (I think thats who it was) does a TT setup for the v6 stangs. If you want to do it on a budget, you have almost all the hotside of a TT setup. If you flip your stock headers there is only one cut and weld you have to do- IIRC its on the passenger side- so that the exhaust header clears the motor mount. If you have the skill to do the cut and weld, you have the skill to do the rest of the hotside TT setup.

Again, if you have access to a salvage yard and can score some T3's off a thunderbird and do the flipped headers, you could get a TT setup in your car for cheap (last time I looked into it i could do it with a mix of new parts (intercooler, cold side piping) and salvage yard parts for something like $660. Just dont try to run more than 3-5psi without some fuel mods.

Or you can be lazy and just get some NAWWWzzzzzzz!

[SlowSix]

Idk why everyone wants twins lol. A single turbo thats setup is perfectly fine.
10-12 pounds will make you happy before youre pushing the block into the danger zone (which I've read is around 350-400 rwhp).
If you do a 4.2 or 4.3 stroker, sky is the limit. No one has blown one up yet, and thats with some 600+ rwhp v6's.

TMA isn't making kits anymore currently though.

[phillysrt4]

Idk why everyone wants twins lol. A single turbo thats setup is perfectly fine.
10-12 pounds will make you happy before youre pushing the block into the danger zone (which I've read is around 350-400 rwhp).
If you do a 4.2 or 4.3 stroker, sky is the limit. No one has blown one up yet, and thats with some 600+ rwhp v6's.

TMA isn't making kits anymore currently though.


I think its two reasons:

1) pimp factor, and
2a) going with a twin means each turbo only has to support 1.9 litres. A t3 in a 50 trim, 60 trim, or super 60 will give you full spool as close to just off idle as you can get (edit- and they're not that expensive. treadstone sells t3 60 trims for something like 645 brand new). We're not talking a honda civic here that revs to 8 or 9 grand (exaggeration but you get my point) so the sooner you can get spool the better.
2b) There is a large array of turbo choices for displacements between 1.6 and 2.4 litres that give great spoolup/power output characteristics.

I was just going through v6power.net and according to a thread I skimmed through he will make you the hotside if you PM him. I'll find the thread again.

In any event a hotside is just a flip, cut and weld away... theoretically...


or you can just get nawz! ;)

[SlowSix]

Yeah I guess so.
There is a guy on Moddedmustangs that makes custom ground cams, does port work, and I'm pretty sure is making hotside kits now.

[phillysrt4]

Yeah I guess so.
There is a guy on Moddedmustangs that makes custom ground cams, does port work, and I'm pretty sure is making hotside kits now.

really? Thats awesome!

If you have a link to a thread or the member name shoot me a PM if/when you get a chance. I always like to keep up with things like that.

[SlowSix]

really? Thats awesome!

If you have a link to a thread or the member name shoot me a PM if/when you get a chance. I always like to keep up with things like that.

He goes by ESG 642T or something along those lines. I'm pretty sure the numbers wrong, but you will find him.

[thaley21]

Thanks alot everyone. You all have been really helpful and gave me a nice list of ideas to do as the money comes lol. but lately the moneys been going faster then coming. so im gonna hold off for a lil and probably grab the intake tuner and probably a supercharger after june.

[SlowSix]

With a supercharger just know you're gonna need to do the necessary fuel mods, and an 8.8 rear end because the 7.5 won't really handle the power from a supercharger.

[thaley21]

So far what i want to do is get the 8.8 and change the gears and all the underdrive pulleys. put the windstar intake on it and maybe the turbo off the thunderbird. but im still open for ideas im just looking at the things that ill have to wait for so i know what its gonna run my bank account down to... but also been thinking of taking 7 grand out to streetlethal and saying here do what you want to it lol

[SlowSix]

Lol the street lethal idea would work.
Underdrive pulleys aren't really worth it from what I've read.
Turbo off a thunderbird wouldn't work all that well if you're talking about the 2.3T turbocoupe, I'd imagine its too small. If you're talking about the supercharger from a supercoupe, the M90, its not worth doing if you have a splitport.

