New Ford GT

[1320goat]

http://jalopnik.com/ford-gt-this-is-it-1678893649?rev=1421073124631
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[Rodeheaver's]

Sick!

[RUTHLESS]

Drool!

Just not crazy about the 600hp and the v6. The Hellcat is at 707hp why cant we get a super car there?

[Cam99]

omg omg omg I want one!

[travj31]

Call me crazy, but I like the originals and mid 2000's models better.

[PaxtonShelby]

Looks amazing. Better than the stuff from Italy! I bet it will be pricey!

If I hit the lottery...I will have one. Freaking gorgeous from every angle!

[1320goat]

Looks amazing. Better than the stuff from Italy! I bet it will be pricey! When are details going to be released?
I'm not sure. I didn't know they were unveiling it today.

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[Stangman701]

Looks bad ass, but the GT needs a V8 end of story.

[u1arunit]

Call me crazy, but I like the originals and mid 2000's models better.

You're not crazy. Me too!

[speedracer]

Drool!

Just not crazy about the 600hp and the v6. The Hellcat is at 707hp why cant we get a super car there?

the hell cat weighs over 2 and a 1/4 tons.. GTRs move out nicely for only having a V6. I agree it should have a V8 though

[TBone7281]

Looks awesome, but I do wonder what their reasoning is behind using the ecoboost. I get that they're pushing it for performance uses and are even using it for racing endeavors... but this is supposed to be a halo car. (Remember "the pace car for an entire company"?) This sort of reminds me of the XJ220; concept car had a V12 and production ended up being the turbo 6. Performance was still obviously good, but it doesn't quite roll off the tongue in the same way.

I wonder how much the block/stock turbos have left in them with the addition of some mods.

[pwtmxracing]

Call me crazy, but I like the originals and mid 2000's models better.
Me too

[Stangman701]

It does at least sound pretty good...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr4hdSlN6Tg

[SlowSix]

While I enjoy v8 guys getting angry about non-v8s in stuff, I agree that I think this should have been a v8.
A turbo v8 would have been cool IMO, and not really something you see from a manufacturer. Car looks good though.
Hopefully it has similar potential to the gtr. The gtr is a monster and pretty awesome in regards to how far automotive engineering has come

[SK360]

I think it looks great and think the ecoboost is a great choice.

[scott5]

I like it and I think it will fit well in the supercar category.. I can't wait to hear the C7Z owners now crying cuz they got beat by a 6cyl..

[travj31]

I just read a report that Chevrolet already had a mid engine Corvette in the works and Could potentially be reviewed sometime in the next year so

[scott5]

the hell cat weighs over 2 and a 1/4 tons.. GTRs move out nicely for only having a V6. I agree it should have a V8 though

Hellcat also goes 10.4s at 133 with drag radials and race gas only

[Ares]

Wow that is a beautiful car.

[Red98GT]

Love it. Just wish it was a v8.

[SK360]

Hellcat also goes 10.4s at 133 with drag radials and race gas only

And rolls over when it sees a turn.

[no1sirbutler]

I think the ecoboost engine is a good idea.....i believe it will lead to great things like maybe an ecoboost V8 engine

[Stangman701]

I think the ecoboost engine is a good idea.....i believe it will lead to great things like maybe an ecoboost V8 engine

I'm starting to think the opposite. I was really hoping for an ecoboost V8, but if they don't put it in the GT, I guess our last hope would be the next GT500 if there is one.

[PaxtonShelby]

That puppy sounded pretty mean. Imagine what it sounds like at full song!!!

I don't care what motor is in it - as long as it hauls ass and sounds amazing. The car sure has killer looks.

[thedak]

Love it

[RedCandyCoyote]

Saw an article that said price is be more than 140k which is what the old ones cost new

[mustang50lx]

I think they are showcasing the ecoboost. I hate to even say it, but I think the writing is on the wall for the V8. I think a V8 in a passenger car will be a thing of the past sooner than any-one wants to believe. IMO the horsepower wars we are seeing with cars like the Hellcat and GT500 will soon end too.

[cwh19]

I'm pretty sure they used the 3.5 for two reasons.

1. Marketing. The ecoboost name is the future of Ford. In the release, Bill Ford used the term many times.

2. With this motor, the car will fit in the GTE Le Mans class. Ford is producing this car to compete in Europe as well as just being a production car. In this class, a forced induction motor is limited to 4.0L. It also has to be a powerplant used in another production vehicle.

