Winter Capri Upgrades

[Martin0660]

That Time of year again ... After a really great season ...

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[Martin0660]

Rather "short" upgrade list this year ...

New Short Block - I have actually had the parts for this at the machine shop for some time. Everything inside the block will be new, no compormise build with the best parts I can put in there.

New Clutch set-up - We now haw an option to adapt a 5.0 clutch set-up to the 2.3, Canfield Industries is making an adapter plate, Spec is making a 5.0 flywheel with the 2.3 pattern, then it's just 5.0 clutch and bell stuff ... not a cheap option, but frankly I'm tired of clutch swaps :(

New Exhaust - My down ipe will need re-made because of the much larger bell housing and everything has been chopped up with combo changes over the years. Since I have ot redo the down pipe, it's all getting done over.

Refresh my G Force - Transmission worked flawless most of the season. 2nd gear synvhro is now a little crunchy and it needs some attention around third gear as well. Bascially freshen it with new synchro's plus a few upgrade parts that are new(er) to the market.

First batch of parts came today, lots of little bits but the big part was the new SFI bell ...

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[03 OW SVT]

Shooting for low 11's high 10's next year Bob? I hope you get there.:thumbsup:

[THE BIG KOALA]

Where is the shiny stuff?

[Martin0660]

Shooting for low 11's high 10's next year Bob? I hope you get there.:thumbsup:

LOL, the funny parts is ... I'm not looking to go much faster than the 12.00 deal. I'm just really tired of changing clutches and screwing with this exhaust :D

I will likely make a few more "flat out" attempts after I get a solid shortblock in there ... it ran 122 MPH spraying 3rd & 4th only so I do think there is a 10.9999 in there ;)


Where is the shiny stuff?

On you car? I don;t have one of those eucalyptus tress growing money over here :awsome:

[THE BIG KOALA]

The tree is officially dead as my wife chopped it down.

[03 OW SVT]

The tree is officially dead as my wife chopped it down.

Joe, that is funny as hell.:laughing1:

[Martin0660]

The tree is officially dead as my wife chopped it down.

Better to chop down the tree than cut off your twig ;)

[THE BIG KOALA]

How very true. I think there is a 10.xxx in your car also.

[PaxtonShelby]

The tree is officially dead as my wife chopped it down.

So sorry to hear about your stump.

[Fast Gypsy]

Bob, I really like the SVO wing on your Capri. I now have one and the question I have is do you know where I can get the brackets that stiffin up the wing. I saw them on a SVO a few years ago. This will be my winter project along with putting 4:30's in the rear. I'm looking for low 10's.
Vince

[yeahloh95]

very cool updates bob, let me know when you are working on it, i'll swing out

[Martin0660]

I now have one and the question I have is do you know where I can get the brackets that stiffin up the wing.

My buddy Jason Franklin makes some. Contact him at Turboj74@att.net (FWIW, he has a spectacular SVO)

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He is over in Canton and makes up batches of 10 or so from time to time. Tell him you know me ;)

On my car, it's just a piece of plastic that Mike made. Works really well. There is also a template out there on the internet somewhere where you can print it and cut them from plexiglass, sorry I dont have a link any more.

[yeahloh95]

Oh those are nice I need a set too

[venom]

cool stuff as always Bob.

[Fast Gypsy]

Bob, Thanks for the info, just what I was looking for. I'm sure I'll catch up with you at one of the tracks this summer.
Vince

[Martin0660]

Parts are rolling in :) Here is another key piece ... It's a Spec flywheel for a 5.0 but zero balance and with a 2.3 pilot bore and bolt pattern ...

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[Martin0660]

UPS guy is making daily stops. FINALLY able to back to one of my preferred clutch brands, back to a Ram ;)

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Got a call that my adapter plate shipped today, that's the significant part of all of this

[THE BIG KOALA]

This sure looks like an early christmas with all these new parts.:awsome:

[Martin0660]

Big day in my little world. I got my adapter plate to adapt the 2.3 block to a 5.0 Bellhousing. Yes Joe, it's shiny but will be wedged between the engine and bell ...

