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    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    Can I get in on that??? Just kidding... I don't think it has it in it, and the tenth in the driver's seat wouldn't get me there either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraII View Post
    the tenth in the driver's seat wouldn't get me there either.
    LOL, I need to overcome that too. Still looking in other places before finally making the driver mod ;) The bad part about those goals..... we have to go play in the deep end of the pool to run those numbers :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraII View Post
    I figured there was some reasoning behind it. Your combos are always done up right. Remember, I'm a "me use carb" knuckledragger... I'm used to exhaust lift being pretty close, or extending duration a little, to improve scavenging. You, and a lot of guys on this site, deserve a lot of credit for what you sink your teeth into. Especially on your daily driver! I'm still mad at you for not giving up the keys on Saturday! :D
    Hey I atleast spun the tires for Scotty.



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    Will you be getting a dyno tune or just a bolt-on and go? Or how about a before and after dyno session?
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    oooooooooohhhh, shiney :D Can you cut the cam covers on those things to get to the adjusters or do you have to pull the VC's to adjust? there was 2 mph in my last cam with cam timing ;)
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    Ed, check your PM's!!! Especially if I forget to email you.
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    Well I'm gonna tear into this motor friday. I think I have everything, degree wheel, check springs, extra rocker, adjustable solid lifter, piston stop and more tools. My tool box is becoming to heavy to lug around. I was going to change timing chains and adjusters but it seems that stuff is still dealer only. That's with a modular motor being around since 1991

    Plus lots of beer to keep my sanity in check while degreeing two cams Should be interesting so by friday sometime I should have pics during this little surgery and video before and after. Oh ya bloody knuckles can't work on my car without those.
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    Good luck! Watch the fingers, I got severa lchewed up from my little project ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ares View Post
    I was going to change timing chains and adjusters but it seems that stuff is still dealer only.
    I thought I saw all that stuff in the Summit catalog?
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    Didn't get much done but a note: Summits Piston stop which threads into spark plug hole. Will NOT fit into a 2v head. The non threaded portion is to big to allow it to engage the threads. Wasted alot of time trying to figure this out and had to walk away before it got ugly. I'll grab a cheap spark plug tommorrow and gut it and tap it to fit the screw part of the Summit stop.

    Oh ya make sure to unhook clutch cable from firewall if you have any intentions of removing valve cover.
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    Ok finally done. Runs real good but I have a bad ticking as I overlooked bleeding the lifters down. So now I need to yank valve covers again and pull all the lifters. I have to admit ripping into a mod motor for first time sucked. Now having done it won't be so bad next time. Hell I had timing cover, water pump back on when I noticed I forgot to put stock timing wheel back on crank. Yah that's how my weekend went from the start

    The plugs and piston stop I made from the 104


    Was work in progress


    Both cams installed along with gears. just prior to putting chains and guides back on.
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    it looks good ED. You got me getting all excited to start racing again. Chuck is gonna be ready for the 11,s too. Opening day ought to be interesting.


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    Well I had some issues with the tapping noise and it could have gotten ugly. Lucky the intake valves must have only been just kissing the pistons as they didn't leave a mark that I could see. I had originally thought the specs on the cams looked odd. The driver side was to be installed at 112 centerline and passenger side at 110 centerline. I thought I had them degree'd in properly but it seems with these motors and lots of duration at 110 center line is a bad thing without knotched pistons. I had to tear it apart again and reset passenger side to 112.5* centerline to match driver side. Instant quiet when restarted. I let car idle for 15 minutes after resetting listening for any further ticking or tapping.

    Under 2grand it seems normal but once it gets up over 2grand it pulls very hard and seems to get better with higher rpms. Can tell it wants to run hard. I got it idling fairly well at 660rpms but may bump that up and eventully get it tuned. I may pull it apart again saterday and move both cams to 113 or 113.5

    Ya Mike I'm itching for April 4th too!
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    Glad you got it sorted out. I would still have those timing chains tied in a knot :D
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    whew...that sounds like a REALLY close one Ed....glad to hear you got it worked out.
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    I'm gonna have to get in touch with Comp Cams over these cam cards. Should be interesting so see what they say.

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    Nice, Ed!! Thanks for posting the pics, I like seeing the work in progress, and the OHC.

    Just curious, how did you check the pistons if you think they may have been hitting the intake valves?

    Do you need to do a leakdown to be certain you didn't bend them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobraII View Post
    Nice, Ed!! Thanks for posting the pics, I like seeing the work in progress, and the OHC.

    Just curious, how did you check the pistons if you think they may have been hitting the intake valves?

    Do you need to do a leakdown to be certain you didn't bend them?
    Used an inspection light and put pistons to bottom of bores. I'll do a leak down this weekend when I mess with it again. As of now it runs good. If I find a problem, then I'll deal with it. Another good reason to try and stimulate the economy
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    Cool. I was hoping you had a good view of the pistons. I'm thinking if it felt that good through the gears, you're probably ok, but better safe than sorry. I never got mine fired when I screwed up the timing chain on the bbo, but it doesn't take much of a hit when spinning it to bend the valves.
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