$15 an hr for fast food workers

[RUTHLESS]

Is anyone on here following the news and have anything to say about what is going on. Has the world gone crazy to turn a job into a career for people that have made poor decisions or is this something that needs to be done?

[PaxtonShelby]

Crazy...

[Dan B.]

I've said from the beginning this is a bad idea. Is this for all minimum wage workers?

If so.......my payroll costs will go out of sight.....staff will disappear, services will be cut, bene's will be cut..........

[PaxtonShelby]

How else can these folks afford Obamacare?

[Troll]

So, because you decided to start a family in the 9th grade, now I have to pay $8.00 just for a Big Mac and the price of a #5 supersize will probably be $14.50 to cover all their costs. so, as soon as this happens everyone will figure out they can buy real food at a real restaurant with real waitresses for less than what they pay for the same shitty food and shitty service at MacF*ckYous. then, they will all go out of business and that will be my fault somehow because I paid for school loans until I was 30.

In short, yes Ruthless the world has gone crazy !!!

[u1arunit]

McDonalds and most of the usual fast food chains are hurting bad right now. This would be the nail in the coffin. Way to go America.

[RUTHLESS]

I did some number crunching and I hope the people fighting for the $15 did the same. However I am going to bet some didn't and when it comes tax time they are going to be just a little upset if they get pushed up a bracket.

[u1arunit]

I did some number crunching and I hope the people fighting for the $15 did the same. However I am going to bet some didn't and when it comes tax time they are going to be just a little upset if they get pushed up a bracket.

Not only that, they are going to be asking for Less Hours after they get the bump or they will lose the Government housing and other freebies after they are making too much. It's already happened in other places that have the increased wages. We keep catering to the low lifes here in America it will be all that we have. So very sad....

[Silverhatch]

So, because you decided to start a family in the 9th grade, now I have to pay $8.00 just for a Big Mac and the price of a #5 supersize will probably be $14.50 to cover all their costs. so, as soon as this happens everyone will figure out they can buy real food at a real restaurant with real waitresses for less than what they pay for the same shitty food and shitty service at MacF*ckYous.

You must not have ate there for awhile. I stopped at Wendys and a large size for a double cheeeseburger was nearly $11, before the pay increase. Talk about ripping people off, what do you think that large $1.50 fountain drink cost the fastfood empires? Maybe .15 cents. My problem is this, wallyworld is one of the largest u.s employers, the waltons are 6 of the top ten wealthiest people in the u.s. They're making billions while paying their employees 8$/hr. Those same employees require gov funding that I pay out of my taxes. They in turn, shop with said funding at, you guessed it, walmart. So why not force walmart to pay their employees more so that maybe they might not have to get funded by my pocket and instead by the waltons...They may raise prices putting all the employees in the same situation again, but whats the alternative? Taxpayers subsidizing them? Not everyone decided to start at family in 9th grade, some people are forced to work there because of downsizing, their college career collasped or get this, walmart moved to town and put their mom and pop store out of business because of their cheap prices using slave labor......

[RUTHLESS]

Not only that, they are going to be asking for Less Hours after they get the bump or they will lose the Government housing and other freebies after they are making too much. It's already happened in other places that have the increased wages. We keep catering to the low lifes here in America it will be all that we have. So very sad....


Good point!

[SlowSix]

this wasn't actually passed yet, just an FYI. Seattle has been experimenting with it, and NY state has been talking about implementing it.

[RUTHLESS]

Silverhatch,
Easy fix...stop going to places like Walmart when you can buy the same items from a mom and pop shop and have a better experience. Sure it might cost a little more but your helping the community. That is how it is working in the small town my wife grew up. Her grandparents own a small appliance store and it is doing good with return customers. GET THIS...There is a Walmart just up the road.
Same mind set works if you shopping for a garden tractor. (I just did this so its fresh in my mind.) You can go to a Lowes and get a green tractor with JD sticker slapped on it while being built in china, then complain about JD to everyone you see or you can go to a place that sells the real deal and be happy for years.

[Silverhatch]

I shop at Aldis for just about all food products. The problem is though Walmart employees so many people and pay so little that its a never ending cycle. Imo Walmart is building a fortune by paying their army of employees a below living wage funded by u.s. taxpayers. The Crackdonalds and wendys of the world aren't as bad being they may employ 40 people to a workweek in a town compared to a few hundred that walmart employs per store. If you buy a jd tractor and its subpar to a jd dealer tractor. You bet ill bitch, it was jd that sold out to sell their branded cheap tractors at lowes in the first place.

