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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll View Post
    Sportbikes are not comfortable. Unless you're into hardcore corner carving or insane straight-line speeds, get a dual-sport bike as your first streetbike.

    The riding position is very comfortable. You can focus on your riding and EVERYONE ELSE. If you do go "off-roading" you'll have enough suspension to probably keep from damaging the bike too bad.

    Then, after you get all the idiosyncrasies of "street-riding" worked out in your head, move up/over to a sportbike.

    This is just my humble opinion, of course.

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    Supermoto bikes are AWESOME bikes but most people dont like them because they cant go 140mph and you cant hang out with the "cool" crowd but i love them and would love to trade my bikes for a wr450 supermoto bike. Another thing to look at are cruisers.. After riding many crotch rockets and having two of them already they are really not for long rides

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    DRZ400 supermoto is a very nice piece you can do some sprocket swaps. 450 big bore pipe it....very nice i built one up and rode one... also a honda shadow spirit 750 is a nice starter bike. or a Suzuki savage 650 one lunger. i know a few people who have rode those as first bikes for a couple years and they hold value. a nice lightweight cruiser is really the way to go for a starter bike. my first bike was a 1998 VN750 vulcan kawi. but i took my test on a honda rebel lol
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    I don't think sportbikes are uncomfortable at all - and i'm a pretty tall guy..... however, this is something you need to find out for yourself...

    Are you going to have anyone riding with you??? If so, that is the one time a sportbike is uncomfy... i love my R1, but its brutal on me when my g/f rides with me.... my TL1000R was much better for riding 2up...

    And i don't agree with the above that a 1000 is too much for a beginner... If you're irresponsible and stupid, any sportbike is too much! If you can control your urges and just get to know the bike, it won't be a big deal .... just don't twist your right wrist.
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    Sorry for whoreing your post but I am too looking for a streetbike but I am pretty short, is there anyway to lower a bike ?

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    250 ninja!!!FTW They are funny girl bikes,but they will get you onto a bike, you can beat the snot outta them with a top speed of maybe 80mph...and you can get them cheap as hell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chandlergt View Post
    Sorry for whoreing your post but I am too looking for a streetbike but I am pretty short, is there anyway to lower a bike ?

    TJ

    yea man, sport bikes you can get lowering links for. and you can get lowering kits for anything else. if you get one and need it lowered throw me a pm
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    I completely agree w/ bish and everything he's said. I've been riding myself for exactly 10 years. I grew up on dirtbikes but my first streetbike was a 93 zx7r. Great starter bike. But compared to my 05 r6, it's a DOG! The r6 is everything i'll ever need, i'll never be able to out-ride this bike. I did all the basic mods to my r6, front and rear sprockets, 420 conversion, pipe, filter, stacks etc etc... it's an animal for only a 600...

    Definitly take a course or atleast ride for a while with some guys who know what they're doing. I was always a straight line bike rider, until a few years back I did a charity ride w/ bish. Little did he know, he's the one that taught me to do the corners. You gain a WHOLE NEW respect for your bike when hitting the corners, quite possibly the most amazing thing on 2 wheels I've ever experienced!

    In any event, I think a 600 is all you need. If you found a great deal on a 750 or 1000 then go for it, but I'd shop around for 600's. Now is the time to buy. I also recommend yamaha, my r6 has been put through its paces and never given me a single ounce of trouble.
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    Ok, here I come to disagree with everyone.

    I would have to recommend to NOT start on a 600 let alone on a 1K. Bish is a good guy with a lot of good things to say but this one time I must respectfully disagree with him. (Disclaimer: this is directed towards newer supersports and not all 600's.)

    This is coming from someone who started small and moved my way up through the sportbike thing. I read a lot of articles on why to start small and I'm glad I did. Search around and you'll find some. There is just way to much bike in a 600 supersport to actually develop your riding abilities that you need to have before you start ripping around on a low, low 11 or even high 10 second street bike.

    I started on a Ninja 250 that I bought brand new. Now, I'm not saying you have to buy a 250 but something that is light and less powerful is so much less forgiving on the street. I could toss it around and if I did screw up or had poor judgement in a situation, which you will at some point, I wouldn't dump it. I learned to ride so much better and so much quicker when I was riding my 250 over my other friends that were riding around on newer supersports.

    Bish stated that most of sportbike riders are dumb and try way to much way to soon. This is actually true and I think it starts with the idea that a 600 supersport is a good starting point. People need to get out of the idea that a 600 is slow. They are not slow. I rode my 6R faster at the track then most ride their 1K's. My 600 would power wheelie in first all day long. It would embarrass almost every car on the road and could throw you off the back of it if you weren't careful.

    Not to mention that a lot of the smaller bikes are looking better and better. I would say look for something smaller or start on something less powerful. For example: SV650, GS500 and the 650R are all bigger bikes but are far less forgiving then a 600 supersport. Bikes hold their value well and you can always learn, sell it and move up. You'll be a much better rider in the end and you'll end up enjoying your 600, 750 or 1K supersport that much more.

    I would be happy to lend any other info or discuss this topic further if anyone would like. I am very passionate about riding.

    I will add this to Troll's comment about the comfort of sporkbikes: I rode them for years and I was fine UNTIL I went on a very long ride. Supersports ride rough and you aren't sitting in the best "cruising" position so longer rides will probably play havoc on your lower back. They did on mine. But I would give up the comfort of other bikes for another sportbike every time. I'm actually thinking of picking up a 1k when I graduate in the next few weeks.

