What's up with the Pens?

[Twin01cobra]

I'm not one to bitch about calls much, but WTF was that last night? I'm sorry but when you can put the wings on pp after pp you can easily fix a game. I don't blame any penguin for losing their cool.

This is a game of momentum and when you try to beat the home team at the joe it's hard enough, then you have to battle the officials?? They were saying how this officiating crew let them play before but I don't know what happened to that!! Both teams were taking liberty's but only one was being penalized...Total BS.

Detroit needs it to go 7 games, they are a broke city and the revenue loss of it not going 7 is not good for them, they need all the revenue they can get. After watching that game last night I now beleive that some of these games are fixed, just my opinion.

[fork5o]

I'm not one to bitch about calls much, but WTF was that last night? I'm sorry but when you can put the wings on pp after pp you can easily fix a game. I don't blame any penguin for losing their cool.

This is a game of momentum and when you try to beat the home team at the joe it's hard enough, then you have to battle the officials?? They were saying how this officiating crew let them play before but I don't know what happened to that!! Both teams were taking liberty's but only one was being penalized...Total BS.

i could also see this. the nhl is tryin its hardest to come back from the lockout. it was funny cause i told my cousin before the game, "we'll see how the refs are tonight" and sure enough they screwed with the game. i felt like they were doing this in the caps series to make it go to a game 7. im not gonna say its fixed, but it very well could be, especially from a league that needs a game 7.

anyway, hopefully they let this one simmer the next 2 days and come out playing like mad men on tuesday.

GO PENS!!!

[SAC81]

I came to the same conclusion...that game HAD to be fixed. I've never seen such a lopsided example of officiating in ANY professional sport. I'm blown away that there hasn't really been a public outcry.

[map351]

Come on John the game wasn't fixed, the pens thought it was going to be a easy win after putting the wings away in the last 2 games!
The Wings woke up there Ain't no tomorrow if they loose..

The pens on the other hand didn't have the killer instinct and got a lesson in play off hockey.
The score should have been 10 Zip.

[frankstang]

I don't think the games are fixed. At least not by the knowledge of the players. Could the officials sway a game one way or the other ? Sure, but think of the consequences to the league if it was ever proven they colluded with officials to try to get the outcome they wanted. It would ruin the league. I think they would go under from lack of attendance. That's why I can't see them taking that chance just to get one or two more games played in the Cup series.

Some of you may not like or agree with what I'm going to say now, but I believe it strongly.
What Talbot did to Datsyuk undermines hockey as a credible sport. Knowing Datsyuk has a foot injury, Talbot slashed him on his foot. In my mind that is an intent to injure and should result in a fine and suspension. It's crap like that that keeps hockey as a distant 4th in major sports. In what other serious sport can you use a piece of equipment to try and injure another player and only end up with a 2 minute time out ?

Let a guy in baseball take a bat to someone and see if they aren't fined and suspended for a long time. How about stomping someone with a cleat in football ? Same thing.

IMO stuff like that undermines the sport. Makes it look bush league. I hope Mario has some words for Talbot, as he made the Pens organization look low class. There's a reason teams like Philly, who still adhere to the old goonery mentality, aren't seen in the finals too often.

[John4cam]

Come on John the game wasn't fixed, the pens thought it was going to be a easy win after putting the wings away in the last 2 games!
The Wings woke up there Ain't no tomorrow if they loose..

The pens on the other hand didn't have the killer instinct and got a lesson in play off hockey.
The score should have been 10 Zip.

I never really said the game was fixed, just the officials need new glasses or at least clean them?

The whole 10 to 0 is a little exageration considering Feds missed two open nets, on the same shift. Lol.

We failed to score on our pp early leading to an onslaught of det. pp's and charge of momentum. You really think any team in the NHL takes ANY game against the wings at home lightly?

[2001GTTT]

Sadness.....

one win in detroit is all I ask...

[biminiLX]

You guys are crazy if you blame the refs at all for yesterdays game.
The Pens fell apart after a decent start and took horrible calls and basically lacked composure.
The Wings getting Datsyuk back was huge and I knew it would make a big impact on Detroit's line-up, he's big to them having a balanced 4-line attack.
I stand by prediction that the home team wins every game :)
-J

[fork5o]

it is hard to believe its fixed but after a game like that, cmon. im not going to say our game didnt collapse, but it was hands down the worst officiated game ive seen in recent memory.

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[Twin01cobra]

You guys are crazy if you blame the refs at all for yesterdays game.
The Pens fell apart after a decent start and took horrible calls and basically lacked composure.
The Wings getting Datsyuk back was huge and I knew it would make a big impact on Detroit's line-up, he's big to them having a balanced 4-line attack.
I stand by prediction that the home team wins every game :)
-J

Not blaming the refs comletely but they sure did'nt call some obvious calls against the Wings but were quick to call them on the Pens.

[laz2447]

You guys are crazy if you blame the refs at all for yesterdays game.
The Pens fell apart after a decent start and took horrible calls and basically lacked composure.
The Wings getting Datsyuk back was huge and I knew it would make a big impact on Detroit's line-up, he's big to them having a balanced 4-line attack.
I stand by prediction that the home team wins every game :)
-J

Agreed! Except for the home team wins every game...lol...

[biminiLX]

Fair enough, I think it will be a Game 7 (because of a league fix :) ) and then you never know.
-J

[map351]

I never really said the game was fixed, just the officials need new glasses or at least clean them?

The whole 10 to 0 is a little exageration considering Feds missed two open nets, on the same shift. Lol.

We failed to score on our pp early leading to an onslaught of det. pp's and charge of momentum. You really think any team in the NHL takes ANY game against the wings at home lightly?

I meant the other John. (Twin01cobra)

Mike

[SAC81]

it is hard to believe its fixed but after a game like that, cmon. im not going to say our game didnt collapse, but it was hands down the worst officiated game ive seen in recent memory.

Great post- I totally agree.

[John4cam]

Not blaming the refs comletely but they sure did'nt call some obvious calls against the Wings but were quick to call them on the Pens.

Thats the way I saw it as well. I hate saying this kind of stuff but it was a little obvious to me and it seems quite a few others.

I meant the other John. (Twin01cobra)

Mike

Lol, I didn't realize that was his name as well, My fault.:)

[Minstang]

Seriously, the Pens are shit in Detroit. Games aren't fixed the Pens just F*ckin suck in Detroit. We need to get over it and bring that cup home, WTF!!??

[map351]

Seriously, the Pens are shit in Detroit. Games aren't fixed the Pens just F*ckin suck in Detroit. We need to get over it and bring that cup home, WTF!!??

The ice is the same everywhere little faster is some places boards have there little advantages, they just weren't on KILL to win on Sat..

[John4cam]

Huge difference in ice between the Joe and mellon man, The boards are another story all together, Lol.

[map351]

Huge difference in ice between the Joe and mellon man,

The difference is?

[John4cam]

The difference is?

The joe is much quicker than the mellon. Jesus, just look at the ice after the zamboni passes it before a game vs the mellon.