[95V6]

I like it. No V8 is a let down to its heritage, but times change. I would however like to see it in the classic Gulf colors.

[1320goat]

I was surprised to see it wasn't v8 powered. I'm not turned off by the fact it has a ttv6, I just can't wait to see how it performs

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[Seer]

Fun facts about this engine. It's been testing to make over 1200hp when modded with larger turbos but stock internals. It can make almost 900whp with just porting the stock turbos and new wheels with some aggressive tuning and fuel.

The car has a carbon fiber monocoque and will weigh sub 3000. It's suppose to out perform the MacLaren 650s

[gmkillr]

Fun facts about this engine. It's been testing to make over 1200hp when modded with larger turbos but stock internals. It can make almost 900whp with just porting the stock turbos and new wheels with some aggressive tuning and fuel.

The car has a carbon fiber monocoque and will weigh sub 3000. It's suppose to out perform the MacLaren 650s


LMAO.......Just like the 2015 Mustang was suppose to be 400lbs lighter and be atleast 500hp?
Do you believe everything you read?

[Seer]

I do when the chief engineer from ford who designed it says it on record at the show.

Same with the program manager who has run the same engine in the Daytona prototype. You do realize this engine has been in use already right? Or do you think they just shove the engine from the Taurus sho in a light weight body, turned up the boost and called it good?

Hmm, carbon fiber monocoque, aluminum front and rear section, cf body.

This isn't a $35,000-$45,000 mustang. This car will most likely cost over $250,000. Are you also aware of fords liberal use of carbon fiber and aluminum to lighten all of their vehicles over the next five years to increase performance, and fuel economy right? Cars like this as technology demonstrators and then various features of this tech filters down into their regular lineups.

If you want to talk about let downs lets talk about the c7 z06. Great car for less than two minutes.

We all know how terrific the last gen GT was when it came out. especially it's aftermarket potential. Ford doesn't have a track record of going backwards in performance since the 80s.

[GOT SVT]

when I was Detroit last week I heard 2 prices from ford people and a lot of I can't say

1. more than the new acura nsx ( which is in around $200K )

2. $475,000

they are only making 27 a year for 5 years

it is designed to compete with the supercars

[travj31]

So only 135 total production units over 5 years? I find that hard to believe from Ford in this day and age. If so, that's awesome but I think if they see that there is a market for it and people are actually willing to put up the cash, that number will be increased to fill the demand.

Back around 05/06 I remember hearing directly from a Ford executive that the then upcoming GT500 would be limited to a total production run of 7,500 over 3 years (07, 08, and 09). Needless to say we all know that they made far more than for another 5 years until 2014.


when I was Detroit last week I heard 2 prices from ford people and a lot of I can't say

1. more than the new acura nsx ( which is in around $200K )

2. $475,000

they are only making 27 a year for 5 years

it is designed to compete with the supercars

[thedak]

I can def see it around the 250-350k range.

[PaxtonShelby]

It is going to be amazing - can't wait to see and hear one in person.

[Seer]

Ill bet production will be higher. Ford has said the McLaren 650S was the benchmark for performance so I'd bet they will also exceed their production numbers as well yearly.

[gmkillr]

I do when the chief engineer from ford who designed it says it on record at the show.

Same with the program manager who has run the same engine in the Daytona prototype. You do realize this engine has been in use already right? Or do you think they just shove the engine from the Taurus sho in a light weight body, turned up the boost and called it good?

Hmm, carbon fiber monocoque, aluminum front and rear section, cf body.

This isn't a $35,000-$45,000 mustang. This car will most likely cost over $250,000. Are you also aware of fords liberal use of carbon fiber and aluminum to lighten all of their vehicles over the next five years to increase performance, and fuel economy right? Cars like this as technology demonstrators and then various features of this tech filters down into their regular lineups.

If you want to talk about let downs lets talk about the c7 z06. Great car for less than two minutes.

We all know how terrific the last gen GT was when it came out. especially it's aftermarket potential. Ford doesn't have a track record of going backwards in performance since the 80s.

So your still buying all of the "magazine quotes" that you bought with the Mustang GT? Thought you may have learned your lesson on that one especially after pretty much all of it was just hype. Literally none of your claims on the 2015 Mustang were even close to being true.

