Build your own 1911 questions

[phillysrt4]

It seems that Tactical Machining (google it) offers a complete 1911 frame along with their 80% frames. I was thinking of getting their complete frame and some parts to finish off a 1911 build. Just curious if anyone has done this and what they *really* wound up spending on their gear.

If I do this, its going to have to be a "pimp on a budget" build as my main resources for firearms are going into an AR style .308 (probably DPMS pattern) with 24" barrel.

[Flyin Monkey]

I've done an AR lower or two. Easy peasy if you are familiar with machining and have the equipment.

[wick]

Are you back in Pittsburgh area? There is a guy on armslist selling a 1911 frame and a few pieces. It's in th Pittsburgh section.

[phillysrt4]

I've done an AR lower or two. Easy peasy if you are familiar with machining and have the equipment.

I'd just get their full lower. I dont think TM has an 80% lower for a .308.


Are you back in Pittsburgh area? There is a guy on armslist selling a 1911 frame and a few pieces. It's in th Pittsburgh section.

Sorry, still north of the border. I've found a few sites for parts but I'm just not sure if I'm "missing" something as parts kits that include barrel and slide don't seem as common.

BUT, I like to work with Cam when it comes to gun gear, so I will be coming to the 'burg at some point. Just trying to find out what the costs are. I reload and I have all the gear for .233/5.56 and .308 but nothing for .45 ACP. I could make an AR pistol but I kinda wanted a "traditional" pistol and a 1911 would fit the bill for my needs.

[wick]

Ahhh gotcha.

In my opinion, nothing comes close to a 1911. I love them and have quite a few.

[phillysrt4]

Oh cool! were any of them frame up builds? If so can you relay experiences or part recommendations for a budget build?

[Cam99]

What is the typical cost to "build" one? Just wondering how it compares to a well priced complete gun.

[Troll]

Just curious... what are the gun laws like up there? I always assumed Canada was run by a bunch of flaming, pu55y socialists. Obviously, I'm wrong ???

[Cam99]

Just curious... what are the gun laws like up there? I always assumed Canada was run by a bunch of flaming, pu55y socialists. Obviously, I'm wrong ???

Their gun laws make you appreciate living in PA....and that says alot!!

[speedracer]

Just curious... what are the gun laws like up there? I always assumed Canada was run by a bunch of flaming, pu55y socialists. Obviously, I'm wrong ???
Probably like living in Maryland only colder...

[wick]

I haven't built any. I bought all mine complete. Upper end ones.

[yeahloh95]

i have a kimber on my want list

[Cam99]

I have a para and I love it

[phillysrt4]

Just curious... what are the gun laws like up there? I always assumed Canada was run by a bunch of flaming, pu55y socialists. Obviously, I'm wrong ???

Long story short: For the most part, you're correct.

Longer version: I'll have to go to the Firearms Canada website to get exact numbers for barrel length, etc, but I think I'm close. Canada has three categories Possession and Acquisition Licenses (PAL) of firearms:

*Non-restricted: Any rimfire long gun (e.g. ruger 10/22) and any centrefire long gun whose action is not semi-automatic or fully automatic with a magazine capacity of 5 rounds or less, or any non "scary looking" semi automatic centrefire rifle with a barrel length of at least 16" and overall length greater than 24" with a magazine capacity of 3 round or less (e.g. Browning BAR). No "sawed off" shotguns. EDIT - Long gun firearms are not registered except in Quebec.

*Restricted: Any handgun with a barrel length greater than or equal to 4.125" that does not fire 25 or 32 caliber ammunition (except firearms designated by the ISU as competition pistols) with a magazine capacity of 10 rounds or less. Any semi-automatic centrefire rifle with a magazine capacity of 5 rounds or less whose barrel length is greater than or equal to 16" and whose overall length is greater than 24" and whose length cannot be reduced below this threshold by folding, telescoping, etc. EDIT - Restricted firearms are registered on a national registry regardless of province or territory of residence.

*Prohibited: Any firearm not classified as non-restricted or restricted (e.g. pistol with a barrel less than 4.125" long regardless of caliber) or an accessory that would cause the firearm to fall outside either the non-restricted or restricted category (e.g. a 30 round magazine for an AR-15). EDIT - If you are somehow able to own a prohibited firearm, it will be on the national registry. If for whatever reason you no longer own the firearm you lose the ability to possess a prohibited firearm unless somehow you inherit another grandfathered item.

To own a non-restricted firearm, you must complete a firearms safety course. To own a restricted firearm, you must complete the non-restricted course and then complete the restricted firearm safety course as well as be a member of a gun club (the easiest way). When getting your restricted firearms permit you WILL get a call from the RCMP and ask you a few questions, call the references you list on the application, etc. You cannot own a prohibited firearm unless you inherit one from someone who was "grandfathered" and owned the firearm before it became prohibited.

I've gone through the BS to get my restricted permit, so I am a member of a gun club but it allows me to own AR's and the like.

OH, one other thing, if you want to move a restricted firearm from your house to your gun club for target practice you must have an "Authorization To Transport". Mine is good for transporting any of my restricted firearms to any authorized range in the province. If you want to move your restricted firearms to somewhere not covered on your ATT you have to call and get a "temporary ATT" over the phone so that you can transport your restricted firearm. In transport, no ammunition can be locked up in the same case as the firearm and the firearm must be under 3 locks (a lock securing the action, a lock securing the case, and the trunk of the car counts as the 3rd lock.

So yea, its a pain in the ass but at least its still possible to own some firearms that have more of a purpose than hunting.

[phillysrt4]

to dovetail on the above post, it does create some apparent oddities in the law. For example, no one has any issues with you owning a ruger 10/22 with a 500 round ramhorn magazine, or a break action .50BMG that could take someone out at well over 1500m away (both of which are NON RESTRICTED, btw, so to own either you go through a 1 day firearms safety course and pay a fee), but an AR15 with a 30 round magazine? ZOMG TEH HORRARZ!!!1!!one!!11