[thedak]

I go to Walmart about 3 times a year.

Maybe....

[Silverhatch]

McDonalds and most of the usual fast food chains are hurting bad right now. This would be the nail in the coffin. Way to go America.

Because nothing says america like Mcdonalds, Wendys and kfc. Good riddence.

[u1arunit]

If you buy a jd tractor and its subpar to a jd dealer tractor. You bet ill bitch, it was jd that sold out to sell their branded cheap tractors at lowes in the first place.

****ing right, I'd be pissed as well. The name Used To to mean quality for a lot of big brands. You don't see REAL tractors at the big box stores. No stamped steel deck, junk engine, who flung poo parts wearing, look alikes crap at a true tractor store.

[Dan B.]

****ing right, I'd be pissed as well. The name Used To to mean quality for a lot of big brands. You don't see REAL tractors at the big box stores. No stamped steel deck, junk engine, who flung poo parts wearing, look alikes crap at a true tractor store.

Kubota baby!!

[PaxtonShelby]

Big box stores sell a ton of cheaper versions of brand names. The bathroom fixtures we bought from a local store were very well made compared to the junk sold at Lowes or Home Depot. Did they cost more? Yes. Were they worth it? Hell yeah.

[Stangman701]

A minimum wage job is not supposed to be a career. It's something you do as a teenager or maybe something someone does while they get back on their feet after whatever bad situation they found themselves in. If you're flipping burgers at McD's for more than a year or two then I would say you obviously have no ambition in life and deserve to be making minimum wage. If you go to a job like that, show up on time, and perform well then you will be promoted because you will certainly be in the minority. Now obviously being a manager at McDonalds isn't a great job, but... you're getting managerial experience which could hopefully land you a higher paying job somewhere else. It's all about climbing the ladder. Just because you start at the bottom doesn't mean that with enough hard work and determination that you can't make it to the top. THAT is the American dream and it's so sad to see it being watered down by giving these dumb asses $30K/yr to flip burgers. It's the closest thing to communism that this country has ever seen and it's f'n BS... end rant/ :censored:

[PaxtonShelby]

Amen Ray. Well put!

[no1sirbutler]

Silverhatch,
Easy fix...stop going to places like Walmart when you can buy the same items from a mom and pop shop and have a better experience. Sure it might cost a little more but your helping the community. That is how it is working in the small town my wife grew up. Her grandparents own a small appliance store and it is doing good with return customers. GET THIS...There is a Walmart just up the road.
Same mind set works if you shopping for a garden tractor. (I just did this so its fresh in my mind.) You can go to a Lowes and get a green tractor with JD sticker slapped on it while being built in china, then complain about JD to everyone you see or you can go to a place that sells the real deal and be happy for years.


The he tractor scenario isn't completely true.....the JD mower sold at lowes is now the EXACT same one you get at the JD dealership. We have Middletown Tractor sales here and they are a large JD dealer. They personally told me and showed me it's the same tractor at Lowes...down to the part number and model number. MTS here is even setting them up for the local Lowes. All JD on display at lowes has a sticker on them stating this and provides info for service at MTS. Didn't used to be this way but times have changed

[RUTHLESS]

I agree with a majority of what has been said. The funny part is that the people fighting for the $15 an hr don't seem to have a clue that most people making a decent wage had to pay a majority of it back into school loans. These payments go on for years. Heck they want more then some people with education started out at.

[Troll]

So why not force walmart to pay their employees more
Who do you want to "force" Walmart to pay more? The government? Like Stangman said, that's called communism. I don't even have the time or patience to pick the rest of your post apart. It's so illogical and twisted up, not even funny. I assume you work at walmart ???

[RUTHLESS]

The he tractor scenario isn't completely true.....the JD mower sold at lowes is now the EXACT same one you get at the JD dealership. We have Middletown Tractor sales here and they are a large JD dealer. They personally told me and showed me it's the same tractor at Lowes...down to the part number and model number. MTS here is even setting them up for the local Lowes. All JD on display at lowes has a sticker on them stating this and provides info for service at MTS. Didn't used to be this way but times have changed

Maybe things changed since last year but I couldn't find a cast iron front axle or a sheet metal deck on anything at Lowes so I was on my way.

[u1arunit]

Maybe things changed since last year but I couldn't find a cast iron front axle or a sheet metal deck on anything at Lowes so I was on my way.

You still can't find a commercial or industrial tractor there. Not at any Lowes or Home Depot that I have seen. I guess JD sold out to the Chinese. Oh well. They've been off my list for years now anyway for my requirements.

[Silverhatch]

Who do you want to "force" Walmart to pay more? The government? Like Stangman said, that's called communism. I don't even have the time or patience to pick the rest of your post apart. It's so illogical and twisted up, not even funny. I assume you work at walmart ???
How do you solve the problem then mr logical and funny? walmart employs thousands at minimum wage, those said thousands get gov assist because of the low pay and buy things at walmart. Possibly raise the minimum wage on companies that employ "x" amount of people? Maybe try giving a solution instead of smartass remarks?

[Jeff95TA]

I did some number crunching and I hope the people fighting for the $15 did the same. However I am going to bet some didn't and when it comes tax time they are going to be just a little upset if they get pushed up a bracket.

Even if they get pushed up a bracket, you don't pay that higher amount on your total wages, just the amount that is over the threshold. You can't lose money by making more (in general).

As far as the minimum wage, I could be on board with an increase, but why jump all the way to $15/hr?

[Troll]

How do you solve the problem then mr logical and funny? walmart employs thousands at minimum wage, those said thousands get gov assist because of the low pay and buy things at walmart. Possibly raise the minimum wage on companies that employ "x" amount of people? Maybe try giving a solution instead of smartass remarks?

Well, personally, I don't think there is a problem. The OP thinks the problem is paying $15/hr for minimum wage. I agree with him. YOU obviously think there is a problem. YOU and a bunch of uneducated, hippie, lazy f*cktards that have all day to picket businesses holding pieces of cardboard with misspelled words. If it wasn't for walmart and every other company paying minimum wage to somebody willing to take it than we would be paying 100% of their gov't assistance. Instead, they do have a job and we're only paying a portion of it. That's OK. Like somebody already stated, walmart and other minimum wage jobs are just that and they require minimum effort and minimum thought. They aren't meant to be turned into a career. (to get off on a tangent, if we paid the regular workers 15/hr, how much would management make? 20-25 per hour? You'd be stealing people from actual good-paying industries to manage your walmart. haha) So, I worked 4 crap jobs when I was in high school and college. Got out of college and got a job in a decent industry and been working my way up through the ranks for 22 years (and paid back my school loans --- I suppose YOU support the govt's plan to eliminate that, too???) Don't even call me LUCKY. Yes, maybe lucky that I picked an industry that's still in this area. Never lucky that I worked up to 70 hours per week most of my twenties and now usually 50 hours per week and I don't think that's a lot. :tongue: If you work at walmart or any of these other jobs, you go to school part-time, you go to a trade school, etc. and you move on. Period. There is no problem here that needs a solution.

[Troll]

This actually happened to me this past Sunday... go to Wendy's to pick up lunch for my dad and his stupid dog. I pull to the first window and hand the pudgy 17 year-old girl exact change. She has nothing to do. She does not have to hand anything back to me. I am staring at her. I want her to say "THANK YOU". She looked at me and actually said (while motioning with her hands), "Ummm, you can drive up to the next window now). <--- insert the most condescending teenage tone you can think of. Yes, this happened. The next girl handed me my food and said, "Have a nice one". At least, that changed from "Have a good one", but still no THANK YOU. Somebody hands you money and/or patronizes the business you work at, you say THANK YOU. Period. I don't think that girl deserved minimum wage to tell you the truth. F*ck, my dad's dog said THANK YOU when I gave him his double stack.

[PaxtonShelby]

A huge % of kids today are complete social misfits. Make that ENTITLED social misfits. I still call men "Sir" and women "Ma'am" when I'm out and about. Stems from me working for my Dad all thru high school where being polite and respectful was expected...and not just a pleasant surprise.

