Quickest/Fastest N/A Stock short block H/C/I *Tear Down Party*

[Pure Stock]

On April 12th 2008 the fastest/quickest N/A NON-flycut stock bottom end 302 H/C/I will be torn down to verify the validity of the claims associated with this particular combination. During this day the said car will be flogged down the quarter mile multiple times to verify e.t. After the e.t.'s are generated the tear down will commence. Inspection of the pistons, bore, stroke, etc. will be completed. The cam specs will not be disclosed.

Location: Cecil County Dragway- Rising Sun, MD

Time: 2 pm

[Rio94gt]

Whoes car is this? This would be something to see.

[Pure Stock]

Whoes car is this? This would be something to see.

My buggy Rio.

[Rio94gt]

Dude if my shit were done by then which it most likely will not id be there with you. Thats a far drive to go without something to race. Damb not having my car ready sooner sucks.

[yeahloh95]

I'll Be There Should I Bring Tools ?

[Killercanary]

Are you videoing it Joe? I would do it for you if I was going.

[Pure Stock]

I'll Be There Should I Bring Tools ?

No tools needed. Just as many forms of authentic documentation as we can think of.

[Pure Stock]

Are you videoing it Joe? I would do it for you if I was going.

C'mon be a part of the majic dust cam in block 302.:D

[351SVT]

Make sure we bring enough fuel for the generator! I'm signed up for crowd control.

[gmkillr]

Who's asking for the teardown?
What's the purpose?

[fastfox91]

Who's asking for the teardown?
What's the purpose?

i was wondering the same thing

[Martin0660]

Just as many forms of authentic documentation as we can think of.

I can be an objective witness for the right $$$'s. Whatever you want it to be ;)

Bob Myers

[gmkillr]

i was wondering the same thing


Well???:D

[gmkillr]

I seen this over on the corral.
http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1007706
Doesn't look like you have many friends over in the lounge area Joe.
You should have posted it in the 5.0 tech section.

[phillysrt4]

wow corral is harsh :(

[somethingclever]

wow coral is harsh :(

Yes it is...very jaggy and sharp edges. I was once cut by coral while scuba diving in Jamaica.

[SV1000s]

Yes it is...very jaggy and sharp edges. I was once cut by coral while scuba diving in Jamaica.


LOL. Ok Joe so what gives...you started this thread and you haven't responded to any of the questions....what brings about the tear down?????? Inquiring minds want to know :goodidea:

[Killercanary]

I hope after the tear down its not getting re-assembled as-is. If you go that far into it, put some more cubes, more compression, lighter rotating assembly or something in there.

[fastfox91]

why does this have to be done at cecil county? why couldnt it be done at prp or beaver springs? they are alot closer than cecil county.

[349Stroker]

I got one better

wait till the last week of July and come to a saturday TNT at BSD!


why does this car always have to run in 40 degree weather and on a downhill track to run it's numbers?

[phillysrt4]

why does this car always have to run in 40 degree weather and on a downhill track to run it's numbers?

because not everyone can get to Atco :biglaugh:

[351SVT]

I got one better

wait till the last week of July and come to a saturday TNT at BSD!


why does this car always have to run in 40 degree weather and on a downhill track to run it's numbers?

We can find a trailer if you want to go to cecil. :rolleyes2:

[349Stroker]

Any day I want my car to go 3 or 4 tenths faster than anywhere else on the east coast I'd go to cecil

You are missing the point or should I say ignoring it!

If this car is so fast then why does it have to run in those conditions especially when he is what less than an hour from PRP!

Like I said BSD in late July on a sat TNT and I'm here to say it doesn't even run 10's let alone a mid 10

[SV1000s]

a 10.6 is a 10.6 no matter what the conditions. I don't understand what the issue is. The track doesn't matter...the time slips do!

And if anyone's upset at their times, then maybe they should run at Cecil if it truly is "faster". I certainly would :pinkthumb:

[fastfox91]

a 10.6 is a 10.6 no matter what the conditions. I don't understand what the issue is. The track doesn't matter...the time slips do!

And if anyone's upset at their times, then maybe they should run at Cecil if it truly is "faster". I certainly would :pinkthumb:

so u are telling me that no matter were u are at in the world the same car will run the same times, if thats the case u have no idea what u are talking about, there are so many factors that play a role from track to track. i was talking to people that race at beaver and then made a trip to mri, same car un touched from one weekend to the next picking up almost a half a second. with weather conditions almost the same as far as temperature. as far as the 10.6 at cecil thats great in all but i also asked this same question in another thread about why this has to take place in cecil county when there is a drag strip that close to him. everytime i have heard anything about this car being on a race track it has been that one.

