Anyone with a modular fox?

[White5.0]

just wondering if anyone on this site has a 4.6 or 5.4 in their fox body... I remember SVTGT's thread about his terminator fox and was wondering if anyone else has it done. if so post some pics!

[biminiLX]

My bro's got a nice one:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/jotting/car1.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/jotting/engine1.jpg
Its a runner too....10.70s all day off idle.
I can answer most questions. I helped him with getting parts and info., but he did it all himself.
-J

[SV1000s]

that's the first 4 eyed modular I've seen. Looks beautiful!!!


:goodidea::goodidea::goodidea::goodidea::goodidea: :goodidea::goodidea::goodidea:

[White5.0]

holy $hit...that is SO clean

i'd love to hear about all that is needed done to perform a swap like this (aside from getting all the parts). do you have to make any modifications to the firewall, do you need an sn-95 kmember, etc.?

[SVTGT]

there are a few companys making K-members for mod foxes now, i got mine from maximum motorsports, and didnt have to touch the firewall, if you have any real specific questions feel free to pm me.

[biminiLX]

No mods needed to firewall. He used:
PA K-member for a Fox w/ 4.6 mounts
stock 4.6 mounts
MAC 1 5/8" Cobra headers (only slight clearancing needed on drivers side)
all stock Cobra front accesories with an AC delete idler pulley from FRPP
aftermarket Fox radiator but still needed to keep the 4.6 coolant reservoir (or at least he had to or there were issues and thats a GT500 one he used ;))
Detail Zone custom harness w/ SCT tuned (Lidio at Alternative Auto) factory Mach 1 ECU (can use any 4V stock ECU and the harness is reasonable $$$ but does require basic electrical skills as you get a 'motherboard' and run wires from all sensors to labled pins---not too bad and makes it clean, but assembly required. He also had them use early style injector harness when building it to be able to run bigger injectors, I'd suggest this).
Most complicated change is that you have to go with the '94+ Hydroboost brakes/MC or manual brakes. He got all the parts from a '99 GT and looped the system as he runs a manual rack. Car stops much better with the Hydroboost and STOCK :eek: '86 brakes.
Hmmm, thats all I can think of, let me know what else you want to know.
Its not as bad as it seems and the car starts and drives like a stock Cobra (in a 500# lighter chassis w/ C4 and 3.73s)---even got 16+mpg on a 140 round trip to the Woodward Dreamcruise.
-J

[White5.0]

no i dont really have any specific questions...i was just curious as to what is all involved. i just think its the best combo ever because i absolutely love fox bodies and the modular motors are so efficient and reliable.

[White5.0]

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[SVTGT]

lol i though the hardest part was cuting my swaybar bracket off. ill also be running an AEM full tand alone engine managment, and a florida 5.0 autometer gauge cluster. and biminilx wheres your brothers car at, since im still a work in progress and wouldnt mind taking alook at it to see how he did some things

[biminiLX]

Toledo, OH---sorry :dunno:
You'll have to join us at Norwalk this season to see it but ask away.
-J

[Troll]

holy $hit...that is SO clean
:iagree: that engine bay is spotless and the smooth body work on the fenderwells and firewall is excellent. :awsome::awsome::awsome:

[wick]

J, that thing is absoloutly beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice job there man!!!

[shawnsvtcobra]

Very nice stang man, nice conversion.

[racefan]

I have an 80 trunk car that we are doing the same thing. gathering parts now for a spring build and it will have a big Carb on top!!!!:awsome:

[393rag]

I've thought about a carb'd mod motor a lot for my notch

[SV1000s]

dumb question....what's the advantage of a carbed mod motor as compared to a computer controlled fuel injection setup?

I know that with the carbed setup you don't have to worry about alot of the computer BS....but isn't a computer controlled setup (carb or fuelie) alot easier to "fine" tune?


I'm not an electrical or mechanical genious hence the reason I ask......:dunno:

I assume right now that it all simply boils down to personal preference...hell, I've never seen a carb'd mod motor in person.

[393rag]

dumb question....what's the advantage of a carbed mod motor as compared to a computer controlled fuel injection setup?

I know that with the carbed setup you don't have to worry about alot of the computer BS....but isn't a computer controlled setup (carb or fuelie) alot easier to "fine" tune?


