22 Navy Seals killed in Afghanistan over the weekend???

[Troll]

rant on ///// it wasn't headline news anywhere. WTF?

so, did you hear about the 22 navy seals that got killed in Afghanistan over the weekend? I did not hear about it until the guy that won the Nascar race said, "I ain't nobody. I just drive race cars. The real heroes are the guys who died in Afghanistan yesterday".

so, I thought, "wtf is he talking about" and I went upstairs and googled it. well, well well it doesn't really come up anywhere except Fox News and it's not the headline story. our government says it was a crash. the Taliban says they shot it down.

story goes like this: army rangers were in a fire fight with Taliban, they radio for help, somebody loads up 22 navy seals and 16 other people on a Chinook helicopter (which goes about 18mph) and flies them over to help real slow like in front of the Taliban and they shoot it down with a freaking RPG. (or it crashed, coincidentally right where the fire fight was --- BS!).

wifey and I just got done watching that HBO mini-series, The Pacific and I'm no damn military strategist, but before you fly a slow helicopter in front of the enemy with back-up aboard, don't you lay down some cover fire??? they had mortars 70 years ago they could hone in with a compass and a protractor. For Christ's sake, we could have probably read off some coordinates on a GPS and sent a rocket from a battleship in the Red Sea 700 miles away and took them out. weren't they showing us video from the Gulf War (1991 - 20 years ago) where we were launching scud missiles 500-1000 miles and hitting intended targets in a 40x40 concrete building???

what am I missing here?

rant off ///////

[03 OW SVT]

Just saw an interview from one of the deceased soldiers wifes on HLN.... Very Heartbreaking.

I still say get our troops out of there and nuke the f*ckers.


Hey Taliban:upyours:

[mustang50lx]

Just saw an interview from one of the deceased soldiers wifes on HLN.... Very Heartbreaking.

I still say get our troops out of there and nuke the f*ckers.


Hey Taliban:upyours:

X2 F#ck with the USA, get nuked. End of story.

[John4cam]

The typical "American" mind set is so pathetic.

[White5.0]

The typical "American" mind set is so pathetic.

The typical "democratic" mind set is so pathetic. So is your smartass comment in this thread. Most of all, so is the link in your sig:pinkthumb:


"oh my we went to the mid east for Oil!" :rolleyes:

18947


We are talking about people who died fighting for YOUR freedom. people getting upset about it is expected, not pathetic.


http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj110/reb48/1499171263lhz20ntvj1bfzxm0.gif

[John4cam]

Don't lump me into one of your little groups. I don't vote because I know theres more to the picture than meets the eye. Demopublicans, republicrats. It's all the same nonsense.

I'm reffering to the nuke statements, which you just may agree with. BTW, how are they fighting for my freedom? Seal the borders, and be done with it. A republican failed to shut down the borders on 9/11...

[White5.0]

I am just going to step down immediately. I HATE political battles. Everyone is always right, Nobody ever wins. I am already done

[John4cam]

I am just going to step down immediately. I HATE political battles. Everyone is always right, Nobody ever wins. I am already done

That was easy.

[Troll]

hmmm... wasn't trying to take it down this road. even though, I don't disagree with nuking everybody west of the international date line, I was more upset with the "typical" BS where our government and military leaders use political correctness to fight a war. I don't think any of our troops should be there. WWI, WWII, the first Gulf War... somebody f'd with us, we got in, kicked asses, got out. that's the way to fight war. war sucks. war is not good. period. BUT, if you have to fight one, do it right. This is like Viet Nam all over again. We're going on 8 1/2 years now.

The point is, 22 of our most elite soldiers were killed because we didn't want to blow the top off that mountainside because there might have been one citizen there. OK, fine, I can accept that, but REALLY? I agree with not blowing up the towns and nuking the whole damn country, but do you really think there's a whole village of women and children holed up with the Taliban in some caves fighting some Army Rangers? WTF?

Fight the war right and get the fux out. Period. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[pRojekt02GT]

hmmm... wasn't trying to take it down this road. even though, I don't disagree with nuking everybody west of the international date line, I was more upset with the "typical" BS where our government and military leaders use political correctness to fight a war. I don't think any of our troops should be there. WWI, WWII, the first Gulf War... somebody f'd with us, we got in, kicked asses, got out. that's the way to fight war. war sucks. war is not good. period. BUT, if you have to fight one, do it right. This is like Viet Nam all over again. We're going on 8 1/2 years now.

