Tricky cops

[venom]

I'm sure other townships have this, but my township (North Fayette) loves their new speed trap. It's two photo-eyes sitting real low on a stand shooting across the street. The cops can monitor the switches remotely in their car. Sneaky sneaky.

Be careful in N. Fayette.

[Quik83Z]

Citations issued with this system have been thrown out of court when it has been tried in other townships in the area. Evidently there is still some old, ancient law on the books in PA, that only allows PSP to use electronic devices to issue speeding citations.

Unless this has changed recently, I would fight any citation issued using this system.

[PaxtonShelby]

I've seen that used in Moon Twp - maybe a year ago - but have not seen it since. I think it is complete BS. Instead of using these things just to generate revenue, the police should sit in plain sight. That way, instead of 15 people getting tickets one night, 1000 cars will actually SLOW DOWN when they SEE the police sitting there. After all, that is the true goal - to slow people down and make the roads safer.

[Stangman701]

I'm sure other townships have this, but my township (North Fayette) loves their new speed trap. It's two photo-eyes sitting real low on a stand shooting across the street. The cops can monitor the switches remotely in their car. Sneaky sneaky.

Be careful in N. Fayette.

Where did you see these at?


I've seen that used in Moon Twp - maybe a year ago - but have not seen it since. I think it is complete BS. Instead of using these things just to generate revenue, the police should sit in plain sight. That way, instead of 15 people getting tickets one night, 1000 cars will actually SLOW DOWN when they SEE the police sitting there. After all, that is the true goal - to slow people down and make the roads safer.

Very good point.

[bgblockelcamino]

where is the new speed trap? i go through N fayette everyday.

[venom]

They have been targeting North branch road the last few weeks.

I guess the thing I don't like is that it requires two officers to be there...one to monitor and one to chase. For a small community, to have two officers sitting in one area seems like a waste.

[somethingclever]

Saw this last week in N. Strabane....complete BS....

[Quik83Z]

I've seen that used in Moon Twp - maybe a year ago - but have not seen it since. I think it is complete BS. Instead of using these things just to generate revenue, the police should sit in plain sight. That way, instead of 15 people getting tickets one night, 1000 cars will actually SLOW DOWN when they SEE the police sitting there. After all, that is the true goal - to slow people down and make the roads safer.

Yeah, Moon tried it, but all the citations they issued got thrown out of court....thus they quit using it.

[Cam99]

I've seen that used in Moon Twp - maybe a year ago - but have not seen it since. I think it is complete BS. Instead of using these things just to generate revenue, the police should sit in plain sight. That way, instead of 15 people getting tickets one night, 1000 cars will actually SLOW DOWN when they SEE the police sitting there. After all, that is the true goal - to slow people down and make the roads safer.

Cops are nothing but revenue collectors.

[03 OW SVT]

Cops should not be allowed to hide. To me it is entrapment. They have radar and laser that can detect speed from like a mile away, what do they need to hide for. I know in Ohio, they used to have to be in plain view, and not hide. I'm not sure if it's still that way or not.

[Mark Aubele]

I got nailed in White Oak a couple years ago to a similar "two officer" setup. One timing, one sitting further up the road pulled me over. Wonder if it was the same thing? Got it reduced to 5 over no points (in court), so no big deal, cop was pretty cool.

[Stangman701]

Not to sound too hypocritical, but if you're speeding you are technically breaking the law. I don't mind seeing cops hiding or using means like this to catch people. We all know that we're taking a risk of getting caught when we speed. Do I think there are better ways for them to spend their time? Of course, but the speed limits are there for a reason.

That being said, I do regularly go 5-10 over and way over the limit for short periods of time on occasion. I know I'm taking a risk, and if I get caught then I can't really bitch about it too much. Saying they need to be out in plain sight is kind of like saying that they can't do undercover investigations or surveillance on "actual" criminals. Usually when they're out in plain sight they're around a bend in the road or something where you can't see them till you pass them anyways so that's sort of like hiding. I doubt there are too many people that are going to blatantly blow past a cop at 90 MPH.

[thedak]

I'm very entertained with this thread.

[03 OW SVT]

I'm very entertained with this thread.

I figured you would be. I new if you saw this thread you would reply. Haven't seen you on here much lately. Saw your father-in-law yest. at the cruise and he said you've been working alot of O.T

[thedak]

Yeah

Been hoarding all the taxpayer money I can get my hands on.

I'll be up at Starlite this Friday. Maybe I'll see you up there.

[How Much?]

Well, it IS there job, and some are Cool and really nice, some are dicks, but just imagine for a minute you were in there shoes......all the crap they gotta deal with, all the excuses, all the crazies and people that would take there life without giving it a second thought,,,,, Imagine how many speeding stops actually gets rid of alotta that kinda stuff, people carrying drugs, or drinking,,,,,keeps things a little safer,,,, and who cares if they are not in plain sight, if they were, no one would ever get stopped, they would all be on there best behavior..... Im no stranger to traffic citations, but I was wrong, yea, i was like F$%@ i just got it again, but , i made the choice to speed, And then got caught.... Screw it, just obey the limit and you will be fine, Its there for a reason:thumbsup:

[Mitternacht]

They've been doing that here around the McKeesport/White Oak area for about 2 years. They went as far as using a 1990 Chevy Lumina Euro as a cop car to pull people over.

[03 OW SVT]

Yeah

Been hoarding all the taxpayer money I can get my hands on.

I'll be up at Starlite this Friday. Maybe I'll see you up there.

Cool! You bringing the Stang or the Goat?

