OBAMA (Global Poverty Act ) A gun ban

**map351** · 11-12-2008, 08:55 AM

The Bill is signed in the House if the Senate Inks it It's over.

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Comrade

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**Twin01cobra** · 11-12-2008, 06:07 PM

Them blue helmets make great targets

. This would cause a 2nd civil war in this country I beleive.

**SAC81** · 11-12-2008, 06:11 PM

Eh, little inaccurate in your post. I've been following this since Obama introduced it...last year I guess?

It's never been voted on- it did make it out of committee in the House and Senate, which means it WILL be voted on at some point.

Write your senators and reps and telll them to vote against it!

**Twin01cobra** · 11-12-2008, 06:23 PM

How about this one to.

Obama Transition Team Examines Congestion Tax... $0.01 for every mile you drive.

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/25/2594.asp

UK congestion charge consultants report Obama transition team interested in tolling.

British newspapers report that President-elect Barack Obama (D) may import congestion charging programs from the UK. Jack Opiola, a transportation principal for the firm Booz, Allen and Hamilton, was hired to design a program to tax drivers at least £5 (US $8) when entering the city of Manchester during peak hours. Opiola told the Manchester Evening News yesterday that the president-elect's transition team approached him for additional details on the plan.

"I was 'noticed' by key people in the Obama campaign and I have been providing input to his strategy team in Chicago, including information about Greater Manchester's bid," Opiola said.

If approved in a referendum later this month, drivers entering an 80 square mile section of Manchester would be subject to the charge. The program would generate £120 million (US $180 million) in annual profit. A similar program in London cost drivers £268 million (US $408 million) and failed to provide promised reductions in congestion, according to Transport for London data (view report).

Until now, Senator Obama has been circumspect when discussing his administration's transportation plans. Previously, his most specific proposal was the creation of a $60 billion toll road bank (view details). In March, Obama endorsed New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg's idea to charge a $9 toll on cars and a $22 toll for trucks that enter downtown Manhattan during working hours.

Hoping to fill the gap with specifics, the American Association of State Highway and Transportation Officials (AASHTO) last month submitted a detailed $544 billion transportation reauthorization proposal designed to encourage the new administration to shore up the domestic economy with heavy spending on infrastructure projects. The new programs would be paid for with massive new tax hikes, including a per-mile driving tax that would begin with "proof of concept" trials as early as 2010. The tax would initially be one cent per mile and generate $32.4 billion a year. An extra one cent per gallon in the federal gasoline tax would generate another $1.8 billion, and a national sales tax on cars of one percent would generate $7.6 billion.

"With this historic election, AASHTO is optimistic that the new administration can help to foster the political will necessary to bridge the gap between today's transportation needs and the transportation system we must build for tomorrow," the group said in a statement.

Source: Obama team study c-charge (Manchester Evening News (UK), 11/12/2008)

**map351** · 11-12-2008, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by SAC81

Eh, little inaccurate in your post. I've been following this since Obama introduced it...last year I guess?

It's never been voted on- it did make it out of committee in the House and Senate, which means it WILL be voted on at some point.

Write your senators and reps and telll them to vote against it!

The Dems ( house) have the votes to pass it, that was a test vote. If Senator Saxby Chambliss looses the vote recount (there mining for vote) the Dems could have a 60 vote majority and it will pass no one can stop them.

**map351** · 11-14-2008, 08:23 AM

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/illinois-state-rifle-association-executive/story.aspx?guid={BDDE40AA-F62E-40ED-8F10-BF93012A473E}&dist=hppr

"Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer."

**John4cam** · 11-14-2008, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by map351

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/illinois-state-rifle-association-executive/story.aspx?guid={BDDE40AA-F62E-40ED-8F10-BF93012A473E}&dist=hppr

"Obama voted for a bill that would ban nearly every hunting rifle, shotgun and target rifle owned by Illinois citizens. That same bill would authorize the state police to raid homes of gun owners to forcibly confiscate banned guns. Obama supported a bill that would shut down law-abiding firearm manufacturers including Springfield Armory, Armalite, Rock River Arms and Les Baer."

