2003 Cobra on CL...

**scott5** · 11-26-2008, 01:43 AM

was it from a roll or dig? dig and roll are two major different things on a bike

**John4cam** · 11-26-2008, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by scott5

was it from a roll or dig? dig and roll are two major different things on a bike

Good point..

**ddmi-twin90gt** · 11-26-2008, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by scott5

was it from a roll or dig? dig and roll are two major different things on a bike

Originally Posted by John4cam

Good point..

+3

**somethingclever** · 11-26-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by stieny

Raped a 600? Doubtful, unless the rider wasn't too good or it wasn't a modern SS.

I beat an 06 gixxer 600 from a 40mph roll twice...and that was with a ported eaton car.

It's not that hard to believe. 600cc bikes with a 200lb rider will typically trap around 118-120....

Edit...I've also ran gates twice coming back from PRP and after he caught traction I was walked.

**ddmi-twin90gt** · 11-26-2008, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by somethingclever

It's not that hard to believe. 600cc bikes with a 200lb rider will typically trap around 118-120....

I do that in the 1/4 on a wheelie! and that's still slow for me.

I start my standups at that speed also

**turbo83coupe** · 11-26-2008, 10:01 AM

This car had better be gone by spring :D

**SonofaBish** · 11-26-2008, 10:06 AM

Everyone's argument has a little weight to it...

the thing is, 600's are capable of some rediculous times.... mid 10's are possible and the one professional put a R6 into the 9's with only a dropped suspension a couple years ago.... but, even great riders are going to have trouble yanking a 10 second pass out of a 600cc sportbike - not impossible, but its going to be very hard... even the smallest mistake and a powerful car is going to be able to hold its own...

When my car was a h/c car, i tracked down a 600. I can't even imagine the slaughter my car would put on a 600 in its current state.

But also, keep in mind that 600's are somewhat seen as a "starter bike," so very few 600cc riders are the great riders that would be needed to spank a high hp muscle car.... whether you like to hear it or not, give me that '06 gsxr-600 and ur ported eaton only car will not keep up - but that's besides the point ...

Let's talk about litrebikes - better bring some serious business if you wanna hang with these babies! Drag racing a sportbike is no fun anyways...

**scott5** · 11-26-2008, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by SonofaBish

Everyone's argument has a little weight to it...

the thing is, 600's are capable of some rediculous times.... mid 10's are possible and the one professional put a R6 into the 9's with only a dropped suspension a couple years ago.... but, even great riders are going to have trouble yanking a 10 second pass out of a 600cc sportbike - not impossible, but its going to be very hard... even the smallest mistake and a powerful car is going to be able to hold its own...

When my car was a h/c car, i tracked down a 600. I can't even imagine the slaughter my car would put on a 600 in its current state.

But also, keep in mind that 600's are somewhat seen as a "starter bike," so very few 600cc riders are the great riders that would be needed to spank a high hp muscle car.... whether you like to hear it or not, give me that '06 gsxr-600 and ur ported eaton only car will not keep up - but that's besides the point ...

Let's talk about litrebikes - better bring some serious business if you wanna hang with these babies! Drag racing a sportbike is no fun anyways...

x2

**stieny** · 11-26-2008, 12:53 PM

I agree that a start from a roll or a dig will affect the outcome.

I never said it was impossible to lose on a modern 600 SS but it wouldn't get raped if it did lose.

I rode my STOCK 600 SS to an 11.1 in hot weather with a terrible 60ft. 10's were very easily mine if I would have went in cooler weather. I don't even want to know what it would have ran if I would have strapped it down and tweeked the suspension.

My bike held its own also with liter bikes from a roll.

Sorry, if anyone thinks that a new 600 SS is a "starter bike", you're out of your mind. Unfortunately, the general public do look at 600's like that but people who believe that are so far from the truth. Its just ignorance.

And a KB cobra will not RAPE a modern 600 SS with equally good drive/rider.