The point is, 22 of our most elite soldiers were killed because we didn't want to blow the top off that mountainside because there might have been one citizen there. OK, fine, I can accept that, but REALLY? I agree with not blowing up the towns and nuking the whole damn country, but do you really think there's a whole village of women and children holed up with the Taliban in some caves fighting some Army Rangers? WTF?

Fight the war right and get the fux out. Period. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Will be a very sad, and long time before you see any soldiers out of Iraq/Afghanistan, ect. All of your votes don't matter, whether you vote or not, "they" behind the scenes control it all, and to be completely honest it is extremely fVcking sad to see how people don't understand what's really going on. You aren't too busy to look a little deeper into things than the mainstream media. Morgans, Rotheschilds, ect all have that all taken care of. You hear what they want you to, but did you hear about this crash all that much? No. Exactly.

I give every single man and woman fighting for this country a huge deal of respect, you have a lot of balls to do something like that. But, in all honesty, your really apart of something that is very sickening and inhumane.
You can't control the Elite, nothing you say or do is going to fix ANYTHING of what's going on, this is YEARS UPON YEARS in the making. Knights of the Templar, Masons, all the Round Table groups, Masons, Illuminati. It's no bullsh!t.

Sorry for going off topic, but end rant/.

[John4cam]

hmmm... wasn't trying to take it down this road. even though, I don't disagree with nuking everybody west of the international date line, I was more upset with the "typical" BS where our government and military leaders use political correctness to fight a war. I don't think any of our troops should be there. WWI, WWII, the first Gulf War... somebody f'd with us, we got in, kicked asses, got out. that's the way to fight war. war sucks. war is not good. period. BUT, if you have to fight one, do it right. This is like Viet Nam all over again. We're going on 8 1/2 years now.

The point is, 22 of our most elite soldiers were killed because we didn't want to blow the top off that mountainside because there might have been one citizen there. OK, fine, I can accept that, but REALLY? I agree with not blowing up the towns and nuking the whole damn country, but do you really think there's a whole village of women and children holed up with the Taliban in some caves fighting some Army Rangers? WTF?

Fight the war right and get the fux out. Period. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


It just amazes me that people claim the US is a christian nation. After hearing the typical person speak about war, and massive amounts of civillians should just be eliminated.

[map351]

It just amazes me that people claim the US is a christian nation. After hearing the typical person speak about war, and massive amounts of civillians should just be eliminated.

911 ring a bell?

December 7th, 1941 we were a christian nation, Hiroshima on Monday August 6th 1945 we were a christian nation, Nagasaki on August 9th 1945 we were a christian nation & August 15, Japan announced its surrender.

February 1945 the Germans got there's leveling Dresden they were fast learners too.

Political Correctness killed that crew.

Your enemy only understands overwhelming demoralizing power that's what my 87 year Father told me just yesterday you see on June 6 1944 he was on Omaha Beach taking fire and wounded in action at the Battle of the bulge to protecting your right to state your views.

[White5.0]

911 ring a bell?

December 7th, 1941 we were a christian nation, Hiroshima on Monday August 6th 1945 we were a christian nation, Nagasaki on August 9th 1945 we were a christian nation & August 15, Japan announced its surrender.

February 1945 the Germans got there's leveling Dresden they were fast learners too.

Political Correctness killed that crew.

Your enemy only understands overwhelming demoralizing power that's what my 87 year Father told me just yesterday you see on June 6 1944 he was on Omaha Beach taking fire and wounded in action at the Battle of the bulge to protecting your right to state your views.



:bowing:

[racefan]

911 ring a bell?

December 7th, 1941 we were a christian nation, Hiroshima on Monday August 6th 1945 we were a christian nation, Nagasaki on August 9th 1945 we were a christian nation & August 15, Japan announced its surrender.

February 1945 the Germans got there's leveling Dresden they were fast learners too.

Political Correctness killed that crew.

Your enemy only understands overwhelming demoralizing power that's what my 87 year Father told me just yesterday you see on June 6 1944 he was on Omaha Beach taking fire and wounded in action at the Battle of the bulge to protecting your right to state your views.