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[yeahloh95]

very cool parts when will they be installed?

[Martin0660]

very cool parts when will they be installed?

Getting my new short block out of "involentary long term storage" at the machine shop is the driver for my schedule at this point. Thinking about buying him a new calendar before the 1 year anniversary of when I dropped it off to be assembled.

^^^ lots of sarcasm

But seriously the plan is fit all this up / get it indexed on the new short block before I put it all in. I just can't narrow that down right now :(

I do have all the parts for the new exhaust and the upgrade / refresh parts for the G Force ... Likely going to do the trans over Christmas.

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[THE BIG KOALA]

Big day in my little world. I got my adapter plate to adapt the 2.3 block to a 5.0 Bellhousing. Yes Joe, it's shiny but will be wedged between the engine and bell ...

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[yeahloh95]

very cool whos kit is that? g-force?

[Martin0660]

Trans parts are bits I pieced together from a number of vendors. It's Tremec parts for the synchros, the billet slider keys & bronze shift pads are from The Gear Box, solid bearing retainer is from Astro, etc ... Trans needs freshened and some of these was little upgrades we didn't put in last year.

[map351]

Big day in my little world. I got my adapter plate to adapt the 2.3 block to a 5.0 Bellhousing. Yes Joe, it's shiny but will be wedged between the engine and bell ...

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I guess this would solve the hard to find 2.3 C-4 Bell and puts a SFI C-4 Bell in the 2.3 game.

Maybe I will take the offer!

[Martin0660]

I guess this would solve the hard to find 2.3 C-4 Bell and puts a SFI C-4 Bell in the 2.3 game.

Maybe I will take the offer!

Offer still stands, but it's not that Easy ... The converter pilot into the crank is the issue ... Andrew and I worked through that math and you would need a spacer on the crank under the flex plate plus a thicker adapter plate. The pilot on the converter is the issue unless you machine the crank like a 5.0 ... Also, no one is making the SFI flex plate (reactor said no). Andrew and I planed to adapt the bolt pattern on the crank spacer when we laid that whole scheme out.

Also FWIW, QuickTime makes the SFI 2.3 bell to C4. The first ones was wrong, but I heard they fixed that.

One other FYI... For the first time EVERYTHING in my system will be SFI cert, flywheel, clutch assembly, and Bell housing ...that makes me happy :)

[yeahloh95]

bob there was a guy at cecil with a 87-88 t-bird with an auto, he sprayed it off the line and was going 11.50s

[Martin0660]

Another big part of my winter plans is a fresh shortblock. Nothing exotic, stock displacement, good rods (finally!), good pistons, basically a solid foundation. Spent the day at the shop checking all the clearances ... Just need to do the final hone, one more cleaning, then it's ready to assemble ...
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[yeahloh95]

what ci will you be now?

[Martin0660]

what ci will you be now?

Lol, a .030 over 2300 is 2340 cc's, so the 140 cubic inches stretches out to a massive 142.79 ... I guess it rounds of to 143" :)

[THE BIG KOALA]

more=better

[Martin0660]

Rod clearances fit tonight. I'm in que to get the final hone done then on to assembly

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[cwh19]

How much is a set of good rods for that?

[Martin0660]

How much is a set of good rods for that?

Like anything, depends on your deffinaition of "good" and what options you want. The buy in on a Crower rod is like $100.00 each... Add in bushed ends, capscrew, etc and you end up at ~$120.00 rod ...

[Martin0660]

Ring gaps set tonight. You can't believe how nice it is to do them with a proper machine.

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[Martin0660]

Crank installed today, bang on bearing clearances and end play. One more wash of the rods and pistons tomorrow (hopefully) and it will be a rotator.

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[map351]

No GLYPTAL?

[Martin0660]

Debated on it. There is so little wetted area down there and it's all very smooth. All the drain backs are via ports in free space. My oil pan has a scrapper and windage tray (plus trap doors). It was a debate, but we decided there wasn't anything to be gained.

[yeahloh95]

No pixxy dust?

[Martin0660]

No pixxy dust?

That shit goes in the trasnmission and I save a little to sprinkle on my left shoe ;) The Magic goes in the oil pan before we close it up.

