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mustang50lx
05-31-2011, 08:06 PM
By Frosty Wooldridge

For 15 years, from the mid 1970's to 1990, I worked in Detroit , Michigan . I watched it descend into the abyss of crime, debauchery, gun play, drugs, school truancy, car-jacking, gangs and human depravity. I watched entire city blocks burned out. I watched graffiti explode on buildings, cars, trucks, buses and school yards. Trash everywhere!

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Detroiters walked through it, tossed more into it, and ignored it. Tens of thousands, and then hundreds of thousands today exist on federal welfare, free housing, and food stamps!

With Aid to Dependent Children, minority women birthed eight to 10, and in one case, one woman birthed 24 children as reported by the Detroit Free Press, all on American taxpayer dollars.

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A new child meant a new car payment, new TV, and whatever mom wanted. I saw Lyndon Baines Johnson's 'Great Society' flourish in Detroit . If you give money for doing nothing, you will get more hands out taking money for doing nothing

Mayor Coleman Young, perhaps the most corrupt mayor in America , outside of Richard Daley in Chicago, rode Detroit down to its knees... he set the benchmark for cronyism, incompetence, and arrogance. As a black man, he said, "I am the MFIC." The IC meant "in charge".

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You can figure out the rest; Detroit became a majority black city with 67 percent African-Americans.

As a United Van Lines truck driver for my summer job from teaching math and science, I loaded hundreds of American families into my van for a new life in another city or state.

Detroit plummeted from 1.8 million citizens to 912,000 today. At the same time, legal and illegal immigrants converged on the city, so much so, that Muslims number over 300,000. Mexicans number 400,000 throughout Michigan , but most work in Detroit . As the whites moved out, the Muslims moved in.

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As the crimes became more violent, the whites fled. Finally, unlawful Mexicans moved in at a torrid pace. Detroit suffers so much shoplifting that grocery stores no longer operate in many inner city locations. You could cut the racial tension in the air with a knife! Detroit may be one of our best examples of multiculturalism: pure dislike, and total separation from America .

Today, you hear Muslim calls to worship over the city like a new American Baghdad with hundreds of Islamic mosques in Michigan , paid for by Saudi Arabia oil money. High school flunk out rates reached 76 percent last June, according to NBC's Brian Williams. Classrooms resemble more foreign countries than America . English? Few speak it! The city features a 50 percent illiteracy rate and growing.

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Unemployment hit 28.9 percent in 2009 as the auto industry vacated the city. In Time Magazine's October 4, 2009, "The Tragedy of Detroit: How a great city fell, and how it can rise again," I choked on the writer's description of what happened. "If Detroit had been ravaged by a hurricane, and submerged by a ravenous flood, we'd know a lot more about it," said Daniel Okrent. "If drought and carelessness had spread brush fires across the city, we'd see it on the evening news every night." Earthquake, tornadoes, you name it, if natural disaster had devastated the city that was once the living proof of American prosperity, the rest of the country might take notice.

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But Detroit, once our fourth largest city, now 11th and slipping rapidly, has had no such luck. Its disaster has long been a slow unwinding that seemed to remove it from the rest of the country.

Even the death rattle that in the past year emanated from its signature industry brought more attention to the auto executives than to the people of the city, who had for so long been victimized by their dreadful decision making."





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As Coleman Young's corruption brought the city to its knees, no amount of federal dollars could save the incredible payoffs, kickbacks and illegality permeating his administration. I witnessed the city's death from the seat of my 18-wheeler tractor trailer because I moved people out of every sector of decaying Detroit .

"By any quantifiable standard, the city is on life support. Detroit 's treasury is $300 million short of the funds needed to provide the barest municipal services," Okrent said. "The school system, which six years ago was compelled by the teachers' union to reject a philanthropist's offer of $200 million to build 15 small, independent charter high schools, is in receivership. The murder rate is soaring, and 7 out of 10 remain unsolved. Three years after Katrina devastated New Orleans , unemployment in that city hit a peak of 11%. In Detroit today, the unemployment rate is 28.9%. That's worth spelling out: twenty-eight point nine percent.

