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Pakos7293
04-19-2011, 12:25 PM
Just have my new toy my 2005 mustang but unfortunately it is a v6: ( I'm only 17 years old and can't afford v8 insurance so i got a v6 but to the point i was trying to find the best intake/part to add some power to the Stang. But as i discovered all 2005 mustangs require tuners when adding and swapping most parts. So looking at tuners and intakes combined its 500+ dollars which is alot for me. So any ideas or suggestions to add some power?

SlowSix
04-19-2011, 12:51 PM
Gears ^
Won't add power but will make your car accelerate quicker

Pakos7293
04-19-2011, 01:17 PM
How much do gears usually run and would it need a tune for that?

SonofaBish
04-19-2011, 01:33 PM
How much do gears usually run and would it need a tune for that?
i don't know, as i'm not a hardcore ford guy, but i'd bet gears will run you $300 installed, give or take a bit...

more importantly, if you put gears in it, and don't get a tune, your speedo will be off, so you'll have to go by some of those speed signs to get an idea of how far off yoru speedo is

Pakos7293
04-19-2011, 02:20 PM
So pretty much almost everything I do will require a tuner

SonofaBish
04-19-2011, 02:24 PM
So pretty much almost everything I do will require a tuner
to get teh most out of any modern-day car, you're going to want a tuner....

just save your pennies... its not a cheap hobby... but it'll pay off if you save your money and make the right mods.. don't spend $50 here and $75 there on stupid crap....

Pakos7293
04-19-2011, 02:32 PM
I want stripes and window tint as far as the exterior of my car. And the engine I have no idea. I can't find a good tuner for under 250-300 dollars. If i get a tuner ill probabily get an sct

Black Vert
04-19-2011, 02:47 PM
Get some NOS :3gears:

SAC81
04-19-2011, 03:01 PM
If you actually want to have a quick car and can't afford V8 insurance...save your money (meaning, don't buy stuff like stripes or window tint) until you have enough to buy this:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/xcharger-hi-po-supercharger-0509v6.html

Or this:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/mustang-vortech-supercharger-0506v6.html

...or just leave the car as-is, drive it for a few years, and then buy a GT or something else. Nothing wrong with liking your V6 'Stang and enjoying it, it's definitely a really cool car for a 17 year old...but buying stuff like a CAI and tuner for a sixxer 'Stang is basically a waste of money.

scorpio333
04-19-2011, 03:38 PM
As a fellow V6er my advice is to get an aluminum driveshaft. Don't dyno your car with the stock shaft, they've come apart, look on youtube. From experience there's more noticeable gain by doing this than adding a CAI. Then of course you'll want two wheel spin, so you'll need tracloc. And gears. Two ways to do this:
1. Get the gears and tracloc and get them installed in your 7.5.
2. Find a GT takeoff 8.8 rearend. GT's came stock with the same 3.55, but you may luck out and find one with 3.73 or 4.10. Cost is about the same as having gears installed, I'd say $700.

After that get your CAI//tuner. I went with Demolet, not sure if he's still around I believe he sold the biz.

Just my .02

RedCandyCoyote
04-19-2011, 04:16 PM
i have a cai that doesnt require a tune, my first mod. They are out there you just dont get as much power gain, found a dyno sheet online of the same thing as mine stock and with the intake and it added 7 hp and 7 ft/lbs to it. Next the exhaust is being done this week you can got he cheap route like i am, i got mufflers from a new 5.0 and am having them custom fit, true dual. pipe shop said it would cost between 2-300 for that and i paid 100 for the mufflers slightly used. i was always told intake and exhaust were good things to start with when modifying

Black Vert
04-19-2011, 06:00 PM
i have a cai that doesnt require a tune, my first mod. They are out there you just dont get as much power gain, found a dyno sheet online of the same thing as mine stock and with the intake and it added 7 hp and 7 ft/lbs to it. Next the exhaust is being done this week you can got he cheap route like i am, i got mufflers from a new 5.0 and am having them custom fit, true dual. pipe shop said it would cost between 2-300 for that and i paid 100 for the mufflers slightly used. i was always told intake and exhaust were good things to start with when modifying
Darn I just threw away a bunch of GT mufflers (Roush Takeoffs) had no idea the 6 bangers might want them.