[Martin0660]

Rotator assembled.

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[yeahloh95]

cool what color is it going to be?

[Martin0660]

what color is it going to be?

This is the pink block ... debating on a final color, I would love to go back pink but just can't seem to accept that in my car :cutie:

It's likely to end up Ford Gray but nothing is final.

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[THE BIG KOALA]

cool what color is it going to be?I think he should just polish the whole thing.

[cwh19]

Pink would be amazing. I also like the lime green balaska painted his dart block.

[yeahloh95]

Yeah bob just clear coat it lol

[PaxtonShelby]

Polish that bee-yotch. Winter is a long time...you need something to keep you busy!

[Martin0660]

The problem with polished stuff is it doesent stay polished and needs polished again ... That's where I fail ;)


you need something to keep you busy!

I'm working on a short winter, I have a pipe dream about being ready to run NMRA Bradenton March 7-10th ... I will need to be together and running to make this a little ahead to shake down and break in the clutch. Key issues is that a hige pice of my plan isnt shipped yet. and I dont go a lot further without it.

If I get done early, I have a converible to turbo swap so it's ready for Norwalk in June ...

I got a text message that "It's a Chrismas Miracle", my engine is done... Apparently he buttoned up the oil pan today.
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[yeahloh95]

very cool

[Martin0660]

Brought the new bullet home today ... still debating on paint color ;)

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FWIW, there are 12 cylinders of fury in this picture, just not sure I'm doing that right.

[Martin0660]

painted new bullet today (suspense is over on paint color, lol) and bolted up the new motor mounts.

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[SK@StreetLethal]

Looking good!

[THE BIG KOALA]

Looks good Bob.

[Dan B.]

painted new bullet today (suspense is over on paint color, lol) and bolted up the new motor mounts.

Wise choice......everything looks bigger when it's black. :woot1:

[PaxtonShelby]

I think that black is a wise choice. Love that junk of yours Bob!!

[yeahloh95]

yes the black looks good on there

[Martin0660]

Thanks guys ... progress is held up waiting on parts, I hate FedEx

[Martin0660]

FedEx finally came through on their end of the deal ... I absolutely had to have it when they was damn good and ready to deliver it apparently ...

Played around with new parts. Hoping to take a little weight off the nose ...

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[Martin0660]

Finally got my engine legs today too ... I've been dicking around waiting for these, now the engine can come off the stand and I can start fitting the adapter and bell :D

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[yeahloh95]

Team z stuff are nice parts that should take 30 lbs off or so

[pwtmxracing]

Looking good that's bad ass Lil car you got there !!!

[Martin0660]

V8 bell adapter bolted up ...

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SFI V8 bellhousing bolted up ... Now I need to find my dial indicator

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Can't see the engine for the bellhousing ... 2.3 liter block hiding behind a 5 liter bell :D

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[Dan B.]

Bob.....I think you are the only one doing ANY work on your car this winter. Keep it up!

[Martin0660]

I'm not sure if any of you have ever indexed a bell housing ... This is the first one I've done outside the car so you can see the set-up.

Dial indicator on a mag base. Mag base is on the flywheel, and the bellhousing is bolted up. Set up the dial indicator on ZERO at the bottom ...

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Rotated the crank shaft 180 degrees and get a reading ...

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In this case it is .030 difference top to bottom and dead on side to side. For what it's worth, I also reset the dial indicator to ZERO on the top and spin it over to the bottom to endure it's the same reading and not something in my set-up.

You take 1/2 the total reading (.015) and order the closest offset dowels made (available .007, .014, .021). So in my case I need ot order the .014 offset pins, and that should put me within the .005 allowable error (should be .001 or better).

I always do mine, but this was the first time I had it out where I could get pictures.

[Martin0660]

I think you are the only one doing ANY work on your car this winter.

Or at least the only one talking about it ;)

[yeahloh95]

where is the nozzle fitting on the bell?

[gmkillr]

You can probably squeeze a few more .001's by playing around with the bolts and a hammer.

[Martin0660]

where is the nozzle fitting on the bell?