You claimed it:
1. Was going to be 400 lbs lighter than the 2014's......:rofl:
2. It was going to be atleast 500hp.......:redface:
3. It was going to run mid 11's right off the showroom floor........:wave:

Reality:
1. Car weighed 86lbs MORE than the 2014's
2. Car makes 435 hp
3. Car runs mid to high 12's


Would you care to make a public wager that the car will weigh over 3K?

What does the C7Z06 have to do with the Ford GT? I thought this thread was talking about the GT?

[SonofaBish]

What does the C7Z06 have to do with the Ford GT? I thought this thread was talking about the GT?

Dear Seer,

The above is a rhetorical question - no one here cares about your response.

Yours truly,
Steel City Muscle Cars non-Management

[SonofaBish]

I've never liked the way the hood looks, but nonetheless a sweet looking car! However, to say that it's better looking than the Italians is a bit of a ford-biased stretch imho.

[SK360]

Dear Seer,

The above is a rhetorical question - no one here cares about your response.

Yours truly,
Steel City Muscle Cars non-Management

:devilish:

[scott5]

when I was Detroit last week I heard 2 prices from ford people and a lot of I can't say

1. more than the new acura nsx ( which is in around $200K )

2. $475,000

they are only making 27 a year for 5 years

it is designed to compete with the supercars

Thank goodness for employment pricing because the number an engineer paid was not close to that for a NSX

[scott5]

We will see when it comes out on pricing and power and so on.

But man 900 whp SHO with a couple mods out of the ecoboost that's crazy!

[Seer]

So your still buying all of the "magazine quotes" that you bought with the Mustang GT? Thought you may have learned your lesson on that one especially after pretty much all of it was just hype. Literally none of your claims on the 2015 Mustang were even close to being true.

You claimed it:
1. Was going to be 400 lbs lighter than the 2014's......:rofl:
2. It was going to be atleast 500hp.......:redface:
3. It was going to run mid 11's right off the showroom floor........:wave:

Reality:
1. Car weighed 86lbs MORE than the 2014's
2. Car makes 435 hp
3. Car runs mid to high 12's


Would you care to make a public wager that the car will weigh over 3K?

What does the C7Z06 have to do with the Ford GT? I thought this thread was talking about the GT?what does a 2015 gt have to do with the ford gt?

I I bought a car that I liked.

[Seer]

Dear Seer,

The above is a rhetorical question - no one here cares about your response.

Yours truly,
Steel City Muscle Cars non-ManagementThen block me. Problem solved.

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[PaxtonShelby]

Sex on wheels right there.

[gmkillr]

Heres a few pics I snapped of it from the NAIAS in Detroit.

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[1320goat]

How does it look in person? Better? Worse?

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[PaxtonShelby]

That blue is perfect. The only color I'd consider switching to from SGM.

[gmkillr]

How does it look in person? Better? Worse?

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Its absolutely amazing! Car looks badazz!

Im kinda torn between it and the new NSX....

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[1320goat]

Nsx is sexy.

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[u1arunit]

Liking the NSX!!

[travj31]

NSX reminds me of the R8... I think I like that styling better than the GT. However, I'd still take an 05-06 GT over either.

[1320goat]

NSX reminds me of the R8... I think I like that styling better than the GT. However, I'd still take an 05-06 GT over either.
I'm with you in every way. And the nsx looking like an r8 is definitely a good thing.

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[PaxtonShelby]

I don't like the nose of the NSX. Looks too much like the Acura stuff already on the streets. I'd take the GT all the way.

[gpfarrell]

Wow. Not one word about the not-a-manual transmission?

Really guys?

I get the Ecoboost. I'd rather a V8 in the Pace Car for an entire company, but face it the entire company is abandoning the V8 so you won't see one in the "Pace Car"! I even begrudgingly accept the dual-clutch trickery for racing. Porsche PDK's beat Porshes with manuals on any track, so Ford would have been foolish to not offer the best if they want to win at the World Class level.

But I'm not sold on enthusiasts staying in love with computer-shifting. It's fast and it's a conversation piece. But what's the difference between that and playing X-box?

If I raced and I wanted high-score, I'd want the computer to shift. But I drive (and spend my money) for fun and the fact that the new Halo car only comes with 2 pedals is a deal breaker for me. I'd pay $250k for an '05 GT before I paid $150k for the newer/better/faster one... because after 3 weeks of owning the new one I'd be bored with its little microchips having my fun.

[PaxtonShelby]

Good point Greg. We just need to swap a manual into out new GT's!!

