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blkp42e
09-19-2007, 10:36 AM
im throwing around the idea of getting my twisted wedge heads fixed and ported, or just fixed and sell them to step up to a set of the R series heads.
my stock Twisted wedge ones flow 170cc Intake and the R series flow 205cc intakes.
i know bigger isnt always better, so i dont want to step up to too much of a head for my combo.
http://www.trickflow.com/product/fordcylinderheads/rseriescnc_sbford/pr_rcnc_sbford.asp
my cam:
http://blogphotohost.com/imgt/87484Fc82eWbb46S0bb2705Cf549S3f5.jpg (http://blogphotohost.com/show.php?id=87484Fc82eWbb46S0bb2705Cf549S3f5)
stock bottom end with a ported gt40 lower and cobra upper. made 448rwhp on the trick flow heads at 10psi
gmkillr
09-19-2007, 10:49 AM
im throwing around the idea of getting my twisted wedge heads fixed and ported, or just fixed and sell them to step up to a set of the R series heads.
my stock Twisted wedge ones flow 170cc Intake and the R series flow 205cc intakes.
i know bigger isnt always better, so i dont want to step up to too much of a head for my combo.
http://www.trickflow.com/product/fordcylinderheads/rseriescnc_sbford/pr_rcnc_sbford.asp
my cam:
http://blogphotohost.com/imgt/87484Fc82eWbb46S0bb2705Cf549S3f5.jpg (http://blogphotohost.com/show.php?id=87484Fc82eWbb46S0bb2705Cf549S3f5)
stock bottom end with a ported gt40 lower and cobra upper. made 448rwhp on the trick flow heads at 10psi
The 170 cc heads dont flow 170 cfm, that the size of the combustion chamber for each set of heads. The 205cc heads have a 205 intake runner volume, and they flow a good bit more than 205 cfm.
Get your 170cc heads ported by tea or foxlake and you'll make more power than what you'll know what to do with. Rurn the boost up on your current setup & make the extra power, easier & cheaper than doing the heads.
Good luck!!:goodidea:
Domination
09-19-2007, 10:57 AM
The 170 cc heads dont flow 170 cfm, that the Intake runner volume for each set of heads. The 205cc heads have a 205cc intake runner volume, and they flow a good bit more than 205 cfm.
Get your 170cc heads ported by Domination and you'll make more power than what you'll know what to do with. Rurn the boost up on your current setup & make the extra power, easier & cheaper than doing the heads.
Good luck!!:goodidea:
Fixed:pinkthumb:
Viper_ed
09-19-2007, 10:57 AM
You're going to have a major Piston to Valve clearance issue with the bigger valves of the R heads and the stock pistons, so plan on changing out the pistons as well.
Viper_ed
09-19-2007, 10:58 AM
Fixed:pinkthumb:
No offense Jay, but you are not even close to being in the same league as TEA or Fox Lake when it comes to head porting. :no:
Domination
09-19-2007, 11:04 AM
Oh, I thought they where doing it by hand. I didn't realize they had a CNC program for his heads.
Viper_ed
09-19-2007, 11:04 AM
Oh, I thought they where doing it by hand. I didn't realize they had a CNC program for his heads.
:yes: and Ron at Fox Lake basically invented his heads.
Domination
09-19-2007, 11:10 AM
Well, CNC ported head are Dough, and I'm right down the street from Wright pontiac, soo....:goodidea:
Viper_ed
09-19-2007, 11:11 AM
Well, CNC ported head are Dough, and I'm right down the street from Wright pontiac, soo....:goodidea:
If you're going to do something, do it right the 1st time!!!
http://www.foxlakeracing.com/index.php?submenu=Cylinder_Heads&src=gendocs&link=TFS%20Twisted%20Wedge%20Heads
Pure Stock
09-19-2007, 11:14 AM
If your gonna do a T.W. cylinder head try the T.W. 185. The R-Series is a huge mis-match on a stock short block and would most likely require flycutting of the pistons. Give Brian Tooley a call at T.E.A. (1-330-634-2155) Explain your goals to him and I'm sure he will have you pointed in the right direction.:goodidea:
Domination
09-19-2007, 11:15 AM
Holy crap, 600$ for a CNC job. That ain't bad!
Pure Stock
09-19-2007, 11:16 AM
Holy crap, 600$ for a CNC job. That ain't bad!
What is your labor rate on porting cylinder heads?