SlowSix
04-19-2011, 08:18 PM
Yup, a lot of 6 guys will use gt take off mufflers/ tailpipes

SonofaBish
04-19-2011, 08:37 PM
If you actually want to have a quick car and can't afford V8 insurance...save your money (meaning, don't buy stuff like stripes or window tint) until you have enough to buy this:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/xcharger-hi-po-supercharger-0509v6.html

Or this:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/mustang-vortech-supercharger-0506v6.html

...or just leave the car as-is, drive it for a few years, and then buy a GT or something else. Nothing wrong with liking your V6 'Stang and enjoying it, it's definitely a really cool car for a 17 year old...but buying stuff like a CAI and tuner for a sixxer 'Stang is basically a waste of money.
i agree with this guy... dont' waste your money until you can buy something that really makes a difference.... and by that time, you might be able to trade up to a V8.... which is going to be the better route anyhow

bluenotch
04-19-2011, 09:12 PM
just enjoy your mustang for now put money back for go fast goodies for later down the road. im only 19 and my notch has me broke cuz once u start spending money on parts and go faster it gets pricey its addicting just some advice

scorpio333
04-19-2011, 09:16 PM
i agree with this guy... dont' waste your money until you can buy something that really makes a difference.... and by that time, you might be able to trade up to a V8.... which is going to be the better route anyhow

I usually don't speak up on the whole V6 vs V8 thing...take the argument to the extreme and don't buy a GT until you can get a GT500, don't buy a GT500 until you can get a Vette, a Porsche, a Lambo...it's endless. These V6's have more power than those 89 Fox's everyone drooled over years ago. Not everyone can afford the GT or it's easier to mod a V6 a little at a time. Better to have the V6 than some Hyundai or Kia or Cobalt, ain't it?

I'd love to have a GT, but for us it wasn't possible at the time and we wanted a Mustang, so V6 over no Mustang won out. Not bitter or anything, it just gets old hearing the 'it's a V6 so don't waste your time'...99% of all car purchases are a losing investment, so just have fun with what you got.

Pakos7293
04-19-2011, 09:53 PM
If you actually want to have a quick car and can't afford V8 insurance...save your money (meaning, don't buy stuff like stripes or window tint) until you have enough to buy this:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/xcharger-hi-po-supercharger-0509v6.html

Or this:
http://www.americanmuscle.com/mustang-vortech-supercharger-0506v6.html

...or just leave the car as-is, drive it for a few years, and then buy a GT or something else. Nothing wrong with liking your V6 'Stang and enjoying it, it's definitely a really cool car for a 17 year old...but buying stuff like a CAI and tuner for a sixxer 'Stang is basically a waste of money.

I wont have 3500 to spend on my car ever hahah. If i did i would buy a supercharger. If i could find a used one for like 2k i would do it for sure but i just don't have that kind of money

Pakos7293
04-19-2011, 10:00 PM
I usually don't speak up on the whole V6 vs V8 thing...take the argument to the extreme and don't buy a GT until you can get a GT500, don't buy a GT500 until you can get a Vette, a Porsche, a Lambo...it's endless. These V6's have more power than those 89 Fox's everyone drooled over years ago. Not everyone can afford the GT or it's easier to mod a V6 a little at a time. Better to have the V6 than some Hyundai or Kia or Cobalt, ain't it?

I'd love to have a GT, but for us it wasn't possible at the time and we wanted a Mustang, so V6 over no Mustang won out. Not bitter or anything, it just gets old hearing the 'it's a V6 so don't waste your time'...99% of all car purchases are a losing investment, so just have fun with what you got.

I 100 percent agree with you. I posted this so i could mod my v6 and make it a little faster then stock nothing insane just looking for a base point. Having a GT is just something that i really doubt will Happen for me. I mean its rare enough that a 17 year old is driving around any kind of 2005 mustang that i paid for myself. Maybe when I'm in my 20's and out of school ill get a gt but for now I'm stuck with my V6 and gonna make the best of it. But I just wanna know the best mods for my v6 so when i have a couple hundred bucks in a few weeks i can get my first parts. The gt takeoffs sound like a good idea

412mustangz
04-19-2011, 10:00 PM
I usually don't speak up on the whole V6 vs V8 thing...take the argument to the extreme and don't buy a GT until you can get a GT500, don't buy a GT500 until you can get a Vette, a Porsche, a Lambo...it's endless. These V6's have more power than those 89 Fox's everyone drooled over years ago. Not everyone can afford the GT or it's easier to mod a V6 a little at a time. Better to have the V6 than some Hyundai or Kia or Cobalt, ain't it?