[SK360]

Manuals are dead. Thinking driving is like a video game just because there's no clutch pedal is silly.

[Terminated]

Manuals are dead. Thinking driving is like a video game just because there's no clutch pedal is silly.
Corvette owner doesn't understand why cars come with manuals.... who knew??

[SK360]

Corvette owner doesn't understand why cars come with manuals.... who knew??

Explain it. So you can beat your chest about having a man pedal?

[Seer]

Corvette owner doesn't understand why cars come with manuals.... who knew??
My last corvette was a manual and was quite fast too.

[PaxtonShelby]

Can't argue that today's autos are faster than manuals.

Also can't argue that driving any car with an auto requires less skill than driving the same car with a manual.

[Seer]

Can't argue that today's autos are faster than manuals.

Also can't argue that driving any car with an auto requires less skill than driving the same car with a manual.

There's a world of a difference between a torque convertor auto and a dual clutch transmission that's computer controlled.

The driver has a lot more control over the dct than a traditional auto. To put it lightly a driver who pushes a car to its limit with a dct is well skilled. There's a reason why all of the high end vehicles are removing the manual transmission from the lineup. Cars are getting too power for those transmission types, advanced traction control, launch control, and stability control systems work much better with a dct.

Before you start talking about skill I'd bet that 99% of the people who make that comment probably couldn't drive a dct or auto car to its limits.

[SK360]

Can't argue that today's autos are faster than manuals.

Also can't argue that driving any car with an auto requires less skill than driving the same car with a manual.

Maybe in a straight line. Not exactly what this car is made for.

[Seer]

Maybe in a straight line. Not exactly what this car is made for.

Made to race at Le man. The engine that's in it which was also in the Daytona prototype won the Rolex 24 as well.

[gpfarrell]

Manuals are dead. Thinking driving is like a video game just because there's no clutch pedal is silly.

Frankly Corvettes bore me too. If I had to drive a Corvette with an automatic I'd get a new hobby. And no, I don't care how fast it goes... The Thunderbolt at Kennywood goes fast but it ain't driving.

[Mark Aubele]

An actual manual absolutely requires more skill than a DCT or automatic (really don't understand why it is suggested above a dual clutch manual requires more skill than an auto, at this point the auto shifting is just as fast as shifting it yourself), especially on a road course. Put two guys of a lower skill level in identical cars save for the trans and I guarantee 99% of the time they will be faster in the automatic.

That being said, like what was mentioned above today's automated manuals and even torque converter autos are getting so good, the argument for real manuals is getting more and more difficult. At this point there just isn't any reason for them except to have fun, which is why I have one. The 8 speed auto in our M235i is incredible, almost telepathic in the way it shifts, holds gears under decel going into a corner, etc... But I could give a **** about it, it bores the shit out of me, and hopefully there will be people like me that will keep 3 pedals around for a while :)

[PaxtonShelby]

Well-said Mark and Greg!

[SK360]

Frankly Corvettes bore me too. If I had to drive a Corvette with an automatic I'd get a new hobby. And no, I don't care how fast it goes... The Thunderbolt at Kennywood goes fast but it ain't driving.

Since the only inputs that matter are a clutch pedal and the car drives it self without it. I've heard this from manual chests beaters for years, have yet to see it proven.

[SK360]

An actual manual absolutely requires more skill than a DCT or automatic (really don't understand why it is suggested above a dual clutch manual requires more skill than an auto, at this point the auto shifting is just as fast as shifting it yourself), especially on a road course. Put two guys of a lower skill level in identical cars save for the trans and I guarantee 99% of the time they will be faster in the automatic.

That being said, like what was mentioned above today's automated manuals and even torque converter autos are getting so good, the argument for real manuals is getting more and more difficult. At this point there just isn't any reason for them except to have fun, which is why I have one. The 8 speed auto in our M235i is incredible, almost telepathic in the way it shifts, holds gears under decel going into a corner, etc... But I could give a **** about it, it bores the shit out of me, and hopefully there will be people like me that will keep 3 pedals around for a while :)

Agree with the auto being faster, also one less thing to take your attention away from other things on track. I love my torque converter auto and it is driven in full manual mode 99% of the time, rev matching downshifts with the pull of a paddle are great.

Wouldn't have bought the car with the auto and always said I wouldn't but once I drove the 6L80 I changed my mind.

If all people have driven are the old 3 and 4 speed autos then I see why they are so jaded, modern autos are light years better.