To be determined once I bolt the actual clutch and pressure plate up. Likely wont be needed with this new set-up, but i'll put the port in just in case ;)


You can probably squeeze a few more .001's by playing around with the bolts and a hammer.

It's a good news / bad news deal ... With the dowels and countersunk bolts on the 2.3 side there is no play in the system ... On the V8 side the dowels are pretty much a light press fit, so no play. The offset dowels will get me where I need to be.

[gmkillr]

Ok, good luck bud! :thmbsup:

[coralcoupe1993]

Yum~!

[somethingclever]

Nice work Bob

[Martin0660]

G Force is out of the car and torn down for freshening. All the gears and bearings looked perfect.

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[Martin0660]

The root of ripping into the transmission was an intermittent issue with it power shifting into third. I think Rob found my issue.

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That's my shift selector finger ( top) versus a replacement (bottom)

[yeahloh95]

can it be straightened?

[Sonic03snake]

Dam, that thing is tweaked!! Another one for the carnage collection.:goodidea:
The root of ripping into the transmission was an intermittent issue with it power shifting into third. I think Rob found my issue.

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That's my shift selector finger ( top) versus a replacement (bottom)

[Martin0660]

can it be straightened?

LOL, yeah, it was straigtened into the garbage can ;)


Another one for the carnage collection.:goodidea:

LOL, I quit saving broken parts a while ago ... not enough room :D

[yeahloh95]

could you do a hardness check on it and maybe heat treat the new one so this doesnt happen again ?

[Martin0660]

New spring package for the waste gate ... Finally got to use the big blue spring

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[Martin0660]

could you do a hardness check on it and maybe heat treat the new one so this doesnt happen again ?

I thought I answered this ... For a while they was making these out of a hardened high alloy steel. Apparently they broke more frequently than the Tremec parts bend.

[yeahloh95]

oh ok i get bending is better than breaking what will the base boost be with that spring

[Martin0660]

what will the base boost be with that spring

Lowest gate stting will be 21.5 then up from there with the controller. My controller maxes out at "X" PSI above the gate spring so with the package that was in there, I couldnt get up to / over 30 ;) Now it should be no problem :biglaugh:

[yeahloh95]

i want to try 21 lbs this year

[Martin0660]

Here is a testiment to these little engines ...

The short block in my car came from a core pile at a rebuilder. Was in good shape, but unknown history. Put a few fresh gaskets / seals on it, flushed the oil , then threw it in my car 2 1/2 seasons ago when I shortened a set of rods. This bone stock short block has made several hundred passes all leaving off a clutch drop on the limiter, thousands of street miles because I drive the car all the time, went through me learning to tune Megasquirt, spraying nitrous, and in general god awe full abuse .... Pulled the head off today getting ready to install my built bullet and you can still see the factory hatch in the cylinders ...

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Don't however ask about crank thrust, seems to be lots of that;)

[Martin0660]

Motor less Monday ... Front suspension and k member come out next ...

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I'm starting to see the end of "coming apart" and looking forward to "going together" :)

[Wolfpack Speed]

New ET goals for this year Bob?

[Martin0660]

Lol ... 12.000?

I still plan to run True Street at 12.00. The car should be able to run 11.50 pretty well on boost (might try some 11.50 index stuff), then with a small shot got for a 10.999. I think all three are doable and should be substantially more durable with the new clutch combo.

[Wolfpack Speed]

Lol ... 12.000?

I still plan to run True Street at 12.00. The car should be able to run 11.50 pretty well on boost (might try some 11.50 index stuff), then with a small shot got for a 10.999. I think all three are doable and should be substantially more durable with the new clutch combo.

Sweet! I'm going to try and hit up a couple races this year but I'm definitely not running that silly super stang class, definitely True Street. Good luck with the work and car!

[Martin0660]

Between work, weather, and a bit of a mess with my cylinder head, I'm ready to start turning this pile of parts into a car ...

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[John4cam]

man that engine looks clean!

[PaxtonShelby]

When are you installing the vent shades??

Seriously - nice progress!

[Wolfpack Speed]

Nice!

[map351]

The one I let get away!

