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mkwood4
12-15-2011, 07:12 PM
I know someone on here got to know how much and were you can get a dyno run. I have a 91 foxbody and the 400hp thread made me think what my car has. i just put new bearings and oil pump in the bottom end have ford racing alum heads 64cc ford racing e303 cam and a bbk ssi intake. 373 gears in the rear and a 100 shot of nitrous. i dont think im close to 400. i dont even know a ball park of were im at. any ideas?? anyone have a the same kind of set up and got it dynoed?
PaxtonShelby
12-15-2011, 07:16 PM
Mike at Wolfpack Speed on Campbells Run has a dyno - that's about as close to home as it gets.
tylerstepp
12-15-2011, 07:46 PM
Mike it might be a little while away but Im thinking Dyno Day !!!
cemnt guy
12-15-2011, 09:23 PM
this kinda sounds like the randy jacksons white fox on passtime that ran 8.70s, :rofl:
silvernotch
12-15-2011, 09:29 PM
I dont think mike messes with push rod cars anymore.
Wolfpack Speed
12-15-2011, 10:32 PM
I dont think mike messes with push rod cars anymore.
The only thing we don't do with push rod cars is custom tuning:awsome:
BigMack2012Gt
12-16-2011, 05:25 AM
Here is a list/location of ones i can think of off the top of my head.
WolfPack Speed - Pittsburgh, PA - Dynojet
Jsdyno - Verona,pa - Awd Mustang Dyno
FjPerformance - Delmont,pa - Dynojet
Tpg Tuning - Wyotech blairsville,pa - Awd Dynojet
********** - McClellandtown Pa - Mustang Dyno
OstDyno - Portersville, PA - Mustang Dyno
Pittsburgh Performance - Clairton,pa - Dynojet
I have been to jsdyno, fjperformance, and pittsburgh performance. All were great places. I will say this. The dynos are more of a tool to show gains from mods than anything. In my experience Mustang dynos read lower than dynojets so if your going for bigger numbers go dynojet :)
Dan B.
12-16-2011, 05:36 AM
There a little garage in Sarver that has a dyno also....I've been by it a lot for work but don't know the name.
Has anyone ever used the dyno at Wyotech?
scott5
12-16-2011, 06:16 AM
I wouldnt mind using an awd to see wat the ss would do
There a little garage in Sarver that has a dyno also....I've been by it a lot for work but don't know the name.
Has anyone ever used the dyno at Wyotech?
Yup, right on 228. Just past where you make the left at the intersection bu jacks ford dealership. Can't miss the huge sign and rubber on the street. I pass it every friday taking my son to lernerville.
mkwood4
12-16-2011, 08:00 AM
hey thanks alot guys. i will look into it. i know it wont be big numbers but i just want to see where im at with what i did so far. i have a twin turbo kit for it and before i did that i wanted some starter numbers. i will update everyone when i get it done. thanks again!
BigMack2012Gt
12-16-2011, 08:11 AM
I know a lot of Evo. Wrx. and sti guys that have used wyotech's dyno but thats about it. Nate from Slowboyracing is the tuner there. He now owns Tpg tuning. He tunes more out of JsDyno now i believe.
mkwood4
12-16-2011, 09:56 AM
no ballpark prices to get it done? or does it change and should just start calling around
SonofaBish
12-16-2011, 10:32 AM
I know a lot of Evo. Wrx. and sti guys that have used wyotech's dyno but thats about it. Nate from Slowboyracing is the tuner there. He now owns Tpg tuning. He tunes more out of JsDyno now i believe.
That is correct... Nate tuned my car at Wyotech back in 2007 or 2008, and now just tuned it again last week at J&S... J&S reads VERY low - they said 22% lower than a Dynojet - but Mustang dyno's are supposed to be better tuning tools... They said i was only the second car to break 600rwhp on the J&S dyno (a GT-R broke 700 recently) .. on one pull we were over 700rwhp at 4500rpms when he let out, but that was at 16psi, which is more than I want to run
SonofaBish
12-16-2011, 10:34 AM
no ballpark prices to get it done? or does it change and should just start calling around
i think most places are going to charge around $100 per hour to tune your own car on their dyno... Wolfpack, for example, has a tuner that can come in, and i'm sure its some sort of package deal....
Also, if ur just getting power pulls, its usually something like $50 for 3 pulls or something - maybe a little more
StreetLethal
12-16-2011, 10:54 AM
We charge 75.00 for four power pulls with a cool down between pulls.