[Terminated]

Explain it. So you can beat your chest about having a man pedal?
Oh relax, just busting your balls about the automatic Corvette stereotype. I understand, 3 pedals isn't for everyone.


My last corvette was a manual and was quite fast too.
I'm sure it was.

[gpfarrell]

. At this point there just isn't any reason for them except to have fun, which is why I have one. The 8 speed auto in our M235i is incredible, almost telepathic in the way it shifts, holds gears under decel going into a corner, etc... But I could give a **** about it, it bores the shit out of me, and hopefully there will be people like me that will keep 3 pedals around for a while :)

THIS. Fun. Go beat your chest or whatever you want about how wonderful your newest generation automatic is. Go try a Google car, it even steers itself too. My 10 year old can "drive" it, but I see no joy in mastering the subtle nuances of getting it right.

Paddles are for boats. (Okay, or race cars.). I just want to have fun when I drive, and the lack of a 3-pedal option deflates the new GT for me.

[Terminated]

THIS. Fun. Go beat your chest or whatever you want about how wonderful your newest generation automatic is. Go try a Google car, it even steers itself too. My 10 year old can "drive" it, but I see no joy in mastering the subtle nuances of getting it right.

Paddles are for boats. (Okay, or race cars.). I just want to have fun when I drive, and the lack of a 3-pedal option deflates the new GT for me.

My point exactly. I don't really give a shit if they shift 3 nanoseconds faster and get me .03 seconds faster in the 1/4. When I drive anything with an automatic I feel like falling asleep.

[SK360]

My point exactly. I don't really give a shit if they shift 3 nanoseconds faster and get me .03 seconds faster in the 1/4. When I drive anything with an automatic I feel like falling asleep.

1/4 is boring no matter what you're in. I agree with most autos, if the C6 had the same 4 speed auto that was in my GTO I would have never considered it an option. Problem is 75%+ of Corvettes are built with autos, I had to be open minded to both options when I was looking for the right used car and when I found one that met every criteria but with the 6L80 I jumped. The wife wants our C7 to be an M7 but that A8 is looking mighty impressive.

[SK360]

THIS. Fun. Go beat your chest or whatever you want about how wonderful your newest generation automatic is. Go try a Google car, it even steers itself too. My 10 year old can "drive" it, but I see no joy in mastering the subtle nuances of getting it right.

Paddles are for boats. (Okay, or race cars.). I just want to have fun when I drive, and the lack of a 3-pedal option deflates the new GT for me.

You can't have fun driving a high hp lightweight car just because there's no clutch? Seems pretty ignorant.

[Pure Stock]

http://www.streetfire.net/video/rodney-in-car-automatic-vs-stick_2221990.htm

[1320goat]

Love people posting opinions as facts. People like different things.

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[RUTHLESS]

Wow an automatic vs manual post that I am not part of. LOL Seems like they both have their places, one is to make the car faster and the other is to keep the old farts happy.

I think that is a fact! j/k

[SK360]

http://www.streetfire.net/video/rodney-in-car-automatic-vs-stick_2221990.htm

Not sure what this has to do with the topic. This isn't a Cobra Jet thread. :jump:

[gpfarrell]

You can't have fun driving a high hp lightweight car just because there's no clutch? Seems pretty ignorant.

It would be ignorant if I had never tried a high hp lightweight 2-pedal car.

I have tried them, so for me it's not ignorant... it's informed. They bore me.

Ruthless says it well... "they both have their places"... unfortunately, Ford has decided their place isn't inside the new GT.

Full disclosure, I do enjoy the hydrostatic on my Kubota. And I have a C6... it's in a '78 Marquis and works fine in that application. :smug:

[1320goat]

It's all in what you like and what you use the car for. My fun cars see the street 95% of the time. So, manual trans for me please.

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[Mark Aubele]

The wife wants our C7 to be an M7 but that A8 is looking mighty impressive.

I can't get my wife to learn to drive a manual so save my life! Narrowed our options considerably when looking for a fun car that she liked.

[SK360]

I can't get my wife to learn to drive a manual so save my life! Narrowed our options considerably when looking for a fun car that she liked.

Mine called me a bitch when I bought the C6 in an A6. Now she won't let me get rid of it but still wants another M6/7

[SonofaBish]

Mine called me a bitch when I bought the C6 in an A6. Now she won't let me get rid of it but still wants another M6/7

Don't kid yourself - that's not why she called you a bitch....... :D