[Martin0660]

I can drop it back off Mike. I would say rather than "the one that got away" we might call it the one that won't go away :) Beside maintenance, this is the last upgrades to this car.

[cwh19]

......this is the last upgrades to this car.

I bet if I go through all of your winter threads, these same words creep up each time lol. :rotflol:

[Martin0660]

Yeah, but I mean it this time ... I made the decision to do one more go this winter so I can race this car this season ... I am looking for a chassis to start building a class legal race car and move this back to driver / toy status. I really want a Coyote Stock legal car.

[THE BIG KOALA]

Yeah, but I mean it this time.Yeah right.

[Martin0660]

Officially done with coming apart and on with going together ...

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[Martin0660]

Dropped the new short block in today ...

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Got the tranny in, everything mounted underneath ... Head on, turbo on, etc, etc ...

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Got a bunch of little stuff to mess around with tomorrow, but it's coming together :D

Next big project is exhaust.

[THE BIG KOALA]

The hot dog in the hallway makes sense now.:D

[yeahloh95]

looking good should be running soon

[Martin0660]

Show car stuff ....

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[Martin0660]

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[THE BIG KOALA]

Definatley needs more show car stuff.lol. You made fast work at getting that done.

[Martin0660]

Definatley needs more show car stuff.

Deciding between Show Car and Hardcorely Race

[THE BIG KOALA]

Just go hardcore and be done with it. You can't be both!!!

[Martin0660]

You can't be both!!!

tru dat

[THE BIG KOALA]

I just noticed BIG SHOW might have to incorporate that into my graphics.

[Martin0660]

I've been trying to sell it ... hot dog is too much ;)

[cwh19]

That valve cover is fantastic.

[Wolfpack Speed]

I really want a Coyote Stock legal car.This is the only class that interest me Bob, I have a feeling that it's going to be the most popular heads up class this year and for many years to come if the NMRA can make it! I have considered using my 95 for this and is one of the smaller reasons I bought it, a notch would be a much better choice though:goodidea:

[Martin0660]

I really looked at things hard last year. To build a class legal car I would generally loose a season. When I looked at my work schedule it was pretty apparent I would loose two seasons now as I wouldn't have the time to get a car ready to roll out for next spring. I had this shortblock at the shop being built, so it made sence to go this way right now.

I've been watching the class close and talking with several of the guys racing in it now. There are going to be several new cars for next year for sure. What I'm worried about is them pulling their BS and messing with the rules package ... The auto guys want weight off and bolt together converters ... If they get that the stick guys want soft lok clutches ... It's such a nice package now but these few tweaks could let it get out of control pretty fast.

The payout for the class is only $500 to win, but if you build the car right based on contingency they see $5,000 to win (that using 70% of what's available). People are starting to see that and see they can race for a decent purse (both win and runner up). Lots of buzz about that ... Add in that Strange occasionally throws out some bonus money and the attention the class is getting and it makes sence.

My concern is always with them screwing with the rules to "even out" and letting the cost get out of control. That's the NMRA track record :(

[yeahloh95]

Bob I have the car you need

[Wolfpack Speed]

I really looked at things hard last year. To build a class legal car I would generally loose a season. When I looked at my work schedule it was pretty apparent I would loose two seasons now as I wouldn't have the time to get a car ready to roll out for next spring. I had this shortblock at the shop being built, so it made sence to go this way right now.

I've been watching the class close and talking with several of the guys racing in it now. There are going to be several new cars for next year for sure. What I'm worried about is them pulling their BS and messing with the rules package ... The auto guys want weight off and bolt together converters ... If they get that the stick guys want soft lok clutches ... It's such a nice package now but these few tweaks could let it get out of control pretty fast.

The payout for the class is only $500 to win, but if you build the car right based on contingency they see $5,000 to win (that using 70% of what's available). People are starting to see that and see they can race for a decent purse (both win and runner up). Lots of buzz about that ... Add in that Strange occasionally throws out some bonus money and the attention the class is getting and it makes sence.

