87-93 Stock Longblock 5.0L -Recipe-

[Pure Stock]

Getting a 5.0L into the coveted 12 sec e.t. is not as hard as it may seem. To attain sub-13 sec. e.t.s start with a 5-speed version of the 5.0L. Mix in a lightweight version (coupe), well thought out bolt-ons, traction e.g. slicks, and aggressive driving.

I have compiled a list based on facts, not generalizations and assumptions that has the potential to propel a stock long-blocked fox body into the 12's. A good tune is paramount in the quest to reach this goal.

- 26 x 8.5 x 15 slicks (can mount on turbines/10 holes and retain quad shock)

- 3.73, 4.10, 4.30 gear (select ratio depending upon tire height selection)

- Headers (long tubes>short tubes)

- Off road H or X (may need to replace to pass emissions test where applicable)

- Under-drive pulleys (may eliminate need for these if serpentine belt is eliminated, use caution if employing this mod and use at track only)

- Eliminate factory air silencer

- At a mininum use a K&N panel replacement filter

- Stock T.B. and M.A.F. will work. (track testing showed no loss of e.t. or gain in MPH when switching M.A.F. -same day testing-

- Remove front sway bar (helps with weight transfer)

- Remove stock clutch fan (*if* using underdrives)

- Short-belt (*if* underdrives are used)

- Advance timing (13-14 degrees is a good start)

- Adjustable fuel pressure regulator

- Remove unwanted weight ( you be the judge, what do you want to eliminate, *remember these small c.i.d. engines do not like to lug weight, removing approx. 100 lbs. of weight nets a mph increase)

- Practice, practice, and more practice. (If you are afraid to break something your leaving precious e.t. on the table)

Some additional mods to consider:

1. Synthetic lubricants throughout
2. Aftermarket rear control arms
3. Sub-frame connectors
4. Increasing air pressure in front tires to decrease rolling resistance
5. Aftermarket shifter
6. Battery relocated to rear of hatch/trunk
7. Air bag in passenger rear coil
8. Light weight wheels
9. Ice upper plenum (gains of 6-8 H.P. here -dyno tested-)

Mods that produce minimal gains if any:

1. off-the-shelf chips
2. aftermarket ignitions including expensive spark plugs
3. bigger injectors (contrary to popular belief upgrading injectors will *not* produce more power)

CAN WE MAKE THIS A STICKY?

[White5.0]

thats pretty sweet...definatly should be a sticky:pinkthumb:

[INSANELY CRAZY]

thats pretty sweet...definatly should be a sticky:pinkthumb:


:goodidea:

[lib88stang]

good info.

[One Sweet Day]

thats pretty sweet...definatly should be a sticky:pinkthumb:
should be! this will be very useful next month! lol:twothumbsup:

[Cam99]

Sticky worthy!

[fastfox91]

i have a buddy who had a stock long block with the old edlebrock 5.0 intake bbk cold air elec fan and timing at 14* and 3:73, with weld draglite skinnys on the front 26 x 8.5 on 10 holes rear full weight 88 gt nothing removed at all 13.18 @ 106 to 107 it had approx 170,000 miles on it kept minimal oil pressure im talking 10lbs when hot idle

[fastfox91]

http://www.tdspeedshotz.com/9-9-06-BSD-Sat/images/9-9-06-BSD-Sat%20198.jpg

http://www.tdspeedshotz.com/9-9-06-BSD-Sat/images/9-9-06-BSD-Sat%20196.jpg

http://www.tdspeedshotz.com/9-9-06-BSD-Sat/images/9-9-06-BSD-Sat%20182.jpg

http://www.tdspeedshotz.com/9-9-06-BSD-Sat/images/9-9-06-BSD-Sat%20142.jpg

http://www.tdspeedshotz.com/9-9-06-BSD-Sat/images/9-9-06-BSD-Sat%20143.jpg

http://www.tdspeedshotz.com/9-9-06-BSD-Sat/images/9-9-06-BSD-Sat%20128.jpg

this is the car i was talking about it actully has welds with et streets on them and heads on it in these pics. with trickflows tw's bolted on it ran 12.8@ 109 almost 110 on i think mid 1.7 60fts

[George C]

i can verify some as well. i went 13.38 @ 101.8 in my 88 notch

also remember its not how high of an RPM you shift at its where the car starts to drop off at. i was shifting at 4500 rpms yes 4500 rpms and netted my best times. i never lifted off the throttle either and didnt lose hardly any rpms between shifts. if you want to go fast you must trash the crap out of the car. I had K&N panel, OR H pipe, flows with no tails, 355s and worn QTPs. timing was at 10* with a 153k on the car at full weight. so its very easy to get good times out of these cars if yoru aggressive.

a cheap but yet effective way to help with driveline loss % is to use straps to strap the motor and trans down. if you have good motor/trans mounts this isnt a problem but on most highmileage cars the mounts are shot. i had used rachet straps to help tie the motor/trans down which help put the most power down to the ground

[Pure Stock]

i have a buddy who had a stock long block with the old edlebrock 5.0 intake bbk cold air elec fan and timing at 14* and 3:73, with weld draglite skinnys on the front 26 x 8.5 on 10 holes rear full weight 88 gt nothing removed at all 13.18 @ 106 to 107 it had approx 170,000 miles on it kept minimal oil pressure im talking 10lbs when hot idle

How is it a stock longblock with an aftermarket intake?

[fastfox91]

i consider a long block heads down sorry i consider a short block to be no head just block and rotating assembly anyway with the stock intake it went 13.29 so there wasnt much of a change i think mph went from 109.6 to 109.8

[coralcoupe1993]

How is it a stock longblock with an aftermarket intake?


Block, internals & heads. Manifolds dont count.

[fastfox91]

my 91 gt at full weight went 12.73 at 110.7 with a 1.71 60ft with just 4:10 o/r h and flows with 75 shot. its best on the motor was 13.98 at 103.1. it just wouldnt pull 60ft on motor its best was like a 1.97 those passes were all on 26x10 m/t on hurricanes rear and ponies on the front

[Pure Stock]

i consider a long block heads down sorry i consider a short block to be no head just block and rotating assembly anyway with the stock intake it went 13.29 so there wasnt much of a change i think mph went from 109.6 to 109.8

So let me understand, you had a stock longblock including stock intake goin' 109.6 mph and you changed the intake and gained .02 mph? Is this with the 75 shot?

[fastfox91]

my best ever was 110.73 with the 75 shot but it only did it once all the rest were in the 109 area

[jtokosh]

1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0L
25th Year Anniversary Edition
GARAGE KEPT / NO RAIN / NO WINTERS

Engine- 302 ci Windsor
Top end fresh rebuild with E-303 Ford Hydralic Cam and Lifters Duration 282/ 282, Lift .498/ .498
24 Lbs Injectors Ford Racing / 65 MM Mass Air Flow sensor

BBK cold - air intake / fender mounted
Smog pump has been removed and by passed with pulley setup
Ford Racing blue hi- temp hoses
New thermostat and cooling system flushed
MSD Ignition Coil
1 5/8" Hooker Headers with Flowmaster 2 1/2" exhaust system
1" Intake fresh air spacer

Fresh tune up includes:
Double platinum Autolite Spark plugs
8mm Accel Wires
Accel Cap and Rotor
Wix Fuel Filter

New Alternator
New battery
A/C- Needs Charged

Transmission- AOD Trans with 2200 B&M holeshot converter
NEW B&M Shift Kit and filter

Body- 3" Harwood cowl Induction Hood / fiberglass
New Headlight set up
Sunroof

Wheels- 16" Mustang Pony Wheels
Freshly sanded and painted
4 NEW TIRES Goodyear Z rated

Extra- Pioneer CD player/ detachable
B&M Ratchet Shifter
5" Autometer Tach / White face With external shift light
NEW Front pads and Front rotors and Wheel bearings
NEW Rear Drums and Rear shoes
NEW Front Struts and Mounts
NEW Rear Shocks
NEW Front End Alignment
NEW Lower Ball Joints
Power Mirrors
Power Windows

Rear End- FRESH 8.8 Inch Ford ALL NEW
Posi Trac 3:73 Ford Racing Set up
car has 99K on it.. timing at 14* advacned on 94 octane gas



i am running 13.9's all day long... whats my problem?
i do not spin tire at all and im launchin hard..

