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92306gt
12-09-2012, 10:55 PM
tables have turned...Now what??:laughing:

scott5
12-10-2012, 09:24 AM
I no understand? Did ford come out with something that beats the zo6 that is na?

1320goat
12-10-2012, 09:31 AM
....

92306gt
12-10-2012, 09:46 AM
mainly talking about the zl1..for 580 hp its quit pathetic. my buddies dad bought one a few months ago. i know my H/C/I fox would destroy it. i think my stock 03 cobra would be a good run for it too. I've just heard for so long from the other side that ford has to have a sc to compete. all of sudden gm is putting blowers on everything so i had to rub it in. and the new 5.0 is na and its competitor is a sc camaro. like i said, the tables have turned


p.s you guys know i am only stirring the pot for some fun, right??:cool:

92306gt
12-10-2012, 09:47 AM
And of course we have to bring up ''the'' super car

scott5
12-10-2012, 09:54 AM
Until ford comes out with something na to compete with vette me no impressed.

5th gen camaro is fail.

And i remember a h/c/i 347 fox losing against a bone stock ls2 vert. I think you do too!

92306gt
12-10-2012, 10:03 AM
Until ford comes out with something na to compete with vette me no impressed.

5th gen camaro is fail.

And i remember a h/c/i 347 fox losing against a bone stock ls2 vert. I think you do too!

he lost one time due to spinning. a h/c/i 347 fox with a stick and street tires is a little bit of a challenge to hook up on the street. the other few races he won. anyone can drive an automatic vette..anyone even you:biglaugh:

and hes lucky i wasnt driving:hide1:

92306gt
12-10-2012, 10:04 AM
Until ford comes out with something na to compete with vette me no impressed.

5th gen camaro is fail.

And i remember a h/c/i 347 fox losing against a bone stock ls2 vert. I think you do too!

And you have to admit that ford has stepped it up.

scott5
12-10-2012, 11:08 AM
I will be the first one to admit i would get a new 5.0 over a 5th camaro anyday of the week. Even thought bout a coyote in a sn95, but the cost of them just is too high right now. I honestly believe for the coyote to be a good canidate for a swap is that tey need to put it in alot more than just the mustang for the cost factor. Thats where lsx parts decimate the ford stuff. I can post 15-20 cars right now that have stock 5.3/6.0s with a turbo running 8s-9.50s in fox's and u can get a 5.3 for 650 bucks and fab up turbo kit/fuel system for 2000.. Its hard to beat that.

Seer
12-10-2012, 11:27 AM
I will be the first one to admit i would get a new 5.0 over a 5th camaro anyday of the week. Even thought bout a coyote in a sn95, but the cost of them just is too high right now. I honestly believe for the coyote to be a good canidate for a swap is that tey need to put it in alot more than just the mustang for the cost factor. Thats where lsx parts decimate the ford stuff. I can post 15-20 cars right now that have stock 5.3/6.0s with a turbo running 8s-9.50s in fox's and u can get a 5.3 for 650 bucks and fab up turbo kit/fuel system for 2000.. Its hard to beat that.

whats this obsession with going fast for cheap in out dated chassis...

Terminated
12-10-2012, 11:33 AM
whats this obsession with going fast for cheap in out dated chassis...

Not everyone can ball out on a 2012 GT500?

Seer
12-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Not everyone can ball out on a 2012 GT500?

Don't need to go to that extreme either. But it seems thats the only arguement these LSx guys have anymore is "I can buy a junkyard motor, and shove it in a rusted out Fox and run XX.X"

Ok... cookie? I respect them for their speed but it seems like thats the only arguement you hear now.

PaceFever79
12-10-2012, 11:56 AM
For the most part, Fords equal or beat GM in HP per CI comparisons.

That holds true then and now, right up to the level of Master Engine Builders.

However, Ford engineering is more "advanced" than GM.

On that note....

Ponder what a Boss 7.0 coyote could do to an LS7?

You know you want to see it .... sooo badly.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 11:59 AM
I will be the first one to admit i would get a new 5.0 over a 5th camaro anyday of the week. Even thought bout a coyote in a sn95, but the cost of them just is too high right now. I honestly believe for the coyote to be a good canidate for a swap is that tey need to put it in alot more than just the mustang for the cost factor. Thats where lsx parts decimate the ford stuff. I can post 15-20 cars right now that have stock 5.3/6.0s with a turbo running 8s-9.50s in fox's and u can get a 5.3 for 650 bucks and fab up turbo kit/fuel system for 2000.. Its hard to beat that.

i agree they are expensive but what isnt anymore..only reason all these guys wanna putting lsx motors in mustangs nowadays is because they know they dont have a chassis worth a shit.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 12:02 PM
For the most part, Fords equal or beat GM in HP per CI comparisons.

That holds true then and now, right up to the level of Master Engine Builders.

However, Ford engineering is more "advanced" than GM.

On that note....

Ponder what a Boss 7.0 coyote could do to an LS7?

You know you want to see it .... sooo badly.

I do:hyper:

Terminated
12-10-2012, 12:52 PM
Don't need to go to that extreme either. But it seems thats the only arguement these LSx guys have anymore is "I can buy a junkyard motor, and shove it in a rusted out Fox and run XX.X"

Ok... cookie? I respect them for their speed but it seems like thats the only arguement you hear now.

Meh, the new hot-rodding ways I suppose.

John4cam
12-10-2012, 01:07 PM
i agree they are expensive but what isnt anymore..only reason all these guys wanna putting lsx motors in mustangs nowadays is because they know they dont have a chassis worth a shit.

Then you get the "those cars are only 4 bolt? They must not have any balls....:rolleyes:

That bothered my gm friend so much and I never understood it. I've never seen any negative effects from only having a four bolt wheel and putting Lots of hp to it.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 01:21 PM
Then you get the "those cars are only 4 bolt? They must not have any balls....:rolleyes:

That bothered my gm friend so much and I never understood it. I've never seen any negative effects from only having a four bolt wheel and putting Lots of hp to it.

nothing wrong with 4 bolt especially with some good axles. as far as im concerned an 8.8 with some good axles is just as good or better then a 12 bolt. sure as hell better then a "5 lug" 10 bolt

scott5
12-10-2012, 02:34 PM
Don't need to go to that extreme either. But it seems thats the only arguement these LSx guys have anymore is "I can buy a junkyard motor, and shove it in a rusted out Fox and run XX.X"

Ok... cookie? I respect them for their speed but it seems like thats the only arguement you hear now.

Cuz i rather put 70k into a house thats gna actually be worth something.

scott5
12-10-2012, 02:35 PM
i agree they are expensive but what isnt anymore..only reason all these guys wanna putting lsx motors in mustangs nowadays is because they know they dont have a chassis worth a shit.

Not so much chassis but weight.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 02:38 PM
Not so much chassis but weight.

you just need to cut a camaro and mustang in half and weld them together. camaro front half with mustang rear half since you cant make up your mind:highfive:

scott5
12-10-2012, 02:38 PM
For the most part, Fords equal or beat GM in HP per CI comparisons.

That holds true then and now, right up to the level of Master Engine Builders.