BigMack2012Gt
12-16-2011, 11:49 AM
That is correct... Nate tuned my car at Wyotech back in 2007 or 2008, and now just tuned it again last week at J&S... J&S reads VERY low - they said 22% lower than a Dynojet - but Mustang dyno's are supposed to be better tuning tools... They said i was only the second car to break 600rwhp on the J&S dyno (a GT-R broke 700 recently) .. on one pull we were over 700rwhp at 4500rpms when he let out, but that was at 16psi, which is more than I want to run
Haha ya it reads pretty low. That gtr had the 900hp kit on it i believe so that goes to show you how low that thing reads. It was definately a heartbreaker when i was on there as well.
Jsdyno:
2012 Mustang Gt auto Dyno Run - YouTube
We couldn't lock out 4th due to not having an sct so we just did it in third. Normal mustang dynos are around 320hp/300hp for stock 2012 5.0's. That thing read 306/293. I was at a dynojet two weeks later for a dyno day and put down 367/336.
FjPerformance.
2012 Mustang Gt auto Dyno - YouTube
I can't wait to get some FI on this bad boy :)
mkwood4
12-16-2011, 02:40 PM
hey thanks. thats pretty cheap.
Hawkeye
12-16-2011, 02:55 PM
The only thing we don't do with push rod cars is custom tuning:awsome:
Here is a list/location of ones i can think of off the top of my head.
WolfPack Speed - Pittsburgh, PA - Dynojet
Jsdyno - Verona,pa - Awd Mustang Dyno
FjPerformance - Delmont,pa - Dynojet
Tpg Tuning - Wyotech blairsville,pa - Awd Dynojet
********** - McClellandtown Pa - Mustang Dyno
OstDyno - Portersville, PA - Mustang Dyno
Pittsburgh Performance - Clairton,pa - Dynojet
I have been to jsdyno, fjperformance, and pittsburgh performance. All were great places. I will say this. The dynos are more of a tool to show gains from mods than anything. In my experience Mustang dynos read lower than dynojets so if your going for bigger numbers go dynojet :)
I need to get mine tuned as well.
I would prefer to take to Mike, but he doesn't tune carbs.
Who is the best CARB guy here and I want to stay as close to the east side of Pittsburgh as possible.
I know of the "uniontown guy", but I have heard some really bad stories of cars being not taken care of while they were down their. (just leave it at that, don't want to start sH*t on rumors)
Any good, and I mean GOOD carb guys out there? Could care less about the numbers, just want a safe A/F ratio.
cemnt guy
12-16-2011, 03:43 PM
my brother in law took a carbed chevy to streetlethal last year after he rebuilt it because he just couldnt get it right. in his own words the car runs perfect now.:twocents: now i only beat him by 4 car lengths:rofl:
ccoyle0103
12-17-2011, 09:14 AM
my brother in law took a carbed chevy to streetlethal last year after he rebuilt it because he just couldnt get it right. in his own words the car runs perfect now.:twocents: now i only beat him by 4 car lengths:rofl:Thats in the Alero right Rich?....Lol
cemnt guy
12-17-2011, 09:23 AM
wifes tahoe!:biglaugh: no motor in fox right now .
NateSVT
12-17-2011, 11:03 AM
They said i was only the second car to break 600rwhp on the J&S dyno (a GT-R broke 700 recently) .. on one pull we were over 700rwhp at 4500rpms when he let out, but that was at 16psi, which is more than I want to run
I know of at least 6 cars that made over 600whp at JS Dyno and one of them was over 1000hp. Sick numbers though.:awsome:
SonofaBish
12-17-2011, 11:24 AM
I know of at least 6 cars that made over 600whp at JS Dyno and one of them was over 1000hp. Sick numbers though.:awsome:
thats' what i've recently found out :dunno: that's just what the guy told me that day - maybe i misunderstood him or something... regardless, it definitely reads very low
Balaska347
12-19-2011, 06:24 PM
As for hearing stories and rumors about shops, there is probably a story about every shop on that list. As for the shop in "Uniontown", I leave my car there all the time without worry and I dont trust anyone, that says a lot.
Dan B.
12-19-2011, 07:16 PM
As for the shop in "Uniontown".....
I was by there last month.....had some very sick looking rides setting around.
ModularMike
12-19-2011, 10:46 PM
My stanger was on both Wolfpack's DynoJet and JS Dyno's Mustang dyno. The only difference from the dyno runs is I replaced my 3.27 gears with 4.10s before I went on JS dyno. The numbers were within 6 horsepower difference. 208rwhp vs 202rwhp.
Different days, different times, different operator, it all makes a difference. A dyno is a tuning tool.
Martin0660
12-19-2011, 11:16 PM
A dyno is a tuning tool.
Who needs a tune ? (you knew it was coming) ;)
PaxtonShelby
12-20-2011, 12:46 AM
...oh man...