[Pure Stock]

Not enough info, post incrementals of run.

[351SVT]

Damn, i wish i still had my 93!

[earleymp]

What's the difference between the long and the short block? idk which i have..

[mustang50lx]

What's the difference between the long and the short block? idk which i have..

Short block=no heads
Long block includes heads

[earleymp]

So what do i have?

[92306gt]

So what do i have?
seriously?? does your engine have heads on it or not?

[ModularMike]

Short Block
http://image.carcraft.com/f/35389365/ccrp_1101_03_o+LS3_crate_motor_build+GMPP_short_bl ock.jpg

Long Block
http://www.dragtimes.com/images-classifieds-large/97-02-5.7L-LS1-Long-Block-Engine-Motor-Complete-Used-for-sale_290531882882.jpg


Its just how complete your engine is, its not a style of engine.

[earleymp]

Oh okay i got it, thanks mike, geez havin a brain fart.

[earleymp]

Getting a 5.0L into the coveted 12 sec e.t. is not as hard as it may seem. To attain sub-13 sec. e.t.s start with a 5-speed version of the 5.0L. Mix in a lightweight version (coupe), well thought out bolt-ons, traction e.g. slicks, and aggressive driving.

I have compiled a list based on facts, not generalizations and assumptions that has the potential to propel a stock long-blocked fox body into the 12's. A good tune is paramount in the quest to reach this goal.

- 26 x 8.5 x 15 slicks (can mount on turbines/10 holes and retain quad shock)

- 3.73, 4.10, 4.30 gear (select ratio depending upon tire height selection)

- Headers (long tubes>short tubes)

- Off road H or X (may need to replace to pass emissions test where applicable)

- Under-drive pulleys (may eliminate need for these if serpentine belt is eliminated, use caution if employing this mod and use at track only)

- Eliminate factory air silencer

- At a mininum use a K&N panel replacement filter

- Stock T.B. and M.A.F. will work. (track testing showed no loss of e.t. or gain in MPH when switching M.A.F. -same day testing-

- Remove front sway bar (helps with weight transfer)

- Remove stock clutch fan (*if* using underdrives)

- Short-belt (*if* underdrives are used)

- Advance timing (13-14 degrees is a good start)

- Adjustable fuel pressure regulator

- Remove unwanted weight ( you be the judge, what do you want to eliminate, *remember these small c.i.d. engines do not like to lug weight, removing approx. 100 lbs. of weight nets a mph increase)

- Practice, practice, and more practice. (If you are afraid to break something your leaving precious e.t. on the table)

Some additional mods to consider:

1. Synthetic lubricants throughout
2. Aftermarket rear control arms
3. Sub-frame connectors
4. Increasing air pressure in front tires to decrease rolling resistance
5. Aftermarket shifter
6. Battery relocated to rear of hatch/trunk
7. Air bag in passenger rear coil
8. Light weight wheels
9. Ice upper plenum (gains of 6-8 H.P. here -dyno tested-)

Mods that produce minimal gains if any:

1. off-the-shelf chips
2. aftermarket ignitions including expensive spark plugs
3. bigger injectors (contrary to popular belief upgrading injectors will *not* produce more power)

CAN WE MAKE THIS A STICKY?

so what gear would you recommend for my 245-45-17 tires? i want 3.73's but just making sure and asking around for the best thing for me before i buy em

[Pure Stock]

so what gear would you recommend for my 245-45-17 tires? i want 3.73's but just making sure and asking around for the best thing for me before i buy em

Best thing to do what? Steet and strip? Drag only? Autocross? Daily driver?

[earleymp]

oh ya, sorry. Street and strip! also, the fronts are 235's and the backs are 245's.