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At the end of Okrent's report, and he will write a dozen more about Detroit, he said, "That's because the story of Detroit is not simply one of a great city's collapse, it's also about the erosion of the industries that helped build the country we know today. The ultimate fate of Detroit will reveal much about the character of America in the 21st century.

If what was once the most prosperous manufacturing city in the nation has been brought to its knees, what does that say about our recent past? And if it can't find a way to get up, what does that say about America ?s future?"

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As you read in my book review of Chris Steiner's book,"$20 Per Gallon", the auto industry won't come back. Immigration will keep pouring more and more uneducated third world immigrants from the Middle East into Detroit , thus creating a beachhead for Islamic hegemony in America . If 50 percent illiteracy continues, we will see more homegrown terrorists spawned out of the Muslim ghettos of Detroit . Illiteracy plus Islam equals walking human bombs.

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You have already seen it in Madrid , Spain , London , England and Paris , France with train bombings, subway bombings and riots. As their numbers grow, so will their power to enact their barbaric Sharia Law that negates republican forms of government, first amendment rights, and subjugates women to the lowest rungs on the human ladder. We will see more honor killings by upset husbands, fathers and brothers that demand subjugation by their daughters, sisters and wives. Muslims prefer beheadings of women to scare the hell out of any other members of their sect from straying. Multiculturalism: what a perfect method to kill our language, culture, country and way of life.

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I PRAY EVERYONE THAT READS THIS REALIZES THAT IF WE DON'T STAND UP, AND SCREAM AT WASHINGTON , AND OUR STATE, CITY AND LOCAL LEADERS THIS IS WHAT AWAITS THE REST OF AMERICA . IF YOU FOLLOW THE NEWS AT ALL YOU KNOW THIS HAS HAPPENED IN ENGLAND , FRANCE AND SPAIN .

IF YOU THINK THIS IS JUST A BUNCH OF HOOEY AND YOU FEEL NO DUTY TO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY, THEN I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WILL TAKE FOR YOU TO STAND AND FIGHT.

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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin









































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Ares
05-31-2011, 08:13 PM
Just put up a giant wall around the city and drop the rejects and scum of society there and never look back.

Mark Aubele
05-31-2011, 09:16 PM
Wow, what a massive pile of shit I just wasted 3 minutes reading. Starts anti-black, and ends anti-Muslim. Yep, let's further Americans' ignorance by passing garbage like this around, that will make us all get along so much better.

By the way, the unemployment rate in Detroit is 11.8%, not 28.9% like this "article" suggests. Here, a non-racist link for those who care...

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/michigan/detroit/

Might want to check out some of the "facts" in this stuff before it is posted, or let people know it was written 2 years ago, a whole lot has changed since then.

mustang50lx
05-31-2011, 09:43 PM
Wow, what a massive pile of shit I just wasted 3 minutes reading. Starts anti-black, and ends anti-Muslim. Yep, let's further Americans' ignorance by passing garbage like this around, that will make us all get along so much better.

By the way, the unemployment rate in Detroit is 11.8%, not 28.9% like this "article" suggests. Here, a non-racist link for those who care...

http://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/michigan/detroit/

Might want to check out some of the "facts" in this stuff before it is posted, or let people know it was written 2 years ago, a whole lot has changed since then.

Depending on what you read the unemployment rate in Detroit is between 11 and 50 %. Take out government jobs and it probably is 50%. The point is not to be anti-black or anti muslim but to show how corrupt the government is the city is. What has changed in 2 years in Detroit?

89 vert
05-31-2011, 09:54 PM
YouTube - ‪BURN - A documentary about Detroit firefighters‬‏ This is proof that the city is one of the worst places on earth. I spent time there last year at the f-150 plant, and that is the best thing in Detroit

Mark Aubele
05-31-2011, 10:21 PM
Depending on what you read the unemployment rate in Detroit is between 11 and 50 %. Take out government jobs and it probably is 50%. The point is not to be anti-black or anti muslim but to show how corrupt the government is the city is. What has changed in 2 years in Detroit?