However, Ford engineering is more "advanced" than GM.

On that note....

Ponder what a Boss 7.0 coyote could do to an LS7?

You know you want to see it .... sooo badly.

Are we talking na to na?

And hotrod magazine said that the sbc is the best engine ever produced :) had to throw that in there.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 02:39 PM
Are we talking na to na?

And hotrod magazine said that the sbc is the best engine ever produced :) had to throw that in there.

magazines say all kinds of stuff that aint true:sticktonge:

scott5
12-10-2012, 03:30 PM
magazines say all kinds of stuff that aint true:sticktonge:

Said it on the internet too! Havent u seen the state farm commercial. Cant put anything on the internet that aint true lol..

And really selling your saleen already lmao

92306gt
12-10-2012, 03:34 PM
Said it on the internet too! Havent u seen the state farm commercial. Cant put anything on the internet that aint true lol..

And really selling your saleen already lmao

she wants a newer suv and we all know whos the boss

92306gt
12-10-2012, 03:41 PM
Said it on the internet too! Havent u seen the state farm commercial. Cant put anything on the internet that aint true lol..

And really selling your saleen already lmao

i will admit that the ls motors are good but thats about all gm has goin on for themselves..they have nothing else good going for them. my mommy in law had a 2010 cts and ended up getting rid of it with less then 30k cause the timing chains and other components were worn out. nothing but junk. if i paid 50+ for a new car and it was worn out within 30k, id run it through the damn showroom. now she has a new terrain and its about a pile too..

SK360
12-10-2012, 03:47 PM
i will admit that the ls motors are good but thats about all gm has goin on for themselves..they have nothing else good going for them. my mommy in law had a 2010 cts and ended up getting rid of it with less then 30k cause the timing chains and other components were worn out. nothing but junk. if i paid 50+ for a new car and it was worn out within 30k, id run it through the damn showroom. now she has a new terrain and its about a pile too..

http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_0801_2008_cadillac_cts/viewall.html
Straight Junk.

Funny, we bought a 2013 Ford Escape and it's been recalled 4 times so far. 3 for engine fires. Currently the car has sat at the dealer for the past 10 days while we drive a Hyundai Tucson rental.

scott5
12-10-2012, 03:48 PM
I drive a subie everyday lol.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 04:02 PM
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_0801_2008_cadillac_cts/viewall.html
Straight Junk.

Funny, we bought a 2013 Ford Escape and it's been recalled 4 times so far. 3 for engine fires. Currently the car has sat at the dealer for the past 10 days while we drive a Hyundai Tucson rental.

Ive owned many gm products and i think 9/10 of them have caught fire and or left me sitting along the road..i know there is bad and good with every make/model but i have the worst luck with gm and a ford has never left me walking

Terminated
12-10-2012, 04:50 PM
Just because Motor Trend calls it the car of the year doesn't mean it's not junk. Heard about many problems with those model CTS's with the 3.6 as well as the Acadia and Terrain, some even from other members on here.

SK360
12-10-2012, 06:05 PM
Don't think the 3.6's catch on fire like our ecoboost. :lol:

92306gt
12-10-2012, 06:09 PM
Don't think the 3.6's catch on fire like our ecoboost. :lol:

I personally havent heard this but our ecoboost will run circles around our silverados:D

scott5
12-10-2012, 06:16 PM
Ecoboost i used was total JUNK

92306gt
12-10-2012, 06:17 PM
Ecoboost i used was total JUNK

how?

Seer
12-10-2012, 06:20 PM
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_0801_2008_cadillac_cts/viewall.html
Straight Junk.

Funny, we bought a 2013 Ford Escape and it's been recalled 4 times so far. 3 for engine fires. Currently the car has sat at the dealer for the past 10 days while we drive a Hyundai Tucson rental.

so your car has caught fire then or are you just complaining because it's in the shop? At least Ford is being proactive with the issue, unlike my wife's G8 GT that got lemoned and spent 100+ days in the shop for a terrible drive train vibration that GM couldn't figure out.

Black87GT
12-10-2012, 07:00 PM
http://www.motortrend.com/oftheyear/car/112_0801_2008_cadillac_cts/viewall.html
Straight Junk.

Funny, we bought a 2013 Ford Escape and it's been recalled 4 times so far. 3 for engine fires. Currently the car has sat at the dealer for the past 10 days while we drive a Hyundai Tucson rental.

Sounds like you're just swinging GM's nuts hardcore and complaining just to complain, has yours actually caught fire? Or are you just complaining because other peoples have caught fire and theyre making sure yours doesnt, so that means theyre all junk... right?:rofl:

SK360
12-10-2012, 07:02 PM
so your car has caught fire then or are you just complaining because it's in the shop? At least Ford is being proactive with the issue, unlike my wife's G8 GT that got lemoned and spent 100+ days in the shop for a terrible drive train vibration that GM couldn't figure out.

I'm sure it spent 100+ days at the dealer.

Just like you ran a 10.5@quaker

scott5
12-10-2012, 07:05 PM
how?

Shity fuel mileage while towing 8mpg on turnpike. Shaked and rattled when pulling from a stop. Definetly could tell the trailer was back there. Suspension sagged ALOT

Seer
12-10-2012, 07:11 PM
I'm sure it spent 100+ days at the dealer.

Just like you ran a 10.5@quaker

Most certainly did, which is why it was bought back by GM. Her original G8 was grey, new one was white.

How do you get through your days being as stupid as you?

Matt, don't even try and be a know it all, can't accomplish anything on the track on your own, so you try and tear down what others have done. Big baby you are.

Keyboard warrior.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 07:12 PM
Shity fuel mileage while towing 8mpg on turnpike. Shaked and rattled when pulling from a stop. Definetly could tell the trailer was back there. Suspension sagged ALOT

must be a bad one..my cousin has a brown crewcab 4x4 and hauls a boat to erie on a regular basis. not sure on the mileage when the boat is on the back but you dont even know its there. empty he averages 22/23. Fastest truck i have ever driven in 100% stock

92306gt
12-10-2012, 07:12 PM
Shity fuel mileage while towing 8mpg on turnpike. Shaked and rattled when pulling from a stop. Definetly could tell the trailer was back there. Suspension sagged ALOT

how much weight were you hauling?

scott5
12-10-2012, 07:20 PM
Just the ta on open trailer

92306gt
12-10-2012, 07:22 PM
Just the ta on open trailer

this doesnt make sense unless the truck had some issues. these trucks get better then 8 mpg towing 9000+. whos truck was it?

SK360
12-10-2012, 07:23 PM
Most certainly did, which is why it was bought back by GM. Her original G8 was grey, new one was white.

How do you get through your days being as stupid as you?

Matt, don't even try and be a know it all, can't accomplish anything on the track on your own, so you try and tear down what others have done. Big baby you are.

Keyboard warrior.

:rofl:

scott5
12-10-2012, 07:24 PM
Alot of guys seem to have better luck but there also is a 20page thread on bullet conplaining about them

scott5
12-10-2012, 07:25 PM
this doesnt make sense unless the truck had some issues. these trucks get better then 8 mpg towing 9000+. whos truck was it?