[thaley21]

Yeah i think im just going to stick with the street lethal idea lol that way i dont have to be the one to do all the thinking...

[thaley21]

Im done with the exterior for now besides wanting rims and a cobra body kit but those can wait since its my dd and PA weather cant make up its mind if it wants to rain snow or be sunny... so this will save me some good money up till june...

[SlowSix]

Yeah I'm basically done with the exterior mods. Currently I have 6000K HIDS, (free hacksaw edition) shorty antenna, Mach 1 Grille Delete, Mach 1 Chin Spoiler, 03-04 cobra wheels, 20% tint. And I have 3000K hids waiting to go into my fogs and get wired up.

Only other thing I want to do is lower it. Considering cutting my springs.

[thaley21]

Yeah i got 8000k HIDs chrome headlights and euro tails, Saleen speedster vert cover, mach 1 delete kit, deleted all the stripes off it, and new top is going to be put on in 2 weeks. I want the cobra or saleen wheels and a cobra body kit... then maybe black and tan seat covers or just pay the extra and get them completely changed..

[SlowSix]

Idk about a whole cobra or saleen body kit. v6 cobra clone : /. You should get a termi front bumper cover and maybe a shaved cobra rear
And you should get rid of the euro tails. I mean if you like them thats fine but I think they look super ugly.

[thaley21]

See i hate euros on most cars but white and black cars with euros i think they look good on...

[SlowSix]

Eh. lol
I've been thinking about smoking mine

[Slow01GT]

Euro tails look good on no color. I even have a dislike for the euroish factory tails on the goat. Tinted tails look tits on a white car.

[SlowSix]

Agreed. I want to tint mine but don't want to mess my stock tails up so I might just get a cheap pair somewhere.

[thaley21]

what year you got cause i still got the stock tails off mine...

[SlowSix]

2001

[thaley21]

Well if you ever want an extra set let me know... mine are in really good shape from what i remember when i took them off

[SlowSix]

I might take you up on that offer in a few months

[Steve-0]

Well if you ever want an extra set let me know... mine are in really good shape from what i remember when i took them off

You should keep the stockers and put them back on and sell the clear ones to someone that doesnt know any better. BecAuse euro tails are terrible.:goodidea:

[phillysrt4]

what about nawz?

[SlowSix]

Nitrous would work yeah. But nitrous is more useful if its gonna be a track car. Power all the time (FI) > having to refill bottles, turn it on, etc.

[phillysrt4]

^^^ agreed, but for cheap power its not bad provided you dont need it all the time

[SlowSix]

True. I currently have a windstar kit sitting in my trunk lol

[phillysrt4]

nice! when does it go on?

[SlowSix]

Not sure. I currently have to find a Windstar EGR mount, which I found already but its getting shipped so.

[phillysrt4]

are you going to buy that little angle thingy from what's-their-face so that you can use the stock hood?

[PaxtonShelby]

are you going to buy that little angle thingy from what's-their-face so that you can use the stock hood?

...enough of the techinical talk...just call the angle thingy a doo-hickey so we all can understand what you're saying!!!

[SlowSix]

The angled TB spacer, and yeah I already have it. I have most of the brackets from VAP, I bought a kit. I just need the EGR mount, and a MAF to Air Filter bracket.
They guy even gave me his modded coolant line so I don't have to mess with mine lol.

Vap Auto sells the whole kit.
www.vapauto.com (http://www.vapauto.com)

[ESG-642T]

He goes by ESG 642T or something along those lines. I'm pretty sure the numbers wrong, but you will find him.

The numbers were correct:awsome:

[SlowSix]

The numbers were correct:awsome:

....You're everywhere. WTF. lol

[phillysrt4]

Lol!

[03shadow]

haha nice kyle! i didnt think you just posted, and i didnt think youd find the thread i was talking about. youre good man :p