Volvo 16V head swap...

[map351]

The big controversy over the B234F 16V Volvo head installed on a Lima 2.3/2.5 block has been going on for some time now.
Phil Marshall/PM Motorsports in NY has made the swap work. Some say it's not worth the effort, some say it's a cheaper alternative to a 3500.00 ARCA alum. Esslinger head.. Word has it the car is making over 600Hp with a mildly ported head with stock cams.

"This is a video of PM Motorsports XR with the Volvo head on the lima block. From what I read, He put down mid 500 rwhp before it started burning the tires. This was at Carlisle this year. Enjoy!"

Here's a Vid of Phil's XR at Carlisle on the rollers...:awsome:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/0803/fastmaul/My%20vids/?action=view&current=PhilsDyno.flv

[Viper_ed]

Very Cool!!!!!!!!! :woot1:

[yeahloh95]

i have been reading up on the swap and there are some guys making big power with that head:goodidea:

[map351]

It nice when you can buy a 16V Volvo head for 40 Bux and make that kind of power...

[Viper_ed]

It nice when you can buy a 16V Volvo head for 40 Bux and make that kind of power...

Yes it is considering what a dog Volvo's are!


:deadhorse:

[Stangman701]

I saw the car on the dyno at Carlisle, it was pretty damn impressive

[wick]

I did not see the car but I did know about the head swap for a long time.

[lib88stang]

nice #'s:thumbsup:

[Martin0660]

snoore........It will never work, why bother, its not worth the effort ;)

Bob Myers < - 8 valve guy ;)

[loutheplumbr]

lots of welding and machine work to get one of those to fit

[fastfox91]

i seen it as well not sure if it was the tires smoking on the dyno or the tires rubbing the well lips on the quarters so bad that were causing the smoke. he had to acctully stop and cut a big hunk of it out because it started to cut into the tire and was throwing marble sized chunks of rubber into the crowd none the less very impressive 535hp

[map351]

lots of welding and machine work to get one of those to fit
I see your not up on current events, Don Haulsee bolted on a Volvo 16V head without any welding on the cyl head... 4 freeze plugs on the block deck!


http://www.amcansolutions.com/amcandocs/docs/16V%20Pictures/May%205%202007%20Engine%20On%20Stand/IM004812.JPG

[Viper_ed]

:laughing: Cultural Engineering at its finest! :pinkthumb:

[Martin0660]

:laughing: Cultural Engineering at its finest! :pinkthumb:

Take that away, and my car wouldnt even run. Sometimes i'm amazed what all those misc parts can do ;)

Bob Myers

[loutheplumbr]

do you have some more pics of that that looks like a possibiltyto do now

[map351]

Now for something complete different! :jump:

[yeahloh95]

:goodidea: now thats cool i would do that swap i'm all about loosing weight with an alum head , and that intake is sick

[map351]

:goodidea: now thats cool i would do that swap i'm all about loosing weight with an alum head , and that intake is sick

Yep the heads are 10Bux no welding now and a ton of turbo cams available!
Life is good...:yes:

[Martin0660]

That picture is on just about the right angle too for a volvo, forvo volord, whatever ;)

Troy = DO NOT start getting into what Mike is thinking, the next thing you will be dragging Pinto's home, looking for Volvo parts, maybe even fender flares. No good come come from it, just move along :D

Bob Myers

[map351]

Bob's building one in the basement to try on your car Troy!
The Boss told me...:p

[map351]

Watch this Vid & watch the TB hose when Don wacks the throttle.
I think he needs the move to 3" and a real Kooler...
Look mom no welding..:thmbsup:

http://www.amcansolutions.com/amcandocs/docs/16V%20Pictures/video%20with%20sound/start_run.wmv


http://www.amcansolutions.com/amcandocs/docs/16V%20Pictures/video%20with%20sound/

[yeahloh95]

Bob's building one in the basement to try on your car Troy!
The Boss told me...:p

oh yeah i can't wait :laughing1:

[Martin0660]

Troy = DO NOT start getting into what Mike is thinking


oh yeah i can't wait :laughing1:

Troy - I warned you........ now you are on your own!