Harrers uncles. Its a platinum edition with 32k on the clock

92306gt
12-10-2012, 07:28 PM
Harrers uncles. Its a platinum edition with 32k on the clock

ah fukk it.."put a lsx in it" :rollingfloorrlol:

SonofaBish
12-10-2012, 07:36 PM
So - how come someone has a G8 that has troubles and they're all total junk? (even though there are several on here that have had or still have G8's that run just great)..... but yet, someone has trouble with a Ford, and its not just a single Ford, but a problem with an ENTIRE LINE of cars with the same engine, and "you can't say they're all junk".... "now way that ecoboost would do that... there must be a problem with that one".....

When are you all going to figure out that GM and Ford are in the same boat - neither can come close to the reliability of some of the other manufacturer's out there... I've had several of both and never had an issue with either...

some seriously dumb mo-fo's around this place....... :scratchchin:

92306gt
12-10-2012, 07:41 PM
So - how come someone has a G8 that has troubles and they're all total junk? (even though there are several on here that have had or still have G8's that run just great)..... but yet, someone has trouble with a Ford, and its not just a single Ford, but a problem with an ENTIRE LINE of cars with the same engine, and "you can't say they're all junk".... "now way that ecoboost would do that... there must be a problem with that one".....

When are you all going to figure out that GM and Ford are in the same boat - neither can come close to the reliability of some of the other manufacturer's out there... I've had several of both and never had an issue with either...

some seriously dumb mo-fo's around this place....... :scratchchin:

i said that there is bad and good with all makes/models so if im one of those seriously dumb mo-fos your referring too go f yourself:D

gmkillr
12-10-2012, 07:44 PM
Just like you ran a 10.5@quaker

Whats so hard to believe about a 750 rwhp car running 10.5?

With that kind of power the car should be 9.50 atleast so I dont see how a car running atleast 1 full second (which is a lifetime in the 1/4 mile) slower than it should is hard to believe?

SonofaBish
12-10-2012, 07:47 PM
i'm going to be honest with you here.... i can't decide how much i want to stir the pot, so i'm just going to fix your sentence for you, and go watch Vintage Penguins....


i said that there is bad and good with all makes/models, so if im one of those seriously dumb mo-fos your referring to, go f yourself:D

:sticktonge:

92306gt
12-10-2012, 07:49 PM
i'm going to be honest with you here.... i can't decide how much i want to stir the pot, so i'm just going to fix your sentence for you, and go watch Vintage Penguins....



:sticktonge:

thank you:highfive:

Seer
12-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Whats so hard to believe about a 750 rwhp car running 10.5?

With that kind of power the car should be 9.50 atleast so I dont see how a car running atleast 1 full second (which is a lifetime in the 1/4 mile) slower than it should is hard to believe?

he has an axe to grind for the past five years but can only do it through a keyboard, even our common friends find it pathetic on his part. I appreciate the confidence in feeling itll run 9.50s, I'd hope my driving/second gear lockout issue isnt that bad though. I think having a race weight of 4050lbs, hurts lol.

Cam99
12-10-2012, 08:16 PM
I will be the first one to admit i would get a new 5.0 over a 5th camaro anyday of the week.

How long do you think it would take before the looks of your new 5.0 stopped causing you to experience spontanious dry heaving? :rofl:

Seer
12-10-2012, 08:17 PM
How long do you think it would take before the looks of your new 5.0 stopped causing you to experience spontanious dry heaving? :rofl:

a lot longer before looking at the big land yacht turd bucket 5th gen camaro would.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 08:19 PM
How long do you think it would take before the looks of your new 5.0 stopped causing you to experience spontanious dry heaving? :rofl:

i do this every time i pass a gm dealership:sticktonge:

SK360
12-10-2012, 08:31 PM
:awsome:

5th gens are terrible I think we all can agree

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 08:40 PM
How long do you think it would take before the looks of your new 5.0 stopped causing you to experience spontanious dry heaving? :rofl:


a lot longer before looking at the big land yacht turd bucket 5th gen camaro would.


i do this every time i pass a gm dealership:sticktonge:


:awsome:

5th gens are terrible I think we all can agree

This is because I haven't bought a 5th Gen yet. Two people that I quoted had GTO's when I had mine. Funny that one can mention a big land yacht turd & the other that 5th Gens are terrible. I remember getting some shit when I got rid of my GTO

92306gt
12-10-2012, 08:42 PM
This is because I haven't bought a 5th Gen yet. Two people that I quoted had GTO's when I had mine. Funny that one can mention a big land yacht turd & the other that 5th Gens are terrible. I remember getting some shit when I got rid of my GTO

im one of them:nono:

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 08:44 PM
im one of them:nono:

Unless you have a different screen name now, I was talking about SK360 & SEER

92306gt
12-10-2012, 08:45 PM
Unless you have a different screen name now, I was talking about SK360 & SEER

no same screen name..i had a bolt on 05. guess that makes 3:jump:

Seer
12-10-2012, 08:48 PM
This is because I haven't bought a 5th Gen yet. Two people that I quoted had GTO's when I had mine. Funny that one can mention a big land yacht turd & the other that 5th Gens are terrible. I remember getting some shit when I got rid of my GTO

GTO only weighed like 3600-3700lbs. A new 5.0 weighs about the same. Its suspension and inability to fit a big tire sucked though.

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 08:50 PM
no same screen name..i had a bolt on 05. guess that makes 3:jump:

I had a YellowJacket 05 that was on a little spray. Also had had a Pedders TrackII suspension under it. Could drive it 2.5 hours to Wexford on a Friday & still keep it cleaner than the locals!

92306gt
12-10-2012, 08:52 PM
I had a YellowJacket 05 that was on a little spray. Also had had a Pedders TrackII suspension under it. Could drive it 2.5 hours to Wexford on a Friday & still keep it cleaner than the locals!

my favorite part is the interior:drool5:

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 08:58 PM
GTO only weighed like 3600-3700lbs. A new 5.0 weighs about the same. Its suspension and inability to fit a big tire sucked though.

Try 3860. I do agree about the big tire thing though. My 275 Nittos were tight to the wheelwell on my car

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 08:59 PM
my favorite part is the interior:drool5:

I still miss the interior of mine! However, the IRS & heat soak issues I had to deal with still leave me bitter

Seer
12-10-2012, 09:01 PM
Try 3860. I do agree about the big tire thing though. My 275 Nittos were tight to the wheelwell on my car

maybe with your chubby butt in it... then again, i shouldnt talk lol. :D

I don't miss the interior, the 2010+ Mustang is nicer imo.

92306gt
12-10-2012, 09:02 PM
I still miss the interior of mine! However, the IRS & heat soak issues I had to deal with still leave me bitter

dont even bring up the irs problems. that car almost killed me on more then one occasion. i never cared for the smell of oil and antifreeze either but what do you expect with just shy of 60k:rolleyes:

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 09:05 PM
maybe with your chubby butt in it... then again, i shouldnt talk lol. :D

I don't miss the interior, the 2010+ Mustang is nicer imo.

I was thin back then.

