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Pure Stock
09-30-2007, 11:34 PM
Got a question for you all. We have been kicking around the idea of a Pure Street entry next year. Most likely it will be a pushrod 310.7" c.i.d. mill with EFI. Manual trans deal. The cylinder heads and intake are 75% decided.

What suggestions about this class/car in general do you have?

This class mandates a 26x10 inch tire, diaphram clutch, hydraulic roller with .500" lift, N/A, and a 3,150 weight with driver for the combo I plan on running.

gmkillr
09-30-2007, 11:49 PM
What kind of e.t.'s would you need to run to be competetive?
Would you have the ability to travel the country to enter all of the races?
Or would you try and hit the local ones?
I'll call you tommorow.:veryhappy:

Pure Stock
10-01-2007, 12:10 AM
What kind of e.t.'s would you need to run to be competetive?
Would you have the ability to travel the country to enter all of the races?
Or would you try and hit the local ones?
I'll call you tommorow.:veryhappy:

10.2x's-10.4x's@127-129:)
The first two are in the deep south and I would miss those and try to stay semi-local.
Try to hit 4 out of the 8 would be the goal for the first season.

gmkillr
10-01-2007, 12:16 AM
10.2x's-10.4x's@127-129:)
The first two are in the deep south and I would miss those and try to stay semi-local.
Try to hit 4 out of the 8 would be the goal for the first season.


Thats cool man!
Thats real fast n/a!!
Dont the real fast guys go 9.80-9.90's?

I got this from there site:

Pure Street is designed for naturally aspirated small block 1979 and newer Ford Fox Chassis bodied and Ford powered vehicles including 2005 4.6L Mustangs. Pure Street entries are limited to 302, and 4.6L modular engine types. 302 engine types are permitted a maximum of 311 cubic inches. 4.6L modular engines are permitted a maximum of 289 cubic inches.

Pure Stock
10-01-2007, 01:07 AM
The quickest pass in P/S legal trim is a 10.22@129.xx The best e.t.'s *usually* occur at Bowling Green KY this upcoming weekend.

yeahloh95
10-01-2007, 06:27 AM
what will your car need to be class legal ?and i think its a great idea:pepper:

Rodeheaver's
10-01-2007, 08:34 AM
I would deff use an anderson motorsports cam.....

Pure Stock
10-01-2007, 09:38 AM
what will your car need to be class legal ?and i think its a great idea:pepper:

1. Passenger side seat
2. 26x10 M/T ET Drag slicks (10" wheels not mandatory but needed)
3. .500" max lift hydraulic roller cam
4. 3150 lb. min. weight with driver
5. add an alternator
6. must utilize an air filter
7. no ram-air set-up
8. install carpet and hatch interior plastic

Wolfpack Speed
10-01-2007, 09:51 AM
What suggestions about this class/car in general do you have?

just get the car class legal and go have fun!!! you need at least a year of class experience to find your way and get the car where it needs to be. to be competitive at that point, your going to have to be on the edge every pass you make. taking the long term approach to a specific class is the way to go imo. it will save you money in the long run and if you can make friends with your classmates, they will teach you most of what you need to know!!!

gmkillr
10-01-2007, 10:09 AM
I would deff use an anderson motorsports cam.....



Lol!!!!!!:laughing:

Pure Stock
10-01-2007, 10:24 AM
Lol!!!!!!:laughing:

I was thinkin' more along the lines of a B303:bouncy:

351SVT
10-01-2007, 01:49 PM
I will supply security for a "Team Pure Stock" t-shirt.

Viper_ed
10-01-2007, 02:07 PM
Are you and Chris going to make this a 2 car team venture?

Pure Stock
10-01-2007, 08:44 PM
I will supply security for a "Team Pure Stock" t-shirt.


We'll slide you into one of those 2XL's. :biglaugh:

yeahloh95
10-01-2007, 09:17 PM
i want in too :highfive:

Rodeheaver's
10-01-2007, 10:57 PM
I will lend a hand:goodidea:

Pure Stock
10-01-2007, 11:15 PM
Looks like all I need to do now is collect some parts and set up a tent outside of Hybrid. And :lookitup: the rulebook again and do some more :scratchchin:

Pure Stock
10-01-2007, 11:21 PM
What's anybody's thoughts on doing a billet cranks and rods? Are there any gains to be had in a lightweight rotating assembly. I believe there is the longevity factor with the lightweight stuff. How I look at it is, the rod and piston have to be accelerated and stopped and the lighter they are the less wear on bearings and such. And if you follow that logic we may be able to gain some power??? Any thoughts?

