Not bad--2011 V6 Mustang preview

[biminiLX]

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/11/30/2...-2009-preview/

Anyone wanna guess what the GT is getting?

-J

[AdamantiumSilvr]

Definately not bad for a stock V6 but the new 5.0's on the horizon!!

[Shorty429]

now that's impressive!

[yeahloh95]

wow i cant wait to see how the new v8 turns out

[412mustangz]

now that's impressive!

x2!! but i thought they would use the new taurus sho's 365hp twin turbo'd engine in the sport package, oh well better than the current power rating

[White5.0]

Anyone wanna guess what the GT is getting?

-J

the 'coyote' 5.0 v8

its already been confirmed for f150's so im guessing it will no doubt be in the mustangs, but obviously a more performance oriented version will be in the stangs.

im sure it will be revealed at the LA auto show next week

[97LaserRed]

If they used the sho tt motor it be too much competition on the v8. Sales for the v8 would drop fast

[jaa55]

the 3.7 and the SHO 3.5 are the same family of motor so surely these should make outrageous power with some boost too. numbers sound pretty impressive N/A!

[412mustangz]

If they used the sho tt motor it be too much competition on the v8. Sales for the v8 would drop fast

ya thats true

[phillysrt4]

I don't see why they cant offer the tt 3.5 and the coyote v8 at the same time and put them both at similar price points. There are people who always crave that v8 sound and there are people who like their motors force-fed.

Didn't Ford offer the 2.3t at the same time they offered a v8 in the 80's?

[White5.0]

Didn't Ford offer the 2.3t at the same time they offered a v8 in the 80's?

you could get a 2.3 turbo in a turbo GT until 1984 being the last year for them or you could get a 2.3 turbo in an SVO from 84-86 or in 84 gt350 models. at that time the v8's were crappy in the mustangs until 86 when they went to fuel injected instead of carb and got especially better in 87 with the e7te heads.

I think SVO's and turbo GT's cost a few thousand more than the v8's at the time and i think thats a big reason why they stopped making them for 87-93 - it cost too much and the v8s were getting way better so they didnt really need a 2.3 turbo (even though i think it would've been sweet if they made 2.3t's in 87-93)



I think they should put the ecoboost SHO engine in the stang. but if they dont, you can always swap it yourself

[badf250]

The Ecoboost may be a good idea, but I would never be in the market for a non V8 stang myself, no matter how fast it is. Thet ecoboost may be a great engine, but it doesnt sound or feel like a V8.

[AdamantiumSilvr]

Very true, I've been alwayz thinkin the same thing, Stangs should of never had the option of bein anything but a V8. I know alot of u V6ers r gonna hate me for this!

And of course all u guyz n gals on SCS got some really bada$$ lookin V6 Stangs for sure thou! But my honest opinion on V6 Stangs r that they totally ruined the Mustang image!!

Especially my years and there doin it to the newer ones now. They basicly just played'em out! I was always like, look a Stang oh wait another V6, WTF ya know what i mean!? Everybody from a young shool girl, to momz to a grandma, to people who don't want high insurance or just people that flat out ain't got the money for the V8. Alot of people gettin them and not takin care of them usin them as winter beaters.

At the time of purchasin my car off my uncle in 03' I couldn't pass the great deal he was givin me on it from graduated with a Degree, I really was thinkin ummm I might not want it thou. Cause there was like 3+ silver V6 pieces drivin around my area. One totally ripped off my GT image w/ duel exhausts and my same rims n another one got lowerd just like mine too. And awwe did I ever get so PO'd, lol!!

I actually acquired a passion for hating the fact that V6s actually existed!!! But joinin SCS made me appreciate the fact that, they're really not that bad, if they r tastefully done. Just my honest opinion, no hard feelings, please!!

The Ecoboost may be a good idea, but I would never be in the market for a non V8 stang myself, no matter how fast it is. Thet ecoboost may be a great engine, but it doesnt sound or feel like a V8.

[SAC81]

Wow, a 305 HP base model Mustang? Holy crap! That is awesome.

[412mustangz]

Very true, I've been alwayz thinkin the same thing, Stangs should of never had the option of bein anything but a V8. I know alot of u V6ers r gonna hate me for this!

And of course all u guyz n gals on SCS got some really bada$$ lookin V6 Stangs for sure thou! But my honest opinion on V6 Stangs r that they totally ruined the Mustang image!!

Especially my years and there doin it to the newer ones now. They basicly just played'em out! I was always like, look a Stang oh wait another V6, WTF ya know what i mean!? Everybody from a young shool girl, to momz to a grandma, to people who don't want high insurance or just people that flat out ain't got the money for the V8. Alot of people gettin them and not takin care of them usin them as winter beaters.

At the time of purchasin my car off my uncle in 03' I couldn't pass the great deal he was givin me on it from graduated with a Degree, I really was thinkin ummm I might not want it thou. Cause there was like 3+ silver V6 pieces drivin around my area. One totally ripped off my GT image w/ duel exhausts and my same rims n another one got lowerd just like mine too. And awwe did I ever get so PO'd, lol!!

I actually acquired a passion for hating the fact that V6s actually existed!!! But joinin SCS made me appreciate the fact that, they're really not that bad, if they r tastefully done. Just my honest opinion, no hard feelings, please!!

i hear ya but the ONLY reason i got a v6 is bc im a full time student workin a part time job makin minum wage so i couldnt afford a v8..as a matter of fact when i had my 6'r camaro i told myself over n over i would not buy anything but a v8 after drivin that car, until i got the insurance estimate, at the time i was 18..but in the mean time i'm happy wit my car, it looks nicer than most v8's IMO

[White5.0]

Very true, I've been alwayz thinkin the same thing, Stangs should of never had the option of bein anything but a V8. I know alot of u V6ers r gonna hate me for this!

And of course all u guyz n gals on SCS got some really bada$$ lookin V6 Stangs for sure thou! But my honest opinion on V6 Stangs r that they totally ruined the Mustang image!!

Especially my years and there doin it to the newer ones now. They basicly just played'em out! I was always like, look a Stang oh wait another V6, WTF ya know what i mean!? Everybody from a young shool girl, to momz to a grandma, to people who don't want high insurance or just people that flat out ain't got the money for the V8. Alot of people gettin them and not takin care of them usin them as winter beaters.

At the time of purchasin my car off my uncle in 03' I couldn't pass the great deal he was givin me on it from graduated with a Degree, I really was thinkin ummm I might not want it thou. Cause there was like 3+ silver V6 pieces drivin around my area. One totally ripped off my GT image w/ duel exhausts and my same rims n another one got lowerd just like mine too. And awwe did I ever get so PO'd, lol!!

I actually acquired a passion for hating the fact that V6s actually existed!!! But joinin SCS made me appreciate the fact that, they're really not that bad, if they r tastefully done. Just my honest opinion, no hard feelings, please!!

I see where you're coming from, but your missing the point of the v6 model...it really was never intended to be performance-oriented (but this new one with 305 hp seems like it will perform pretty well)...

they have a 'base model' mustang (v6) to SELL cars... thats why the mustang has been made since 1964 and never took a break like the camaros and challangers and chargers... the base model sells SO well because it can work for so many different types of people, whereas the camaros etc. were really just for people that were 'into cars'.


that, and the fact that the entire idea of the mustang ever since its introduction was to be a car that 'you make yourself' that has a ton of options...in the 60s there were times when you could get 4 or 5 different engine types in a mustang as opposed to the 2 offered now.


hate it or love it, the V6 is the reason the mustang is still being made today

[GOT SVT]

Subject: 2011 FORD MUSTANG V-6 GOES HIGH-TECH: NEW 305-HP ENGINE, SIX-SPEED TRANSMISSION EXPECTED TO DELIVER 30 MPG HIGHWAY
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Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 9:26 AM