PaxtonShelby
12-10-2012, 09:21 PM
i do this every time i pass a gm dealership:sticktonge:

:rotflol:

Sorry, but that one made me laugh out loud! :rofl:

1320goat
12-10-2012, 09:23 PM
....

Erics89GT
12-10-2012, 09:30 PM
even tho im new to this i perfer the mustang over the camaro anyday, better suspension cheaper to build n imo sounds better

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 09:42 PM
Thank you!

SK360
12-10-2012, 09:54 PM
This is because I haven't bought a 5th Gen yet. Two people that I quoted had GTO's when I had mine. Funny that one can mention a big land yacht turd & the other that 5th Gens are terrible. I remember getting some shit when I got rid of my GTO

At least I could see out of my GTO.

I also liked the different, non forced modern retro thing it had going on.

I was quite happy with the 11.5 outta that land yacht with me driving. (Mighta gone 11.3 with a skinny guy?) lol

Erics89GT
12-10-2012, 10:03 PM
your welcome????? i think however the only thing i like from gm is that the ls motors are pushrod and wst makes for stand out from the rest is the live 8.8 axle and tht tells u the 8.8 is one bad ass rearend

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 10:06 PM
At least I could see out of my GTO.

I also liked the different, non forced modern retro thing it had going on.

I was quite happy with the 11.5 outta that land yacht with me driving. (Mighta gone 11.3 with a skinny guy?) lol

I could see out of my GTO just fine after having it tinted lo I know what you mean about seeing out of a 5th Gen though.

SK360
12-10-2012, 10:11 PM
I could see out of my GTO just fine after having it tinted lo I know what you mean about seeing out of a 5th Gen though.

Was talking about the 5th gen... Forgot your car was tinted actually. ;)

JOlbert
12-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Was talking about the 5th gen... Forgot your car was tinted actually. ;)

After driving a 5th gen & also a new 5.0, I decided that if I was to buy a new toy to mess with, the 5.0 would probably get the nod. I like both cars, the new 5.0 just felt like it was real eager to move out.

92306gt
12-11-2012, 08:54 AM
After driving a 5th gen & also a new 5.0, I decided that if I was to buy a new toy to mess with, the 5.0 would probably get the nod. I like both cars, the new 5.0 just felt like it was real eager to move out.

good choice:innocent:

Terminated
12-11-2012, 10:05 AM
I really wish the Challenger would come out to play in all of these comparisons, but it seems like Dodge is always the odd man out, just like back in the musclecar heyday.

SK360
12-11-2012, 10:07 AM
I really wish the Challenger would come out to play in all of these comparisons, but it seems like Dodge is always the odd man out, just like back in the musclecar heyday.

Almost $15k more to get into a SRT8 Challenger. Easy to see why they aren't in the comparisons.

Terminated
12-11-2012, 10:10 AM
Almost $15k more to get into a SRT8 Challenger. Easy to see why they aren't in the comparisons.

A new 392 Challenger is in the same price range as a Boss 302?

92306gt
12-11-2012, 10:11 AM
Almost $15k more to get into a SRT8 Challenger. Easy to see why they aren't in the comparisons.

appearance:awsome:
performance:thumbsdown:

scott5
12-11-2012, 10:46 AM
Weight

92306gt
12-11-2012, 04:04 PM
Weight

they are heavy but they have lots of cubes under the hood just like the camaro..i know the mustang is the lightest of them all but they by far have the least amount of cubes..gettin r done

scott5
12-11-2012, 04:08 PM
Power to weight. Thats the exact reason the fox is the most drag raced car out there. They weigh next to nothing.

scott5
12-11-2012, 04:10 PM
You could have a 1000rwhp car but if it weights 6k lbs a 500rwhp with 2500lbs will spank it

92306gt
12-11-2012, 04:13 PM
Power to weight. Thats the exact reason the fox is the most drag raced car out there. They weigh next to nothing.

they weigh a few hundred less then a camaro with half the motor:pinkthumb:

scott5
12-11-2012, 04:14 PM
Half the motor? Coyote is only a 3.1L?

scott5
12-11-2012, 04:15 PM
Vette vs 5.0 coyote? Vette wins. Why? Power to weight

92306gt
12-11-2012, 04:18 PM
Vette vs 5.0 coyote? Vette wins. Why? Power to weight
turbo 5.0 coyote vs corvette zr1 - YouTube

03 OW SVT
12-11-2012, 05:11 PM
Vette vs 5.0 coyote? Vette wins. Why? Power to weight

Oh really? Looks like the Vette was losing in the above vid to me. It weights less then that Stang and probably has the same power. Hmmm!

Cam99
12-11-2012, 05:35 PM
I had a GTO and currently a 5th gen and wouldn't trade either for a new 5.0. Wouldn't give a crap if the stang ran 9's @ 11tybillion mph bone stock. Only drag race every so often, have to live with the car every day. Haven't found a stang I like since the end of the 04 model year. Can't argue that the camaro is a bitch to see out of. that much is true.

Seer
12-11-2012, 05:59 PM
Vette vs 5.0 coyote? Vette wins. Why? Power to weight

Boss 302 runs with a base and gs vette in the 1/4 no issues. Don't quote random hero passes. Both are low 12 cars that cost the same.

92306gt
12-11-2012, 06:00 PM
I had a GTO and currently a 5th gen and wouldn't trade either for a new 5.0. Wouldn't give a crap if the stang ran 9's @ 11tybillion mph bone stock. Only drag race every so often, have to live with the car every day. Haven't found a stang I like since the end of the 04 model year. Can't argue that the camaro is a bitch to see out of. that much is true.

I hate the look of the new camaros and imo the interior looks like somehing that came out of my butt, but you did a nice job with yours. I was checking it out down at BROOKS one day. Love the wheels and the color combo..im surprised you hate the look of the new mustangs but everyone has their opinion

PaxtonShelby
12-11-2012, 06:08 PM
I hate the look of the new camaros and imo the interior looks like somehing that came out of my butt..

I speak for all of us here...we'll take your word for it... :hurry:

SK360
12-11-2012, 06:09 PM
Oh really? Looks like the Vette was losing in the above vid to me. It weights less then that Stang and probably has the same power. Hmmm!

Wow a turbo car putting a car length on a bone stock car

Check out this other meaningless video.
http://youtu.be/7PPBrQ5O76U

Cam99
12-11-2012, 06:13 PM
I hate the look of the new camaros and imo the interior looks like somehing that came out of my butt, but you did a nice job with yours. I was checking it out down at BROOKS one day. Love the wheels and the color combo..im surprised you hate the look of the new mustangs but everyone has their opinion

From the front I think...nice. from the side...ehh.from the rear...vomit. Just don't feel them. I personally like the looks of the Challenger the best, but the interior looks like it came from a taxi cab, and the performance per $ just sucks.

I speak for all of us here...we'll take your word for it... :hurry:

lmao

SK360
12-11-2012, 06:14 PM
http://youtu.be/Q3VRXH4q2mY

Seer
12-11-2012, 06:22 PM
Oh wow a ricer roll. Dig race at the strip.

Seer
12-11-2012, 06:22 PM
The stock vettes should run 12 flat but most don't.


How about you run my tune + cai 5.0.