You are right on with that!!!! I don't know that 4 cam dude, and the way he spouts his shit, I don't want to know him! If you don't vote than you can't say a frigging thing, and if you are so bad feeling about this place, just shut the funk up and leave!!!!

[03 OW SVT]

It just amazes me that people claim the US is a christian nation. After hearing the typical person speak about war, and massive amounts of civillians should just be eliminated.

Dude, your fighting a loosing battle when it comes to talking about this subject on this board. I'll bet at least 2/3rds of the peeps on hear feel the same way I do. Let me guess, you want us all (the US and Alkida) to sit around a camp fire holding hands and sing Coom-ba-ya.:)

[Quik83Z]

If Bush was still prez, this would have been front-page news on all the liberal media outlets....

Just saying....

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If Bush was still prez, this would have been front-page news on all the liberal media outlets....

Just saying....

The calls for impeachment would ring through the streets!

[John4cam]

911 ring a bell?

December 7th, 1941 we were a christian nation, Hiroshima on Monday August 6th 1945 we were a christian nation, Nagasaki on August 9th 1945 we were a christian nation & August 15, Japan announced its surrender.

February 1945 the Germans got there's leveling Dresden they were fast learners too.

Political Correctness killed that crew.

Your enemy only understands overwhelming demoralizing power that's what my 87 year Father told me just yesterday you see on June 6 1944 he was on Omaha Beach taking fire and wounded in action at the Battle of the bulge to protecting your right to state your views.

I would really like to know what your deffinition of christianity is.



You are right on with that!!!! I don't know that 4 cam dude, and the way he spouts his shit, I don't want to know him! If you don't vote than you can't say a frigging thing, and if you are so bad feeling about this place, just shut the funk up and leave!!!!

Another one who's clinging to mainstream media for "news". I don't vote because I understand how the game is played, and it's not how you think. Hows the president going to change anything when he's just the salesman?


Dude, your fighting a loosing battle when it comes to talking about this subject on this board. I'll bet at least 2/3rds of the peeps on hear feel the same way I do. Let me guess, you want us all (the US and Alkida) to sit around a camp fire holding hands and sing Coom-ba-ya.:)

No, I just don't agree with destroying innocent women and children. I suppose you think nukes are selective in who they kill?

Also...like I care what people on a message forum think of me. Especially if it's because of my political views.:rolleyes:

[Flyin Monkey]

911 ring a bell?

December 7th, 1941 we were a christian nation, Hiroshima on Monday August 6th 1945 we were a christian nation, Nagasaki on August 9th 1945 we were a christian nation & August 15, Japan announced its surrender.

February 1945 the Germans got there's leveling Dresden they were fast learners too.

Political Correctness killed that crew.

Your enemy only understands overwhelming demoralizing power that's what my 87 year Father told me just yesterday you see on June 6 1944 he was on Omaha Beach taking fire and wounded in action at the Battle of the bulge to protecting your right to state your views.

AMEN BROTHER! My father fought in the South Pacific, My Uncle was a POW, captured in Africa. People today take too much for granted. :shoothead:

[blksunshine88]

Rip troops thanks for the ultimate sacrifice.... End

[intel]

This war was never about freedom.

The America you grew up with and learned about is long gone.

Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex, which is now out of control.

You are witnessing the crumbling of an empire full of greed, corruption and fraud.

This is nothing new, history shows it happens over and over and over...

[SAC81]

So we should've smiled and said thanks after we were attacked? Our military action in Afghanistan was and is about protecting our own ass against those who DID and would have continued to attack us.

If I walk up to you and throw a left hook to your jaw, do you just look at me or do you defend yourself?

I can understand the arguments against our military action in Iraq, but it's pretty damn clear cut why we're in Afghanistan.

There's a lot of tin foil being worn in this forum.

[racefan]

I would really like to know what your deffinition of christianity is.




Another one who's clinging to mainstream media for "news". I don't vote because I understand how the game is played, and it's not how you think. Hows the president going to change anything when he's just the salesman?



No, I just don't agree with destroying innocent women and children. I suppose you think nukes are selective in who they kill?

Also...like I care what people on a message forum think of me. Especially if it's because of my political views.:rolleyes:
You are a FUNKING ASSHOLE!!

[Quik83Z]

This war was never about freedom.

The America you grew up with and learned about is long gone.

Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex, which is now out of control.

You are witnessing the crumbling of an empire full of greed, corruption and fraud.