DEARBORN -- The 2011 Ford Mustang puts 305 high-performance horses in the hands of V-6 coupe buyers with a new all-aluminum dual-overhead cam (DOHC) engine that delivers a projected 30 mpg on the highway with a six-speed automatic transmission and fun for drivers on nearly every road.
For 2011, Mustang’s new 3.7-liter Duratec 24-valve V-6 uses advanced engineering to deliver its power and economy: Twin Independent Variable Camshaft Timing (Ti-VCT) adjusts the valvetrain in microseconds. Aluminum construction means light weight. It’s an engine designed to crank out torque down low, rev to 7,000 rpm and deliver the mechanical music sports coupe lovers crave everywhere in between.
“Mustang is completely transformed with this new engine,” said Derrick Kuzak, group vice president, Global Product Development. “Everything people love about the car is still there and now under the hood is a V-6 engine that uses premium technology to deliver the power, the feel, the fuel efficiency, even the sound of the best sports coupes in the world.”
New 3.7-Liter V-6 Engine
With Ti-VCT operating its four valves per cylinder, the new Mustang V-6 powerplant sends significantly more horsepower and torque (305 hp and 280 ft.-lb.) to the rear wheels than its predecessor – despite its smaller displacement. The behind-the-wheel feel is unlike any Mustang ever produced.
“This new V-6 engine really speaks to what Mustang is all about,” said Barb Samardzich, Ford vice president of global powertrain engineering. “It produces power everywhere in the rev range and loves to be pushed hard. The Duratec 3.7-liter builds on our promise to use advanced technology to deliver both power and fuel economy.”
The high output is due largely to Ti-VCT which allows variable control of valve operation across the rev range. The variable cams operate on a Direct Acting Mechanical Bucket (DAMB) valvetrain using polished buckets to reduce friction. The end result is as much as a 3 percent improvement in fuel economy and a 10 percent improvement in power output versus traditional engines without these advanced features.
Ti-VCT is complemented by special-tuned composite upper and lower intake manifolds for efficient air delivery and lighter weight. Ignition power is delivered by a high-energy coil-on-plug design, while piston-cooling jets and a lightweight die-cast aluminum cylinder block improve the durability and efficiency of the 3.7-liter V-6 design.
Performance was the mantra for every aspect of engine design. A cold air induction system and dual exhaust give the 3.7 its free-breathing style with a 7,000 rpm redline and near-instantaneous response to throttle inputs.
A die-cast aluminum deep-sump oil pan provides 10,000-mile oil change intervals, saving drivers money on maintenance and resulting in less waste in oil disposal.
Engineers also worked to ensure aggressive, high-performance sounds come from the new engine, from intake to exhaust. Not only does the retuned air intake system minimize losses, it also provides the driver with a satisfying intake rush on hard acceleration. The all-new dual exhaust system is mellow at idle but opens up with a howl at full-tilt, letting Mustang drivers know they’re behind the wheel of a world-class sports coupe.
“This car marks a new type of Mustang,” said David Pericak, Mustang chief nameplate engineer. “We’re using a high-performance quad-cam V-6 with all the bells and whistles in a car that’s become legendary for its handling and roadholding; it’s really going to get a lot of new sports coupe fans excited about Mustang, some for the first time ever.”
Powertrain Improvements
Drivers can get the most out of the new V-6 engine’s output using either an all-new six-speed manual gearbox or a six-speed automatic transmission. Both come with the flexibility and fuel economy benefits of six forward ratios regardless of whether buyers want to shift for themselves or not.
Drivers who prefer a manual gearbox will enjoy the short throws and direct feel of the shifter along with the relaxed cruising permitted by the extra top gear ratio. Customers choosing the automatic will be pleasantly surprised to find the advanced six-speed 6R60 transmission does not sacrifice fuel economy – or performance – for convenience, delivering an expected 30 mpg highway with crisp, quick shifts that maximize torque and horsepower.
The automatic transmission also features a grade-assist or “hill mode” to improve drivability on hilly terrain. This technical innovation uses vehicle input – acceleration, pedal position, vehicle speed and brake status – to automatically determine the correct gear ratio while on an incline or decline. Hill mode eliminates sixth gear, extends lower gear operation on uphill climbs, and provides additional grade or engine braking for coast downs.
The standard 2.73 rear axle provides an ideal blend of cruising fuel economy and acceleration, aided by the wide ratio spread permitted through the use of six forward speeds in the gearboxes. Performance enthusiasts can select an available 3.31 rear axle ratio for better off-the-line launch characteristics.
Fuel Economy Improvements
Extra horsepower and refined engine operation will be the most noticeable features to new 2011 Mustang 3.7-liter V-6 buyers while projected class-leading fuel economy, also a standard feature, offers an additional bonus. The numbers speak for themselves:
• 19 mpg city/30 highway with six-speed automatic transmission, up from 16 mpg city/
24 highway on the 2010 model with automatic – a 25 percent improvement over 2010
• 18 mpg city/29 highway with six-speed manual transmission, up from 18 mpg city/26 highway on the 2010 model with manual
Refinements throughout Mustang’s body, powertrain and chassis design contribute to the improved fuel economy numbers. Examples include:
• The new Electric Power Assist Steering (EPAS) system which eliminates the drag of an engine-operated hydraulic power steering pump
• Six-speed transmissions that allow lower cruising revs without sacrificing off-the-line performance
• Aerodynamic improvements such as a new front fascia, tire spats on the rear wheels, modified underbody shields, a taller air dam and an added rear decklid seal
Handling and Driving Dynamics
With so much additional horsepower standard, the 2011 Mustang received enhancements to its chassis to maintain the outstanding balance and driving behavior Mustang owners expect. Damper tuning and spring rates were revised to provide a smooth highway ride while a new rear lower control arm and stiffened stabilizer bar bushings improve stiffness and handling for better cornering response.
While Mustang’s aerodynamic improvements were designed mainly to improve fuel economy, engineers also adjusted the vehicle’s front/rear lift balance. The result is a car that tracks more securely and feels more “planted” to the road surface at higher speeds, helping to keep the tires in better contact with the pavement.
The addition of EPAS marks a new era in driving dynamics for Mustang owners. Steering effort at parking lot speeds is reduced, while high-speed and highway feel is improved for more precise steering and handling. Because the belt-driven power steering pump is eliminated, EPAS provides a quieter vehicle with fewer components drawing engine power.
EPAS also enables new technologies that adjust for minor driving annoyances. Pull-Drift Compensation adjusts the steering to correct for crosswinds and minor road crowning, while Active Nibble Control helps eliminate the “shimmy” felt at high speeds when a wheel is out of balance or a brake rotor is warped. Both conditions are alleviated by EPAS independent of driver input, helping ensure Mustang delivers a smooth, comfortable driving experience in all conditions.
Mustang buyers choosing the new V-6 will also get a standard limited-slip differential that provides better handling and more sure-footed grip in poor weather conditions by directing engine torque to the rear wheel with the most traction. When the time comes to slow things down, the 2011 Mustang is also equipped with larger four-wheel ABS disc brakes, with 11.5 inch front and 11.8 inch rear rotors.
Refinements Complement Advanced Features
To reinforce the sporty nature of the 2011 Mustang, all V-6 models will come standard with new instrument cluster graphics, including a speedometer that reads up to 160 mph and a tachometer that reads to 8,000 rpm, reflecting the free-revving style of the new engine.
Additional lightweight soundproofing measures help filter unpleasant, high-frequency noises while tuned intake and dual exhaust add the sounds Mustang buyers relish.
Occupants also benefit from new door seals and a rear wheel arch liner that reduce road noise for a quieter, more enjoyable drive, all with minimal weight gain compared to the 2010 model.

