twin screw guys... help guide me

[White5.0]

Lifting isn't really the best analogy though with cars, but it can still work; people get stronger by routine hard workouts, cars get broken when they get worked out too hard all the time. They're similar though because when you push the envelope on a car or dont let it warm up the way it should (and you're pushing your luck with an aggressive tune or something) you could blow your motor just the same as an olympian can pull a hamstring by not warming up well or by neglecting nutrition/stretching. Both can also have bad shit happen for no apparent reason.

thats not exactly how i was trying to compare them but that also works lol. i was thinking more like this: if your into lifting, especially competitively, (or any sport for that matter) there is always someone bigger, better, and stronger than you. And why do you work out? to get bigger better and stronger so you can be competitive at what you do.

same goes for cars for the people that are into them. you are constantly wanting your car/motor to be better, more powerful, more reliable,make better E.T's and trap speeds, be more fun, etc etc. than other people's cars/motors.

but anyways thats just my opinion, not trying to start a war here

[MBH]

that makes a whole helluva lot more sense than what I made of it the first time lol

[White5.0]

I don't want my comment to go wrong... i'm not saying i don't enjoy it... obviously i DO.... i just know that for myself, even though i absolutely love my car, there are times i wish i wouldnt have gone so big... its so powerful and so fast, that its tough to find a place to open it up and enjoy it... but then again, when you do open it up and enjoy it, you just wanna keep pushin it to the floor... :)

nothing wrong with that, i completely understand where you are comming from with that

[u1arunit]

It also worries me about the fact that you're not hooking in 2nd gear. How old are your BFG's? Maybe they're dried out? Thats not really a problem I want, but I guess its a good problem to have.

They are brand new. A friend of mine has a tire shop and we ordered them direct from BFG about a month or two ago. No dried out rubber here.

I have a pair of 26/11.50/17 ET Street drag tires as well. They are probably the only hope of totally hooking up that I would have but I only use them for racing and not street use.

BTW lack of traction gets old fast so it's never a good problem to have.

[no1sirbutler]

holy shit, relax.... i'm just saying, MBH sounds like he wants to just put a KB/whipple on without doing all that stuff.... no reason to give false hope of 700rwhp if its not possible without gobs of other work... but, he really didn't mention a power goal anyhow...


I don't want my comment to go wrong... i'm not saying i don't enjoy it... obviously i DO.... i just know that for myself, even though i absolutely love my car, there are times i wish i wouldnt have gone so big... its so powerful and so fast, that its tough to find a place to open it up and enjoy it... but then again, when you do open it up and enjoy it, you just wanna keep pushin it to the floor... :)

sorry if I came off mad Im not, I was just defending my statement. MBH obviously knows Rich(the car I speak of) so he should go for a ride w/ him and see and feel exactly what a twin screw is like on the street.

You're right, I don't have a power goal or an ET goal or a trap speed goal. Butt dyno and fun factor are the most important things to me.

The other drawback of putting the twin screw on is that I'm damn near 100% certain that I'm never going to put a cage in my car, and if I ran the car flat out it would need one for sure. Hell, if I ran it flat out now I'd need one too.

honestly man if you dont have a power goal or an ET goal, i would still do it b/c of the big ass smile you will have on your face every time you do decide to slam the skinny pedal. and I wouldnt worry about the traction issue. If you drive the way you say you do, then it will still drive and act just like your car does now. Or until you decide to press the pedal a little further. lol

[o4c0b|2a]

I'll tell you this, my KDW's are new, and they hook on the street in a 2nd gear roll. 600 hp is good enough, do some rear end, tranny mods. and run 10's all day long. Buying a used blower isn't always a bad idea, I found mine off of modular fords, and the guy I bought it off was real cool, he called me a few times after I bought it to see how it was going etc, and included extra parts for me. Just gotta find the right seller, altho I agree, its not always easy. Good luck on whatever you decide to do.

Thats impressive that a 2.2 head/cam work makes 700 at the wheels, especially on a 10.5:1 ratio. He sounds like to guy to go see Bo. That just almost sounds like too much power on the street haha, especially being close to instant power.

[S+@ng]

ahh ryan, you and your analogies...

[Stangman701]

BTW lack of traction gets old fast so it's never a good problem to have.

That is the main reason I haven't gone twin screw yet. When I'm running regular street tires I wish I had less power and when I got the MT's on I wish I had a little more. I'm kind of curious to see how the new 315 MT's hold up for the twin screw guys. As of now I've got full traction in 1st and it's awesome to be able to rip off some good WOT 1-2 shifts on the street. I think a 315 Mickey should be able to hold 600 in 1st, but if it can't then I don't really want to have that much power.

[o4c0b|2a]

Mine spin in first and grip and go in 2nd. 19#'s on a 2.2. Run newer BFG KDW's 295/35/18. it's not completely unbearable.

[MBH]

Mine spin in first and grip and go in 2nd. 19#'s on a 2.2. Run newer BFG KDW's 295/35/18. it's not completely unbearable.

Thats what I like to hear :)
You'll have to take me for a ride!

Ray, I hear ya brother. My car seems to put down the power pretty well now that it has the subframes on, it really cut down on the wheel hop. The only time it has trouble is when the tires are cold or the road is cold, and even then the RPM's just go up and hang a bit - almost like its clutch slip............. which wouldn't be so good - or out of the question for that matter. I do enjoy a good powershift though, and breaking traction wouldn't be too much fun. Funny thing is that my nittos are pretty much silent when they spin, but I spun the mickey's when they were cold form being parked the other day and they screamed.

I think I'm pretty much sold on the 'idea' of the twin screw. Reality could change that though. I'm probably going to upgrade the clutch first and see how much I have left over after that.

[KBCobra]

As most people are saying, I'd agree its a worthy investment (or non-investment so to speak lol). I went from pullied, to adding lower pulley, to port, then to n20, then to kenne bell 2.4. It just never ended up being enough. Def be prepared at any chance to replace a motor. I had 30k HARD miles on my motor before the kenne bell and damn well knew, my motor would be short lived with a KB on top. Sure enough after countless abuse, she hit the bricks. I will definitly say, get a professional on site tune done, don't cut corners. I ran a mail order tune with the KB for about a week till I was able to goto the dyno and get it tuned, what a WORLD of driveability and power difference with a custom tune. I got away running 19lbs on the street for a long time, but most people would advise don't go over 17-18 on pump gas.

I think if you find a decent used 2.2 or even grab a new 2.6, run 17 or so lbs and a good tune, your motor will be fine, especially considering the current miles and how much you drive it. I put a ton of miles on my car and abused it non-stop when I drove, I just beleive in only living once and if I'm gonna dish out payments for the car and money for mods, I'm gonna enjoy it!

[NateSVT]

Do it! You will love the twin screw. I wish I put one on mine sooner. I went from bone stock to pullied, then ported, then KB 2.2. The car is ridiculous with a twin screw. Huge difference from a ported Eaton. After I put the KB on traction was a huge problem when I was running the shitty Sumitomo 315s. They would spin in 3rd gear at around 100, which was kind of fun haha but it sucked if I was racing. This was in April though so it was still pretty cold out. I switched to 315-35-17 BFG G-Force KD's and they hooked great. They spin in first but hook fine in second unless its cold out.
If I was still on the stock motor I would probably run either a 2.2 or a 2.3 on 17-18lbs max for the street. I would probably get the Gen II Whipple because of the great numbers I've seen people put down with them. I have also never heard of anyone having quality issues or having to get one rebuilt. I would definitely miss the scream of the 2.2 tho.
But like Dan said, I would definitely get a good dyno tune. I wish I did haha

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