My concern is always with them screwing with the rules to "even out" and letting the cost get out of control. That's the NMRA track record :(

I totally agree with everything you said Bob. Before the Coyote stock class, I struggled constantly about whether I should get involved in heads up racing or not. There is so much that goes into heads up racing and racing in general, it's really hard for me to justify the commitment. Since the Coyote Stock class was born, I have been rethinking my previous decision to not get involved but I share the same concerns as you.

It would also be much easier if money just grew on trees:D

[Martin0660]

Bob I have the car you need

Which one? LOL, actually I would lean to a SN-95 or New Edge car for this class believe it or not. You are allowed up to a 28-10 slick but have to have stock wheel wells ... much better fit if with the later cars over a fox, plus if you arent running "class legal" you could get even more tire on the car for other racing. That's one of the pluses of this rules package, they race at 3200#'s on a 28-10 (several guys run 26-10) ... That said, it would be tough for me to skip over a 4 eye car ;)

Oddly enough, buying a "good roller" might not be the best option because you are leaving contingency on the table. As an example, there is $300/$150 for using the Maximum motorsports roll bar ... just making the finals a few times pays for it versus buying a car with a bar in it and loosing that chance ... same thing with suspension, brakes, axles, etc, etc ... To make this work, you sort of have to build within the contingency list otherwise you leave might leave a lot of purse on the table.


It would also be much easier if money just grew on trees:D

I hear that, i've shaken a few tree's without much luck ;) I really fear where the NMRA is going to end up. The good news is the sponsors still keep putting money in, and I think adding Norwalk was a huge benefit. They just loose credibility with guys over the rules packages ... who will be actually running in the "new" class that married SSO and Outlaw? It was a good idea, but they lost the racers.

[THE BIG KOALA]

You need a eucalyptus tree.

[Martin0660]

Also going to change things up for the hatch

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/FA1EB86E-B3A8-495D-A6D0-8594AE02254A-11605-00000F3102CDB5A7_zps520483df.jpg

[yeahloh95]

Fiberglass ?

[Martin0660]

Nope, oddly shaped, heavy metal and glass

[stanggt94]

Bubble window?

[stanggt94]

My buddy had one in high school think it was a 83 maybe

[yeahloh95]

it should pick up some mph with that on there

[THE BIG KOALA]

Show car stuff.:awsome:

[yeahloh95]

[QUOTE=Martin0660;331285]Which one? LOL, actually I would lean to a SN-95 or New Edge car for this class believe it or not. You are allowed up to a 28-10 slick but have to have stock wheel wells ... much better fit if with the later cars over a fox, plus if you arent running "class legal" you could get even more tire on the car for other racing. That's one of the pluses of this rules package, they race at 3200#'s on a 28-10 (several guys run 26-10) ... That said, it would be tough for me to skip over a 4 eye car ;)

Oddly enough, buying a "good roller" might not be the best option because you are leaving contingency on the table. As an example, there is $300/$150 for using the Maximum motorsports roll bar ... just making the finals a few times pays for it versus buying a car with a bar in it and loosing that chance ... same thing with suspension, brakes, axles, etc, etc ... To make this work, you sort of have to build within the contingency list otherwise you leave might leave a lot of purse on the table.



I ment my white car til i read you cant have mini tubs :( it has all wolfe and team z stuff

[Martin0660]

Yeah no mini tubs ... They made a guy put back stock wheel wells ;)

I don't have the list in front of me, but Maximum Motorsports, UPR, and I think Grannacopy are the suspension contingency. I know MM roll bar pays.

[yeahloh95]

yeah the red car in the 5.0

[Martin0660]

Got the new down pipe and intermediate pipe fit up, welded, down pipe wrapped and ready to go back on the car ....

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/8DBED4C4-757C-4C07-8523-A90DAC5FA224-2664-000002DDDBF52579_zpsa2583dea.jpg

I hate exhaust .... I was tempted to just 90 off the turbo straight up the add one of these ...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/1B40F8C3-F74F-4411-A7AA-363788686C43-2664-000002DDF719C354_zpse08cf52c.jpg

Frank talked me out of it ;)

[Martin0660]

My buddy had one in high school think it was a 83 maybe

If that's an original hatch, the car is 85/86 .... see the third brake light peeking through.