I'm not an electrical or mechanical genious hence the reason I ask......:dunno:

I assume right now that it all simply boils down to personal preference...hell, I've never seen a carb'd mod motor in person.

Simplicity, and it costs a lot less. Plus there aren't many out there and it would be cool.:veryhappy:

[racefan]

dumb question....what's the advantage of a carbed mod motor as compared to a computer controlled fuel injection setup?

I know that with the carbed setup you don't have to worry about alot of the computer BS....but isn't a computer controlled setup (carb or fuelie) alot easier to "fine" tune?


I'm not an electrical or mechanical genious hence the reason I ask......:dunno:

I assume right now that it all simply boils down to personal preference...hell, I've never seen a carb'd mod motor in person.

Just an idea from a old school hot rod dude. Less costs,less electronics, less parts(no power steering,brakes or other add-on stuff) less weight and 4 eyes for older racers!!!!!!

[ocracing]

now thats 1 great looking fox!

[SV1000s]

It would be pretty badass to see/hear a cammed and carbed mod motor in person :goodidea:

[racefan]

It would be pretty badass to see/hear a cammed and carbed mod motor in person :goodidea:

Hang Loose Man, it's coming this summer:thmbsup:

[racefan]

Toledo, OH---sorry :dunno:
You'll have to join us at Norwalk this season to see it but ask away.
-J

Mine was a 80 4cyl auto what did he do about the trans. mount?

[Sonic03snake]

Mine was a 80 4cyl auto what did he do about the trans. mount?
I already have that covered pops, I can't tell you everything.:awsome:

[White5.0]

It would be pretty badass to see/hear a cammed and carbed mod motor in person :goodidea:

i agree :bouncy:

[racefan]

I already have that covered pops, I can't tell you everything.:awsome:

Cool, got any cold beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sonic03snake]

Cool, got any cold beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just that fancy mexican stuff.:awsome:

[Sonic03snake]

I have an 80 trunk car that we are doing the same thing. gathering parts now for a spring build and it will have a big Carb on top!!!!:awsome:
Here it is, ugly right now but super solid.

[SV1000s]

Here it is, ugly right now but super solid.


She's gonna be SICK !! :thmbsup::thmbsup:

[biminiLX]

J, that thing is absoloutly beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice job there man!!!
Hey Rob, thanks man.

Just wanted to say thanks for the props to all that posted and say I can't take the credit, my brother did all the actual work.

For you guys that posted on the carb'd mod motor plans, check out the MM&FF mag from a few months back. It had a huge 4V mod motor intake shoot-out including carbs and the intake adapters that will let you use SBF 302 intakes---pretty cool idea. It is a very good read if you're getting into the 4V.
From what I remember the carb intakes did OK, but lost a bunch of mid-range hp/tq. Just FYI as I know there are other reasons to go carb, but the performance will suffer a little.
-J

[Sonic03snake]

For you guys that posted on the carb'd mod motor plans, check out the MM&FF mag from a few months back. It had a huge 4V mod motor intake shoot-out including carbs and the intake adapters that will let you use SBF 302 intakes---pretty cool idea. It is a very good read if you're getting into the 4V.
From what I remember the carb intakes did OK, but lost a bunch of mid-range hp/tq. Just FYI as I know there are other reasons to go carb, but the performance will suffer a little.
-J
Thanks for the info, I think a healthy dose of N2O will address the mid range loss. LOL.:thmbsup:

[biminiLX]

Thanks for the info, I think a healthy dose of N2O will address the mid range loss. LOL.:thmbsup:
That or an Eaton :thumbsup:
-J

[biminiLX]

My bro's got a nice one:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/jotting/car1.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g215/jotting/engine1.jpg

-J
Update, went 10.62@126.7 with the 60' off a tenth from last year do to T&T prep.
BTW, thats DRIVING to the track on E85 and hotlapping :goodidea:.
This will be a 10.50 street car after Norwalk FFW.
-J

[White5.0]

Update, went 10.62@126.7 with the 60' off a tenth from last year do to T&T prep.
BTW, thats DRIVING to the track on E85 and hotlapping :goodidea:.
This will be a 10.50 street car after Norwalk FFW.
-J

wow, that's impressive....i LOVE that car hahah