I'd love to have a GT, but for us it wasn't possible at the time and we wanted a Mustang, so V6 over no Mustang won out. Not bitter or anything, it just gets old hearing the 'it's a V6 so don't waste your time'...99% of all car purchases are a losing investment, so just have fun with what you got.
X2!! Well Said..To the OP, i myself only bought a v6 because I was 18 when i bought it and insurance was rediculous for a GT.. I installed a K&N Typhoon CAI n no tune is needed.

Pakos7293
04-19-2011, 10:18 PM
X2!! Well Said..To the OP, i myself only bought a v6 because I was 18 when i bought it and insurance was rediculous for a GT.. I installed a K&N Typhoon CAI n no tune is needed.

What kind of gains did you get from it?

pop's stang
04-19-2011, 10:24 PM
Cold Air Intake....BBK from American Muscle. $199 no tune. http://www.americanmuscle.com/bbk-2005-v6-cai.html

Here is what it looks like on my 2008 V6.

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee484/PopsStang/radcover.jpg

laz2447
04-19-2011, 11:11 PM
Check out AIRAID'S line of cold air intakes. I personally think the quality and fitment of their kits are better than any of the other brands out there.

Nothing wrong with wanting to modify your car to your taste or style. Have fun with it...but try and set a goal for what you want to do with it before you just start throwing money at it.


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Pakos7293
04-20-2011, 12:37 AM
Did it make a difference? Like could you feel more power after it was installed

pop's stang
04-20-2011, 09:51 AM
Did it make a difference? Like could you feel more power after it was installed

It did make a little difference but not as much as you would hope. I would say the increase was about 10hp. I never put it on the dyno to find out. But it does make a great wine when you step on the gas. LOL

I found this video tip on Cold Air Intakes maybe this will help.


YouTube - Mustang Cold Air Intakes - Why is a Tune Required? Guide Install and Comparison

Pakos7293
04-20-2011, 11:01 AM
Thanks alot man that does help

SonofaBish
04-20-2011, 11:14 AM
I usually don't speak up on the whole V6 vs V8 thing...take the argument to the extreme and don't buy a GT until you can get a GT500, don't buy a GT500 until you can get a Vette, a Porsche, a Lambo...it's endless. These V6's have more power than those 89 Fox's everyone drooled over years ago. Not everyone can afford the GT or it's easier to mod a V6 a little at a time. Better to have the V6 than some Hyundai or Kia or Cobalt, ain't it?

I'd love to have a GT, but for us it wasn't possible at the time and we wanted a Mustang, so V6 over no Mustang won out. Not bitter or anything, it just gets old hearing the 'it's a V6 so don't waste your time'...99% of all car purchases are a losing investment, so just have fun with what you got.
i see what you're saying, and i'm not saying that there's a problem with having a V6, but there's also no problem with just holding out, IF a GT is really what u want..... if you're frugal, smart and can control your money correctly, you might be surprised what you can afford...

I got my first Trans Am (a '94) in 2003 at the age of 18. Once i got into the performance scene, i wanted soo bad to mod the heck out of it to keep up with the LS1 Trans Am's and camaro's... it took a lot of restraint, but i passed on lots of opporunities to mod and go crazy.. all i ever did was put an exhaust on the car.... then, for my 21st birthday I bought my '01 Trans Am......

I'd occasionally get crap from my friends about how i could possibly afford 2 Trans Am's and a sportbike (had a TL1000R) at the same time at age 21.... my answer was always simple... all that money you spend every weekend on going out, drinking, partying, doing stupid crap.... that's my car pmt every month on my '01 .... simple as that... and they'd just have a dumb look on their face - "oh............... ya"

you're still really young - hell, i'm still really young... if there's something you really want, just be patient and smart and you'll hopefully be able to get there....

but, if a V6 is truly what you want (and i'm sure you can't complain about the fuel economy), then there's absoultey no problem with cruising aroudn in a V6..... its a lot better than what i started with... i turned 16 in 2001 and had a '78 Olds Cutlass Brougham.... we called it the "gheto glider"

Pakos7293
04-20-2011, 12:18 PM
i see what you're saying, and i'm not saying that there's a problem with having a V6, but there's also no problem with just holding out, IF a GT is really what u want..... if you're frugal, smart and can control your money correctly, you might be surprised what you can afford...

I got my first Trans Am (a '94) in 2003 at the age of 18. Once i got into the performance scene, i wanted soo bad to mod the heck out of it to keep up with the LS1 Trans Am's and camaro's... it took a lot of restraint, but i passed on lots of opporunities to mod and go crazy.. all i ever did was put an exhaust on the car.... then, for my 21st birthday I bought my '01 Trans Am......