That car also has SVO sail panels.

[Martin0660]

it should pick up some mph with that on there

We wont be able to prove it with all the changes made this winter ... The plan is to drop the SVO hatch off to get a little attention (scratches and a dent) . When (if?) I switch back we will know.


Show car stuff.:awsome:

Trying to keep up with BIG SHOW

[yeahloh95]

Looking good bob should be out soon i need to pull tails back on svo before it comes out

[Martin0660]

IT'S ALIVE ....

http://s1192.beta.photobucket.com/user/martin0660pb/media/0582918E-1D92-45FD-B523-6809828BBD99-3219-000003D91048D69D_zps30867bc9.mp4.html?sort=3&o=0

[THE BIG KOALA]

Good work Bob that didn't take long.

[Martin0660]

Went through 3 heat cycles, roughed in the alignment (camber and toe), and got to go for a little ride :)

New clutch set up is spectacular.

Down to a little punch list, tailpipe is hitting something on bumps, need to center the steering wheel, then swap out a set of tail lights and get the other hatch on. At least I can start the break in ;)

In the sun :)

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/EB6A2235-B9ED-4264-BE4D-99207FFB937F-3460-000003F005311E53_zpsdc88bf7f.jpg

[Pure Stock]

Higher coefficient disk with less static pressure?

[THE BIG KOALA]

Went through 3 heat cycles, roughed in the alignment (camber and toe), and got to go for a little ride :)

New clutch set up is spectacular.

Down to a little punch list, tailpipe is hitting something on bumps, need to center the steering wheel, then swap out a set of tail lights and get the other hatch on. At least I can start the break in ;)

In the sun :)

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/EB6A2235-B9ED-4264-BE4D-99207FFB937F-3460-000003F005311E53_zpsdc88bf7f.jpgDefinate show car but you really should buy that flapper and have it chromed. What are those 2 stainless lines for? I can't keep up with all these mods!!:goodidea:

[Martin0660]

Higher coefficient disk with less static pressure?

Exactly Joe, now that I can get a 10 1/2 clutch behind this thing I don't have to clamp load the thing to death with a metalic clutch. Should be easier on everything

[Martin0660]

Definate show car but you really should buy that flapper and have it chromed. What are those 2 stainless lines for? I can't keep up with all these mods!!:goodidea:

Naws .... It's just for looking at though, I like the Shiney lines

[yeahloh95]

wow congrats on getting it running it was sooo nice out today

[Martin0660]

1984 Capri RS 2.3 Turbo hatch - YouTube

[THE BIG KOALA]

Now that is like a black mirror:goodidea:

[Martin0660]

Out driving in this muck today... Got 75 miles on the new clutch

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/D92B4481-D50F-4B27-A51E-8AF625F44FFC-7059-00000868B450414F_zpsce5c3566.jpg

[THE BIG KOALA]

Race car in the rain.

[Martin0660]

Race car

Race car, show car, daily driver ... this thing wears lots of hats ...

Here is it is impersonating a tractor ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6uZsPDELus&feature=youtu.be

[Dan B.]

Here is it is impersonating a tractor ;)


Holy hell....that's funny!!

[Martin0660]

The bubble has landed ...

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/607BBB27-64EB-4A33-AF07-91F3B438C8A9-1816-00000247CB378B50_zps5121aad7.jpg

[95V6]

I've never seen anything like that...

[THE BIG KOALA]

That looks great but I just don't understand how that race/show car keeps getting dirty. That must mean you drive it. I can't wait to see it with your next plans done.

[cwh19]

Makes it look completely different

[pwtmxracing]

That baby looks good

[Pure Stock]

More room now for a bigger bottle.

[Dan B.]

Neat....but I think I like the other one better.

[Martin0660]

I've never seen anything like that...

It is the original hatch for 83-86 Capri's. It's a love / hate thing for most, strange look from some angles, lots of glass, no spoiler except the little molding lip. I'm not sold either, but the other hatch / spoiler needs paint so this is a place holder ;)


That looks great but I just don't understand how that race/show car keeps getting dirty.