I certaintly respect what they do, i could never be a policeman. I just think that sometimes some of them abuse and take advantage of there authority....Case in point: There was one local yokel several years ago that used to pull people over just for having there Fog lights on. I was one of those people.

[pRojekt02GT]

They've been doing that here around the McKeesport/White Oak area for about 2 years. They went as far as using a 1990 Chevy Lumina Euro as a cop car to pull people over.

speaking of this thread, I got pulled over this morning about 720 in white oak, at lincoln way and 48. said my exhaust was too loud, lol. I was like Dude look at the truck, im scrapping it at the end of sept. was pretty funny, just a warning though.

[Mitternacht]

speaking of this thread, I got pulled over this morning about 720 in white oak, at lincoln way and 48. said my exhaust was too loud, lol. I was like Dude look at the truck, im scrapping it at the end of sept. was pretty funny, just a warning though.

Yea lately they've been touchy. They seem like the past couple days like they've been scouting that intersection; one sitting there and 3 driving around the area.

[Stroked03Cobra]

I am just glad that Pa does not have rolling radar yet...

[Mitternacht]

...yet? That's not good.

[PaxtonShelby]

I agree on the rolling radar - when I used to drive thru Ohio all the time, I really had to stay on the ball if I wanted to make good time. These days I just take it easy rather than risk a big ticket.

[thedak]

Cool! You bringing the Stang or the Goat?



Neither

Traded the 5.0 in about 3 weeks ago.

In the process of parting the GTO out as well.

I'll be riding shotgun with Charlie.

[Snakecharmer383]

Being a LEO I'll not take any of this personal. :goodidea:

[Steve-0]

Neither

Traded the 5.0 in about 3 weeks ago.

In the process of parting the GTO out as well.

I'll be riding shotgun with Charlie.

C6z?

[scorpio333]

If the point is to slow people down then they shouldn't hide. It's completely effective to put a car on the side of the road and everyone slows down. Hell, put the lights on and traffic will creep to a near stop. I recall a few yrs ago someone got a ticket for flashing their lights warning oncoming traffic about a speed trap. The ticket got thrown out due to the flasher effectively slowing oncoming traffic.

I live on a 25mph superspeedway thoroughfare...they can hide in my driveway any day. Yes, that is hypocritical but isn't that the way it goes nowadays.

[Mark Aubele]

I live on a 25mph superspeedway thoroughfare...they can hide in my driveway any day. Yes, that is hypocritical but isn't that the way it goes nowadays.

I agree with this. I don't understand how they (in my town) pull people over for going 10 over in a 2 lane 35 zone, while there are idiots blowing the stop sign in front of my house at 40 mph (where kids are playing). The same idiots driving down RT. 30 at 30 mph in the left lane are the same ones flying down my little street.

[Terminated]

Anytime I've been hassled by the fuzz, it was in response to doing something illegal (redlights, stop signs, etc) and I've been treated fairly by every one of them. They're just doing their job like anyone else and, some do it worse than others. However, I won't complain about speed traps, the speed limit is the speed limit, I'll just save my high speed antics for closed courses.

[thedak]

C6z?


Bought a 2011 Ford F-150 Lariat Limited

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[Silverhatch]

If the point is to slow people down then they shouldn't hide. It's completely effective to put a car on the side of the road and everyone slows down. Hell, put the lights on and traffic will creep to a near stop.
It would work everywhere, but revenue is number one priority. Why do you think 99 out of 100 times the points are dropped on a ticket?

[03 OW SVT]

Bought a 2011 Ford F-150 Lariat Limited

#2615 of 3700



Nice looking truck Matt:thumbsup:

[u1arunit]

Nice looking truck Matt:thumbsup:

I agree! :awsome:

[pRojekt02GT]

Nice!

back to my comment about White oak pulling me over..noticed my tail pipe is hanging down, rusted to piss and back..no wonder why its so loud and i got pulled over. haha.

[Dan B.]

Local cops are a huge drag on municipal budgets.......I know, I work with municipalities daily to handle financial issues. With all their equipment and training local cops can bury a local govt quickly. The least they could do is attempt to cover their costs with honest tickets that would hold up in court and not another gadget at taxpayers expense.

On another note, PennDOT is considering using speed sensing camera devices in constructions zones and running 24hr surveilance.

[Mitternacht]

Local cops are a huge drag on municipal budgets.......I know, I work with municipalities daily to handle financial issues. With all their equipment and training local cops can bury a local govt quickly. The least they could do is attempt to cover their costs with honest tickets that would hold up in court and not another gadget at taxpayers expense.

On another note, PennDOT is considering using speed sensing camera devices in constructions zones and running 24hr surveilance.

Nice, so we gotta do 40 on the highway. When no one's working.

[03 OW SVT]

Nice, so we gotta do 40 on the highway. When no one's working.

One of the many reasons people hate this freakin state.

[thedak]

Motoring public has it about as easy as it gets in PA.

Only State Police can have RADAR. We have no LIDAR or Moving RADAR.

Locals can only enforce timed speed enforcement.

I have no clue how people get caught speeding.

Look at the freaking white lines on the roadway.

If you see some slow the F down.

[Shorty429]

I have no clue how people get caught speeding.

Look at the freaking white lines on the roadway.

If you see some slow the F down.


I saw the white lines on an unfamiliar road one time where I was doing 40 in a 25. When I saw the cop I jammed the brakes and slowed wayyyy down. The officer pulled me over just to say "touché" and told me to slow down lol

[Troll]

What did I miss between 6:09 and 8:06? :rofl: