Winter Upgrades

[JeffreyCole]

Being that racing season is coming up in a few months, I was just curious to see what everyone had planned for their winter upgrades this year.

Mine is pretty simple, get the head freshened up at the machine shop (exhaust valve seal sucks, bad), and build a fuel system for e85. Probably twin Walbro 450LPH high pressure pumps and some sort of 2000cc injector, as well as adding a flex fuel sensor to make everything happy. Maybe trying to add paddle shifters to the auto. My trans controller makes it easy to add them in.

Perhaps a new set of wheels and tires... definitely tires.

That's about it. General maintenance stuff and enjoying the auto stuff other than that.

What about you guys?

[yeahloh95]

I plan to add a two step and line lock that I have had here for way to long and some 35 spline axles and a spool to the 12 , and then a bias tire

[CobraII]

Get the trans out and down to Wholesale Transmission for a freshen up. Cam swap, touch more lift and a different profile. Engine diaper.

[sutyak]

1) Get race trans back together and in.
2) Don't spend anymore money on car unless something breaks.

[mgtf289]

Hopefully I've got the running part under control so time to cover up the rust. I'm thinking I'd better order tires for the MG in case the Bird isn't done

[1320goat]

I've been working on my jap crap. Switched to speed density, working thru some tune issues at the moment.

[somethingclever]

this is always an easy one -current winter's projects is to start on last winters projects.

[Fast Gypsy]

Install my rebuilt C4 with a diaper and a Cheetah shifter.

[Martin0660]

Short list with a late start for me:

New Intake (better ported lower and plenum upper) and a new cam (Have it around).

Weight reduction - going to revamp water cooling lines around engine, eliminate oil cooler circuit, misc. stuff to take a gallon of water out of the system. Manual brakes are on the agenda, but I keep going back and forth on actually doing it. If I don't go with the big cam I might keep the power brakes. Lots of little details to trim, remove, etc ... Trying to get another 50# out of the car. Hard to find right now and still keep all the street car stuff in place .... heater box is looking like a casualty especially with the safety upgrades adding weight. ;)

Safety - I've come to the point I need to deal with the engine diaper rules. I keep looking under the car and debating between trying to modify an existing diaper to fit to building a pan. Neither are easy or attractive so I keep putting it off. I also need a new helmet for this year, current is Snell 2005 and kept getting reminded by NMRA that 2016 was the last year for it :(

Exhaust To be determined ... Never thought what I had was restrictive, but the car really picked up when I dropped it at the end of last year ... more bigger and more lighter somehow.

I think next year I'm going to back off the NMRA / NMCA stuff and do more local stuff. Over-all goal, somewhere, some time, I want the car to run a 9.99 next season but that likely wont come until fall.

[Terminated]

Suspension/braking goodies, I like the twisties as opposed to a straight line.

[SlowSix]

Already put in a g Force t5 and new clutch and associated parts.

Have another upper intake laying around that I plan to use to get rid of the remote mounted iac valve. Just ordered a new throttle body for said revamp.

Otherwise that is about it. I've been collecting parts for a stroker for next winter.

[PaxtonShelby]

Slow - are you stroking the 6 or a 4.6?

[SlowSix]

Slow - are you stroking the 6 or a 4.6?

The six. 3.8 to a 4.2. unless I decide to change my mind by then lol.

[THE BIG KOALA]

I plan on trying to find a car to run this year.

[CobraII]

Bob - FYI, your helmet is good at IHRA tracks/events this year. Mine is an SA 2005 also. Page 47-48: http://www.ihra.com/images/2017_Sportsman_rulebook_2.pdf

Joe, looking for anything in particuar?

[Martin0660]

I don't know why, but NMRA was on us every race. Their stance is 10 years (2005 to 2015) plus one year (2016). Probably time for a new one anyway, lots of summer passes in that thing, lol. FWIW, they also beat on me to move to a SA helmet although it was a suggestion. Wasn't just me, telling everyone with a 2005 to have a new one for next year.

[THE BIG KOALA]

Bob - FYI, your helmet is good at IHRA tracks/events this year. Mine is an SA 2005 also. Page 47-48: http://www.ihra.com/images/2017_Sportsman_rulebook_2.pdf

Joe, looking for anything in particuar?a foxbody mustang preferably a notch or a 65 to 67 nova or a 68 to 70 mustang.

[PaxtonShelby]

Come on over to the old Stang gang Joe!

[jaa55]

AW4 swap in the grand Wagoneer for some overdrive and a tremec in my f100. Need to get started

[roush08]

Plans for mine are limited because I'm waiting to see if anything breaks during the season because it's been years since this car has run on a regular basis, but limited plans are :

new front runners
clean up wiring
install battery box

[CobraII]

I don't know why, but NMRA was on us every race. Their stance is 10 years (2005 to 2015) plus one year (2016). Probably time for a new one anyway, lots of summer passes in that thing, lol. FWIW, they also beat on me to move to a SA helmet although it was a suggestion. Wasn't just me, telling everyone with a 2005 to have a new one for next year.

I am pretty certain IHRA and NHRA go 12 years from the date of the helmet, unless otherwise outlined in the rules. Interesting NMRA is shorter. My Impact is SA2005, and still feels like a good piece. Until I have to move to a new one, I'm going to keep running it. I'll go to Impact again when it's time to buy.

Street, strip, street/strip, Joe?

[Martin0660]

I am pretty certain IHRA and NHRA go 12 years from the date of the helmet, unless otherwise outlined in the rules.

I read the IHRA link, and probably beating a dead horse, but either the way I said it, or 12 years is the same thing

2005-2009 = 5 years
2010-2014= 5 years
2015 = year 11
2016= year 12

I cant find direct links to NHRA rule book and I don't know anyone with a 2017 yet, but found this on class racer:

NHRA Helmet Expiration Dates

Label Expires
Snell 2000 1/1/2012
Snell 2005 1/1/2017
Snell 2010 1/1/2022
SFI 31.1A 1/1/2014
SFI 31.2A 1/1/2014

Dunno, just going with what I was told too. Nobody locally has looked at my helmet date in years, but two of the most checked things when I travel are belt dates and helmet date.

[TooFast98Cobra]

Turbo

[black 94]

I like the way that sounds. What's getting a turbo?

[CobraII]

Dunno, just going with what I was told too. Nobody locally has looked at my helmet date in years, but two of the most checked things when I travel are belt dates and helmet date.

KRP tech has looked at my helmet, on points days. The only place that looked at my helmet was Norwalk 5 years ago at the Halloween Classic.

[Dickbag 5.h0]

Re-tune in the spring and some 10 second passes.

[JeffreyCole]

Update:

Swapping to a fresh second generation DSM head, Lancer Evolution 3 intake manifold, FIC 2150CC injectors, Twin walbro 450HP pumps, and flex fuel setup.

Now that the weather's broken, what's everyone's status? I just finally got all the parts sorted out and now I need to get them put on.

[sutyak]

Good progress!
My car is running great, but it's not track ready. I need to get the race trans together and installed, slicks mounted/screwed, and high boost tune dialed in. I doubt I'll get it track ready until soccer and cub scouts are over sometime in May-June.

[PaxtonShelby]

The '14 is mostly done - suspension upgrades installed ( coil-overs, watts link, LCA's and relo brackets ). Still have to get a rear sway bar that will clear the watts, and get the car aligned and tuned. Hoping for low 12's on stock tires.

'66 upgrades are underway - parts are all here - installing new tubular front LCA's, strut rods, new master cylinder and big disc brakes all around. Then bigger fuel line - might sump the tank, alignment, tires, and a bunch of little fixes.