Balaska347
12-20-2011, 11:22 AM
My stanger was on both Wolfpack's DynoJet and JS Dyno's Mustang dyno. The only difference from the dyno runs is I replaced my 3.27 gears with 4.10s before I went on JS dyno. The numbers were within 6 horsepower difference. 208rwhp vs 202rwhp.
Different days, different times, different operator, it all makes a difference. A dyno is a tuning tool.
Exactly, thats why I get a kick out of it when people claim a dyno reads low. If you notice, people dont ever say a dyno reads high. Maybe the ones that read high are false, no one knows, we just cant imagine that our car made less HP then we thought lol.
SonofaBish
12-20-2011, 12:35 PM
Exactly, thats why I get a kick out of it when people claim a dyno reads low. If you notice, people dont ever say a dyno reads high. Maybe the ones that read high are false, no one knows, we just cant imagine that our car made less HP then we thought lol.
i assume this is partially pointed toward my comments above... and you get a kick out of it all you want... all i can say is from my personal experience - that my car feels much stronger than it did before... yet, at J&S dyno, put down over 100hp less than what the car made previously at Wyotech (on less boost nonetheless)... Furthermore, just going off what the dyno operator told me, having quite a few guys go directly to a dynojet the same day.. BickMack2012 has shown us a good example, even though it was on different days...
However, there's no arguing exactly whats been stated multiple times in this thread about the primary relavance of a dyno... myself, I'm not concerned with the number... i'm more interested in guaranteeing that i have a reliable tune, elminating (or ateast reducing to the highest possible extend) any detonation that could result in a mechanical failure... I don't race my car at the track, nor do i really go to any car shows... so numbers, regardless of type, are not something that has much relavance to me... its more about the thrill you get when you press the right pedal...
Wolfpack Speed
12-20-2011, 12:49 PM
Dyno's are all about repeatability. Those who cant understand that need to pack it in. There is nothing wrong with a Mustang dyno as long as it's calibrated and used properly. Problem is most Mustang dyno owners/operators don't have a clue. This is why the Dynojet is the industry standard, it's pretty much idiot proof and as repeatable as it gets. How deflated or inflated the results are is irrelevant. Like Modular Mike said, it's a tool, one that can be used for many different things, not just tuning.
BigMack2012Gt
12-20-2011, 01:37 PM
BickMack2012 has shown us a good example, even though it was on different days...
Mine was dynoed in different gears since we weren't able to lock out 4th at jsdyno. That being said even if it were dynoed in fourth at jsdyno i would of only picked up 20hp probably so i would of still been off 30-40hp from the dynojet. It was cooler the day i was on the dynojet so im sure that helped a bit. Mike was at jsdyno before the recalibration. I know for a fact there dyno is fully calibrated and someone was on the dyno right before and right after and it read lower after. But as stated its for tuning and finding out gains from mods. I just wanted to get a dyno number in the right gear since i will be checking gains from all my mods as i progress. Thats why i went to get it checked for a fourth gear pull since it would be closest to the 6r80 1:1. I have an o/r hpipe and tuner coming with a email tune already loaded onto it from a custom tuner So ill be getting the car dynoed to make sure the a/f ratio on the tune is good and ill post the results then. I'm about halfway saved up for my Forced induction so ill be taking my car to Wolfpack once i get it all installed so i can get a remote dyno tune from lund. Unless they give me a good price on the install then ill be paying them to install and tune it ;)
Basically if your wanting to get your car dynoed to show gains and make sure its safe to drive like me who dailys my car. I would pick one dyno and stick with it.
Balaska347
12-20-2011, 02:50 PM
i assume this is partially pointed toward my comments above... and you get a kick out of it all you want... all i can say is from my personal experience - that my car feels much stronger than it did before... yet, at J&S dyno, put down over 100hp less than what the car made previously at Wyotech (on less boost nonetheless)... Furthermore, just going off what the dyno operator told me, having quite a few guys go directly to a dynojet the same day.. BickMack2012 has shown us a good example, even though it was on different days...
However, there's no arguing exactly whats been stated multiple times in this thread about the primary relavance of a dyno... myself, I'm not concerned with the number... i'm more interested in guaranteeing that i have a reliable tune, elminating (or ateast reducing to the highest possible extend) any detonation that could result in a mechanical failure... I don't race my car at the track, nor do i really go to any car shows... so numbers, regardless of type, are not something that has much relavance to me... its more about the thrill you get when you press the right pedal...
No, my post was not directed to you or anyone else that posted. I was agreeing with what ModularMike posted and adding a little to it. I read it all the time about this dyno and that dyno and thats what I get a kick out of and that no one ever says a dyno reads high its always the one reads low. Like it was said above its about repeatability. There is so much that can affect the numbers other then the machine itself. I have seen a big difference in numbers from a different person making the pull. Same day, time, car, machine etc, just change drivers and saw a very significant change.
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