The article basically blamed blacks and Muslims for Detroit's problems, and I don't think that is true in the least. Why would you take out government jobs when figuring out unemployment rates? The unemployment rate here in Pittsburgh would be high as well without government jobs, as it would be anywhere. My problem is people are going to read this, then run and tell their friends that the unemployment rate is 29% in Detroit (it isn't), and that prayer vigils are bringing the city to a halt, while Muslims behead women in the streets. Oh yeah, and Saudi Arabia is funneling money into Detroit as well so they can raise little terrorists. OK.

Point? The article was incredibly misleading, and old as ****.

mustang50lx
05-31-2011, 10:32 PM
The article basically blamed blacks and Muslims for Detroit's problems, and I don't think that is true in the least. Why would you take out government jobs when figuring out unemployment rates? The unemployment rate here in Pittsburgh would be high as well without government jobs, as it would be anywhere. My problem is people are going to read this, then run and tell their friends that the unemployment rate is 29% in Detroit (it isn't), and that prayer vigils are bringing the city to a halt, while Muslims behead women in the streets. Oh yeah, and Saudi Arabia is funneling money into Detroit as well so they can raise little terrorists. OK.

Point? The article was incredibly misleading, and old as ****.

I don't think the article blamed blacks and muslims for Detroit's problems. If thats what you see it's what you see. Detroit has an unusually high amount of government employees compared to other large citys. Detroit could still be strong. The government pushed (Regulated) business out of the city.

Mark Aubele
05-31-2011, 10:54 PM
The government pushed (Regulated) business out of the city.

I can't say I disagree with you on that point.

RSbeast
05-31-2011, 11:54 PM
Lived there for 4 years. 'Devils Night' was a very real thing. City wide arson warnings, patrols. I believe there were some 64 fires in one night back around 2003.

There was alot of very scary, very depressing things in that city. There were also just absolute beacons of hope and some really fun things to do. I lived downtown and had some of the best/worst years of my life there.

Yes, there are Muslim sections, but look to Dearborn and Hamtrammick if you want your mind blown by population... they don't cause much crime outside of their own neighborhood like much inner-city grouping. Mexican town is scary at night; but Sr. Lopez' tacueria (taco-ria) was some of the best mexican food in a very clean and unscrewed with place in the center of the ghetto. Ate hotdogs with some of the strangest people ever at 3am in a downtown Coney Island; the cities first and only. Gobs of the craziest streetracing ever past Hamtrammick off French Rd. religiously at 12-1am on a friday/saturday night. Massive car clubs. Cruising Gratiot, Woodward. Highway pulls on 696. Yeah there's a high population of blacks (duh and not in bad way; although it takes getting used to when YOU are the minority), yes there's problems and places you do NOT want to be. There's genuine activity there and that city is ALIVE. I mean really you can almost feel it once you submerse yourself in it. I HATED Detroit the first year I lived there; I nearly did not want to come home after 4 years. People really do want the city to come back and it's very difficult to watch what goes on. The rich culture there is on another level and amid the (honesty) black on black /gang crime; it can be survivable. Libraries/museums, the street festivals, the gatherings...so pure. I live near Youngstown; you want to see bad; go there. See disgusting acts of violence and no love to bring that sh!th@le back. People who love Detroit will always love Detroit and to those who haven't experienced it (because it really is an experience) will never EVER understand the way they feel.

-Tom

Stroked03Cobra
06-01-2011, 01:52 AM
Just put up a giant wall around the city and drop the rejects and scum of society there and never look back.

Where is the Facebook "Like" icon when you need it? lol

speedracer
06-01-2011, 06:13 AM
All cities are screwed up.

lib88stang
06-01-2011, 09:14 AM
Most of it is because of the minorities, just sayin.

Terminated
06-01-2011, 09:58 AM
I love the city of Detroit, but I think it's more of a fascination. You can see the rich history of the city and how the auto industry built it and how it all went downhill from there. The number of abandoned houses/buildings/warehouses/mansions is absolutely mind boggling.

Mark Aubele
06-01-2011, 01:19 PM
Most of it is because of the minorities, just sayin.

Thanks for the enlightening observation. :thumbsdown:

Terminated
06-01-2011, 01:24 PM
Possibly why there is so much racial tension in said cities?

Mark Aubele
06-01-2011, 01:29 PM
Possibly why there is so much racial tension in said cities?

Every day I ask myself how people in this country can still hate people solely based on the color of their skin, and look around and see that we are moving in the right direction, for the most part. Then I visit SCS, and realize we still have such a long way to go, unfortunately. So much racist garbage on here, I just don't understand it.

mineralrob
06-01-2011, 06:36 PM
Most of it is because of the minorities, just sayin.

:rolleyes:
I've heard alot of nonsense but this is at the top of the list. What amazes/scares me is how small minded some of these so called professional people are. Step outside of the bubble that u live in once in awhile.

jaa55
06-01-2011, 08:40 PM
why cant i see the pictures???

How Much?
06-01-2011, 10:58 PM
Every day I ask myself how people in this country can still hate people solely based on the color of their skin, and look around and see that we are moving in the right direction, for the most part. Then I visit SCS, and realize we still have such a long way to go, unfortunately. So much racist garbage on here, I just don't understand it.
Turn on the news tonight.......You will....

mineralrob
06-01-2011, 11:15 PM
Turn on the news tonight.......You will....

So u base everything u believe off of the media?

How Much?
06-01-2011, 11:22 PM
So u base everything u believe off of the media?
No sir, i dont believe in aliens and jfks ghost was at wendys, im saying the local news

punkbomb138
06-02-2011, 12:40 AM
i know round about where you live tom. dated a girl from canfield for a few yrs. her brother went to the college there and lived in the not so good part of town. he once told me that if something happened there that ems/fire/police would not come in there. and what made it worse was it was near the college. so needless to say i didnt move to youngstown. i like my sheltered life in wv.

speedracer
06-02-2011, 02:28 AM
i like my sheltered life in wv.

living in the sticks FTW lol

punkbomb138
06-02-2011, 03:30 AM
indeed ftw. I didn't know you were on here Greg but I should have figured since you are from pa. I wanna look over your stang sometime when you come down again.

How Much?
06-02-2011, 07:56 AM
i know round about where you live tom. dated a girl from canfield for a few yrs. her brother went to the college there and lived in the not so good part of town. he once told me that if something happened there that ems/fire/police would not come in there. and what made it worse was it was near the college. so needless to say i didnt move to youngstown. i like my sheltered life in wv.
:thmbsup:

Mark Aubele
06-02-2011, 10:29 AM
Turn on the news tonight.......You will....

Whatever. Do you enjoy hating people and blaming the country's problems on skin pigment? Makes it pretty easy to go through life doesn't it?

Watching the news isn't going to make me think any differently, I have heard the same garbage over and over again. You guys all have the same washed up arguments, the same opinions, the same cop out phrase. I am still waiting for someone to say it.

How Much?
06-02-2011, 11:34 AM
Whatever. Do you enjoy hating people and blaming the country's problems on skin pigment? Makes it pretty easy to go through life doesn't it?

Watching the news isn't going to make me think any differently, I have heard the same garbage over and over again. You guys all have the same washed up arguments, the same opinions, the same cop out phrase. I am still waiting for someone to say it. Tell ya what, why dont you go into the hood and see if they wanna be friends??? Betcha change your mind real ****ing fast........

Mark Aubele
06-02-2011, 12:29 PM
Tell ya what, why dont you go into the hood and see if they wanna be friends??? Betcha change your mind real ****ing fast........