This is nothing new, history shows it happens over and over and over...

Sadly, this is all too true...

[Troll]

So we should've smiled and said thanks after we were attacked? Our military action in Afghanistan was and is about protecting our own ass against those who DID and would have continued to attack us.

If I walk up to you and throw a left hook to your jaw, do you just look at me or do you defend yourself?

I can understand the arguments against our military action in Iraq, but it's pretty damn clear cut why we're in Afghanistan.

There's a lot of tin foil being worn in this forum.

Amen, brother! This is real. Guess what? We haven't been attacked in 10 years. Apparently, chasing those diaper-heads around the desert has kept them from conspiring and planning another 20 million dollar attack on the US.

To all you guys that think you just lucked into your freedom because you were born here: Wasn't NY or even Shanksville close enough for you? Did the terrorists (that hale 99% from Afghanistan) have to hit Canonsburg or Pittsburgh for you to take notice that our country was attacked?

[vitaleffects626]

I love sarris candy

[Mark Aubele]

This war was never about freedom.

The America you grew up with and learned about is long gone.

Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex, which is now out of control.

You are witnessing the crumbling of an empire full of greed, corruption and fraud.

This is nothing new, history shows it happens over and over and over...

Next you will probably tell us that Bush blew up the World Trade Center.

[White5.0]

This war was never about freedom.

The America you grew up with and learned about is long gone.

Eisenhower warned us of the military industrial complex, which is now out of control.

You are witnessing the crumbling of an empire full of greed, corruption and fraud.

This is nothing new, history shows it happens over and over and over...


Ohh yeah we are just CRUMBLING right now! everyone is in grave danger! o my goodness.....


get the fu*k outta here with that BS

[Flyin Monkey]

I love sarris candy

ROFL
:pianodance:

[pRojekt02GT]

Cannot believe the ignorance of this thread. Learn what's goin on around you, stop thinking you know it all because it's what your highschool taught you. They make sure what you read, learn, is what they want you to believe. I'm so glad I'm a little bit more smarter in this matter than some of the folk who've posted here.

[speedracer]

Next you will probably tell us that Bush blew up the World Trade Center.
I love the people that say flight 93 never crashed and was flown away to some secret location :rolleyes:

[83dropboy]

Building 7

Raw Milk is EVIL, GMO food is great.

Fight for the Bill of Rights - that is where our freedoms and liberties are defined!

[Mark Aubele]

I'm so glad I'm a little bit more smarter in this matter than some of the folk who've posted here.

I probably agree with you politically judging by your sig, but that sentence made me ROFL.

[John4cam]

You are a FUNKING ASSHOLE!!

Very thin skin.

[frankstang]

There's a big difference between WWII and all the wars that came after, including Afghanistan & Iraq. Japan and Germany would have ruled the world had they won and changed the American way of life. There was never any chance of that happening in any of the subsequent wars. Our freedoms have never been in danger since WWII from any outside force, therefore none of these wars are about protecting our freedom.

I think the biggest lie that has been sold to the American people is that "they hate and attack us because we are free", I mean really, does anyone believe that ? They hate and attack us because we have been meddling in their countries for decades. They don't like it, just as we wouldn't like it.

Before you start calling people tin hat wearers, remember, Kennedy & Eisenhower warned of a growing power that isn't loyal to the principles of this country, but has the full weight and power of corporations and the military at its disposal. That was 50 years ago. The warnings were not heeded, now our wealth and military are being used to do things that are not in our best interest.

Why are we still in Afghanistan 10 years later ? The only reason to go in was to eradicate the camps that were training militants and capture OBL. Those camps have long ago been destroyed, AlQuaida is gone, and OBL is dead. There are no other connections to 911 left in Afghanistan. We are now fighting the Afghan people who don't want to have a foreign military power in their country. There will never be a military resolution to this war.

Iraq had nada, nil, nothing, zero to do with 911. Bush used the need for retribution for 911 to lie us into that war. Does anyone remember the Colin Powell speech about weapons of mass destruction ? The diagrams and illustrations and phrases like "It is certain", "there is no doubt", "not if, but when they attack" ? All premeditated lies. Does anyone remember that when the Bush administration couldn't get the intelligence community to verify their claims they just opened up their own investigative office to give their stamp of approval to anything and everything that would give justification to attack Iraq ?
Exactly the type of thing Kennedy and Eisenhower were warning us about.