[Cam99]

It's the entitled world we live in. Nearly every jerkoff on the planet now thinks there every want and need should be provided for. Phones, healthcare, dental, housing,food, transportation. Leach it off the government teet, or demand more money from your employer (if you actually get off your dead ass and get a job), not because you deserve it, because you want it. **** your wants. If you want it work hard and get it. Shitty job doesn't pay enough then better yourself, or work two shitty jobs. There's nearly no work ethics left in this country. I see it every day and I'm just "generation x" age. I don't how our fathers and grandfathers don't lose their minds with the state of this country. Christ almighty I just heard a proposal to provide free wi-fi to welfare recipients. WTF. Let me guess, it's so they can more actively seek employment on the web. Give me a break.

[Troll]

Insert Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino, Cam !!!

I took my old man to Home Depot a few years ago, we bought something (was not a lot of money) and left. The girl (as usual) didn't say anything. no thing at all. She was not young... in her thirties. I didn't even know my old man was pissed off. It was raining outside, he lights a cigarette in the parking lot and doesn't want to get in the car yet. So, I stand there listening to his mini-rant in the parking lot in the rain. I will summarize below... removing all of the GD, JC and F words.

"When I was young, you got a job. If you didn't like that job, you got another job. If you didn't like that job, you join the military [which is what he did], if you get out of the Navy and you can't get a job because you're stupid, then you got smart [which is what he did --- took night classes while working in steel mill]".

That's my example.

Silverhatch... I will give you this one. There is a problem. A problem with the family core. (You could argue with my above post that my parents provided food and shelter for me while I was in high school and part of college and took care of some of my needs until I was 22 --- which is correct). So, the breakdown of the family core in this country is the problem. If these parents would actually stay together and love their kids, provide them with food, shelter, a warm bed, somebody to help with their homework, etc. etc.etc..... then they (maybe) might not grow up into these entitled lunatics.

[Dan B.]

There is a problem. A problem with the family core. (You could argue with my above post that my parents provided food and shelter for me while I was in high school and part of college and took care of some of my needs until I was 22 --- which is correct). So, the breakdown of the family core in this country is the problem. If these parents would actually stay together and love their kids, provide them with food, shelter, a warm bed, somebody to help with their homework, etc. etc.etc..... then they (maybe) might not grow up into these entitled lunatics.

I agree 2000%.

[no1sirbutler]

Insert Walt Kowalski from Gran Torino, Cam !!!

I took my old man to Home Depot a few years ago, we bought something (was not a lot of money) and left. The girl (as usual) didn't say anything. no thing at all. She was not young... in her thirties. I didn't even know my old man was pissed off. It was raining outside, he lights a cigarette in the parking lot and doesn't want to get in the car yet. So, I stand there listening to his mini-rant in the parking lot in the rain. I will summarize below... removing all of the GD, JC and F words.

"When I was young, you got a job. If you didn't like that job, you got another job. If you didn't like that job, you join the military [which is what he did], if you get out of the Navy and you can't get a job because you're stupid, then you got smart [which is what he did --- took night classes while working in steel mill]".

That's my example.

Silverhatch... I will give you this one. There is a problem. A problem with the family core. (You could argue with my above post that my parents provided food and shelter for me while I was in high school and part of college and took care of some of my needs until I was 22 --- which is correct). So, the breakdown of the family core in this country is the problem. If these parents would actually stay together and love their kids, provide them with food, shelter, a warm bed, somebody to help with their homework, etc. etc.etc..... then they (maybe) might not grow up into these entitled lunatics.

Your dad sounds like mine....he made me work for everything I had and now I have a work ethic. I thank him for it.

[Troll]

Holy Cows somebody struck a nerve here. I could go on all night with this bullshit. What happens next year when they don't get a 5% raise. $15.75 per hour in 2016 is what the sign will say. I work with a guy, you could pay him $200,000 a year doing what we do and he'd come in tomorrow bitching about something. Point is,,, the 15.00 wouldn't even be enough. And/or they'd all go out and buy Cadillac Escalades with 24" wheels because they'd be riiiiich, bitch... then default on the loan. :rotflol:

[Dan B.]

Troll. That same guy works for me.

[Troll]

Oh Dan you'll enjoy this. Another guy we work with says, "The Conemaugh River could be flowing with free beer and he'd ask where the pretzels are".

[gpfarrell]

Sheetz.

have you ever ordered at Sheetz? It works great. The computer records exactly what you want for a wage of $0. How long will fast food pay counter help $15/hour when a computer (which admittedly costs something to buy... but doesn't want benefits and won't sue you for anything) can do much of the job for nothing?