[SV1000s]

so u are telling me that no matter were u are at in the world the same car will run the same times, if thats the case u have no idea what u are talking about, there are so many factors that play a role from track to track. i was talking to people that race at beaver and then made a trip to mri, same car un touched from one weekend to the next picking up almost a half a second. with weather conditions almost the same as far as temperature. as far as the 10.6 at cecil that is awesome, but what wheelstander is saying this car has to have certain conditions to produce these numbers.


I meant that a 10.6 is a 10.6. If it was run in death valley or on the California coast in the fall...who cares, it's still a 10.6 Sorry should have explained that a little better in my prior post.

[Killercanary]

i also asked this same question in another thread about why this has to take place in cecil county when there is a drag strip that close to him. everytime i have heard anything about this car being on a race track it has been that one.

I can't speak for Joe but I assume he is racing at cecil for the same reasons I used to. Its a great track with great people working it, there are a lot of great people that attend the event, and its also a mustang track rental day where you get multiple runs on a very well prepped surface unlike most of the tracks around here. I used to go to PRP every week for TNT until I started going to cecil. All in all, I spent the same amount of money to race at Cecil twice a year at the SSOTN events as I did going weekly to PRP. In doing so I was actually able to test and tune my car since I got more than 2-3 runs in, and it didn't require as much beating on the car as did weekly trips to PRP. Also, the track was very prepped and therefore consistent. I got more enjoyment, and more data from racing at Cecil twice a year than I ever did racing weekly at PRP. Like I said, I can't speak for Joe but I suspect that these things play just as an important role in him racing there as the fact that its a faster track than PRP.

[yeahloh95]

i have ran at all the tracks prp ,beaver , cecil and mason i lke mason the best only because of how close it is, cecil is next then prp, beavers people are nice, but i just can't get any traction there , i ran at cecil 3 years ago and hooked so hard i almost stalled the car lol

[biminiLX]

i have ran at all the tracks prp ,beaver , cecil and mason i lke mason the best only becaus eof how close it is cecil is next then prp beavers people are nice but i just can't get any traction there , i ran at cecil 3 years ago and hooked so hard i almost stalled the car lol
Is there a track near Beaver? What's the info?
-J

[yeahloh95]

sorry beaver is short for beaver springs

[gmkillr]

And I guess the question of who wants the teardown will go un-answered as will whats the purpose of the tear down?:yes:

[SV1000s]

And I guess the question of who wants the teardown will go un-answered as will whats the purpose of the tear down?:yes:

x2...& let's not forget about the mystery gears installed in Cam's S197...lol

[2001GTTT]

Who cares where joe is gonna run his car and tear it down....its not your car, so keep your doubts to yourself until you see the car in person, I would go to norwalk every week instead of prp because thats where i ran my best time and thats where i can get traction.....As for the question of WHY this tear down is taking place, i wanna know too. Whats goin on joe??

[Pure Stock]

The purposes of the teardown are:

1. To dispell the myths associated with the combination.

2. To document the claims of said cubic inch displacement.

3. To illustrate the potential of a stock bottom end 302

4. Examine piston valve reliefs, revealing no flycutting was executed

[Viper_ed]

Face it Joe, you just need something to do! :biglaugh:

[Pure Stock]

Face it Joe, you just need something to do! :biglaugh:

Speaking of needing to do something, open that 8.8" inspection cover. :D

[cam303]

x2...& let's not forget about the mystery gears installed in Cam's S197...lol

The gears are 4.56's......no more mystery!!!:goodidea:

[Viper_ed]

Speaking of needing to do something, open that 8.8" inspection cover. :D

I guess I do have 2 of those that have never been opened up yet. ;)

[yeahloh95]

The gears are 4.56's......no more mystery!!!:goodidea:

thats what i would have put in :pepper:

[gmkillr]

Joe, Who's saying your claims aren't true? Too bad I cant be there this year, the car won't be ready and neither will I.
Good luck down there!:goodidea:

[SV1000s]

The gears are 4.56's......no more mystery!!!:goodidea:


NICE! obviously there's a big seat of the pants difference...what are your rpm's like at around 65 mph? I'm asking because I plan on getting some gears for my S197.

Thanks Cam !


Joe - I still can't believe you're doing a teardown at the track when nothing's broken...lol good for you though proving all the naysayers wrong :goodidea:

[351SVT]

Joe, i can't keep it a secret any more! The cam in joe's car is a stock 95 lightning flat tappet cam. Sorry joe!

