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    some transmission troubles....

    Im having a little problem with my tranny grinding while putting it in second gear. its a t-5 by the way

    heres the catch though: it only does this going uphill while shifting into second.

    EVERY other time i put it in second on a level surface or downhill, if i am upshifting, downshifting watever, it does NOT grind, and shifts nice and smooth. i havent tried putting it into other gears going uphill tho, only second. I've only driven it for probably a total of 1/2 mile since i got it running because of bad weather and not having it inspected or registered yet.

    i am using (i think, hard to remember) penzoil ATF and i think its non-synthetic. and when i filled it up, i took the top plug out and filled through the shifter hole till it started pouring out of the top plug then plugged it back up. i dont see it leaking anywhere so i dont think its losing tranny fluid.


    do i have enough fluid? should i switch to a better fluid? what is the deal here?
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    You need synchros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wick View Post
    You need synchros.
    wouldnt it do it on any surface then? uphill, downhill, level, etc??

    its just happening when going uphill (well, so far......i havent driven it much, just around the block a few times)
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    Different loads. Nope. Sometimes its smoothe on the flat.Easy shifting. Up hill there is more load and you scrub more speed between shifts. The fiber synchro material is worn down to almost nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wick View Post
    Different loads. Nope. Sometimes its smoothe on the flat.Easy shifting. Up hill there is more load and you scrub more speed between shifts. The fiber synchro material is worn down to almost nothing.
    well if that is the case then i am a bit pissed off because a member on here sold me the tranny who said it was flawless and had no grinding or any other problems what-so-ever.

    how expensive is it to fix a problem like this?
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    i dont know how much the synchros cost but the tear down and rebuild you can probably do yourself.
    when i had my CJ-7 i ripped 3rd out of my t-5 and my dad had it fixed in under a couple hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaa55 View Post
    i dont know how much the synchros cost but the tear down and rebuild you can probably do yourself.
    when i had my CJ-7 i ripped 3rd out of my t-5 and my dad had it fixed in under a couple hours
    yeah i dunno ive never done it before...maybe ill buy a junk one and rebuild it and learn on that one rather than taking the only one i have out of the car and having my car sit again .....maybe i can live with it for a while because for now i think its only second.

    it just pisses me off tho because of what i was told about the tranny before i bought it. i pm'ed the person i bought it off of to see what he has to say about it. so we will see what happens.


    will a better fluid maybe reduce this grind a little more? maybe switching to synthetic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by White5.0 View Post
    will a better fluid maybe reduce this grind a little more? maybe switching to synthetic?
    Syncros work on friction. It's grinding because the fiber is off the syncro and can't work as intended. Adding a "more slippery" fluid will make it worse.

    Talk with Rob (Wick) about fixing it ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0660 View Post
    Syncros work on friction. It's grinding because the fiber is off the syncro and can't work as intended. Adding a "more slippery" fluid will make it worse.

    Talk with Rob (Wick) about fixing it ;)
    ahh i see...Thanks for that info i have been speaking to wick about it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martin0660 View Post
    Syncros work on friction. It's grinding because the fiber is off the syncro and can't work as intended. Adding a "more slippery" fluid will make it worse.

    Talk with Rob (Wick) about fixing it ;)

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    hey keep me posted on this Noone better have rupped you off I hope this guy will make it right
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    Mine two grinds every once in a while goin into second. Maybe a half a dozon to a dozen er so times since i've been drivin the car from 00' to present. Now I got the Short Throw in it, I've done it two or three times, once real bad! I just thought my clutch wasn't engaged quick enough and I wasn't used to the ST yet.
    So I make sure I push the clutch the whole way to the floor before pullin it back. I was wanderin if it was my syncros too.
    Yeah, how much does this cost to get fix? Will u ruin your tranny if u keep runnin it like this?
    It never was like this all the time just, as soon as I forget about it or drive the car for a while it will just happen outta no where. And then, I'm like F***!!
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    Ryan, I can tell you that the person you bought it from is as stand up as they come. There's NO WAY he would ever try to rip anyone off.

    The suggestions that the clutch may be out of adjustment is very possible. I had a similar issue with my 03 Cobra when I changed the clutch in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper_ed View Post
    Ryan, I can tell you that the person you bought it from is as stand up as they come. There's NO WAY he would ever try to rip anyone off.

    The suggestions that the clutch may be out of adjustment is very possible. I had a similar issue with my 03 Cobra when I changed the clutch in it.
    yes Ed he is a good person...i have been pm'ing him and he is willing to help me out so its all good.

    what was the type of adjustable cable you told me i should get that one time? or maybe it was a firewall adjuster? cause ill probably buy an adjustable cable and quadrant or a firewall adjuster and quadrant and see where that gets me
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    Quote Originally Posted by White5.0 View Post
    what was the type of adjustable cable you told me i should get that one time? or maybe it was a firewall adjuster? cause ill probably buy an adjustable cable and quadrant or a firewall adjuster and quadrant and see where that gets me
    Just call Lou at Luarel Mountain and get a Steeda Adjustable cable and any clutch quadrant you want. They're all better than the stock plastic piece. Don't wast your money on a firewall adjuster. An adjustable cable is all you'll need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper_ed View Post
    Just call Lou at Luarel Mountain and get a Steeda Adjustable cable and any clutch quadrant you want. They're all better than the stock plastic piece. Don't wast your money on a firewall adjuster. An adjustable cable is all you'll need.
    i thought thats what you said...ill give it a try thanks!
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    i ended up putting a fire wall adj. on my adj. cable because it doesnt have enough thread to pull tight to the clutch fork. i believe its a steeda cable and quadrant
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaa55 View Post
    i ended up putting a fire wall adj. on my adj. cable because it doesnt have enough thread to pull tight to the clutch fork. i believe its a steeda cable and quadrant
    hmm thats odd....i just ordered a steeda adjustable cable and quadrant. ill see how it works out for me hopefully i wont have to buy a firewall adjuster too
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    Quote Originally Posted by White5.0 View Post
    hmm thats odd....i just ordered a steeda adjustable cable and quadrant. ill see how it works out for me hopefully i wont have to buy a firewall adjuster too
    i heard bad things about the adjustable cables but idk. im all about the firewall adjusters since you can adjust tension

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    Quote Originally Posted by 97LaserRed View Post
    i heard bad things about the adjustable cables but idk. im all about the firewall adjusters since you can adjust tension
    you can adjust with an adjustable cable too...thats why they are called adjustable ... lol
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