Don't like Walmart? Don't shop there. Think they pay too little? Good for you. Tell all the people working there to go get a job elsewhere. Most of them can't. Know why? They don't work and they aren't worth $5/hr let alone $15. If they were working Walmart would eagerly promote them... Or somebody shopping at Walmart would offer them a better job.

Good people get jobs. Dregs get minimum wage.

[Dan B.]

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[PaxtonShelby]

Greg that was awesome!

[scorpio333]

Never ceases to amaze me how people get bent the hell out of shape about people less fortunate than them trying to better themselves, yet no one gives a flying f*ck about CEO's trying to take more out of everyone's pocket. If you ever asked for a raise or thought you deserved more money then you're no better than these greedy burger flippers. You know some people's ceiling is working at Mcdonald's as a career, they were born stupid, they made a mistake and started a family in the 8th grade, whatever. They can't contribute any more to society other than taking your order for crap food. Without that job they'd likely turn to criminal activity to feed and house their families. Don't believe that, look at Detroit where all the industry moved out and jobs didn't get replaced, crime went through the roof. But we're better off than them, so they suck and should go f*ck themselves. My opinions, that weren't fed to me by some propaganda media giant, sorry if that's too harsh for most of you right wing murica nut draggers.

I believe in a free market system which has no maximum wage AND no minimum wage. The market will dictate what is correct.

[Silverhatch]

I agree the family unit needs to stay together for a better chance at success for children. Also, I'm not saying most of the people deserve $15/hr to do the job they do, but something has to be done to get all these employees off of welfare. The majority of those workers are not college material, but at the same time don't want to be on welfare.

[Troll]

Never ceases to amaze me how people get bent the hell out of shape about people less fortunate than them trying to better themselves, yet no one gives a flying f*ck about CEO's trying to take more out of everyone's pocket. If you ever asked for a raise or thought you deserved more money then you're no better than these greedy burger flippers. You know some people's ceiling is working at Mcdonald's as a career, they were born stupid, they made a mistake and started a family in the 8th grade, whatever. They can't contribute any more to society other than taking your order for crap food. Without that job they'd likely turn to criminal activity to feed and house their families. Don't believe that, look at Detroit where all the industry moved out and jobs didn't get replaced, crime went through the roof. But we're better off than them, so they suck and should go f*ck themselves. My opinions, that weren't fed to me by some propaganda media giant, sorry if that's too harsh for most of you right wing murica nut draggers.

I believe in a free market system which has no maximum wage AND no minimum wage. The market will dictate what is correct.

So, if I ask my boss for a 3% raise, it's the same as asking for DOUBLE my pay... which is what this is. incorrect!

95% of propaganda media giants are left wingers, so not sure where you're headed with that...

oh, and yeah Republicans ruined Detroit. :rollingfloorrlol: :rollingfloorrlol: :rollingfloorrlol: :rollingfloorrlol: :rollingfloorrlol: :rollingfloorrlol: :rollingfloorrlol:

[CobraII]

As far as the minimum wage, I could be on board with an increase, but why jump all the way to $15/hr?

This is where I'm at. Bumping the minimum wage up some is due. No more than $8, $8.25 absolute tops. $15 is ridiculous, as these are supposed to be part time, entry level jobs, for students, for folks that want to pick up hours to help out their families, etc. A minimum wage job should not be a career. It should be a start to one.

[Silverhatch]

Lol. Keeping up with inflation, it should be around $11. I'd give them that.

[Tom]

As more becomes automated, the wage gap is going to increase even more. Eventually there is going to be enough civil unrest that a universal minimum salary will be created. Think about what is going to happen in the future:

Autonomous vehicles will be smart enough to replace taxis, truck drivers, bus drivers, pilots, boat captains, etc..
Kiosks will replace cashiers as they get better.
Autonomous vehicles will start to replace private car ownership (why have cars sitting in parking lots when they can be used else where - Uber is going to be huge...). Bye Bye car dealerhips, maintenance garages (Except for the big companies that own them). Private cars will be more of a hobby at this point.
"Cloud computing" will destroy 90% of systems, database, and other computer admin jobs (there will still be jobs at the cloud companies though)
AI drones will allow cutting back human military forces, delivery (ups is already working on autonomous vehicles that deploy drones to deliver packages as they drive down the street).
nanotech will replace surgeons for a lot of common surgeries.
big data analytics will eventually be better at treating a patient than a doctor (look at the past 50 million results, base treatment on best outcomes)
3D printing will put a huge dent in factory jobs, and construction
Lab created meat (gross now, but that will change) will cut back farming even more
This is just the obvious stuff...

