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yeahloh95
04-13-2011, 09:47 PM
what kind of numbers are these things putting down stock ? is there a list somewhere ?

jaa55
04-13-2011, 09:49 PM
everything ive seen is mostly 370 and up

PaxtonShelby
04-13-2011, 10:04 PM
lots of new 5.0 info over on modularfords.com

Pure Stock
04-14-2011, 07:57 PM
A tuner got 391 sae rwhp out of a bone stock MT-82 version and then with a tune only the same car yielded 415 sae.

jaa55
04-14-2011, 08:29 PM
291???

Pure Stock
04-14-2011, 09:31 PM
291???

391.

jaa55
04-14-2011, 09:59 PM
haha ok i figured it was a typo, I wish I would have dynoed mine for a baseline.

yeahloh95
04-15-2011, 06:41 AM
391 wow !

Killercanary
04-15-2011, 09:07 AM
Joe I know you do your research well, but that seems a bit inflated to me. 415rwhp would equate to roughly 460-475 at the flywheel. I'm sorry but with just a tune I don't see how it is possible. Maybe if it was a diesel or came with a power adder from the factory but for an NA combination there simply isn't enough parameters to maximize in the PCM to obtain a power gain such as that. I know there may be more to gain in a new 5.0 due to the variable cam timing but I still don't see them gaining that much.

SK360
04-15-2011, 09:10 AM
A friend of mines 2011

http://www.steelcitystangs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22683

yeahloh95
04-15-2011, 09:15 AM
paul what you have to think about this is a 11-1 motor with very good flowing heads and dual knock sensors so i think adding some better fuel and thowing timing at it will pick up a good bit , ford even rates it differently for 87 than 93

Pure Stock
04-15-2011, 09:19 AM
Joe I know you do your research well, but that seems a bit inflated to me. 415rwhp would equate to roughly 460-475 at the flywheel. I'm sorry but with just a tune I don't see how it is possible. Maybe if it was a diesel or came with a power adder from the factory but for an NA combination there simply isn't enough parameters to maximize in the PCM to obtain a power gain such as that. I know there may be more to gain in a new 5.0 due to the variable cam timing but I still don't see them gaining that much.

Here is the link Paul. Got to watch what gear the pull is done in...
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/showthread.php/159897-Livernois-Motorsports-Tuned-2011-Mustang?

Pure Stock
04-15-2011, 10:52 PM
paul what you have to think about this is a 11-1 motor with very good flowing heads and dual knock sensors so i think adding some better fuel and thowing timing at it will pick up a good bit , ford even rates it differently for 87 than 93

From what I have gathered its not uncommon to gain approx. 22-24 peak to peak from a stock to a tuned combo and then adding a cold air brings the peak to peak up around 30 over stock. Then when talking avg. terms some tuners are seeing numbers close to 30 for a tune only and 40 for tune and cold air combos. The avg. pull would be based off of a 2,000 - limiter rpm pull.

On a side note. We couldn't get the planets aligned for some pulls today Troy.

yeahloh95
04-16-2011, 09:47 AM
yes i would like to see what kind of numbers your car puts down

Pure Stock
04-16-2011, 10:25 AM
yes i would like to see what kind of numbers your car puts down

What have you seen as far as low and high numbers for stock cars?

03 OW SVT
04-16-2011, 03:48 PM
My car is going to the shop (StreetLeathal) on the 25, for some mods. I'll have them post up some bass line #'s on the dyno.