Mike - The boss is too busy looking for an Element ;)

You should see the project thats going on in the basement, conversion box to make the mass air WIRING plug and play :D

Bob Myers

[map351]

Turbo skunk works...:bouncy:
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A little info on Phil's Merkur junk yard Volvo head. Here's the pull at Carlisle..

Not bad for stock cams .380 direct tappet and a clean up porting..
What was the price of that ARCA head again?:p

http://www.amcansolutions.com/amcandocs/docs/16V_Merkur_Dyno_Chart.JPG

[yeahloh95]

oh yeah mass air i want that in the worst way :woot1: :woot1: get my vam outa here:bouncy:

[map351]

oh yeah mass air i want that in the worst way :woot1: :woot1: get my vam outa here:bouncy:

Why? Joe Morgans Pinto went mid 10s with a VAM...:yes:

[yeahloh95]

REALLY ? how with bigger inj , i have heard you can run bigger ones but drivablilty suffers.

[map351]

REALLY ? how with bigger inj , i have heard you can run bigger ones but drivablilty suffers.

It's all here...

http://pintopage.fordpinto.com/Poisonous%20Pinto.htm

[Martin0660]

REALLY ? how with bigger inj , i have heard you can run bigger ones but drivablilty suffers.

To put it in perspective, I'm probably making more MOTOR horsepower than Morgan was. You have to remeber he ran a big dry kit and brought the rest of the fuel by smashing the regulator with the shot. Look at an injector sizing program, and plug the 35's in at 100 psi once ;) I made maybe 330 hp?? with the brown tops at 55 psi base fuel and it idled and drove just fine.

Lots of myths out there, that or i'm just really lucky ;)

Bob Myers

[2005mach1]

Yes it is considering what a dog Volvo's are!


:deadhorse:
i love volvos, my mothers V70 2.5T is pretty quick for a station wagon:snicker:

[Killercanary]

Holy thread revival batman. This is a >2yr old thread and it was revived why???

[2001GTTT]

LOL noobz

[map351]

Some new info from Bo Port..

"Orko donated a volvo B234 head to the shop for me to tinker with, and after seeing promising gains recently with a current customers head (which I performed a basic stage 1 port job on) I was curious to see what these heads could do with a little more work. This head has the stock valve job on it and stock valves which have been mildly modified (back cut). I initially gave the port a conventional full port and saw decent gains. After I took some velocity measurements though I discovered the velocity near the port entrance was much higher than desirable at 450ft/sec. I then added some cross sectional area at the entrance and some in the rest of the port. This dropped velocity down to a still "high" but reasonable 350ft/sec in addition to bringing flow up further with no loss in the low and mid lift regions. By looking at the below flow chart, you can tell this port could really benefit from an oversized valve, harnessing some of the available flow at higher lifts at lower lifts through increased curtain area. I feel this port could easily hit 300cfm with realistic valve lifts. Until someone wants to donate some funds to really go "all out" on one of these though, this will have to do for a Boport stage 3 volvo port job:

Lift---Stock---Stage 3 Volvo--ARCA
.050"---42.1-------42.0-------33.7
.100"---85.1-------87.0-------61.3
.150"--123.9------132.3-------91.6
.200"--164.1------175.8-------122.0
.250"--198.5------210.1-------149.8
.300"--219.2------229.6-------175.8
.350"--226.4------248.8-------198.5
.400"--229.6------259.8-------218.6
.450"--231.6------267.9-------236.1
.500"--234.1------276.0-------252.3
.550"--235.4------282.1-------265.9
.600"--235.4------284.5-------275.0

Poor ARCA..... "

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa50/boportracingheads/0012-2.jpg
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Now here's something interesting, No info on porting or cams BUT it's making some BIG power!

YouTube- SHS-performance sin Volvo 242 på Sommertreff 2008

http://inlinethumb20.webshots.com/21459/2733501480038663969S600x600Q85.jpg