There will be jobs created to repair/build this stuff, but I feel like its a small percentage of what will be replaced. In the past, when a new tech came out, something related it to it popped up to supply employment, I don't know if thats going to happen anymore.

[Dan B.]

Yes..........I know the year is wrong. It's the best I could find.

27075

[u1arunit]

Yes..........I know the year is wrong. It's the best I could find.

27075

Exactly. We can't even get people to embrace electric vehicles, let alone robotic ones and the like. The lack of interest in higher technologies is overwhelming. Here and now and what can I get for free is all so many people care about.

[RUTHLESS]

Never ceases to amaze me how people get bent the hell out of shape about people less fortunate than them trying to better themselves, yet no one gives a flying f*ck about CEO's trying to take more out of everyone's pocket. If you ever asked for a raise or thought you deserved more money then you're no better than these greedy burger flippers. You know some people's ceiling is working at Mcdonald's as a career, they were born stupid, they made a mistake and started a family in the 8th grade, whatever. They can't contribute any more to society other than taking your order for crap food. Without that job they'd likely turn to criminal activity to feed and house their families. Don't believe that, look at Detroit where all the industry moved out and jobs didn't get replaced, crime went through the roof. But we're better off than them, so they suck and should go f*ck themselves. My opinions, that weren't fed to me by some propaganda media giant, sorry if that's too harsh for most of you right wing murica nut draggers.

I believe in a free market system which has no maximum wage AND no minimum wage. The market will dictate what is correct.

I am not 100% sure how to take your post so I will just give you my thoughts. I am still trying to figure out how working in fast food justifies a salary increase of this scale. As for people with careers not being any better if they ask for a raise, I will just base this off of IT since that is where I come from. Our salaries are based on job performance. This means project roll outs, up time for the server infrastructure that support the company along with many other work loads. Now I will say that I didn't know what stress was until I got into this field. So many dead lines that are not based in the real world by people that sit behind desks and go to meetings all day. Managers that want updates 24/7 because they don't have an IT background and are clueless how long it takes to get projects done. Being on call 24/7 in the event that something goes belly up. With all that said we were locked into a set percentage for yearly salary increases because the stock market was in sad shape. We also lost more then a few perks over the years. The Christmas parties we have are no a joke and people don't go to them anymore.

I sure many are starting to think that if unskilled jobs are going to start paying $15 an hour then what the hell is the use of paying for Collage or advancing in anyway after high school.

[RUTHLESS]

Yes..........I know the year is wrong. It's the best I could find.

27075

If you want to fry your brain take a quick peak at what toys the armed forces have now that we know about and then think about what they don't share with us. They still want us to believe that the SR-71 is the fastest jet ever built. What a joke!

[Mark Aubele]

.... They still want us to believe that the SR-71 is the fastest jet ever built. What a joke!

What is faster?

[Tom]

What is faster?

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[Dan B.]

What is faster?

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[Stangman701]

What is faster?

Seer

[u1arunit]

Seer

LOL!!!!!! I just spit coffee all over my keyboard!! :laughing1:

[RUTHLESS]

Seer

:2thumbs:

[mustang50lx]

It will never end. Higher minimum wage = higher prices. It's not like Mcdonald's is just going to absorb the cost. In 6 months the $15.00 you are now making will be equivalent to the $8.00 you are making today. I agree with no minimum or maximum wage. Let the market dictate what you are worth. You just can't pay $15.00 an hour for $5.00 worth of work. Of course all this comes from the Capitalism crushing left. Big shock.

[Terminated]

I started at $5.15/hr working at Wendy's in 2000... Man, if I was rolling $15/hr to screw off all day at work, I would have been living so hood rich out my mama house it's not even funny.

Instead, I was pissed that I made shit money, and used it as motivation to better myself and work hard to earn more money.

Once they get paid $15/hr, the workforce will be cut in half, it's just economics to keep the profits up. You think a fast food franchisee is going to give two shits about making sure everyone makes a decent wage when his profits get crushed by higher wages? I wouldn't, I'd be bringing in touch screens that burn $.45/hr in electricity and don't screw orders up, bye Felicia!

/twocents