RUTHLESS KB Cobra

[MBH]

I think the original issue has been settled? The problems between you and mike are a whole different topic I want no part of, only you two know what went on there.

No problem Lou, I will respect your wishes and leave the issue alone on here, although I think that most of the issue has been aired out. We're all smart people on this forum, and we can all come to our own conclusions - they don't all have to be the same. If Mike wishes to continue, I cannot sit by idly if I do not believe he is right. I will say that.

Ah, ok, I remember you having low numbers with the car, thought it was when you got it.

No, car was very strong when I got it. I think the problem stemmed from a combination of the plugged cats as well as the fact that the car isn't driven regularly by any means (old gas) as well as having the bad habit of putting only $15 bucks of gas in the car at a time (might have mixed in some 87 and totally messed up the octane of the gas). I'm not insane, I'm not on a soapbox saying I did no wrong. I'm simply responding to the fact that Mike opened up the door to ask his customers. I was a customer, so IMO he asked me.

[MBH]

Its sad when you blame someone else for your cat clogging

It's sad when you suffer from a selective reading disorder, yet still manage to type up a response.

Read the whole thing. That's why I wrote it.

I'm saying that it's not an impossible situation by any means, and perhaps (as Mike suggested) I misunderstood the situation as he described it as me.

edit: oh, and just to clarify - the cat wasn't "clogged" it was broken loose and rattling around within the metal casing. I'm not sure how that would have happened in 1000 miles of normal driving, but who knows.

[Sonic03snake]

Everyone is welcome to their opinion here and you do conduct yourself well. No problems with you. What I have problems with is how Ryan (Ruthless) acted and insinuated things that don't seem to be true.

No problem Lou, I will respect your wishes and leave the issue alone on here, although I think that most of the issue has been aired out. We're all smart people on this forum, and we can all come to our own conclusions - they don't all have to be the same. If Mike wishes to continue, I cannot sit by idly if I do not believe he is right. I will say that.


No, car was very strong when I got it. I think the problem stemmed from a combination of the plugged cats as well as the fact that the car isn't driven regularly by any means (old gas) as well as having the bad habit of putting only $15 bucks of gas in the car at a time (might have mixed in some 87 and totally messed up the octane of the gas). I'm not insane, I'm not on a soapbox saying I did no wrong. I'm simply responding to the fact that Mike opened up the door to ask his customers. I was a customer, so IMO he asked me.

[03 OW SVT]

I'm sorry, but did someone say in an earlier post about getting blown.

[Sonic03snake]

I'm sorry, but did someone say in an earlier post about getting blown.

Wish it was me, :D

[Wolfpack Speed]

I had poor opinions of Tim because you fed me horror stories since the day we became friends. I also wasn't used to the manner in which he joked, so the first time I had ever met the guy in person I thought he was just being hard on somebody that had just got banned on here for being a honda nutrider. It was funny, but I felt bad for the guy so I thought Tim was just being a jerk.

I went to Tim because he was going to save me $1300, and he helped me try to diagnose the car over the phone when you wouldn't even give me the time of day. Call that blaming your shop if you must, but I'm telling you it boiled down to two things. A guy who was eager for my business, had more experience building motors, and willing to help me try to figure out the problem BEFORE I started throwing money at the car. I can't shake the feeling that you treated me like a blank check. It's not exactly a secret that I have some money to spend on stupid shit, but that doesn't mean I'm going to spend it stupidly. Make sense?


I am hung up on the valve guide thing because it's one of the factors that drove me nuts. Even Wick is coming in here and telling me that I melted the piston because I had a bad valve guide!

I do remember you walking me through why you thought it was a bad valve guide issue. I believed you! I thought it was ridiculous that a car with 13xxx miles could have THAT much valve guide wear, but what can I say. I had my wolfpack blinders on, and I wouldn't question your ability.

I don't think that the problem became so severe after 75 miles of no boost cruising that the car could have been so easily diagnosed that one of the shop helpers at Tims was able to diagnose it as soon as he looked into the scope. What's that say about you? (not good things) Whats that say about me? (I was blinded by loyalty to you).

You never ever ever ever ever ever EVER once admitted that you were wrong. So YES, you DID make it a HUGE SECRET that my car had a piston problem and not valve guide problems? How many of your customers and friends have you talked shit on me to, yet you never once made mention that you misdiagnosed my car with the wrong problem? or that your mistake would have been picked up on my tab at the tune of $3500 in brand new heads for my car because I had to order them before I would take up a bay in your shop.

That's why I think you are not an honest mechanic and THAT is why you will never ever touch anything of mine again.