New product I'm getting ready to launch called "BIG SHOW daily dirt". Lets you take your pampered show car or trailer queen drag car and give you some credibilty in a can to hang with the rest of us. Amazing stuff, comes right off with a little soap and water ;)


More room now for a bigger bottle.

Two of the big ones :D Actually something I dont like it the bottle is now in the open back there. Worried about heat on it ... We will see once it gets tinted how it is.

[AdamantiumSilvr]

...true this!!

Neat....but I think I like the other one better.

[Martin0660]

Lousy cell phone pictures and the car is filthy but ....

Tint on the new hatch is done

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/DDC50B4A-340D-4967-AB9A-A44E070C3C0F-8173-000009D059BB9FC4_zps5bef90fe.jpg

Also trying something new on the hood (It's wrap)

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/A1DE7A56-AE39-4F9B-B46E-B0B48AD320EB-8173-000009D06322E8AE_zpsf8d635e6.jpg
http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/EF4B56A8-E57C-404B-AFBE-C16C19F46626-8173-000009D05EC55649_zps78a98ee8.jpg

On the dyno tomorrow!

[Dan B.]

Hood looks good. Especially on a dirty show car........ ;)

[Wolfpack Speed]

:goodidea:

[Pure Stock]

That cowl hood looks so right with that bumper cover/headlight package.

[Monkeygrits]

The flat black hood section looks awesome. Great looking car!

[THE BIG KOALA]

Your hood looks great and did you find out anything about those other stickers? With that tint and hood what do you think you will pick up on the DYNO?;)

[yeahloh95]

Your hood looks great and did you find out anything about those other stickers? With that tint and hood what do you think you will pick up on the DYNO?;)

:woot1: big power gains with tint

[Martin0660]

I will upload pictures and videos later, but had a good dyno session ....

On boost 414 RWHP / 409 Torque
On a 50 shot 518 RWHP / 540 Torque

Needless to say, I'm happy ( and its still really safe)

[Martin0660]

Video of 500 RWHP pull ...

500 RWHP Pull - YouTube

[Pure Stock]

Damn 104 rwhp on a 50 hit.

[Dan B.]

Damn son......that's impressive!!

[THE BIG KOALA]

Great job Bob impressive numbers. I knew that tint and cowl wrap would pick some up but I did not think that much:D Hello 10's.

[Martin0660]

I knew that tint and cowl wrap would pick some up but I did not think that much

It's the bubble hatch, it's magic ;)

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/58267F96-B1AE-43EE-B7C4-CE56287F5D91-9291-00000ADE7807B7DF_zpsec65491a.jpg

[Martin0660]

Damn 104 rwhp on a 50 hit.

Combined effects ... It is a NX jet tune up, so it's a rear wheel shot ... add in the cooling effects of IAT's and that it picks up boost on the spray ... yep.

[Martin0660]

One more point, the "Boost" number above was set-up for racing it in True Street. When we was dialing in the boost, I got too much in there and made a pull at 30 PSI :D

It made 449/459 at that boost ;)

30 psi pull - YouTube

[Martin0660]

At this point, everything is pretty much attached to the car as planned for this winters projects and got the tune dialed in where I can start racing ...

Got to drive it a bunch today, but it's going back into storage tomorrow until late April. I've got to go out of town (country) for work so it should be nice weather and hard racing when I get home. Hopefully when I get back all it should need is an oil change, a good nut and bolt check, and clean it up to go race.

A few pictures ;)

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/B8B0D71B-B433-4EC8-9E65-35F388B5BD31-10852-00000C3666CD6702_zps721e08c8.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/C3B271A8-C108-4605-B45F-DA1B2854B0A1-10852-00000C369D300A7B_zpsc98c5529.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/161D7FE8-A091-4F0D-9777-8AD2E598C8ED-10852-00000C36A343E958_zps3c852251.jpg

http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/martin0660pb/FF5F6811-B0E8-42E6-A590-8767A9752D32-10852-00000C366F0426AC_zps6d013ad2.jpg

[cwh19]

Mamoth park?

[Martin0660]

Nah, Twin Lakes