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[Rio94gt]

Way to build that new convention center.

[coralcoupe1993]

Way to build that new convention center.

I know..... I went and checked it out on lunch the other day...it is bad! What if someone was walking up there at the time? Are the stadiums going to fall too?

[madmaxin22]

didnt that slab fall where there is usually tons of cars/ppl driving through when its an even?? could have been much worse if it didnt happen that day and they had the show

[Viper_ed]

Gotta love the theory of going with the "Low Bidder"!

[Twin01cobra]

Gotta love the theory of going with the "Low Bidder"!

I agree

[lib88stang]

Just proves they don't build them like they used too.

[Silverhatch]

Gotta love the theory of going with the "Low Bidder"!

Those jobs don't always go to the low bidder. The general has the option on going with whomever they want. If they feel that the bid is ridiculously low, they can throw it out. The bidding is to gauge approx price. Its not Bizzaro-ebay.
Also heard that the section that fell didn't have quite enough concrete to lintel overlap, that it was acceptable, but barely. Now that the concrete has shrunk up considerably because of the 3 weeks of < 25* it fell. It shouldn't have by any means, but maybe with a combo of "shrinkage" and heavy truck vibrating it, it shook loose. Thankfully noone hurt. Concrete will shrink alot when the cold persists. Look at a bridge deck joint in the winter and summer. Huge difference. Concrete can take sometimes over a year to fully cure.

[One Sweet Day]

Concrete will shrink alot when the cold persists. Look at a bridge deck joint in the winter and summer. Huge difference. Concrete can take sometimes over a year to fully cure.

interesting....didn't know that........

[Silverhatch]

Concrete will shrink alot when the cold persists.

Its like anything else...........:D

[wick]

Concrete can take sometimes over a year to fully cure.

Better keep going there bro. For an extreme example, the Hoover dam has not fully cured yet. Basic concrete takes roughly 7 years to fully cure. Driveways and sidewalks and such. Then it begins a deterioration process.

[Troll]

because of the 3 weeks of < 25*

ya think? it is Pittsburgh. I am by no means an engineer, but shouldn't you factor in the worst case scenario then multiply that by 2 or 3 just to be sure??? especially a public place where hundreds or thousands of peeps might be crushed???



I'm with Viper on this one. 99% of the time, the GC will use the low bidder, then go back and beat them up for some more money after the fact.

This is what is says at the bottom of PennDot's bid results every two weeks:

LOW BIDDER .................................................. .................................................. ....................$74,065,859.67
SECOND BIDDER............................................ .................................................. ....................$79,454,725.36
SAVINGS TO THE COMMONWEALTH THROUGH COMPETITIVE BIDDING.......$5,388,865.69

I can't help but think every time I see this that it's going to cost double the "savings" to fix the 4uck-ups that these low-ball gypsies are going to create. just my $.02. :D