I could picture it, cops raiding my house to collect my hunting guns...I would be locked up for good or dead after that.

Go ahead and tell a good ol boy from pike county illinois he can no longer keep his 30.06 that has been passed down from his father after you knock on the door.....do it and all hell will break loose.

We should focus on the inner city weapons all those g-funk eras like to use to commit crimes, why the 4uck would you go after all the hunting weapons? That would be like putting a gas guzzlers tax on a honda civic. What a turd.

**Troll** · 11-14-2008, 05:55 PM

Where can I sign up to be the first martyr?

I told my trooper buddy if he comes to my house to take my guns, I'm going to shoot him. He said, "Dude, I would quit before they made me do that!"

**John4cam** · 11-14-2008, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Troll

Where can I sign up to be the first martyr?

I told my trooper buddy if he comes to my house to take my guns, I'm going to shoot him. He said, "Dude, I would quit before they made me do that!"

**Troll** · 11-14-2008, 06:05 PM

It won't be the current police force, though. It will be the so-called "citizen army" that he wants to put in place...

**Twin01cobra** · 11-14-2008, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Troll

Where can I sign up to be the first martyr?

I told my trooper buddy if he comes to my house to take my guns, I'm going to shoot him. He said, "Dude, I would quit before they made me do that!"

Go here, this is a brand new site to try and combat the inevidable, this has been linked to every gun website out there, they are all on board and this thing is going to be big. www.righttokeepandbeararms.com

This just started and no accounts have been activated yet, still working out the bugs.

**Troll** · 11-14-2008, 10:38 PM

Your account has been created.

here's a better link: http://www.righttokeepandbeararms.com/phpBB3/

**MBH** · 11-14-2008, 04:01 PM

somehow "I told you so" just doesn't solve anything. Hell, it doesn't even make you feel better

**u1arunit** · 11-14-2008, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by MBH

somehow "I told you so" just doesn't solve anything. Hell, it doesn't even make you feel better

Which is exactly why I am sick and tired of this shit.

I like how other forums strictly prohibit talk of politics. Oh if I were King on here the changes that I would make.

**Twin01cobra** · 11-14-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by u1arunit

Which is exactly why I am sick and tired of this shit.

I like how other forums strictly prohibit talk of politics. Oh if I were King on here the changes that I would make.

It's real simple, don't click it

**u1arunit** · 11-14-2008, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Twin01cobra

It's real simple, don't click it

Unfortunately as a mod i am supposed to log in regularly and read all the posts to make sure you guys are behaving.

**Twin01cobra** · 11-15-2008, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by u1arunit

Unfortunately as a mod i am supposed to log in regularly and read all the posts to make sure you guys are behaving.

Understandable

**SAC81** · 11-14-2008, 07:40 PM

Of course- that's his ultimate attack vector against the Second Amendment- the creation of his "civilian militia" (which isn't very civilian since it'll be controlled by the federal government). Remember, he's given a speech supporting the creation of this.

The liberal interpreation (meaning: butchering) of the Second Amendment is that it guarantees a "milita" the right to keep arms, not individuals- once this milita is created and arms...turn all yours in boys.

Edit: I'm basing this on what I've seen and heard from him up to this point- I'm hoping nothing like this happens and he ends up being the best president we've ever seen.

**John4cam** · 11-14-2008, 08:23 PM

I think I know why Obama is so affraid of guns. That may be his demise.

**map351** · 11-15-2008, 10:09 AM

Just wait till he stacks the supreme court! This will be nation wide!!
Remember the Joyce foundation...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-a...d-amendment/2/

On September 8, several news outlets began reporting that officials in New Orleans were confiscating firearms... not from looters, but from law-abiding citizens who legally owned firearms!

"No one will be able to be armed," said Deputy Chief Warren Riley. "We are going to take all the weapons."

http://www.gunowners.org/no02.htm