[PaxtonShelby]

Mark - you need to bring her to the PVGP this year. You'd love watching the races and walking thru the paddock and talking with the owners & drivers. Plus, 3000 cars are fun to check out too.

[sutyak]

Mark - you need to bring her to the PVGP this year. You'd love watching the races and walking thru the paddock and talking with the owners & drivers. Plus, 3000 cars are fun to check out too.

Which event? http://www.pvgp.org/calendar/

[PaxtonShelby]

Which event? http://www.pvgp.org/calendar/

http://www.pvgp.org/car-shows/schenley/

I run the American show there - lmk if you have any questions - vintage races thru Schenley park all weekend. You will come every year if you come once. It is fantastic.

[Martin0660]

Now that the weather's broken, what's everyone's status?

Waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy behind where I want or need to be. Last year I broke 2 transmissions and a cylinder head before the end of March. I still see mine as two weeks out assuming nothing bites me. Still don't have my upper intake yet, that's going to be my pace setter.

[JeffreyCole]

Waaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy behind where I want or need to be. Last year I broke 2 transmissions and a cylinder head before the end of March. I still see mine as two weeks out assuming nothing bites me. Still don't have my upper intake yet, that's going to be my pace setter.

I totally feel your pain there. I was hoping to be working on the DSM already. Instead, I am working on getting stuff out of the way so that I can get to working on the DSM.

Priorities....

[gmslayer]

9" rear end, mini tub and Team Z cage.

[roush08]

Got front runners, 5 lug converted, up to date helmet and race diaper

[CobraII]

Transmission freshened up by Wholesale, barely needed anything after 2 full seasons of double classing/double entering. Engine out, cam swapped. Need to get my gaskets and put it back together and get both back in. Shooting for April 15 TnT

[1320goat]

Tuning on the evo 8 is finished. Car made some nice numbers at 32psi. Next up is sorting out the suspension

[PaxtonShelby]

Tuning on the evo 8 is finished. Car made some nice numbers at 32psi. Next up is sorting out the suspension

Oh come on..."some nice numbers..."

Seriously? You're going to tease us with that?

I got paired with an Evo one time at the track. Thing ran mid 10's at 140. Those cars are sick.

[1320goat]

I'd like to see how it runs before I start throwing numbers around. I've seen some big number cars with lackluster track times. I will say, the numbers are humble in comparison with the high standards of today's cars.

[somethingclever]

does it run 32psi on pump only no meth?

[1320goat]

does it run 32psi on pump only no meth?
32 on E. Around 26 on 93.

[sutyak]

What RPM are you spinning the EVO to? At least we can guesstimate on the numbers!

[1320goat]

Valvetrain is built for whatever I want to throw at it. However, the turbo I have on here starts losing efficiency at 7500. I'm seeing full boost at 4K. More seat time is needed to see what the car likes.

[1320goat]

First cold start on build and Basemap. Crappy vid, but you can hear some of the cam lope.
https://youtu.be/c9_Niuh2wbI

[1320goat]

*edited. Damn auto-correct on this phone

[1320goat]

A couple test hits to check Afr
https://youtu.be/nmfhSaREykU


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[PaxtonShelby]

Looks like a fun car David!

[sutyak]

I love a turbo so much. :love_heart:

[1320goat]

Installed coilovers yesterday, then drove over to my tint guys house to have the windshield re-done. (Because I know you guys love that)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/4badcec67ff8dfae30081f9be06ef513.jpg

[TooFast98Cobra]

U just tint over the stamps? I had a square cutout. I didnt know what to do. I almost just scraped them and sell hell with the stamps.

[1320goat]

Yes I usually have him go over the inspection stickers. When it's time for inspection, I get the steam gun out and remove the tint. I have had a box cut before, became a hassle when putting the inspection stickers back on.

[Stangman701]

Looks good man!

[1320goat]

Looks good man!
Thank you. Did you put the vmp tvs on the GT500?