Here: I know its only one example and people can argue both ways but it gets my point across. F4i VS KB cobra. And F4i's aren't even really a SS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICQu3Wb9vQk

**scott5** · 11-26-2008, 01:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC0qY...eature=related

lets not even get started on a kb vs a 1k bike

**scott5** · 11-26-2008, 01:23 PM

the power to weight ratio on a bike is more than light years away from a car..

show me a 3k lb car with 1500hp get 40 mpg and costs 13k

**ddmi-twin90gt** · 11-26-2008, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by SonofaBish

Drag racing a sportbike is no fun anyways...

**wickedsnake03** · 11-26-2008, 02:29 PM

I am sure that the rider of the bike has alot to do with many outcomes of many races. but i have to throw in my personal experiences on this one, being the owner of a +600hp kenne bell cobra it takes more then a 600cc bike to get around me. and i suck at the driving haha. nothing against 600cc bikes either, hell if i had the extra money i would like to have one. And on topic haha that is a really clean looking car, if i was still in the market i would be all over that

**John4cam** · 11-26-2008, 02:56 PM

This ones fun. Deff. lacking riding skills but still an impressive stang.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX3T-pnOqBk

**SonofaBish** · 11-26-2008, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by stieny

My bike held its own also with liter bikes from a roll.

pppppplease.... now you're sounding a little silly

a 600 wouldn't touch my 2000 TL1000R, let alone my new R1 ... and although the TL-R was able to hang alright with the litrebikes I rode with - now that I own a R1, i see that the TL-R wasn't even in the same universe as my R1 (those guys just didnt push their bikes as hard as i did) ... Frankly, no matter how modern, a 600cc bike is not keeping up with the modern Litrebikes, roll or dig...

i mean, if you're comparing a 2008 R6 to a 1998 GSXR1000, then ok, i agree, a 600 will keep up with a litrebike

**SonofaBish** · 11-26-2008, 03:06 PM

I did have a 1998 Gixxer 600 run with my TL-R once... but it had a turbo strapped to it, so it was understandable

**SonofaBish** · 11-26-2008, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by steiny

Sorry, if anyone thinks that a new 600 SS is a "starter bike", you're out of your mind. Unfortunately, the general public do look at 600's like that but people who believe that are so far from the truth. Its just ignorance.

I never said I felt this way, but that's the way people, in general, look at them.... i mean, i don't blame them entirely... until the new Kawi 250 came out with a decent new look last year, anything below the 600cc level was just a flat out UGLY bike - and you wanna be proud of what you're riding around on.... I don't even oppose starting out on a 750 or 1000cc bike (my first sportbike was my TL-R - but i rode my dad's cruiser for several years before this) - you just have to show a lot of maturity and restraint

**scott5** · 11-26-2008, 03:14 PM

well bish thats not totally correct..

When me and andy raced on the TLr against the gsxr600 i got him with about 3 bikes on a roll and only one from a dig.. but you know the kinda of rider he was. lol haha

**SonofaBish** · 11-26-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by scott5

well bish thats not totally correct..

When me and andy raced on the TLr against the gsxr600 i got him with about 3 bikes on a roll and only one from a dig.. but you know the kinda of rider he was. lol haha

exactly dude.... that was his first bike ever, and he only had for for what? 1 month? i'm sure its scary as hell to jump on a modern sportbike (especially that torquey thing) as your first bike ever!

personally, i found that bike to be harder to launch from a dig b/c of the torque curve

I'd have gladly come down a raced ur gixxer vs. that bike - sad to say it's no longer around :(
but if you magazine race, the newer 600's would keep up with it ... uh oh, better watch out

- the 'Toona gang might come and accuse me of such atrocities

**stieny** · 11-26-2008, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by SonofaBish

pppppplease.... now you're sounding a little silly

a 600 wouldn't touch my 2000 TL1000R, let alone my new R1 ... and although the TL-R was able to hang alright with the litrebikes I rode with - now that I own a R1, i see that the TL-R wasn't even in the same universe as my R1 (those guys just didnt push their bikes as hard as i did) ... Frankly, no matter how modern, a 600cc bike is not keeping up with the modern Litrebikes, roll or dig...

i mean, if you're comparing a 2008 R6 to a 1998 GSXR1000, then ok, i agree, a 600 will keep up with a litrebike

I never said I would keep up. Obviously I got beat but my point was that it ran good and I didn't get destroyed when I rode with my liter buddies.