2015+ 5.0 minor bolt-on results..... anybody local ?

[Troll]

I know I can search the www for this info. but just wondering if anybody local has installed some minor stuff (cold air, mail-order tune, axle-backs) on their S550 and if you got a baseline dyno and after. American Muscle is claiming 34RWHP and 47RWTQ with just a JLT intake and Bama tune. :cool:

I was just placing this virtual order for my virtual 2016. :biggrin:

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[Dan B.]

I just virtually dyno'd my virtual 2015GT.

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[Dan B.]

After installing a virtual blower........

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[Tom]

you might be better at the photoshops than me!

[Mark Aubele]

You couldn't pay me to run a Bama tune. Take it to Tim to get tuned. If you need to do it mail order go with AED or even Lund.

[Dan B.]

you might be better at the photoshops than me!

You think I actually made that? Google images baby.........let the virtual world do all the work for you!!

[1320goat]

You couldn't pay me to run a Bama tune. Take it to Tim to get tuned. If you need to do it mail order go with AED or even Lund.
All of this.^

[Troll]

OK... no Bama tunes here.

[no1sirbutler]

I second Lund and their Ngauge is awesome. The things I have seen them do with it is amazing. They tune Beefcakes car and it's the fastest true 2015 in the nation at the moment

[Mark Aubele]

Not sure if this is dragging this off topic, but has anyone seen any verifiable gains with a CAI on the 11-16s? Still running stock airbox can't seem to get a definitive answer. They pick up on the dyno with the hood open but has anyone picked up MPH?

[PaxtonShelby]

I've never heard anything good about CAI's. Seems like the tune is where the gains come from. The factory air box isn't too bad from what I've read.

[Mark Aubele]

Yeah, staying NA probably for next year just trying to find some more hp. Going with Boss+TB or Cobra Jet setup.

[venom]

I'll be doing Lund tune over the winter on my 15. I had his tune on my 11, and it was quite noticeable. No dyno time, only butt meter.

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[Pure Stock]

Yeah, staying NA probably for next year just trying to find some more hp. Going with Boss+TB or Cobra Jet setup.

Yeahloh95 on here has the cj set up on a 12. Makes solid power. I believe he was thinking about a boss intake but went the cj route.

[somethingclever]

http://www.mustangandfords.com/how-to/engine/m5lp-1211-coyote-bolt-ons-pick-up-sticks/


Loss of power on this test with intake and TB.

Big gains from 5500-7000 with cams.

[phillysrt4]

Why the hate on Bama tunes?

I've seen the review from a few years ago that they weren't happy, but they seem to have gotten their s*** together.

Is there something in the data logs one should look for that is "bad"?

[RUTHLESS]

Why on earth would any of you guys use Lund when we have very good tuners in the area. Is it the big name? He detonated the hell out of my cobra when the 2.2 kb went on. His canned tune was down 40rwhp over a true dyno tune. Take your cars to one of the local guys who are hands on and get them tuned right. Every car is diffrent and no can tune will work 100%.

[Mark Aubele]

Yeahloh95 on here has the cj set up on a 12. Makes solid power. I believe he was thinking about a boss intake but went the cj route.

Thanks Pure Stock.

Yeahloh, did you run the car with the stock manifold then the CJ? More concerned with the mph gain rather than ET for what I do with the car.

[Troll]

I know this is apples and oranges, but I had an '01 GT with cams, LTs, O/RX, intake, plenum, TB, u/d pullies, etc. Before Tim or WP started tuning in this area, I had a canned tune from Modular Depot. The only problem I was having is the car would shut off occasionally at low RPM or coming to a dead stop. I made an appt and drove my a55 all the way to Kauffman,SGS,DGR whatever it is now. Dave put it on his dyno and looked at the tune and said it was pretty much spot on. He fixed the minor driveability problems and I was back on the road, 300 bucks short, two TP tolls and a tank of gas. just sayin.

[Pure Stock]

Thanks Pure Stock.