[Pure Stock]

Joe, i can't keep it a secret any more! The cam in joe's car is a stock 95 lightning flat tappet cam. Sorry joe!

I thought the "secret" was in good hands with you. Never trust a guy who is in with Hughes.:pinkthumb:

[Viper_ed]

I thought the "secret" was in good hands with you. Never trust a guy who is in with Hughes.:pinkthumb:

I think the lack of a third pedal for all these years has finally got the best of him!

[04yellowcobra]

The cam in joe's car is a stock 95 lightning flat tappet cam. Sorry joe!

Rare!!!!!!

No wonder it runs so good. Joe if I don't go home that weekend I will defiantly be rolling up there. I don't have a ticket but I will come up there and watch everyone run!!

Later
Jason

[Balaska347]

Joe I think your crazy for tearing down your motor just so some idiots can see what you got. They aren't going to be anymore happy when its all down then they were before. They probably just want to watch you go through all that work.

Its not rocket science. Its not like your making 800 hp on a stock bottom end and there is some mystery on how your doing it. The car is making 367 hp its not impossible to do. What is so difficult for people to understand on how the car runs 10.6. You have a car that make 367 hp and weight almost nothing. You put a suspenion under the car that will hook and a tire with the right gear. I hope im not losing anyone. Now you take the car to Cecil and wawla you have a car that runs 10.6's take it to PRP and it probably runs 11.10 who knows but it is still fast.

Maybe in your equation you should have cecil in the calculation.
367*2825-.5sec(cecil)=10.60 and people will be able to sleep at night.

Yes my car runs 11.4's(hopefully 11.2's this year) at prp and would probably run 10.7's at cecil and quicker if I gutted and opened up the exhaust but thats not my cup of tea. I don't care what the timeslip says on the street its all even. The only people that think there is some mystery are the ones that don't understand how a car works.

If a flycut piston is putting you in the 10's I'm sending mine out to get done today :rofl:. Bottom line Joe it's your car and what do you have to prove. Anytime you have a fast car people are going to talk $hit thats when you know you are doing something right. :sticktonge: Don't tear it down Joe.

[SonofaBish]

Joe, Who's saying your claims aren't true?

x2???

[SV1000s]

You need to ask yourself.......

What would the Stig run?!?!?!


http://www.socialpicks.com/photo/name/2869/lil_stig.jpg

[SonofaBish]

You need to ask yourself.......

What would the Stig run?!?!?!


http://www.socialpicks.com/photo/name/2869/lil_stig.jpg
he doesnt care about cars that only go in a straight line.... :laughing:

[Martin0660]

I thought the "secret" was in good hands with you.

I think the "secret" is that you have been busy swapping out that fly cut stroker before you down there for the tear down :rotflol::rotflol::rotflol:


Yes my car runs 11.4's(hopefully 11.2's this year) at prp and would probably run 10.7's at cecil and quicker if I gutted and opened up the exhaust but thats not my cup of tea. I don't care what the timeslip says on the street its all even. The only people that think there is some mystery are the ones that don't understand how a car works.

X2 - I drive mine all the time and enjoy the snot out of it. Yeah, it could be quicker / faster if I stripped it and went to one of the mineshaft tracks, but what do we really have to prove to anyone? I have the quickest / fastest 2.3 at PRP that is driven there mostly every week. Do I get a cookie? If we arent doing this stuff for ourselves, whats the point ;)

Bob Myers

[351SVT]

Would you detail your car and run it down a muddy road or would you go find another way around? Joe built a solid car and is taking it to the best track he can find! Cecil is not a private track to members only, anyone can run there. If you want to get a good e.t., shell out some dough for gas and get down there! If you are satisfied with your times then don't leave the state.

[fastfox91]

dude get off his nuts no one is discerditing what he has done, just asking ?s u are the one who seems to be getting all up in arms over the things asked not him.

[349Stroker]

dude get off his nuts.



LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[349Stroker]

Would you detail your car and run it down a muddy road or would you go find another way around? Joe built a solid car and is taking it to the best track he can find! Cecil is not a private track to members only, anyone can run there. If you want to get a good e.t., shell out some dough for gas and get down there! If you are satisfied with your times then don't leave the state.



take your gas money and stick it up your ass.I don't wanna have to go to one track to prove I am fast I want to be able to go a couple places and run my time not just run down a mountain side at Cecil and say I am fast

[2001GTTT]

im not trying to take sides but wtf. who cares....just let him do what he wants to do, i think the point of this thread is to inform incase anyone was interested. Not worth fighting over :rolleyes2:.....