Bo,

This is EXACTLY what you were doing to me before and is why I stopped communicating with you via email and pm's. Think what you want, say what you want. You had every opportunity to quit playing games and man up to deal with the situation. Instead you chose to turn your back on me, lie and twist the situation up as much as you could so that you could feel better about your troubles, now your doing it again. If you think I am losing sleep over not having to deal pampered tampons like you and Ryan, you are even more clueless then I originally had thought!

[MBH]

Everyone is welcome to their opinion here and you do conduct yourself well. No problems with you. What I have problems with is how Ryan (Ruthless) acted and insinuated things that don't seem to be true.

Ok that's a relief, I like you and have respect for you. That alone is one of the reasons that I left this drama off of the board, but as I've said - I just can't sit on my hands when Mike (or anyone) says something that is blatantly untrue. Especially if I'm involved in it with first hand experiences. I'd hate to see your opinions of me change because of something that's done and in the past. I'll keep it cool for a while. Sorry Lou.

[90TitaniumStang]

It's sad when you suffer from a selective reading disorder, yet still manage to type up a response.

Read the whole thing. That's why I wrote it.

I'm saying that it's not an impossible situation by any means, and perhaps (as Mike suggested) I misunderstood the situation as he described it as me.

edit: oh, and just to clarify - the cat wasn't "clogged" it was broken loose and rattling around within the metal casing. I'm not sure how that would have happened in 1000 miles of normal driving, but who knows.

BO,

YOU COULD OF HIT THE NEIGHBORS CATS AND RATTLE THE SHIT LOOSE IN THE CAT. OR MAYBE JUST MAYBE IT WAS BAD FROM THE MANUFACTURER. HMMMMMM SHIT HAPPENS. iF YOU'RE GONNA PLAY THIS GAME YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO EXCEPT THE FACT THAT SHIT BREAKS/HAPPENS.

i HAVE OVER 50 GRAND IN MY RACE CAR AND GUESS WHAT. I BREAK SHIT THAT ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BREAK.
BO I DONT KNOW YOU BUT IM SAYING IF YOU ARE GONNA MOD YOU ARE TAKING A CHANCE EVERYTIME YOU TAKE IT OUT.

[03 OW SVT]

Wish it was me, :D

Glad you understood that Lou. Are you stressed yet after all this BS?

[wick]

Keith, why? No need to bash him. I am just merely bringing up valid points that cause pistons to melt.

[MBH]

Bo,

This is EXACTLY what you were doing to me before and is why I stopped communicating with you via email and pm's. Think what you want, say what you want. You had every opportunity to quit playing games and man up to deal with the situation. Instead you chose to turn your back on me, lie and twist the situation up as much as you could so that you could feel better about your troubles, now your doing it again. If you think I am losing sleep over not having to deal pampered tampons like you and Ryan, you are even more clueless then I originally had thought!

So how about those valveguides Mike? That's all I've ever stayed mad at you about. I dealt with the situation by taking my business elsewhere more experienced and saving money in the process. In doing so, I found that you had either a) lied to me or b) been incapable of diagnosing a melted piston. Twist that however you want, but know that you're the only one that's calling people names. I'm providing details, you're just falling back into the same derogatory speech you always do when things don't go your way. I haven't said a single thing about how you were all about me being your customer and helping you promote your business.


Since this is a huge thread, I just want to say this one more time. I'm sure that I like and respect Lund more than he likes or respects me. I'm ok with that. If anybody was in my situation, with a cherry car that just got a bunch of work done and a new tune, and the motor was smoking and having hot start issues after it was done, they would call some people some names before they thought it through. I do not have any issues with Lund whatsoever. My problems are specifically with Mike.


Better luck next time, for you and the customer.

[biminiLX]

Damn, very good reading for my study break! :)

I've got to jump on Mike's nuts some here and say that after talking to him and seeing his shop and how he does things, he is one of the FEW places that I would trust to work on my car. Not something I'd say lightly. Hell, he's never done any work for me and I have a small Wolfpack stick on it! And I'm holding you to that free dyno pull Mike, I hope to beat Keith up there to hit 4-digits first. :)

Now, I didn't know anything at all about your problems Bo, but after reading some of this I have some conclusions.
First, you're a seemingly smart guy and give these long-winded answers, but the fact remains sh*t happens with performance cars, especially relatively highly modded ones like yours.
Mileage doesn't mean much, it all depends on how it was maintained and driven, and even then sh*t happens. I had piston rings go away on a mod motor with less than 8k. Guess which ones? Do you know which cylinders cool last on a mod motor? Guess #7 then #8 and you'd be right. Does your car have a cooling mod? Also, you have an '03 correct? They are known for having some head issues, including valve guides. Driving it with exhaust leaks in the mid-pipe or a clogged cat could easily lead to piston failure if not addressed and driven.

