Steelers vs Ravens for the AFC championship

**CobraII** · 01-12-2009, 10:53 AM

That "can't beat a team 3 times in a year" is crap. I did want the Titans to win so the Steelers could go down there and stomp the crap out of them. But, it's nice to have another home game here. The Ravens are hurting, it will be more Pittsburgh weather... as long as Ben plays like he did yesterday, I don't see the Ravens having enough. GO STEELERS!!!

**John4cam** · 01-12-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by CobraII

That "can't beat a team 3 times in a year" is crap. I did want the Titans to win so the Steelers could go down there and stomp the crap out of them. But, it's nice to have another home game here. The Ravens are hurting, it will be more Pittsburgh weather... as long as Ben plays like he did yesterday, I don't see the Ravens having enough. GO STEELERS!!!

I think Baltimore can handle this weather as well. This is going to be a grinder for sure, I hope we can pull it off.

Ben looked good but if parker can run the ball the way he did yesterday we should be fine. We need to get in the grille of Flacco and make him look like rivers running around like an idiot making stupid decisions and bad throws. That Rookie's gonna choke, they always do.

**SonofaBish** · 01-12-2009, 11:36 AM

All Ben did was play up to his ability. We all saw yesterday what happens with the O-line actually blocks someone for once..... If they can keep Ben from getting crushed, he will do just as good again - however, if they let the defense have free shots at him like they have all season, then he won't play any better than he has all season....

I think the Steelers will be ok this upcoming week. Won't be an easy game, but I think we're going to Tampa

**blackfive-o** · 01-12-2009, 12:16 PM

We're lookin' good!

**Balaska347** · 01-12-2009, 01:28 PM

It is definitely going to be a violent game. I can't wait! Its all on the o-line, if they protect Ben and make holes for Parker therre sould be no problem.

**fastfox91** · 01-12-2009, 01:39 PM

steelers have a good oline but with the caliber of players that are in the nfl today they cant hold a defense off forever while a worthless qb sits in the pocket pump fakes 5-6 times and takes 15seconds to do a check down of his recievers ben is the most over rated over paid qb in the nfl right now. his fundamentals of the game are terrible. he has a name because of one year of coming in and they win a superbowl. the steelers gm and ceo like that he fills seats in the stadium leftwich is by far a better qb but he doesnt bring the fan base that a young white steeler qb does pittsburg and thats why ben is the start qb for them. sorry for the rant but i had to get that out there.

**White5.0** · 01-12-2009, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by fastfox91

steelers have a good oline but with the caliber of players that are in the nfl today they cant hold a defense off forever while a worthless qb sits in the pocket pump fakes 5-6 times and takes 15seconds to do a check down of his recievers ben is the most over rated over paid qb in the nfl right now. his fundamentals of the game are terrible. he has a name because of one year of coming in and they win a superbowl. the steelers gm and ceo like that he fills seats in the stadium leftwich is by far a better qb but he doesnt bring the fan base that a young white steeler qb does pittsburg and thats why ben is the start qb for them. sorry for the rant but i had to get that out there.

i agree with everything you just said

I also think Bruce needs to keep using a fullback like he did against the chargers for once...thats why we ran as good as we did

**laz2447** · 01-12-2009, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

It is definitely going to be a violent game. I can't wait! Its all on the o-line, if they protect Ben and make holes for Parker therre sould be no problem.

sounds simple enough! very accurate...

havent seen that kinda speed on the edge from Parker in quite some time, nice to see him get his legs back too...

i just wish they would get Ben some better & tall receivers...they tried with Limas Sweed, but this kid looks like a deer in headlights right out of the gates...and i like to hold judgement for at least 3 years...lol...hopefully he comes around...

either way, f' baltimore...

**laz2447** · 01-12-2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by fastfox91

steelers have a good oline but with the caliber of players that are in the nfl today they cant hold a defense off forever while a worthless qb sits in the pocket pump fakes 5-6 times and takes 15seconds to do a check down of his recievers ben is the most over rated over paid qb in the nfl right now. his fundamentals of the game are terrible. he has a name because of one year of coming in and they win a superbowl. the steelers gm and ceo like that he fills seats in the stadium leftwich is by far a better qb but he doesnt bring the fan base that a young white steeler qb does pittsburg and thats why ben is the start qb for them. sorry for the rant but i had to get that out there.

**John4cam** · 01-12-2009, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by fastfox91

steelers have a good oline but with the caliber of players that are in the nfl today they cant hold a defense off forever while a worthless qb sits in the pocket pump fakes 5-6 times and takes 15seconds to do a check down of his recievers ben is the most over rated over paid qb in the nfl right now. his fundamentals of the game are terrible. he has a name because of one year of coming in and they win a superbowl. the steelers gm and ceo like that he fills seats in the stadium leftwich is by far a better qb but he doesnt bring the fan base that a young white steeler qb does pittsburg and thats why ben is the start qb for them. sorry for the rant but i had to get that out there.