92306gt
12-11-2012, 06:25 PM
From the front I think...nice. from the side...ehh.from the rear...vomit. Just don't feel them. I personally like the looks of the Challenger the best, but the interior looks like it came from a taxi cab, and the performance per $ just sucks.


lmao

The rear should have the gt500 wing stock. The tail lights are bad a$s, you must admit

gmkillr
12-11-2012, 06:29 PM
The stock vettes should run 12 flat but most don't.


How about you run my tune + cai 5.0.

Actually quite a few have been well into the 11's bone stock (11.7) with tons and tons of them going 12.0. The only ones that dont have drivers that are basically rah-tarded.

Fastest ive seen any new 5.0 go is 12.3 with most in the 12.6-12.7 range.

Dont get me wrong the 5.0 is fast as hell for what it is and what it weighs!
I really like them and even considered a new Boss before I decided to go with another Corvette. Truth is I still wouldnt mind owning a new Boss...:veryhappy:

Seer
12-11-2012, 06:32 PM
Tuned auto heavy vert coyote putting it to a c6 LS3
2011 Mustang GT vs. C6 Vette - YouTube

SK360
12-11-2012, 06:33 PM
Oh wow a ricer roll. Dig race at the strip.

Ricer roll was posted first.


Actually quite a few have been well into the 11's bone stock (11.7) with tons and tons of them going 12.0. The only ones that dont have drivers that are basically rah-tarded.

Fastest ive seen any new 5.0 go is 12.3 with most in the 12.6-12.7 range.

Dont get me wrong the 5.0 is fast as hell for what it is and what it weighs!
I really like them and even considered a new Boss before I decided to go with another Corvette. Truth is I still wouldnt mind owning a new Boss...:veryhappy:

Guess I'm rah-tarded... Not exactly a "ton" going 12 flat ;)

Showroom Stock LS3 (2008 - ????)
11.718 @ 119.94 - AndrewZPSU - 08 M6 - (2586)
11.806 @ 118.82 - Gmrulz - 08 A6 Z51, NPP - (3478)
11.974 @ 116.98 - Proney - 08 M6 Z51, NPP - (4652)
12.058 @ 122.05 - AndrewZPSU - 10 A6 NPP - (5051)
12.100 @ 115.19 - Odin - 09 A6 2.73 npp - (4325)
12.102 @ 117.60 - Dingrao - 08 A6 - (3561)
12.127 @ 116.59 - Pettvette - 08 A6 - (4278)
12.159 @ 115.59 - Old Goat - 09 A6 2.73 - (3708)
12.167 @ 117.15 - DarkOctane - 08 A6 NPP - (6310)
12.167 @ 116.54 - Vinsane112 - 08 A6 2.73 - (2740)
12.186 @ 117.72 - Hardhattg - 08 M6 Z51 - (2686)
12.237 @ 112.86 - 940CACC - 08 A6 - (2871)

Seer
12-11-2012, 06:34 PM
Actually quite a few have been well into the 11's bone stock (11.7) with tons and tons of them going 12.0. The only ones that dont have drivers that are basically rah-tarded.

Fastest ive seen any new 5.0 go is 12.3 with most in the 12.6-12.7 range.

Dont get me wrong the 5.0 is fast as hell for what it is and what it weighs!
I really like them and even considered a new Boss before I decided to go with another Corvette. Truth is I still wouldnt mind owning a new Boss...:veryhappy:

Pretty sure only a small handful of people have ran 11s in a stock c6 according to the corvette forums.

I know this is not a apples to apples but add a basic sct tune and its a dead even race.

The hero pass record for a coyote powered mustang is a 12.1, again hero pass.

Roadrunner powered was 11.9.

Trick with the new 5.0 is its aggressive gearing.

SK360
12-11-2012, 06:35 PM
Tuned auto heavy vert coyote putting it to a c6 LS3
2011 Mustang GT vs. C6 Vette - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM6u3VJg8Jk&sns=em)

Both 6 speed manuals as per video description

Seer
12-11-2012, 06:41 PM
Both 6 speed manuals as per video description

Oops. In that case its a handicap for the coyote. Tune autos run stronger.

gmkillr
12-11-2012, 06:42 PM
Hey nobody can accuse me of being loyal to only 1 brand. Ive owned Mustangs all my life and love them, Ive had a couple Vettes and Imy daily driver is a brand New Hemi Ram....lol

I spread the love around, I think theres alot of sweet cars out there!

Seer
12-11-2012, 06:45 PM
Hey nobody can accuse me of being loyal to only 1 brand. Ive owned Mustangs all my life and love them, Ive had a couple Vettes and Imy daily driver is a brand New Hemi Ram....lol

I spread the love around, I think theres alot of sweet cars out there!

I'm the same way. I buy the current performer. I do have a soft spot for mustangs.

Cam99
12-11-2012, 06:53 PM
The rear should have the gt500 wing stock. The tail lights are bad a$s, you must admit

The new taillights are a big improvement

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:32 PM
tune this, tune that. blah blah blah...

STOCK FOR STOCK..

coyote> 5th gen camar
Vette > coyote mustang
13 Gt500 > vette
z06 > 13 GT500

And GM still has the Zr1 in their pocket

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:36 PM
ZR1 vs Viper and GT500 - All American Battle - YouTube

Here ya go for the oh tune this and add this and it will keep up blah blah bs

BONE STOCK Zr1 vs Bolt-on and tuned gt500

And the zr1 even tracked down and passed the gt500 after he left early

Seer
12-11-2012, 07:36 PM
tune this, tune that. blah blah blah...

STOCK FOR STOCK..

coyote> 5th gen camar
Vette > coyote mustang
13 Gt500 > vette
z06 > 13 GT500

And GM still has the Zr1 in their pocket

11-2013 GT500 > Vette

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:38 PM
The stock vettes should run 12 flat but most don't.


How about you run my tune + cai 5.0.




Showroom Stock LS3 (2008 - ????)
11.718 @ 119.94 - AndrewZPSU - 08 M6 - (2586)
11.806 @ 118.82 - Gmrulz - 08 A6 Z51, NPP - (3478)
11.974 @ 116.98 - Proney - 08 M6 Z51, NPP - (4652)
12.058 @ 122.05 - AndrewZPSU - 10 A6 NPP - (5051)
12.100 @ 115.19 - Odin - 09 A6 2.73 npp - (4325)
12.102 @ 117.60 - Dingrao - 08 A6 - (3561)
12.127 @ 116.59 - Pettvette - 08 A6 - (4278)
12.159 @ 115.59 - Old Goat - 09 A6 2.73 - (3708)
12.167 @ 117.15 - DarkOctane - 08 A6 NPP - (6310)
12.167 @ 116.54 - Vinsane112 - 08 A6 2.73 - (2740)
12.186 @ 117.72 - Hardhattg - 08 M6 Z51 - (2686)
12.237 @ 112.86 - 940CACC - 08 A6 - (2871)


Pretty sure only a small handful of people have ran 11s in a stock c6 according to the corvette forums.

I know this is not a apples to apples but add a basic sct tune and its a dead even race.

The hero pass record for a coyote powered mustang is a 12.1, again hero pass.