I'd occasionally get crap from my friends about how i could possibly afford 2 Trans Am's and a sportbike (had a TL1000R) at the same time at age 21.... my answer was always simple... all that money you spend every weekend on going out, drinking, partying, doing stupid crap.... that's my car pmt every month on my '01 .... simple as that... and they'd just have a dumb look on their face - "oh............... ya"

you're still really young - hell, i'm still really young... if there's something you really want, just be patient and smart and you'll hopefully be able to get there....

but, if a V6 is truly what you want (and i'm sure you can't complain about the fuel economy), then there's absoultey no problem with cruising aroudn in a V6..... its a lot better than what i started with... i turned 16 in 2001 and had a '78 Olds Cutlass Brougham.... we called it the "gheto glider"

This is actually my second car my first car I bought when I was 15 it was a 98 firebird... V6 of course and it was slowwwww but i loved that car it just got boring so i bought a mustang and i love it

RedCandyCoyote
04-20-2011, 03:09 PM
here is the dyno sheet from that K&N typhoon intake, http://www.knfilters.com/dynocharts/69-3522_dyno.pdf i have the same intake, and if your gonna do an exhaust usually gt takeoffs are the cheaper route, cause they can re use the one side exhaust already.

SAC81
04-20-2011, 04:11 PM
I wasn't at all saying it's a waste of time to modify or enjoy your sixxer. Hell, I've spent countless hours tinkering with my daily driver POS 2003 Monte Carlo that started life as an N/A 200 HP 3.8L slug.

I just think it's a waste of money to buy mods that really won't have any real effect. You can spend $200 on a cold air intake, $300 on a tuner, $700 on a drop out 8.8 w/3.55s and a traction lock, $700 on an aluminum driveshaft, ect and end up spending a few grand in the long term for stuff that really doesn't make much difference....or just save your money, spend it at once on a blower and make a HUGE difference in how the car performs.

My opinion only, it's your money and you can obviously spend it in whatever way makes you happy!

NateSVT
04-20-2011, 04:18 PM
...or just leave the car as-is, drive it for a few years, and then buy a gt or something else. Nothing wrong with liking your v6 'stang and enjoying it, it's definitely a really cool car for a 17 year old...but buying stuff like a cai and tuner for a sixxer 'stang is basically a waste of money.

+10,000

Shorty429
04-20-2011, 07:28 PM
Get it tinted,get your stripes painted on, and do any other visual mods you want. By the time you do that it'll be close to winter, and you'll love the way it looks. Sure, it won't be fast. But let's face it, most kids your age (and my age for that matter being that I'm only 20) think their 97hp civic is a street terror. So it'll still be faster than most your buddies cars, and it'll look sick so they'll all think it is! haha Get some muffler deletes...they're cheap and will make it sound nice.

PS: I'm from GBG so hit me up if you need some help with any installs.

Pakos7293
04-20-2011, 09:03 PM
I might need some help with the stripes installs but I'd like someone with some experience

412mustangz
04-22-2011, 01:07 PM
Get it tinted,get your stripes painted on, and do any other visual mods you want. By the time you do that it'll be close to winter, and you'll love the way it looks. Sure, it won't be fast. But let's face it, most kids your age (and my age for that matter being that I'm only 20) think their 97hp civic is a street terror. So it'll still be faster than most your buddies cars, and it'll look sick so they'll all think it is! haha Get some muffler deletes...they're cheap and will make it sound nice.

PS: I'm from GBG so hit me up if you need some help with any installs.
Kinda like my car..I take it to car shows and get more looks and compliments than most do with v8's or people who have $50,000+ invested in their vehicle

Shorty429
04-22-2011, 03:30 PM
I might need some help with the stripes installs but I'd like someone with some experience

I'd look around if I were you to see whether it's better to do the vinyl stripes or have them painted on.

Pakos7293
04-22-2011, 03:35 PM
I'd look around if I were you to see whether it's better to do the vinyl stripes or have them painted on.

I don't think I have the money to get them painted on

Shorty429
04-22-2011, 05:28 PM
Check with reliable auto in greensburg. They're fixing my dented/rusted/faded hood for under 300. I bet some black stripes would be pretty cheap.

Pakos7293
04-23-2011, 10:23 AM
Is it possible for you to get me a number for that place and ill call them. Are they in downtown greensburg because I've never heard of them

Shorty429
04-23-2011, 07:36 PM
They're right across the road from offut field if you know where that is.

PM sent btw