Rodeheaver's
10-01-2007, 11:50 PM
What's anybody's thoughts on doing a billet cranks and rods? Are there any gains to be had in a lightweight rotating assembly. I believe there is the longevity factor with the lightweight stuff. How I look at it is, the rod and piston have to be accelerated and stopped and the lighter they are the less wear on bearings and such. And if you follow that logic we may be able to gain some power??? Any thoughts?
yes yes and yes, billet stuff isnt just stronger, there are many bennys, like knife edged crank, improved oil passages, internal balence and the ability to withstand EXTREME RPMs...

Rodeheaver's
10-01-2007, 11:54 PM
does this class permit any power adders??

gmkillr
10-02-2007, 12:22 AM
does this class permit any power adders??

No.:bouncy:

DING
10-02-2007, 10:56 AM
A Dart Block for starters and light weight innurds.

A custom growned cam

Twisted Wedge Heads. Don't worry about the weight penalty you will make it up in HP

Sturdy clutch and trans maybe a spare

Alot of DYNO time and testing.

Go out and have fun... Let me know if you need anything. I will more than likely be at all the events next year.

gmkillr
10-02-2007, 11:04 AM
I know your not the craziest about Jay Allen, but I would contact him & see what he could do for you. He'll work with you on every aspect of the car not just the motor. Tell him your goals & let him pick the exact parts w/ your input.

Pure Stock
10-02-2007, 09:23 PM
A Dart Block for starters and light weight innurds.

A custom growned cam

Twisted Wedge Heads. Don't worry about the weight penalty you will make it up in HP

Sturdy clutch and trans maybe a spare

Alot of DYNO time and testing.

Go out and have fun... Let me know if you need anything. I will more than likely be at all the events next year.

Sounds good man:awsome:

Pure Stock
10-02-2007, 09:25 PM
I know your not the craziest about Jay Allen, but I would contact him & see what he could do for you. He'll work with you on every aspect of the car not just the motor. Tell him your goals & let him pick the exact parts w/ your input.

I believe the off the shelf bump-stick mentality is gonna have to be put back *on* the shelf.

yeahloh95
10-03-2007, 09:40 AM
I Wonder Where Your Cam Would Be With 1.5 Rockers ?

Pure Stock
10-03-2007, 12:02 PM
I Wonder Where Your Cam Would Be With 1.5 Rockers ?

Duration needs to be increased drastically. Duration @ .050 is around 250's-260's if not more. Remember they are spinning them around 8,000 rpm or better.:goodidea:

yeahloh95
10-03-2007, 12:11 PM
Oh So You Mean Shaft Mount Rockers , And I Know You Will Be Adding SOME Weight But At Least Some Can You Go Where You Want.

Pure Stock
10-03-2007, 12:17 PM
Oh So You Mean Shaft Mount Rockers , And I Know You Will Be Adding SOME Weight But At Least Some Can You Go Where You Want.

Valvetrain stability/lightness will be one of the keys to enable the high rpm nature. Damn near 300 lbs. of ballast will be needed. I will also need to find some high flow mufflers and incorporate a valve/petcock along the feed line for gas at a certain point in the engine bay so gas can be checked after a run.

Viper_ed
10-03-2007, 01:03 PM
incorporate a valve/petcock along the feed line for gas at a certain point in the engine bay so gas can be checked after a run.

Do they limit the amount of octane you can run in that class? Could you just hook a valve onto the schrader fitting to check the gas?

somethingclever
10-03-2007, 01:10 PM
carb or FI?

Pure Stock
10-03-2007, 01:22 PM
carb or FI?

EFI. For now.:)

04yellowcobra
10-04-2007, 07:22 PM
I have been chatting with some of the JPC boys from down this way and the factory stock cars are running roller cam bearings and some crazy money in a "stock" long block. I can see if I can find out some more info on their pure stock cars if you want. I don't get to the track to often but I will more than likely be taking my buddies car down there to have some work done on it.

Later

Pure Stock
10-04-2007, 10:14 PM
I have been chatting with some of the JPC boys from down this way and the factory stock cars are running roller cam bearings and some crazy money in a "stock" long block. I can see if I can find out some more info on their pure stock cars if you want. I don't get to the track to often but I will more than likely be taking my buddies car down there to have some work done on it.

Later

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