[Troll]

They hate and attack us because we have been meddling in their countries for decades.
ummm... like fighting on their side against Russia?

maybe they got a simple "thank you" mixed up with "let's run some planes into two of their cities".

really?

I assume you think the 9/11 attacks were justified? What should we have done afterwards?

[White5.0]

Why are we still in Afghanistan 10 years later ? The only reason to go in was to eradicate the camps that were training militants and capture OBL. Those camps have long ago been destroyed, AlQuaida is gone, and OBL is dead. There are no other connections to 911 left in Afghanistan. We are now fighting the Afghan people who don't want to have a foreign military power in their country. There will never be a military resolution to this war.


Are you serious? Like honest to God are you serious? We literally JUST killed Bin Laden a few months ago, you are saying that as if we killed him 5 years ago??? and newsflash: there are still terrorists and terrorist groups in Afghanistan. Just cause we killed Bin Laden doesn't mean its over and all the terrorists are just going to never ever do anything again. Those dipshits are on a non-stop suicidal killing spree because of there f'ed up "holy book"


No connections to 911 left? none at all? I HIGHLY doubt that.




Iraq had nada, nil, nothing, zero to do with 911. Bush used the need for retribution for 911 to lie us into that war. Does anyone remember the Colin Powell speech about weapons of mass destruction ? The diagrams and illustrations and phrases like "It is certain", "there is no doubt", "not if, but when they attack" ? All premeditated lies. Does anyone remember that when the Bush administration couldn't get the intelligence community to verify their claims they just opened up their own investigative office to give their stamp of approval to anything and everything that would give justification to attack Iraq ?
Exactly the type of thing Kennedy and Eisenhower were warning us about.

I agree that phrases like "It is certain" etc. were wrong to say, but I don't believe that they lied about the fact that they intially *Thought* there were WMD over there. I believe they seriously thought at one point that there might have been, so I absolutely agree with us going to Iraq INITALLY (because think about if they actually found some! you sure would be glad we went wouldnt you??) , but now we need to just gtfo of there

[White5.0]

I assume you think the 9/11 attacks were justified? What should we have done afterwards?


^^^this.

[83dropboy]

Afghanistan is also known as "The Graveyard of Empires".

The British tried to occupy them - search "Slaughter in the Mountain Passes", only one British Army Surgeon out of approximately 16,000 made it out alive during a retreat.

We all know how it financially helped uproot the Soviet Empire as well.

Our 'in' with the Afghan people seems to be to let them grow opium:

U.S. Soldiers Grow Opium/Heroin Poppy in Afganistan - Fox News - YouTube

The Taliban burnt all the opium fields:

http://opioids.com/afghanistan/index.html

I have an issue with losing troops there, especially when you cite things like this:

"In the aftermath of bin Laden’s death and apparently with the benefit of new intelligence gained in the raid on his compound, the U.S. has determined that eliminating “somewhere around 10 to 20 key leaders” of al-Qaida would cripple the network, Panetta said. Those leaders are in Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia and North Africa, he said."

Whole article here:

http://www.france24.com/en/20110710-us-defence-secretary-first-afghanistan-visit-al-qaeda

I would not question taking out Al-Queda, but I would question why we are still in Afghanistan when all the leaders, as cited from Leon Panetta, and not even there anymore. If they are smart enough to pull off 911, you can bet they are smart enough to get out of dodge when 100,000 troops are hunting them.

The Afghan people have been fighting occupation for centuries. Look at their history. The copter could have been brought down from an various insurgent group, not necessarily Al-Queda or the Taliban. Of course the Taliban will take credit, but they would take credit for the Kennedy assassination if you let them.


Looks like we got the guy who shot it down today:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903918104576500152576543210.html

[racefan]

Very thin skin.