[coralcoupe1993]

I missed some stuff but this sounds fun....... Where are we going?

[Pure Stock]

take your gas money and stick it up your ass.I don't wanna have to go to one track to prove I am fast I want to be able to go a couple places and run my time not just run down a mountain side at Cecil and say I am fast

Stick it up your ass big mouth. You talk a lot of shit and have not one gawd damn e.t posted. Don't worry about why I run my car at Cecil. It's my car and I'll run it where in the hell I damn well please.

[Viper_ed]

:rollingfloorrlol:

Could Steel City Stangs be in for their own version of Pinks? :pepper:

[349Stroker]

1) my car isn't done so I can't post ET's

2)I know why you run your car at cecil and so does everyone else

3) I do have a big mouth and ain't afraid to use it


Like I said a nice 90 degree July day at BSD on a sat tnt but we all know that wouldn't happen

So just tear it down and show everyone it is a 93 stock shortblock with stage 1 trick flow heads and a big cam retarded to hell and back and pat yourself on the back some more and then leave it sit all summer till it is 40 degrees out again and run it down the mountain some more



Stick it up your ass big mouth. You talk a lot of shit and have not one gawd damn e.t posted. Don't worry about why I run my car at Cecil. It's my car and I'll run it where in the hell I damn well please.

[351SVT]

take your gas money and stick it up your ass.I don't wanna have to go to one track to prove I am fast I want to be able to go a couple places and run my time not just run down a mountain side at Cecil and say I am fast

DAVIES FORD
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Yahoo the directions, i'm there 8-5 monday-friday!

[SV1000s]

:biglaugh:http://www.ishkur.com/posters/internet.jpg

[351SVT]

1) my car isn't done so I can't post ET's

2)I know why you run your car at cecil and so does everyone else

3) I do have a big mouth and ain't afraid to use it


Like I said a nice 90 degree July day at BSD on a sat tnt but we all know that wouldn't happen

So just tear it down and show everyone it is a 93 stock shortblock with stage 1 trick flow heads and a big cam retarded to hell and back and pat yourself on the back some more and then leave it sit all summer till it is 40 degrees out again and run it down the mountain some more

1) Who's going to finish it for you?

2)I'm willing to give up my ticket so you can run a cecil and i can video the run and post it here.

3)Why don't you use that mouth and ask someone to finish your car?

[Pure Stock]

1) my car isn't done so I can't post ET's

2)I know why you run your car at cecil and so does everyone else

3) I do have a big mouth and ain't afraid to use it


Like I said a nice 90 degree July day at BSD on a sat tnt but we all know that wouldn't happen

Ya, talk the talk and can't walk the walk. Corral-like mentality. You know why I run my car at Cecil, congratulations to you. I'm betting it took a four year degree to figure that one out Sherlock. Follow those directions down to Davies and run your chatter box down there.

I have a better idea. I'll strap it to the space shuttle and run it on the moon. Hell, the oxygen content is so minute it'll run the 1/4 in 78 seconds. JACK OFF.

[coralcoupe1993]

###########

[2001GTTT]

oooo this is getting fun....but like i said....its not even worth fighting over....makes perfect sense to me....a ten second car is still a ten second car if it has ran a ten atleast once in its lifetime, no matter where, so whats the big deal?

[cam303]

:yes:

[349Stroker]

Ya, talk the talk and can't walk the walk. Corral-like mentality. You know why I run my car at Cecil, congratulations to you. I'm betting it took a four year degree to figure that one out Sherlock. Follow those directions down to Davies and run your chatter box down there.

I have a better idea. I'll strap it to the space shuttle and run it on the moon. Hell, the oxygen content is so minute it'll run the 1/4 in 78 seconds. JACK OFF.



LOL. Just cause corral doesn't bow down to you like people do on here doesn't make it a bad site.


you and all of your ass kissers have a good time at cecil

[349Stroker]

1) Who's going to finish it for you?

2)I'm willing to give up my ticket so you can run a cecil and i can video the run and post it here.

3)Why don't you use that mouth and ask someone to finish your car?


I can finish my own car cause I guarantee I have forgotten more than you will ever learn

2)The day my car can't go fast I'll go to cecil and pat myself on the back

3) I actually made some real progress today so you got anything that needs the doors blowed of it lemme know

[349Stroker]

DAVIES FORD
728 MCKEAN AVE
CHARLEROI,PA 15022

Yahoo the directions, i'm there 8-5 monday-friday!