Grew up there and sorta live there, try again homie.

lib88stang
06-02-2011, 12:47 PM
I hate all worthless bums, who sell drugs, have a pile of kids they cant take care of , and dont work and live off the government. Regardless of skin color, this type of society is ruining america.

I grew up in brownsville with blacks, mexicans and whites. Most were very poor. The black friends been in and outa jail for drugs, my mexicans for robbing. My white friends grom there work and take care of there families even if they dont make alot of money. And it would have been alot easier for them to steal or sell drugs like the rest of the low income whites, blacks or whatever down there.

mr4teth
06-02-2011, 04:02 PM
.... Never mind

How Much?
06-02-2011, 04:26 PM
ok, you caught me, im a race haten bigot:thmbsup: I see the point of the first post, Each and every person on here is gonna say what they want, do what they want, Thats why this kinda bullshit should NOT be permitted! PERIOD!! Each person believes in what they want, religion, race whatever, i like Mustangs, I like people Who like cars, End of Story!!! So take me any way you want, and let me tell ya, im one of the nicest guys youd ever meet, so there it is, i dont hate BLACK,BROWN, YELLOW ,GRAY whatever color, just Ignorant people who abuse the system!!

How Much?
06-02-2011, 04:26 PM
ok, you caught me, im a race haten bigot:thmbsup: I see the point of the first post, Each and every person on here is gonna say what they want, do what they want, Thats why this kinda bullshit should NOT be permitted! PERIOD!! Each person believes in what they want, religion, race whatever, i like Mustangs, I like people Who like cars, End of Story!!! So take me any way you want, and let me tell ya, im one of the nicest guys youd ever meet, so there it is, i dont hate BLACK,BROWN, YELLOW ,GRAY whatever color, just Ignorant people who abuse the system!!
Homie

Terminated
06-02-2011, 04:27 PM
I don't like black cars.

lib88stang
06-02-2011, 04:28 PM
Ill belive and feel how i want, and like i was raised . No sugar coating it. I gota gey back to work millions on welfare depend on me so they can stay home

mr4teth
06-02-2011, 04:37 PM
ok, you caught me, im a race haten bigot:thmbsup: I see the point of the first post, Each and every person on here is gonna say what they want, do what they want, Thats why this kinda bullshit should NOT be permitted! PERIOD!! Each person believes in what they want, religion, race whatever, i like Mustangs, I like people Who like cars, End of Story!!! So take me any way you want, and let me tell ya, im one of the nicest guys youd ever meet, so there it is, i dont hate BLACK,BROWN, YELLOW ,GRAY whatever color, just Ignorant people who abuse the system!!

I wasn't singling you out ...

I agree this is a Mustang site and I really don't care to debate on this topic. So I humbly withdraw my statement and will now move on to read about MUSTANGS and other Hot Rods!

speedracer
06-02-2011, 04:38 PM
I don't like black cars.

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:)

How Much?
06-02-2011, 04:58 PM
I wasn't singling you out ...

I agree this is a Mustang site and I really don't care to debate on this topic. So I humbly withdraw my statement and will now move on to read about MUSTANGS and other Hot Rods!
Thanks, i didnt think you was:thumbsup: Have fun on here guys, thats what its for!!!

scott5
06-02-2011, 05:28 PM
group hug?

Mark Aubele
06-02-2011, 05:48 PM
I wasn't singling you out ...



He was referring to me.

lib88stang
06-02-2011, 05:56 PM
its over... lock it up

Mark Aubele
06-02-2011, 08:02 PM
^^^ You cared enough to post your opinion.

mr4teth
06-02-2011, 08:35 PM
He was referring to me.


No I was not ..

lib88stang
06-02-2011, 08:36 PM
^^^ You cared enough to post your opinion.

Its a Car site, and its :deadhorse:

Mark Aubele
06-02-2011, 08:47 PM
No I was not ..

Was talking about "How Much?"