10-15 whp over the stock intake with a trade off in some midrange. Extending the operating range roughly 1,000 rpm may make it worth it as far as not needing to shift. I have a graph overlayed with a stock intake manifold vs. A complete cj setup. Not a dead nuts comparison though. It is a GT stock manifold vs a Boss with cj. The GT is ahead of the cj until about 5,600 rpm. After that it's cj.

From the one vid you posted it looked as though excluding the launch the engine gets down to around 4,000 rpm.

[Mark Aubele]

10-15 whp over the stock intake with a trade off in some midrange. Extending the operating range roughly 1,000 rpm may make it worth it as far as not needing to shift. I have a graph overlayed with a stock intake manifold vs. A complete cj setup. Not a dead nuts comparison though. It is a GT stock manifold vs a Boss with cj. The GT is ahead of the cj until about 5,600 rpm. After that it's cj.

From the one vid you posted it looked as though excluding the launch the engine gets down to around 4,000 rpm.

Yes, and I short shifted a couple times, but the highest I ever shift the car is 6800. At the last hillclimb I was going through the finish at 7600 in 4th (3.31s) on the limiter for a while, wasn't sure if it would pull 5th with a last second shift. I think the car would go faster with a Boss or CJ as much time as I could spend from 5000-7600 or so. CJ is some serious coin over the Boss, most dyno tests I see don't show a significant difference between the two.

[Dewayne]

If you want power on the 15s, definitely give Tim a call. He's doing good things with all of the 15s I've seen go through his shop. Not only does he get you the power by giving your car the tune it wants, he makes sure you can drive it everyday without eny issues.

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[Troll]

Thanks for all the input guys. I have taken cars to Tim before. Never for tuning, but yes I would trust him 100%. This is not a thread about where to tune my car or whose mail-order tune to purchase... I am simply curious if anybody local has done some minor bolt-ons on a 2015+ Mustang and what kind of power they've netted.

Thanks!

[phillysrt4]

I saw a 2015 mustang get a GTR interior swap and gained 150hp at the dash.

[Mark Aubele]

Sorry for dragging it OT I should've started my own thread.

[yeahloh95]

I am very happy with my cj set up

[blackfive-o]

Nice how you broke the torque curve at the intersection. You a draftsman?

I just virtually dyno'd my virtual 2015GT.

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[Pure Stock]

I am very happy with my cj set up

Please tell us more. :icon_mrgreen:

[Rodeheaver's]

I've never done a tune and Cai/tune comparison on a 15 yet. I'm sure the Cai U.S. Worth hp. I just can't say how much. It makes sense to have one in comparison to the stock air box. I've seen and tested that the drop in filters for the 15s HURT hp. Headers on the other hand net a nice gain.

[Troll]

OK, so you guys have seen the other posts. I bought this car with Airaid CAI and Gibson catback already installed. Where do we go from here? haha No future mods planned right now!

I'm thinking I just drive it and enjoy it the way it is... but, I'll eventually go crazy and probably have Tim tune it. I'm just not sure what to expect from a tune. 10-20hp reasonable? And, no offense to Tim (or any other tuners / garages) but I don't think 10-20hp is worth the price of the tuner and a couple hours dyno time.

This thing idles fine and has no weird surging or anything at any RPMs.

[yeahloh95]

what you gain from a tune in these new cars is a way to turn off all the nannys they have multiple stages of traction control the 20 hp gain is like a half second at the track, which works out to much more , drive by wire cars can close throttle with out you knowing .....

[sutyak]

My kind of bolt on...

http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/index.php/turbo-systems/209 (http://www.hellionpowersystems.com/index.php/turbo-systems/209)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pku3dLg-zZ4

[THE BIG KOALA]

what you gain from a tune in these new cars is a way to turn off all the nannys they have multiple stages of traction control the 20 hp gain is like a half second at the track, which works out to much more , drive by wire cars can close throttle with out you knowing .....
Yeah like clutch protection or torque management or whatever they call it. It sucks

[Martin0660]

Yeah like clutch protection or torque management or whatever they call it. It sucks

lol, you are becoming the expert on that ....

after watching Joe, I'm certain getting the nannies out of the way is WELL worth the cost of the tune. His is almost useless with those doing what they do.