Roadrunner powered was 11.9.

Trick with the new 5.0 is its aggressive gearing.

with that many at many different tracks I would say those arent hero runs. You wanna do hero runs.

So me any ford mass produced that go 10s right off showroom floor even once.

Seer
12-11-2012, 07:38 PM
ZR1 vs Viper and GT500 - All American Battle - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sa9NKDwlV70)

Here ya go for the oh tune this and add this and it will keep up blah blah bs

BONE STOCK Zr1 vs Bolt-on and tuned gt500

And the zr1 even tracked down and passed the gt500 after he left early

I find it more impressive on the Mustang's part to be able to compete with a 630hp Corvette especially since that Mustang weighs over 2 tons with its driver.

At the end of the day the GT500's real competitor is the ZL1... care to see how much of an ass beating that match up is for Chevy?

Seer
12-11-2012, 07:39 PM
with that many at many different tracks I would say those arent hero runs. You wanna do hero runs.

So me any ford mass produced that go 10s right off showroom floor even once.

Do you want to go here? Want to know the law's definition of mass production? Choose your words better, because mass production is defined at 50 units FYI. I could pull out the Cobra Jet but I won't.

Ford does not make a light weight 2 seater sports car that costs over $100,000.

Before you say the Z06 is a 10 second car... sure in the hands of 1 guy on a hero pass. The Z06 by definition is not a 10 second car though.

92306gt
12-11-2012, 07:41 PM
[QUOTE=SK360;325052]Ricer roll was posted first.

i posted the roll vid because im more impressed that a shitstang, i mean mustang pulled on a super car, i mean corvette up top. this is the strong point for a vette, we all know. ive taken out quite a few vettes from a dig with a h/c/i 306 fox.

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:41 PM
I find it more impressive on the Mustang's part to be able to compete with a 630hp Corvette especially since that Mustang weighs over 2 tons with its driver.

At the end of the day the GT500's real competitor is the ZL1... care to see how much of an ass beating that match up is for Chevy?

So ford cant come up with anything for the vette? Seems not

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:43 PM
Do you want to go here? Want to know the law's definition of mass production? Choose your words better, because mass production is defined at 50 units FYI. I could pull out the Cobra Jet but I won't.

Ford does not make a light weight 2 seater sports car that costs over $100,000.

Before you say the Z06 is a 10 second car... sure in the hands of 1 guy on a hero pass. The Z06 by definition is not a 10 second car though.


show me a ford that has gone 10s ONCE

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:44 PM
[QUOTE=SK360;325052]Ricer roll was posted first.

i posted the roll vid because im more impressed that a shitstang, i mean mustang pulled on a super car, i mean corvette up top. this is the strong point for a vette, we all know. ive taken out quite a few vettes from a dig with a h/c/i 306 fox.

its the 347s that have problems lol

Seer
12-11-2012, 07:46 PM
show me a ford that has gone 10s ONCE

I can't. Ford does not make a light weight, high horsepower vehicle.

I have a funner one though. Show me a car you own that can beat me :D

92306gt
12-11-2012, 07:50 PM
Hey nobody can accuse me of being loyal to only 1 brand. Ive owned Mustangs all my life and love them, Ive had a couple Vettes and Imy daily driver is a brand New Hemi Ram....lol

I spread the love around, I think theres alot of sweet cars out there!

i agree and i have had many, many gm and ford products but i just have the worst luck with gm. i have great luck with the furds so for me its only common sense to stick with what treats me better..would like to have a c6z at some point(did i say that out loud?)

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:51 PM
i agree and i have had many, many gm and ford products but i just have the worst luck with gm. i have great luck with the furds so for me its only common sense to stick with what treats me better..would like to have a c6z at some point(did i say that out loud?)

Remember the black SS that caught fire in Mcdonalds parking lot. LMAO.. it would wipe up the road with any car up there and then catches on fire and we throw coke and you throw mulch on it lmao

Seer
12-11-2012, 07:52 PM
Scott... why can't GM make anything that competes with the Lamborghini Aventador?

Why is a 6cyl nissan as fast as the ZR1 if not faster, costs the same too.

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:53 PM
I can't. Ford does not make a light weight, high horsepower vehicle.

I have a funner one though. Show me a car you own that can beat me :D

Will do, but its only going to be a 5k build that was gone over already in this thread:goodidea:

Btw.. You ever figure out your suspension problems? I think that was you atleast having rear suspension problems and it not hooking right? Or do i got you mixed up with someone else

scott5
12-11-2012, 07:55 PM
Scott... why can't GM make anything that competes with the Lamborghini Aventador?

Why is a 6cyl nissan as fast as the ZR1 if not faster, costs the same too.

What are the times an Aventador run?

cause GTR > all. Me looking for one for a dd!

SK360
12-11-2012, 07:58 PM
http://youtu.be/cVw3-vNxzRc

Seer
12-11-2012, 08:01 PM
Will do, but its only going to be a 5k build that was gone over already in this thread:goodidea:

Btw.. You ever figure out your suspension problems? I think that was you atleast having rear suspension problems and it not hooking right? Or do i got you mixed up with someone else

Another lsx into a fox? Oh boy. :)

Sortve. My second gear lock out issue came back so getting it into second had some hesitation when ot wanted to work or full b lown lockout. But it was running solid mid 10s at 136-137. On 1.6 60s. Doesnt take much to assume what it will do on a 1.4x or low 1.5. Still just on the 93 octane 18psi tune. I have a 110 octane tune with 22psi as well oncr I work the kinks out :)

92306gt
12-11-2012, 08:01 PM
[quote=92306gt;325070]

its the 347s that have problems lol

not mine:D

gmkillr
12-11-2012, 08:02 PM
Scott... why can't GM make anything that competes with the Lamborghini Aventador?

Why is a 6cyl nissan as fast as the ZR1 if not faster, costs the same too.


Now your bringing a $400K car into the equation?

The GTR is about as quick as the ZR1 for a little less money so Nissan defiantly has a hit there. My little bro actually has a 2013 GTR and its pretty quick, he has gone 10.79 bone stock. Super fast car but not really my cup of tea.....:veryhappy:

scott5
12-11-2012, 08:03 PM
Another lsx into a fox? Oh boy. :)

Sortve. My second gear lock out issue came back so getting it into second had some hesitation when ot wanted to work or full b lown lockout. But it was running solid mid 10s at 136-137. On 1.6 60s. Doesnt take much to assume what it will do on a 1.4x or low 1.5. Still just on the 93 octane 18psi tune. I have a 110 octane tune with 22psi as well oncr I work the kinks out :)

No, I hate fox's.. Next body style up..

I think its do able. I wonder why Fords has the shifting issue. Wickedsnake03 on here HATES how his 03 Cobra shifts

Seer
12-11-2012, 08:05 PM
Now your bringing a $400K car into the equation?