[GOT SVT]

Enthusiasts who want a premium performance-oriented Mustang V-6 can opt for the new Performance Package, which will be available August 2010. Designed for driving enthusiasts, the Mustang V-6 Performance Package comprises:
• A 3.31 rear axle ratio for quicker off-the-line acceleration
• Firmer Mustang GT suspension
• 19-inch wheels
• Summer performance tires for improved grip
• A strut tower brace for increased chassis rigidity
• Unique electronic stability control calibration with sport mode for performance driving
For 2011, Mustang also ups the ante on technology and convenience features, including a standard driver’s message center in the instrument cluster and integrated blind-spot mirrors in the side-view mirror housings.
Ford’s MyKey™ system, designed to encourage safer teen driving and safety belt use, also is newly available on Mustang. MyKey allows owners to program the vehicle key using the driver’s message center to incorporate features such as limited top vehicle speed and audio volume, a traction control system that cannot be deactivated, a persistent Belt-Minder® safety belt reminder and various speed alert chimes.
Top Safety Marks Expected
Mustang’s technological advances are also incorporated in the structure of the vehicle to improve safety. The 2010 Mustang coupe earned the U.S. government’s top five-star crash-test rating, a designation the 2011 model is expected to achieve.
The Mustang’s considerable body stiffness contributes to the coupe and convertible’s driving performance and has a parallel benefit in accident protection. While the coupe’s body structure is approximately 31 percent stiffer than the previous Mustang platform, the convertible’s is more than twice as stiff – creating a structure that helps protect the cabin from deformation and intrusion in an impact.
Mustang also uses high-strength steel in its body structure and ultra-high-strength steel in the door intrusion beams for additional side-impact protection.
The front structure’s crush zones are computer-designed to absorb energy in a controlled manner and help dissipate it before it can reach the passenger compartment. Ford engineers have run thousands of design iterations of the Mustang’s front rails to arrive at an octagonal shape that helps spread crash forces evenly to aid in protecting occupants.
State-of-the-art technology adds to the convenience and safety of the 2011 Mustang, from the availability of the latest version of Ford SYNC®, with applications such as Traffic, Directions and Information, 911 Assist™ and Vehicle Health Report, to standard AdvanceTrac® Electronic Stability Control, which complements the all-speed traction control and standard Anti-lock Braking System (ABS).
Additional standard safety equipment includes the Personal Safety System™ which features dual-stage driver and front passenger air bags, safety belt pretensioners and Belt-Minder.
The 2011 Mustang will be built at the Auto Alliance International Plant in Flat Rock, Mich. The new 3.7-liter V-6 will be built at Ford’s recently retooled Cleveland Engine Plant No. 1.



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[phillysrt4]

absolutely stunning for a "base model" car. I cant wait to see one in person.

[sutyak]

I'm genuinely impressed for the first time by an n/a V6 Mustang.
No offense to any V6 owners. :)