[Stangman701]

Thank you. Did you put the vmp tvs on the GT500?

Yep, it's on. Still need to work with Lund to get it tuned though. Hoping that goes well and we don't find any mechanical problems along the way

[1320goat]

Very nice. I think you'll be happy with it. Lund tuned my tvs car and it was spot on

[Martin0660]

Getting closer, engine back together less my upper intake ... 10,000 little things left

[Dewayne]

Sooooo, I have managed to get 8 bed bolts out over the winter. No where near the progress I wanted to have. The engine was about ready to get assembled for the truck, but every crank I get my hands on seems to have some issue.

[Martin0660]

Finally found some motivation ....

new cam installed, hot side refreshed (gaskets and seals), engine stiff done and diaper fitted...

new fuel system, Walbro 450 pump, Pro M hanger, all AN line to and from rail, wiring upgraded to 10 gauge from the alternator to pump.

all fresh fluids and mostly ready to fire.

transmissions are out, going to break them down tomorrow night to go through them both. Also going to have inputs ground to 2.3 diameter so I can go back to a pilot bearing instead of the bushings I've been running.

upper intake finally mostly done, needs bosses for my throttle cable and a plate I can take for connections, but it's built.

looking to be running next weekend. Should be doable

[JeffreyCole]

Installed coilovers yesterday, then drove over to my tint guys house to have the windshield re-done. (Because I know you guys love that)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/4badcec67ff8dfae30081f9be06ef513.jpg


Car looks and sounds sick.... What turbo?

If I was a betting man, I'd say FP Red?

[Dan B.]

Installed coilovers yesterday, then drove over to my tint guys house to have the windshield re-done. (Because I know you guys love that)
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170406/4badcec67ff8dfae30081f9be06ef513.jpg

I see a Ranger in the background............look't dat'ass.

[1320goat]

Car looks and sounds sick.... What turbo?

If I was a betting man, I'd say FP Red?
Thanks man. The turbo currently on the car is a tomei 7960. Great street manners, which is what I was looking for with this car. It works really well with the big 280 cams also.

[1320goat]

I see a Ranger in the background............look't dat'ass.
Damn just noticed that, glad you could get your jollies

[Stangman701]

Thanks man. The turbo currently on the car is a tomei 7960. Great street manners, which is what I was looking for with this car. It works really well with the big 280 cams also.

That's the same turbo I have on my STi. Not too bad for daily duty. I imagine it makes a good bit more power on an Evo though.

[1320goat]

That's the same turbo I have on my STi. Not too bad for daily duty. I imagine it makes a good bit more power on an Evo though.
This car is currently making around 430/430. Not amazing, but runs strong.

[Stangman701]

This car is currently making around 430/430. Not amazing, but runs strong.

That's pretty stout. Mine is around 370/340 on pump gas. Would like to see 400/425 if I ever get around to tuning it on E85.

[PaxtonShelby]

That's awesome David - must be a hoot to drive.

[1320goat]

That's awesome David - must be a hoot to drive.
Thanks Ron. Yeah it's a blast to drive. No shortage of traction

[1320goat]

I could use some help from one of you dsm gurus. The evo is having some lean cold start issues. The car is speed density converted, 9417 rom tuned by a very reputable tuner. He swears it's not tune related. With that said, I have been messing around with the rom a bit. I have been looking at post crank enrichment tables. The car starts and idles perfect when warm.

This seems like a common issue with the 9417 rom, however, it's a small annoyance that I'd like to sort out.

[1320goat]

Lean cold start issue has been resolved. I played around with the values in a couple different fuel tables.

[rrjjpp74]

Just added this over weekend. Took about 12hrs total. Can't get I for tuning till June 19th at OST. Only running 7lbs till I forge the motor over winter. Just hoping for high 10's.

https://goo.gl/photos/2UfmqigPHeWxPUx99

https://goo.gl/photos/DXZXHoHb5JFZKQZo7