FWIW, and mod that doesn't need a tune (aifraid CAI) isn't adding power.

[Pure Stock]

after watching Joe, I'm certain getting the nannies out of the way is WELL worth the cost of the tune. His is almost useless with those doing what they do.

I'd agree with that.

[Martin0660]

I'd agree with that.

Im suspecting that Yelllloooohhhh guy has more nannies installed ... He ain't got enough, lol

[Troll]

After taking an extended ride tonight, I can see what you guys are talking about. There's a slight disconnect from what my right foot is doing and what the car is doing.

[Pure Stock]

Im suspecting that Yelllloooohhhh guy has more nannies installed ... He ain't got enough, lol

:biglaugh:

[Pure Stock]

On the 11-14 the throttle blade will momentarily close, even during no lift shifts. When the computer detects an abrupt load change e.g., powershift, it will close the throttle in an attempt to manage torque application. Early 11's had less management but as failures were recognized more management was integrated into the tune.

[somethingclever]

Drive by wire = keeps warranty costs down



And that's it....even on my buddies new F250 you can feel if he nails it from a stop, the truck will take off, slow down as the throttle blade closes partially (about 20' out) to manage the torque, and then picks back up again like "Oh, I didn't realize when you saw you needed to merge, you actually wanted to at WOT".


So for sure a tune would help to eliminate the rather large disconnect you are feeling and real world gains (in driveability and performance) are more than just the hp number.

[yeahloh95]

yes I had rev auto add more nannys to mine haha next one is the two step

[THE BIG KOALA]

My nannys are gone

[Pure Stock]

yes I had rev auto add more nannys to mine haha next one is the two step

Built rear = 10's

[Martin0660]

Built rear = 10's

I don't think those things will ever go 10's NA without spray ....

[yeahloh95]

spray.... ftw..... same thing

[Troll]

With the minimal mods (cai and cb), would the pre-loaded tune that comes on the SCT X4 be comparable to what Tim would be able to get out of it with a custom tune? I'd have to purchase the device no matter what... and if I take it to Tim in the future, he can use it to load his tune, right?

https://www.sctflash.com/Products/product/SCTX4/x4-performance-programmer?vehicleYear=2015&vehicleMakeId=5&vehicleModelId=68&vehicleEngineId=46

[THE BIG KOALA]

I would think Tim's tune would be alot better. I have an extra sct4 that I'm going to get rid of once I send it back to sct and get it cleared.

[Troll]

Well, I don't have a lot of time to get down to Tim's any time soon. The pre-load on the SCT has got to be, at least, better than stock and it certainly wouldn't "hurt" to run it until I could get some custom-tune time, right ?

[THE BIG KOALA]

I was just trying to save you some money on the tuner.

[Stangman701]

Might be worth shopping around to see if you can find one with custom tunes included at no cost. I know Bama isn't the greatest, but they're not going to blow up your mostly stock car and will likely make a little more power than the canned SCT tune. You get two custom tunes included at the same price and they could easily revise the tune for minor mods like off-road mid pipe or gears. http://www.americanmuscle.com/x4-custom-tuner-2015gt.html

There might be better tuners out there who offer similar deals.

[Troll]

was just looking at that exact link before I logged on here... they have a package with the Airaid cai that's on the car, too, so shouldn't be a problem to get that tune... still researching.

[Troll]

F this... too many variables... will make time and get down to Masontown !!!

[PaxtonShelby]

^^^^ I think that's a good idea. I'd like to do that as well.

[THE BIG KOALA]

Let me know if you want a good deal on a SCT4.

[Rodeheaver's]

One of the best mods I've found to do to a s550 is the rear subframe lockout kits. It is super easy to install, helps with wheel hop and tightens the rear suspension way up! The lethal resonator delete is a must IMO!