I will be at PRP tonight, come and tell me in person. My name is Lou SR.
Viet Nam Combat Vet with a very bad Temper!!!,,,,,,

[frankstang]

Don't put words in my mouth. I never said I thought 911 was justified and you're an ass for assuming I do.
What should we have done after 911 ?
Gone to Afghanistan, closed down the training camps, found OBL, and killed any AlQuaida we found, then we should have left behind a small force to be sure none of the above returned.
Second, we should have gone into SaudiArabia (where most of the hijackers were from) and found all the financial backers of militant Islamists, and told the Saudi government that they better wise up and end the anti western BS.
Third, there should have been a serious investigation about why numerous investigations were shut down pre 911 when they got anywhere near the cells that were involved. I don't have time to find links, but, since many of you will think this is BS, search John Oneal FBI, search AbleDanger Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, there are others I can't think of at the moment.
I would have done a serious investigation about how hijackers who were already on terror watch lists were able to get visas to enter the U.S. http://deadlinelive.info/2011/02/08/j-michael-springmann-911-whistle-blower-us-state-dept-knowingly-gave-visas-to-terrorists/
I would have done other things like bolster intelligence to find any future threats, but what I would not have done is misdirect our military to Iraq, I would not have passed the Patriot Act, I would not have scooped up thousands of mideastern people without charges and warehoused them for years only to end up releasing the vast majority of them because there was no reason to hold them in the first place.
The list goes on.

[White5.0]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission_Report

^your investigation

[intel]

Row the world and home again, that's the sailors way!
There's no earthly way of knowing
Which direction we are going
There's no knowing where we're rowing
Or which way the river's flowing
Is it raining, is it snowing, is a hurricane a blowing
Mah! Not a speck of light is showing
For the danger must be growing
Are the fires of hell a glowing
Is the grisly reaper mowing
Yes! The danger must be growing
For the rowers keep on rowing
And they're certainly not showing
Any signs that they are slowing!
Agh!

- Willy Wonka

[vitaleffects626]

I wonder who's gonna be kicked off big brother tonite I hope Rachel

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I wonder who's gonna be kicked off big brother tonite I hope Rachel

I was wondering the same thing!

[SAC81]

Not Rachel- the military industrial complex finds it most beneficial that she stays at this point. Her fate will be decided later, when the Illuminati and the Freemasons convene at a secret world domination council that's being held later this month.

How do I know all this? I read it on the internet.

[frankstang]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_Commission_Report

^your investigation
I guess you missed the word I used in front of investigation....."serious".

[pRojekt02GT]

I guess you missed the word I used in front of investigation....."serious".

:goodidea:

[White5.0]

I guess you missed the word I used in front of investigation....."serious".


thats funny. did you even read it?

[frankstang]

thats funny. did you even read it?

Never from beginning to end, but a section here and a section there.

[John4cam]

I will be at PRP tonight, come and tell me in person. My name is Lou SR.
Viet Nam Combat Vet with a very bad Temper!!!,,,,,,


You fought in another war based on lies just so you know.

BTW, i'm no pushover. i'm 5'3" and play tennis. Plus im an internet toughguy.

[Troll]

You fought in another war based on lies just so you know.
that's just wrong, dude. he was probably a kid and didn't have many options. he chose to join the military and do what was right for his country (in his 18 year old mind). he didn't set the f*cking foreign policy. now, 40 years later, you're going to mock him for serving YOUR country. my old man was in Viet Nam, also. he joined when he was 17 and didn't have many options, so as opposed to living a life of crime or working at McDonalds he decided to fight communist aggression in southeast Asia. that's what the navy recruiter told him.

Fine, you don't agree with America's foreign policy, you don't agree with war in general, whatevs bltch.

You're lower than the people with the bumper sticker that says, "I SUPPORT THE TROOPS, NOT THE CAUSE".

You don't even support the troops!!!

Lou SR is right.... you are a funking a$$hole.

[AutomagicSN98]

^This.

[John4cam]

that's just wrong, dude. he was probably a kid and didn't have many options. he chose to join the military and do what was right for his country (in his 18 year old mind). he didn't set the f*cking foreign policy. now, 40 years later, you're going to mock him for serving YOUR country. my old man was in Viet Nam, also. he joined when he was 17 and didn't have many options, so as opposed to living a life of crime or working at McDonalds he decided to fight communist aggression in southeast Asia. that's what the navy recruiter told him.

Fine, you don't agree with America's foreign policy, you don't agree with war in general, whatevs bltch.

You're lower than the people with the bumper sticker that says, "I SUPPORT THE TROOPS, NOT THE CAUSE".

You don't even support the troops!!!

Lou SR is right.... you are a funking a$$hole.


It takes all kinds bud.

[Flyin Monkey]

That's the first thing you have posted that I can agree with you on.