The GTR is about as quick as the ZR1 for a little less money so Nissan defiantly has a hit there. My little bro actually has a 2013 GTR and its pretty quick, he has gone 10.79 bone stock. Super fast car but not really my cup of tea.....:veryhappy:

Yes, I am being as ridiculous as scott is comparing a $100-120k Corvette to a $56-70k GT500. My post was oozing sarcasm :D

I know your brother, I usually grab a bite/beer with him every week or so.

scott5
12-11-2012, 08:06 PM
ZR1 Smokes GT-R: Chevy Corvette ZR1 vs. Nissan GT-R - YouTube

92306gt
12-11-2012, 08:06 PM
Remember the black SS that caught fire in Mcdonalds parking lot. LMAO.. it would wipe up the road with any car up there and then catches on fire and we throw coke and you throw mulch on it lmao

ooo i do remember..it was all i had to try and smother the fire..i got sick of having to jump out of my GMs to put the fire out and i hated the fact that i knew i had to work on them almost everytime i drove them

Seer
12-11-2012, 08:07 PM
What are the times an Aventador run?




Lamborghini says around 10.3-10.4 with handling that makes a ZR1 look dumb.

scott5
12-11-2012, 08:08 PM
Yes, I am being as ridiculous as scott is comparing a $100-120k Corvette to a $56-70k GT500. My post was oozing sarcasm :D

I know your brother, I usually grab a bite/beer with him every week or so.

siilliness:pepper:

Seer
12-11-2012, 08:09 PM
ZR1 Smokes GT-R: Chevy Corvette ZR1 vs. Nissan GT-R - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC-PQca6FJU)

GT-R got some massive upgrades in 2012. That comparison is from 2008. GT-R was a mid 11 second car or so in 2008, they run high 10s with ease with the 2012-2013 models.

92306gt
12-11-2012, 08:09 PM
i knew this thread would get things goin on around here:woot1:

scott5
12-11-2012, 08:12 PM
i knew this thread would get things goin on around here:woot1:

boom!

Seer
12-11-2012, 08:17 PM
Stock 2013 GT-R
2013 Nissan GT-R 0-60 MPH in 2.7 seconds Launch Control LC5 Demonstration (Stock) - YouTube

Against each other (ZR-1 driver needs to learn how to drive)
2013 Nissan GTR GT-R 10.87 @ 125 vs Corvette ZR1 (shifter issue) - Drag Race Video - Road Test TV - YouTube

Heres a few stock ZR1s racing, man ZR1 owners suck at driving
ZR1 vs ZR1 - 638 hp Corvette ZR1 vs. 2011 ZR1 LS9 Supercharged - 2 Drag Race Videos - Road Test TV - YouTube

Seer
12-11-2012, 08:19 PM
No, I hate fox's.. Next body style up..

I think its do able. I wonder why Fords has the shifting issue. Wickedsnake03 on here HATES how his 03 Cobra shifts

Syncros were replaced, so were the blocker rings and both first and second gear.

Still grinds

Clutch and Ford OEM shifter both replaced with revised pieces... still grinds

MGW Shifter, CHE K Member Brace w/Torque limiters and Steeda motor mounts are going on as I type this. This should resolve the issue... its the remote mounted shifter and hydraulic clutch

gmkillr
12-11-2012, 08:25 PM
LMAO at the guys posting bias videos of what they like....lmao

I can find 100 videos to prove or dis-prove any car so if you guys think your proving a damn thing by posting these bias videos then your only fooling yourself!

92306gt
12-11-2012, 08:29 PM
LMAO at the guys posting bias videos of what they like....lmao

I can find 100 videos to prove or dis-prove any car so if you guys think your proving a damn thing by posting these bias videos then your only fooling yourself!

Sorry:worried:

Seer
12-11-2012, 08:31 PM
LMAO at the guys posting bias videos of what they like....lmao

I can find 100 videos to prove or dis-prove any car so if you guys think your proving a damn thing by posting these bias videos then your only fooling yourself!

You have to see the sarcasm :D Point is, anyone can find a video of X car beating Y car.

gmkillr
12-11-2012, 08:40 PM
You have to see the sarcasm :D Point is, anyone can find a video of X car beating Y car.

Exactly......:biglaugh:

SK360
12-11-2012, 08:43 PM
A comparison where those cars belong...
http://youtu.be/cVw3-vNxzRc

Buy what you want. This can go round and round.

speedracer
12-11-2012, 09:02 PM
I wonder why Fords has the shifting issue. Wickedsnake03 on here HATES how his 03 Cobra shifts
My T56 is the shit... couldn't ask for a better shifting transmission.

92306gt
12-11-2012, 09:13 PM
My T56 is the shit... couldn't ask for a better shifting transmission.

must be that driver mod...my t56 shifts good too..maybe its just the black ones:3gears:

Cam99
12-11-2012, 09:17 PM
T-56 awesome,
TR6060 Poopy, especially in Fords :awsome:

92306gt
12-11-2012, 09:18 PM
T-56 awesome,
TR6060 Poopy, especially in Fords :awsome:
has anyone tried different fluid??

Cam99
12-11-2012, 09:19 PM
Syncros were replaced, so were the blocker rings and both first and second gear.

Still grinds

Clutch and Ford OEM shifter both replaced with revised pieces... still grinds

MGW Shifter, CHE K Member Brace w/Torque limiters and Steeda motor mounts are going on as I type this. This should resolve the issue... its the remote mounted shifter and hydraulic clutch

With the money spent on ur shit shifting Cobra my 99 could be in the 9's:D

scott5
12-11-2012, 09:29 PM
My T56 is the shit... couldn't ask for a better shifting transmission.


must be that driver mod...my t56 shifts good too..maybe its just the black ones:3gears:

90% of the guys on svtp would disagree lol

scott5
12-11-2012, 09:30 PM
With the money spent on ur shit shifting Cobra my 99 could be in the 9's:D

Thought you sold that?

92306gt
12-11-2012, 09:40 PM
90% of the guys on svtp would disagree lol

well 90% of guys probly dont have the driver mod duh..most imprtant mod

speedracer
12-11-2012, 09:43 PM
well 90% of guys probly dont have the driver mod duh..most imprtant mod
^^^ This

Cam99
12-11-2012, 09:53 PM
Thought you sold that?

Technically I did, however its still in my name,soooooooo

OK with the money SEER spent on his shit shifting Cobra I could have the s10 sitting in the driveway running 9's

92306gt
12-11-2012, 09:55 PM
^^^ This

especially at prp..may even be higher then 90% there. half the guys i see cant even stage their damn car right

92306gt
12-11-2012, 09:55 PM
Technically I did, however its still in my name,soooooooo

OK with the money SEER spent on his shit shifting Cobra I could have the s10 sitting in the driveway running 9's

yea but no matter what its still a gay ass s10:yes:

speedracer
12-11-2012, 10:00 PM
especially at prp..may even be higher then 90% there. half the guys i see cant even stage their damn car right
When did you get a black Cobra?

92306gt
12-11-2012, 10:04 PM
When did you get a black Cobra?

mid summer..ive missed my mystichrome since i sold it and had to have another. i had to sell it for a down payment for the house i bought last year.

speedracer
12-11-2012, 10:06 PM
mid summer..ive missed my mystichrome since i sold it and had to have another. i had to sell it for a down payment for the house i bought last year.
Thats right...