    Either way, good luck and be safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stieny View Post
    Ok, here I come to disagree with everyone.

    I would have to recommend to NOT start on a 600 let alone on a 1K. Bish is a good guy with a lot of good things to say but this one time I must respectfully disagree with him. (Disclaimer: this is directed towards newer supersports and not all 600's.)

    This is coming from someone who started small and moved my way up through the sportbike thing. I read a lot of articles on why to start small and I'm glad I did. Search around and you'll find some. There is just way to much bike in a 600 supersport to actually develop your riding abilities that you need to have before you start ripping around on a low, low 11 or even high 10 second street bike.

    I started on a Ninja 250 that I bought brand new. Now, I'm not saying you have to buy a 250 but something that is light and less powerful is so much less forgiving on the street. I could toss it around and if I did screw up or had poor judgement in a situation, which you will at some point, I wouldn't dump it. I learned to ride so much better and so much quicker when I was riding my 250 over my other friends that were riding around on newer supersports.

    Bish stated that most of sportbike riders are dumb and try way to much way to soon. This is actually true and I think it starts with the idea that a 600 supersport is a good starting point. People need to get out of the idea that a 600 is slow. They are not slow. I rode my 6R faster at the track then most ride their 1K's.

    Not to mention that a lot of the smaller bikes are looking better and better. I would say look for something smaller or start on something less powerful. For example: SV650, GS500 and the 650R are both bigger bikes but are far less forgiving then a 600 supersport. Bikes hold their value well and you can always learn, sell it and move up. You'll be a much better rider in the end and you'll end up enjoying your 600, 750 or 1K supersport that much more.

    I would be happy to lend any other info or discuss this topic further if anyone would like. I am very passionate about riding.

    I will add this to Troll's comment about the comfort of sporkbikes. I rode them for years and I was fine UNTIL I went on a very long ride. Supersports ride rough and you aren't sitting in the best "cruising" position so longer rides will probably play havoc on your back. They did on mine. But I would give up the comfort of other bikes for another sportbikes every time. I'm actually thinking of biking up a 1k when I graduate in the next few weeks.

    Either way, good luck and be safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KBCobra View Post
    I completely agree w/ bish and everything he's said. I've been riding myself for exactly 10 years. I grew up on dirtbikes but my first streetbike was a 93 zx7r. Great starter bike. But compared to my 05 r6, it's a DOG! The r6 is everything i'll ever need, i'll never be able to out-ride this bike. I did all the basic mods to my r6, front and rear sprockets, 420 conversion, pipe, filter, stacks etc etc... it's an animal for only a 600...

    Definitly take a course or atleast ride for a while with some guys who know what they're doing. I was always a straight line bike rider, until a few years back I did a charity ride w/ bish. Little did he know, he's the one that taught me to do the corners. You gain a WHOLE NEW respect for your bike when hitting the corners, quite possibly the most amazing thing on 2 wheels I've ever experienced!

    In any event, I think a 600 is all you need. If you found a great deal on a 750 or 1000 then go for it, but I'd shop around for 600's. Now is the time to buy. I also recommend yamaha, my r6 has been put through its paces and never given me a single ounce of trouble.

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    my first bike was and still is a 06 gsxr 1000, and it wasnt stock when i got it, power commander, bmc filter, yoshi trc slip on, the works basically and its had all this since the day i bought it. im so glad i started were i did cause if i would of bought a 600 i would already be on the hunt for a new bike and i havent even owned for a year yet. im not the best rider in the world but i can ride, and there are some people on here that can back me on this, if u find a liter bike for the right price buy it and respect it and u will have no issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonofaBish View Post

    we gotta get out again man...
    Well you better include me too damn it!

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    AS for the cause, Take this course! You will learn a lot. You don't need a bike because, they have them so you can take the course. When your done, you get your license and 10% off insurance. http://www.pamsp.com/CourseInfo_Basic.aspx

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddmi-twin90gt View Post
    AS for the cause, Take this course! You will learn a lot. You don't need a bike because, they have them so you can take the course. When your done, you get your license and 10% off insurance. http://www.pamsp.com/CourseInfo_Basic.aspx
    Link above is a good course to take. It's free in PA and you get your license at the end if you pass. I took it. MSF FTW!
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    I agree with Stieny 1000%. Does this mean I have to quit coming here?

    I started on a VTR250 (always was a Honda man) and that shows my age, but oh well. Then, I moved onto a CBR600F2 (a dog by today's standards, but had 90-100HP). 2 seasons on that and I got a CBR900. I rode a few R1s in my day and those things are wicked scary. A so-called experienced rider could get really fuggered up on anything with 150RWHP and weighs 400 pounds soaking wet. I don't care who you are or what you say, literbikes are scary machines. This is not saying I might not own one again, but never never should a beginner start out on one.

    I started riding when I was 5 and worked my way up through the streetbikes as listed above and I wouldn't recommend a SS bike to anyone. Period.

    Hell, when my friends ask me about streetbikes at all, I tend to change the subject. I don't want anybody getting in over their head on my advice.

    If you're asking for affirmation from me, the answer is NO. If it's in your blood and you think you can handle it, by all means GO FOR IT.

    Good Luck and Be Safe no matter what you do, OP.
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    I will definitely take a safety course when i start to ride! As for comfort, i actually like the feel of my brothers 06cbr1000rr. I'm really looking for an R6 but if a CBR or GSXR pop up for the right price i won't hesitate to buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddmi-twin90gt View Post
    Well you better include me too damn it!
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