Pure Stock
09-19-2007, 11:17 AM
If you're going to do something, do it right the 1st time!!!
http://www.foxlakeracing.com/index.php?submenu=Cylinder_Heads&src=gendocs&link=TFS%20Twisted%20Wedge%20Heads
big +1 here too.
blkp42e
09-19-2007, 11:19 AM
what stage are you guys referring to? stage 1 or 2? if i did anything, id have domination fix the heads and send them out to fox lake and probably opt for the
Stage 1 CNC FAST Port & Upgrade
Your heads-Our Porting & Valve Spring upgrade
with new seals, Assembled
$900 though. ouch!
venom
09-19-2007, 11:19 AM
If you're going to do something, do it right the 1st time!!!
http://www.foxlakeracing.com/index.php?submenu=Cylinder_Heads&src=gendocs&link=TFS%20Twisted%20Wedge%20Heads
+1. i have stage 1's for now.
Domination
09-19-2007, 11:21 AM
What is your labor rate on porting cylinder heads?
50 an hour. I can get a set of aluminum heads decent in around 4-6 hours.
Rodeheaver's
09-19-2007, 12:33 PM
The 170 cc heads dont flow 170 cfm, that the size of the combustion chamber for each set of heads. The 205cc heads have a 205 combustion chamber, and they flow a good bit more than 205 cfm.
Get your 170cc heads ported by tea or foxlake and you'll make more power than what you'll know what to do with. Rurn the boost up on your current setup & make the extra power, easier & cheaper than doing the heads.
Good luck!!:goodidea:
WRONG, 170cc or 205cc is reffering to the port VOLUME, if you had a 205cc combustion chamber your compresson would be like 4:1 with dome pistons, most head have a 60-70cc combustion chamber, and yes the runner volume number is not the amount of flow:goodidea:
gmkillr
09-19-2007, 12:37 PM
Yes, I was typing fast w/ a baby on my lap, I fixed it.
Thanks
Rodeheaver's
09-19-2007, 12:43 PM
I do all my own port work and some for customers, the head on the left is about done, the one on the right is very far away..
coralcoupe1993
09-19-2007, 12:44 PM
Fox lake is getting my TFS heads and intake this winter. If you want, I can take your heads when I drop mine off. :bouncy:
Rodeheaver's
09-19-2007, 12:44 PM
Yes, I was typing fast w/ a baby on my lap, I fixed it.
Thanks
Cool, not trying to be a poop head, but i like to see correct info so the newbs dont get to far off track:rotflol:
coralcoupe1993
09-19-2007, 12:47 PM
Yes, I was typing fast w/ a baby on my lap, I fixed it.
Thanks
Taking the baby to the track today? :laughing:
blkp42e
09-19-2007, 01:26 PM
Fox lake is getting my TFS heads and intake this winter. If you want, I can take your heads when I drop mine off. :bouncy:
lemmie know when you're heading out there.
coralcoupe1993
09-19-2007, 01:58 PM
lemmie know when you're heading out there.
Will do! :awsome:
gmkillr
09-19-2007, 02:26 PM
Taking the baby to the track today? :laughing:
No, he'll be at my Mom's!
Are you goin??
coralcoupe1993
09-19-2007, 08:51 PM
No, he'll be at my Mom's!
Are you goin??
I wish. I have so much stuff to do at work and I need to change the gears in my car. I am going through at around 108mph but very low RPM in 4th. I need 4:30s not the 3:73s that are in it. They worked great with my DRs but with the slicks.
gmkillr
09-20-2007, 01:50 AM
Were goin to Quaker City Friday, you should come out there, its alot of fun.
Jess & Bobby will be there too.
2000GT
09-20-2007, 08:13 AM
I wish. I have so much stuff to do at work and I need to change the gears in my car. I am going through at around 108mph but very low RPM in 4th. I need 4:30s not the 3:73s that are in it. They worked great with my DRs but with the slicks.
I am running into the same probelm with my slicks so it is 4.10 time!
coralcoupe1993
09-20-2007, 03:15 PM
Were goin to Quaker City Friday, you should come out there, its alot of fun.
Jess & Bobby will be there too.
I wish my car was done...
coralcoupe1993
09-20-2007, 03:16 PM
I am running into the same probelm with my slicks so it is 4.10 time!
I may go 4:30s but if I build any more power :rolleyes: that may be too much.
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