Put any other QB in for the steelers and watch them get demolished. Ben is elusive and hard to take down, Linebackers have made the comment that he is the hardest to get down in the league. I'm no Ben fan by any means, but stating that leftwich is a better QB is :loco:

**SoLow** · 01-12-2009, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by SonofaBish

All Ben did was play up to his ability. We all saw yesterday what happens with the O-line actually blocks someone for once..... If they can keep Ben from getting crushed, he will do just as good again - however, if they let the defense have free shots at him like they have all season, then he won't play any better than he has all season....

I think the Steelers will be ok this upcoming week. Won't be an easy game, but I think we're going to Tampa

x2

HERE WE GO STEELERS ! ! ! ! !

**White5.0** · 01-12-2009, 02:29 PM

everyone needs to get off of the big ben bandwagon just cause he won the superbowl... leftwich is a better decision maker period.

**fastfox91** · 01-12-2009, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by John4cam

Put any other QB in for the steelers and watch them get demolished. Ben is elusive and hard to take down, Linebackers have made the comment that he is the hardest to get down in the league. I'm no Ben fan by any means, but stating that leftwich is a better QB is :loco:

if thats the case that any qb would be demolished then why did leftwich have no problems throwing the ball when he was in the game a few weeks back. ben isnt elusive by any means his line slows the defenders down enough in the time that they get to him he can make small movements to get away. take a look at this this ball should of already been in the air or since he is to be said so elusive he should stepped up in the pocket and this sack would have never taken place. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcwXBMDk9p0

**laz2447** · 01-12-2009, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by White5.0

everyone needs to get off of the big ben bandwagon just cause he won the superbowl... leftwich is a better decision maker period.

its not a bandwagon, its proof in results...

byron leftwich lost his job to david garrard in jacksonville, byron leftwich lost his job to joey harrington in atlanta...i cant even grasp the fact that people think he is a better option than roethlisberger...

byron leftwich would be the 3rd qb in pittsburgh if charlie batch was healthy...and on top of that, if charlie batch was healty...byron leftwich would be out of football...thats why the steelers have dennis dixon as a 3rd option...so leftwich is lucky to have a job...period

**White5.0** · 01-12-2009, 04:13 PM

Alright here is your "proof in results" laz2447...

how about the Redskins game back in November???

Ben played the entire first half.
Leftwich played the entire second half.

Both had same O-line, same recievers and same running backs to work with and same defense to go against..

Big Ben: 5/17, 50 yards, 0 TD, 1 Interception
Leftwhich: 7/10, 129 yards, 1 TD, 0 Interceptions

100% Equal play, but much better results by Leftwich

**White5.0** · 01-12-2009, 04:18 PM

and no, Batch would never start in front of leftwich, batch is just terrible

BUT, if he didn't get hurt we wouldnt have even picked up Leftwich so it doesnt really matter

**Balaska347** · 01-12-2009, 04:56 PM

I'm not a big fan of Ben nor do I dislike Leftwich. I also agree with points that several of you made about either QB but I would rather have Ben then Leftwich 9 outta 10 times. Yeah Ben has bad games as does every QB but if Leftwich started 16 games I don't believe we would be where we are today. We definitely wouldn't have a better record. If Leftwich was that good he wouldn't have lost his job twice and be in the position he is in now. Call it the Big Ben bandwagon if you like but don't forget about the "I hate big ben because everyone else likes him" bandwagon.

**White5.0** · 01-12-2009, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

Call it the Big Ben bandwagon if you like but don't forget about the "I hate big ben because everyone else likes him" bandwagon.

Definitely not on that one....ive disliked Ben well before we got Leftwich. Don't get me wrong, i dont think he is terrible, i just think he panics too much in the pocket and makes some bad choices too often.

watch him next time the defense is rushing, he'll go ape sh*t. Now i wouldnt be opposed to that if he ran the ball like he used to...but he doesnt do that anymore and just takes a sack or throws a pick. Dont know why he stopped running it like he once did...

**Balaska347** · 01-12-2009, 05:10 PM

I agree he does look stupid running around and makes some bad decisions sometimes. His coaches are the ones that want him to stay in the pocket but he should throw it away if no one is open. I don't think Ben is the best QB in the league but if he wins games and takes us deep into the post season who cares how he does it.

**White5.0** · 01-12-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

I agree he does look stupid running around and makes some bad decisions sometimes. His coaches are the ones that want him to stay in the pocket but he should throw it away if no one is open. I don't think Ben is the best QB in the league but if he wins games and takes us deep into the post season who cares how he does it.

yeah i agree with that...i think a lot of it has to do with Bruce Arians, i dont like the direction he took our offense but i am glad he put a fullback in against the chargers...we need that....but i still wish we had Ken