JOlbert
12-11-2012, 10:34 PM
Everything>GTR. God, I hate those fugly things, possibly more than I hate Supras! Since when did Nissan become a "Exotic" or "Supercar" manufacturer? Sure the hideous things run good, but when you're that ugly you have to be able to do something right.

Seer
12-11-2012, 10:43 PM
With the money spent on ur shit shifting Cobra my 99 could be in the 9's:D

You can run 9's on $500? Because thats all I have personally into the transmission of my car.

MGW shifter and Torque Limiters.

Seer
12-11-2012, 10:45 PM
T-56 awesome,
TR6060 Poopy, especially in Fords :awsome:

TR6060 is actually a much better transmission than the T56, there really is no dispute to this.

What makes it not work properly is the garbage hydraulic clutch system FORD designed to go with it and the garbage remote mounted shifter setup.

Seer
12-11-2012, 10:46 PM
has anyone tried different fluid??

Yea, its not a fluid thing. This is actually a very very common issue that affects the 2010-2013 GT500, C6, Viper and Camaro. It's the remote mounted shifters that suck balls on these cars due to torque bind.

92306gt
12-11-2012, 10:47 PM
Everything>GTR. God, I hate those fugly things, possibly more than I hate Supras! Since when did Nissan become a "Exotic" or "Supercar" manufacturer? Sure the hideous things run good, but when you're that ugly you have to be able to do something right.

:iagree:

i do like supras though but they are way more overpriced than the 03-04 cobras by far

Seer
12-11-2012, 10:50 PM
Everything>GTR. God, I hate those fugly things, possibly more than I hate Supras! Since when did Nissan become a "Exotic" or "Supercar" manufacturer? Sure the hideous things run good, but when you're that ugly you have to be able to do something right.

GT-R is like a fat girl. Not much to look at, but knows how to give a good blow job.

Can't argue that is performs better than a lot of cars stock for stock. Runs 10.70s off the showroom floor with stock 20" radials.

JOlbert
12-11-2012, 10:51 PM
It's really a shame that all these overpriced new cars have a junk transmission. Blame the shitty shifting on whatever you want, its over engineered garbage that apparently doesn't work.

Seer
12-11-2012, 10:53 PM
It's really a shame that all these overpriced new cars have a junk transmission. Blame the shitty shifting on whatever you want, its over engineered garbage that apparently doesn't work.

The transmission tremec designed (TR6060) is quite good. It's the garbage hydraulics and shifter Ford designed around it, suck balls.

I am hoping my MGW, torque limiters and motor mounts solves this torque bind issue so the remote mount has some chance of shifting 1>2

If this doesn't fix it, I may go off the deep end and have a 4R100 put in, ****er should crack off a 9 something then lol.

JOlbert
12-11-2012, 10:55 PM
The transmission tremec designed (TR6060) is quite good. It's the garbage hydraulics and shifter Ford designed around it, suck balls.

I am hoping my MGW, torque limiters and motor mounts solves this torque bind issue so the remote mount has some chance of shifting 1>2

Let me know how the mounts & limiters work out for you, I know a guy that has similar issues with his Shelby

Seer
12-11-2012, 10:58 PM
Let me know how the mounts & limiters work out for you, I know a guy that has similar issues with his Shelby

Ya, Ray. He and I have been mf'ing these trannies for some time now. My car has been at the dealer for two rounds of warranty work.

first round was the syncros, gears, blockers etc replaced
second round was a revised clutch and revised ford shifter

When they replaced the internals there was some chewed up teeth, but neither solved the problem.

Dealer agreed to install the other parts to see if they fix things.

SonofaBish
12-12-2012, 07:39 AM
I must be in the minority... i think the GT-R is a pretty damn good looking car... i'd sport one as a DD if i had the $$ laying around.....

Only thing i don't like is that since it was the second coming of God to the import scene, everywhere you go, you'd have some dude in his honda civic humping your leg....

scott5
12-12-2012, 08:15 AM
Auto > manual

SAC81
12-12-2012, 08:19 AM
If this doesn't fix it, I may go off the deep end and have a 4R100 put in, ****er should crack off a 9 something then lol.


Do this.

92306gt
12-12-2012, 08:22 AM
Auto > manual

:postwhore::postwhore::postwhore:

scott5
12-12-2012, 09:16 AM
:lies:

speedracer
12-12-2012, 09:16 AM
Auto > manual

Yea... If you live your life 1/4 mile at a time and can't drive.

scott5
12-12-2012, 09:16 AM
Yea... If you live your life 1/4 mile at a time and can't drive.

Better, cheaper, more comfy. Sounds like a bunch of win to me.

JOlbert
12-12-2012, 09:17 AM
Auto > manual

Nobody cares what you think. lol You just don't know how to drive something with 3 pedals. Now go cook Greg his breakfast!

92306gt
12-12-2012, 09:19 AM
Nobody cares what you think. lol You just don't know how to drive something with 3 pedals. Now go cook Greg his breakfast!

im hungry

JOlbert
12-12-2012, 09:19 AM
Yea... If you live your life 1/4 mile at a time and can't drive.

Scott has made a few passes down the track Greg. Didn't you know he's a pro at it

u1arunit
12-12-2012, 09:31 AM
I must be in the minority... i think the GT-R is a pretty damn good looking car... i'd sport one as a DD if i had the $$ laying around.....

Only thing i don't like is that since it was the second coming of God to the import scene, everywhere you go, you'd have some dude in his honda civic humping your leg....

GT-R looks like doggie do to me. I like the performance but looks.. meh.. ;)

travj31
12-12-2012, 09:36 AM
I agree... there are countless other ways I would rather spend my money than buy a GTR


GT-R looks like doggie do to me. I like the performance but looks.. meh.. ;)

Terminated
12-12-2012, 09:39 AM
I agree... there are countless other ways I would rather spend my money than buy a GTR

I'd take a 911 all day over a GTR

u1arunit
12-12-2012, 10:27 AM
I'd take a 911 all day over a GTR

Me too and I work for a Nissan dealer. ;)

Seer
12-12-2012, 10:32 AM
Yea... If you live your life 1/4 mile at a time and can't drive.

Or if ford.doesnt know how to fix thousands of tr6060s.

Its that or go direct mount t56 magnum.

speedracer
12-12-2012, 10:56 AM
Nobody cares what you think. lol You just don't know how to drive something with 3 pedals. Now go cook Greg his breakfast!

It's almost noon... I want a samich

scott5
12-12-2012, 02:35 PM
I pay people to make me food..

Sheetz cheesesticks ftw

scott5
12-12-2012, 02:36 PM
Scott has made a few passes down the track Greg. Didn't you know he's a pro at it

Quicker than you :)

03 OW SVT
12-12-2012, 02:39 PM
I'd take a 911 TURBO all day over a GTR

Fixed it for ya Dan. At least thats what i would take over a GT-R. My favorite Exotic.

Terminated
12-12-2012, 03:20 PM
Fixed it for ya Dan. At least thats what i would take over a GT-R. My favorite Exotic.

Touché

Cam99
12-12-2012, 05:34 PM
yea but no matter what its still a gay ass s10:yes:

That's why it's currently getting parted out. I have no love for the s10's