Anyway, I also don't know what was said between you and Mike and I don't really care, but your motor troubles do not seem to be his fault and it also appears like you're just looking for someone to blame.
We all come to our own conclusions, and mine may be biased, but that's what I'm seeing. Glad to hear you got things worked out though.

Ok, good show so far, carry on.
-J

[90TitaniumStang]

Edited soRRY wick, I JUST CAN'T STAND THIS BULLSHIT OF BASHING PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING YOURSELF

[biminiLX]

Damn, there were like 10 posts while I typed that and took a shit ;)
-J

[wick]

Thank you sir!! Much better.

Edited soRRY wick, I JUST CAN'T STAND THIS BULLSHIT OF BASHING PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING YOURSELF

[90TitaniumStang]

J- how bout we go up there one of these together see if we can have mike crank the resistance down on that dyno jet and inflate our numbers.

HELL WE WILL EVEN INVITE WICK

[MBH]

Damn, very good reading for my study break! :)

I've got to jump on Mike's nuts some here and say that after talking to him and seeing his shop and how he does things, he is one of the FEW places that I would trust to work on my car. Not something I'd say lightly. Hell, he's never done any work for me and I have a small Wolfpack stick on it! And I'm holding you to that free dyno pull Mike, I hope to beat Keith up there to hit 4-digits first. :)

Now, I didn't know anything at all about your problems Bo, but after reading some of this I have some conclusions.
First, you're a seemingly smart guy and give these long-winded answers, but the fact remains sh*t happens with performance cars, especially relatively highly modded ones like yours.
Mileage doesn't mean much, it all depends on how it was maintained and driven, and even then sh*t happens. I had piston rings go away on a mod motor with less than 8k. Guess which ones? Do you know which cylinders cool last on a mod motor? Guess #7 then #8 and you'd be right. Does your car have a cooling mod? Also, you have an '03 correct? They are known for having some head issues, including valve guides. Driving it with exhaust leaks in the mid-pipe or a clogged cat could easily lead to piston failure if not addressed and driven.

Anyway, I also don't know what was said between you and Mike and I don't really care, but your motor troubles do not seem to be his fault and it also appears like you're just looking for someone to blame.
We all come to our own conclusions, and mine may be biased, but that's what I'm seeing. Glad to hear you got things worked out though.

Ok, good show so far, carry on.
-J

I've had good experiences with Mike previously, however that didn't last as you might imagine. What happened with my car is a bit of a taboo subject on this forum I guess.

I know that things happen once you start modifying them, and I know it's buried in some long winded responses, but I've taken responsibility for what happened with my car. No matter how many precautions you take, accidents can happen. My car even had the head cooling mod, as well as any cooling upgrades you could think of.

What I will not stand for is that Mike has the audacity to trash talk me (has in the past after I "turned my back on him") and claim that every customer of his is a happy customer. I am not, for the multitude of reasons I have listed. Mike had never said a single thing about the fact that he diagnosed my car wrong in the first place, even though it was very easy to spot (like I said, one of the shop helpers at Tims was able to take a look and notice the abnormalities). This is where my biggest problem is, and it's the only one that will last.

Edited soRRY wick, I JUST CAN'T STAND THIS BULLSHIT OF BASHING PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING YOURSELF

Who says I don't know anything? I know what happened, and clearly that's more than you've been able to read.
I was even going to say "maybe the cat was bad from the manufacturer, just like Ryan's fuel pump" but then it occurred to me that if Mike had been working on the midpipe, he would have noticed if there was a problem when the cats started to jingle.

[Mater]

Bo,what kind of headers did u have installed?

By the way,i wish i was getting BLOWN also,Wick when u stopping down?

[biminiLX]

Keith--yes, dude, idea full of win! Big dyno numbers are all you and I want anyway right? :)
Seriously though, would be cool to get both cars there together.
Later, J

[wick]

I know. I also am still trying to piece together the 87 octane comment he just made. We all have a strong point of knowledge. His obviously isn't with mechanical workings. Its not his fault really. He is basically feeding what another guy told him as being true and deeply believes it so. I know zero about mod motors and don't want to. Neither does he. The subtle name calling i agree is childish and not needed.

Edited soRRY wick, I JUST CAN'T STAND THIS BULLSHIT OF BASHING PEOPLE WHO DO THIS FOR A LIVING WHEN YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING YOURSELF