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    LCA/UCA and Sub Frame connectors

    well im thinking of treating my self to some upper and lower control arms and sub frames. I want to know what are the best kind and why.

    My car is going to be the set up for street/strip. i Know i want weld sub frames I allready talked to mike about install. just want to know what is the best. should i get full or standard sub frames?
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    pm yellowstang03 on here. i forget the brand but he installed a set of lowers and went to the track and they were absolutely trashed....so whatever brand he got, i dont think you should get. lol.
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    haha anybody know anything about maxium motorsports stuff? I was think on getting all that stuff. power coated full lenght sub frames and not sure yet about lower control arms. im not sure if adjustable will be any good for me.

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    you can make those if you got welding skills... 2¢

    i have southside machine uppers and lowers. i like 'em, they do what they're supposed to plus i don't have the money to experiment...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97LaserRed View Post
    haha anybody know anything about maxium motorsports stuff?
    Absolutely the best quality all of the time. Pricey, and don't buy in to some of their BS (geometry stuff), but super quality all of the time.

    Check out CHE as well. Great people there that stand behind their products too. I have run their stuff on several cars over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 97LaserRed View Post
    well im thinking of treating my self to some upper and lower control arms and sub frames. I want to know what are the best kind and why.

    My car is going to be the set up for street/strip. i Know i want weld sub frames I allready talked to mike about install. just want to know what is the best. should i get full or standard sub frames?
    I install subs quite often, don't waste your time or money on anything but full length pieces. The steeda's fit the best and come with a rear mounting plate that gets welded in first and then the rear of the sub attaches to it...makes for a really nice setup

    There are many good upper and lowers out there, I have installed quite a few of CHE's pieces and they are sweet...here is a link for a nice street and strip combo...http://www.cheperformance.com/CartGenie/prod-182.htm
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    Read this first so that you have a truer understanding of exactly how our unparalleled 4 link setup works, and the inherent problems with its design. This link will make your search for control arms a much more informed one and you will understand why different arms use the bushings, lengths, and adjustability that they do.

    http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/t_suspension.htm

    As for subframe connectors, MM are good pieces, but I still have yet to see a set that compare to the global west units that I run on my car. They are full length, they tie-in a multiple places under the car, and you lose absolutely no ground clearance. They are the highest quality non-through-the-floor subframe connector I've found.

    I run 909-C and 922 on my car. I hope to be working on the car sometime this week and when I do I'll see if I can get a few pics of it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killercanary View Post
    Read this first so that you have a truer understanding of exactly how our unparalleled 4 link setup works, and the inherent problems with its design. This link will make your search for control arms a much more informed one and you will understand why different arms use the bushings, lengths, and adjustability that they do.

    http://www.miracerros.com/mustang/t_suspension.htm
    thats a good write up. so i should probally just go with lower conrol arms so i have some flex in the rear so the suspension does not bind up

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97LaserRed View Post
    thats a good write up. so i should probally just go with lower conrol arms so i have some flex in the rear so the suspension does not bind up
    No, you want uppers and lowers...just stay away from the spherical stuff and you will be fine
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack Speed View Post
    No, you want uppers and lowers...just stay away from the spherical stuff and you will be fine
    hahaha got cha! i think im going to go with all maxium motorsports stuff.

    what do you guys think of the adjustable lowers? waist of money???

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97LaserRed View Post
    hahaha got cha! i think im going to go with all maxium motorsports stuff.

    what do you guys think of the adjustable lowers? waist of money???
    Maximum makes great stuff and there subs fit just as nice as steeda, I may have to buy the rear plates seperately and make usre you do so. No need for adjustable lowers for you, just uppers. Thats why I sent you the che link, every bit as nice as maximum and they even have some pinion angle built in eliminating the need for an adjustable upper...thats all you need for a street/strip car like yours
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack Speed View Post
    Maximum makes great stuff and there subs fit just as nice as steeda, I may have to buy the rear plates seperately and make usre you do so. No need for adjustable lowers for you, just uppers. Thats why I sent you the che link, every bit as nice as maximum and they even have some pinion angle built in eliminating the need for an adjustable upper...thats all you need for a street/strip car like yours
    Hey mike could u pm me a price on the install of sub frames and control arms?

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    I can vouch for the CHE stuff. I have ahd it on my car for like 3 years now. Excellent pieces!! MM is excellent from what I hear as well! Both good choices IMO

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    As best I have been able to see, the full length subframes that LMM sells are identical to the Steeda parts (including the rear plate). Save you some money there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0660 View Post
    As best I have been able to see, the full length subframes that LMM sells are identical to the Steeda parts (including the rear plate). Save you some money there.
    I've installed plenty of LMM's, they aren't the same as the steeda's...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfpack Speed View Post
    I've installed plenty of LMM's, they aren't the same as the steeda's...

    Same here. Agreed.
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    Ok then ill prob go with steeda then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97LaserRed View Post
    Ok then ill prob go with steeda then.
    Don't rule out Global west. I bet if Mike or you saw them you'd pick these over others.
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