LOL good for you

[2001GTTT]

LOL. Just cause corral doesn't bow down to you like people do on here doesn't make it a bad site.


you and all of your ass kissers have a good time at cecil


i dont call it kissing ass i call it sticking up for a friend since ignorant people much like yourself decide to start shit....have a nice day asshole.

[349Stroker]

Why is everyone gettin all worked up.LOL


cause the car won't run the time anywhere else


EXACTLY


I had a nice day as a matter of fact

[349Stroker]

I have wasted enought time here and well made my point.

UNSUBSCRIBING


Have a nice day all

[2001GTTT]

Why is everyone gettin all worked up.LOL


cause the car won't run the time anywhere else


EXACTLY


I had a nice day as a matter of fact


whats wrong with you? why does the car have to run the same time anywhere else? So if a car runs a ten flat at prp, but it wont run a ten flat lets say, at a track in texas.....does that mean its not a ten second car? (not saying joes car wouldnt run a ten anywhere else, i want to know whats going on in your mind)

[blkp42e]

just whoring through. my car is broke

[Pure Stock]

I can finish my own car cause I guarantee I have forgotten more than you will ever learn

2)The day my car can't go fast I'll go to cecil and pat myself on the back

3) I actually made some real progress today so you got anything that needs the doors blowed of it lemme know

You ain't shit boy. Your credibility is ZERO. Go back to the corral and assemble 347+ cubic inches of worthless shit that runs a high 11 @ 10,000 feet below sea level. You couldn't blow the doors off of anything that comes out of our camp, period. And if you feel inclined, bring it out to Cecil.

[Pure Stock]

I have wasted enought time here and well made my point.

UNSUBSCRIBING


Have a nice day all

Ya Top Dog, you made a point, your an ignorant prick.

[Viper_ed]

Ummm, I have seen Joe's car run within .2 of his best pass at PRP. What's the big deal?

[2001GTTT]

Ummm, I have seen Joe's car run within .2 of his best pass at PRP. What's the big deal?


EXACTLY, i guess mouthin off these days means you got balls huh?

[blkp42e]

they were open???!?!?!?!
Ummm, I have seen Joe's car run within .2 of his best pass at PRP. What's the big deal?

[u1arunit]

Okay lets vote to keep it open or closed.

There is entirely too much dick strokin going on in here.

[wick]

Okay lets vote to keep it open or closed.

There is entirely too much dick strokin going on in here.

Nothing wrong with a bit of dis agreement. Keep it open...

[Silverhatch]

Okay lets vote to keep it open or closed.

There is entirely too much dick strokin going on in here.

Where's the poll?:pinkthumb:

[SV1000s]

Where's the poll?:pinkthumb:


X2....although you can keep it open now that the "stroker" has unsubscribed ;)

[u1arunit]

Looks like it's open, but boring now w/o the stroker. lol

[SV1000s]

Looks like it's open, but boring now w/o the stroker. lol


I miss the silly bastard already...lol

[fastfox91]

wow this has blow out of control

[Jivepepper]

LOUD NOISES!!!

[coralcoupe1993]

UNSUBSCRIBING


Have a nice day all

*****

[billyNOTnice]

You ain't shit boy. Your credibility is ZERO. Go back to the corral and assemble 347+ cubic inches of worthless shit that runs a high 11 @ 10,000 feet below sea level. You couldn't blow the doors off of anything that comes out of our camp, period. And if you feel inclined, bring it out to Cecil.

why don't you bring your hunting camp over to our area... i can promise you it'll be like deer season all day... lot of you out driving but when the day is gone all of ya'll be going home with no kills :kneel:

[gmkillr]

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/2468.jpg


http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136/gmkillr/baddudehijack.jpg

[Pure Stock]

why don't you bring your hunting camp over to our area... i can promise you it'll be like deer season all day... lot of you out driving but when the day is gone all of ya'll be going home with no kills :kneel:

Why don't you bring your street cars to the track where it's legitimate. Where it's not opinion who wins but fact. Timeslips don't lie.

[fastfox91]

ill bring my street car to beaversprings and put it next to your race car what do u want to put on it? u name a price and we will get it done. theres no need to gay with name calling or anything, just set a price and we can get it rolling, when do u want to do it? let me know. and i will try to make sure im off work.

[Sonic03snake]

Yea, well my dad can beat up all your dads!!!!:rolleyes: This thread is closed due to the high retard content. Talk is cheap(especially on the net) Get all your cars ready and hit the track, you will all feel better.:awsome: