The story of the problems between Timmy and me.

[Sonic03snake]

There has been alot of things going on behind the scenes for along time and cotrary to popular belief, my dislike for Timmy has nothing to do with Mike @ Wolfpack. Hell, I even hauled Mike down there for some exaust work before he opened his shop. I knew Timmy years before the site was around and always got along with him fine.

Fast forward to November of 2006 when Tim and I came to an agreement for him to advertise here.


Conversation VIA PM below on 9-22-06.


Ill give you a call tomorrow,
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Hey Tim,

I think I have everything ready to go. The prices are as follows.

1 year pd in full will be 400.00
6 months pd in full will be 250.00

You will recieve your own forum section and your banner displayed at the top of the site. Im only going to let in a select few vendors at this time. Let me know if your still interested.

i am totally interested... Yes, when do you need the cash?



Next conversation sent on 11-9-06

Re: Advertising
I actually have to go to Sullivan Ford in UT. I could swing by if you have the cash. Quote:
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Cool. I can get it from Whitey if need be. Quote:
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Hi Timmy,

We are now set up for banners, are you still interested in putting one up? Let me know asap and when you can make payment if your still interested.

Thanks,
Lou.

Yes, i am still interseted, I will pay whenever you want the money, and i will try and get you a pic of my banner. I can't figure out how to send with a PM, so i will either post it in a thread??? or E-mail it to you...



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Everything was good for about a year, we signed on Domination and First Bass and no problems. Then Wolfpack and Predator followed by Street Lethal. Next thing I start hearing from multiple people that Timmy is calling ne a no good cheat and a liar because I promised he would be the only vendor here and now there are a bunch. The 1st few times I heard it I just figured it was BS because the people who told me have a history for causing problems. After a good half dozen people tell me this I decide to PM him to see what is up.


Conversation below

Re: Hey
I never would have promised you that you would be the sole vendor, I gave up doing side jobs when you came on board because I felt it wasn't right. I can assure you I was making more that 400.00 a year bolting on a few parts in the garage so why would I shoot myself in the foot? Im not sure where you got the impression but I assure you I never intended to lead you to think that. I only asked you about Domination because I thought you and him had friction in the past and didn't want the drama to cary on over here. Wolfpack Mike is a friend but pays just like the rest. I just don't appreciate you making me out to be a liar, and especialy not coming to me 1st if you had an issue.

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I keep getting people telling me you said I promised you that you would be the only vendor on here, I just forwarded you the original PM from when we talked 1st. Im not sure where the words got twisted?

I did tell a couple people that because i remember when we first talked right after the sight came back, i asked you if you had ever thought about any sight sponcers and you said you were gonna ask me anyways, and i asked to be the premier shop of the sight(meaning the only one), and i was under the impression that i was, and that is why you asked me if domination could come aboard and i had no problems with it because he did mostly chassis work, and the whole time he was here he and his crew tryed to run me and my work down all the time and i never said a word. Then came First bass, and i thought it was funny you didn't ask about them but i figured they did totally differnt stuff than me, and then came wolfpack, and i thought to myself, well, this is Lou's buddy and he is trying to give it a go so thats cool, i can respect what he is doing, then came street lethal, now predator...And a couple of people have asked me about the tension on the boards and i just tell them that its good for buis to have shops competeing for their buisiness.... But yes i have told a few people that because when i first got on the sight i was so excited that i was gonna be the exclusive shop i told people that only to not be, but i just keep trucking trying not to cause waves. So, yes it is a little frustrating at times but i have always came to you when i have a problem and really this isnt that big of a problem to me...

[Sonic03snake]

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Im not really mad, just wish you would have asked me if you had thought we had an agreement. Telling everyone but me just felt like a kick in the nuts. Quote:
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Lou, i appoligize if i have made you mad, and got the wrong idea about the site vendor stuff...
I will never mention it again...


Next one

Re: Hey
I think I remember you telling me all this but Premiere means first, not exclusive. In this case you were the first shop. Sorry to bring this back up but its been playing in my head all day. I think this is where the misunderstanding took place.

Premiere

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The word premiere (or première, from the French première, "first") generally means "a first performance". This can refer to plays, films (movies) and so on. Premieres for theatrical, musical and other cultural presentations can become extravagant affairs, attracting large numbers of socialites and much media attention. Standard trappings may include a parade along a red carpet. At a festive film premiere the main actors involved in the performance may attend.
"Worldwide" premieres (or "world" premieres) mark the first showing of the performance ever; regional or national premieres may signal the first performance/screening in a given country. A film may screen at a film festival before its general release to movie theaters.



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I keep getting people telling me you said I promised you that you would be the only vendor on here, I just forwarded you the original PM from when we talked 1st. Im not sure where the words got twisted?

I did tell a couple people that because i remember when we first talked right after the sight came back, i asked you if you had ever thought about any sight sponcers and you said you were gonna ask me anyways, and i asked to be the premier shop of the sight(meaning the only one), and i was under the impression that i was, and that is why you asked me if domination could come aboard and i had no problems with it because he did mostly chassis work, and the whole time he was here he and his crew tryed to run me and my work down all the time and i never said a word. Then came First bass, and i thought it was funny you didn't ask about them but i figured they did totally differnt stuff than me, and then came wolfpack, and i thought to myself, well, this is Lou's buddy and he is trying to give it a go so thats cool, i can respect what he is doing, then came street lethal, now predator...And a couple of people have asked me about the tension on the boards and i just tell them that its good for buis to have shops competeing for their buisiness.... But yes i have told a few people that because when i first got on the sight i was so excited that i was gonna be the exclusive shop i told people that only to not be, but i just keep trucking trying not to cause waves. So, yes it is a little frustrating at times but i have always came to you when i have a problem and really this isnt that big of a problem to me...




Re: Hey
No problem man, I just want to be fair and it bothered me to that you thought I mis led you. Its all good.[quote=Rodeheaver's] Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonic03snake
I think I remember you telling me all this but Premiere means first, not exclusive. In this case you were the first shop. Sorry to bring this back up but its been playing in my head all day. I think this is where the misunderstanding took place.


you see.. i though i was gonna be the only one here.. but i didnt want to cause waves.. my dumbarss thought premiere ment one and only.... sorry to cause any waves, thats just what i didnt want to happen..




Next the problems start between him and wolfpack


I take it this was a PM between Jive & Wolfpack? Quote:
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Jive,

Sorry to hear about the troubles you are having with your car. If there is anything I can do for you, give me a ring at the shop. Sometimes a fresh set of hands and eyes is all you need...

Just wanted to throw that out there, good luck either way!

Mike



whats up with this Lou, this isnt the first time this has been brought to my attention..... It may seem harmless but i am telling you these guys want to roll me under the bus!!!!!


Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
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Jive,

Sorry to hear about the troubles you are having with your car. If there is anything I can do for you, give me a ring at the shop. Sometimes a fresh set of hands and eyes is all you need...

Just wanted to throw that out there, good luck either way!

Mike



whats up with this Lou, this isnt the first time this has been brought to my attention..... It may seem harmless but i am telling you these guys want to roll me under the bus!!!!!

Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
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Jive,

Sorry to hear about the troubles you are having with your car. If there is anything I can do for you, give me a ring at the shop. Sometimes a fresh set of hands and eyes is all you need...

Just wanted to throw that out there, good luck either way!

Mike



whats up with this Lou, this isnt the first time this has been brought to my attention..... It may seem harmless but i am telling you these guys want to roll me under the bus!!!!!

Re: Car
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i dont have the whole conversation, and at this point i a trying to put it out of my mind..


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i dont have the whole conversation, and at this point i a trying to put it out of my mind..

From what you sent me, it looks like Jiove is trying to stir the pot? I don't know why yours and mikes customers do this stuff?

Well, Jive told me that Mike contacted him....


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For your red car? I have a nice used original for sale for 125.00 or we have new ones for 179.00. Quote:
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i dont have the whole conversation, and at this point i a trying to put it out of my mind..

From what you sent me, it looks like Jiove is trying to stir the pot? I don't know why yours and mikes customers do this stuff?

Well, Jive told me that Mike contacted him....

Hard to say without the whole deal.

i didnt really get thewhole story so i am gonna put it behind me...thanks Lou.. and could you give me a ballpark price on a new dash for my car the stock one is falling apart..

[Sonic03snake]

My next issue with him on 10 / 2008

Re: Vendor status
Im not going to argue with you, you always have an excuse and I see right through the bullshit. Your always trying to start shit with your posts, you have talked shit on me for along time and im done with it! Your not the ace in the hole you put yourself out to be, just a sloppy wrench. Yes Mike did bitch and I don't blame him, you have no respect and posting that thread was just bullshit! I expect a little common courtesy around here and posting the same sale right on top of his is just a mindless, jealous display of your true colors. Im not putting up with your bullshit anymore and you can keep your banner up until the 1st of Dec and then your done. It will be alot more peacefull around here!!! Quote:
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Hi Tim,

It was nice and quiet around here for a while but now the drama is back and its going to stop one way or another!! Everytime something is going on your involved. You keep preaching your work is the best around but to be honest with you I personally have had 2 cars here at my house you did work on and they both have alot to be desired as far as quality goes. Im sure you saw the thread with the convertible I have for sale. You know whos car that was and who did the work! He was your #1 supporter on here and you didn't even take the care to make sure the rear bar was welded to the floor, that is poor quality workmanship along with everything else done on the car. You built the motor for Dan in the 03 cobra and didn't put a gasket between the lower intake and the blower, you said someone else didit but the same orange gasket sealer was used on everything else too. Ive also talked to 2 other people who were not happy with your work either, you need to quit worring about what wolfpack is doing and start practicing the quality you keep preaching! Im removing your vortech sale due to the fact you posted it right on top of mikes Vortech thread, at least try to be creative and sell something else and not cause friction. You need to grow up and quit playing the games, it just makes you look desperate and stuping infront of alot of people. You are almost up for another year of advertizing and ill be honest with you, if things don't change you can go elsewhere to advertize.

1st, i did not finish that cage because his new summit fuel cell started leaking fuel all over the place half way through the cage and he was supposed to get a new cell and never got it done so he was in no hurry to get it replaced and i was in no hurry to tell him what to do.
2nd, if you think i put the silicone under dans intake, then why dont you call Dan and ask him!!! I pulled that blower off of that car in the middle of the parking lot where he worked to check for a possible pinched O2 wire and reinstalled in that night in the parking lot with the GASKET!!! he was right there and was helping me!! Just ask him.
3rd, I am not going to comment on the Vortech thread, he is not the only vortech dealer in the area, i guess he must have been crying to you about it..
4th I am not sure if i plan on advertising on this site anymore, the negativity has driven quite a few people to not even post anymore, i have people at my shop all the time who say they never post on here, they just read, and i try to tell them that its not so bad, that there are only a few guys that are ball busters and to not worry about them, I tell them that the mods have them under control...




Re: Vendor status
Tim,

You can think what ever you want but you would be far better off improving your skills (People & Mechanic) rather than blaming other people. Your right, I don't care for you because you have no respect for me. You bitched behind my back about me promising you to be the only vendor when it was in fact your lack of vocabulary that made the whole misunderstanding. You thought when you asked to be the premeire vendor is the meant only vendor when in fact premeire means the 1st, but I was the bad guy! You never mentioned anything to me at any time about you feeling I did you wrong, you just bitched behind my back until I confronted you about it. I don't do work on anyones car but my own at my house anymore, the cobra was there because I bought the blower for my car and did the swap as part of the payment. That car was a mess and never made good numbers so Cam got disgusted and dumped it. Your right, I don't send anyone to you anymore. Why would I support you when you don't even have the courtesy to talk to me when you have a problem with me or something on this board? BTW, im sending this to 5 other guys you sent the 1st PM to? One of them already sent it back to me! Grow up dude!!!!


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Im not going to argue with you, you always have an excuse and I see right through the bullshit. Your always trying to start shit with your posts, you have talked shit on me for along time and im done with it! Your not the ace in the hole you put yourself out to be, just a sloppy wrench. Yes Mike did bitch and I don't blame him, you have no respect and posting that thread was just bullshit! I expect a little common courtesy around here and posting the same sale right on top of his is just a mindless, jealous display of your true colors. Im not putting up with your bullshit anymore and you can keep your banner up until the 1st of Dec and then your done. It will be alot more peacefull around here!!!

Look.... I am not arguing, but i dont make excuses, i make happy customers, plain and simple, i wish i knew who those 2 other guys are because the are probaly in your imagination, when i say something it is how i see it, i may see things different than you BUT, the way i see it is there are a few people that dont like me on this site and YOU are one of them... You say you try to stop working at your home to give me more buisness??? what a joke, you say you send people to my shop? another lie, the thing you dont seem to see is that i do way more work here than you think and you may hear a few winny punks that didnt like some tiny detail about something, that they never mentioned to me in the first place, how does that make me the bad guy, i try VERY VERY hard to make eveyone as happy as possible and this is the thanks i get from people, so tell those other 2 or 3 or 10 people you say dont like the work i did for them to come see me and i will give them there money back!!! The other thing you dont seem to understand is i am young (not an excuse) and am still learning, i started this place when i was 24 years old!!! I had never seen an 03 cobra in person till Dan brought his to me, and it turned out GREAT!!! just ask him, he is Totally pleased to this day with the work i did, and the other thing is i am supporting a family of 3 soon to be 4, and if someone threatens my family by trying to hurt my buisiness becuase they are jealous or dont like me, then we are gonna have BIG problems... It doesnt bother me at all that i am gonna not be a site vendor, it just bothers me that becuase of you and a few others i am less of a respectible shop than i was before i got on this site!!! So go ahead and let those people who are not happy with the work i did for them know that there money is waiting!!



Re: Vendor status
Tim,

You can think what ever you want but you would be far better off improving your skills (People & Mechanic) rather than blaming other people. Your right, I don't care for you because you have no respect for me. You bitched behind my back about me promising you to be the only vendor when it was in fact your lack of vocabulary that made the whole misunderstanding. You thought when you asked to be the premeire vendor is the meant only vendor when in fact premeire means the 1st, but I was the bad guy! You never mentioned anything to me at any time about you feeling I did you wrong, you just bitched behind my back until I confronted you about it. I don't do work on anyones car but my own at my house anymore, the cobra was there because I bought the blower for my car and did the swap as part of the payment. That car was a mess and never made good numbers so Cam got disgusted and dumped it. Your right, I don't send anyone to you anymore. Why would I support you when you don't even have the courtesy to talk to me when you have a problem with me or something on this board? BTW, im sending this to 5 other guys you sent the 1st PM to? One of them already sent it back to me! Grow up dude!!!!

[Sonic03snake]

His good Christian response.



What ever tough guy. [quote=Rodeheaver's]
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Originally Posted by Sonic03snake
Tim,

You can think what ever you want but you would be far better off improving your skills (People & Mechanic) rather than blaming other people. Your right, I don't care for you because you have no respect for me. You bitched behind my back about me promising you to be the only vendor when it was in fact your lack of vocabulary that made the whole misunderstanding. You thought when you asked to be the premeire vendor is the meant only vendor when in fact premeire means the 1st, but I was the bad guy! You never mentioned anything to me at any time about you feeling I did you wrong, you just bitched behind my back until I confronted you about it. I don't do work on anyones car but my own at my house anymore, the cobra was there because I bought the blower for my car and did the swap as part of the payment. That car was a mess and never made good numbers so Cam got disgusted and dumped it. Your right, I don't send anyone to you anymore. Why would I support you when you don't even have the courtesy to talk to me when you have a problem with me or something on this board? BTW, im sending this to 5 other guys you sent the 1st PM to? One of them already sent it back to me! Grow up dude!!!!

your a LIER, you sit and read my pm box, this is how you and your little homo crew do things, i heard that Frank jsut got fired for stealing, when is your turn, i dont forget thing either, like when you sold my dad that stuff and took the control arms off that he bouthgt that were spposed to be built by a guru, and you gave him some junk bbk crap, and guess what he tore em all up and his chassis is hurt becuase of YOU taking the good control arms and giving him junk, and Frank taking the full bottle of NOS from the kit he bought from Rick and giving my dad a beat up old empty bottle, but you prob dont remember that, people like you try to forget things like that and act like it was a good deal you did with this or that person, let me tell you one last thing, i am sick of getting kicked around by yinz, so you better pick and choose your words and actions wisely, because i am gonna make an EXAMPLE of one of yinz!!! count on it!!



My response

Re: Vendor status
Ok, im off work now and can reply to this part. Your right, Frank was fired for stealing but what does that have to do with me? I have never taken anything from my job with out permission. Your just reaching and coming up with empty hands with that one.

As far as the control arms off the green car, I sold your dad a set of new Ground Pounder double adjustable uppers and he knew they were not the original ones that were on the car. I had already used the uppers on my car. Over the years I sold alot of those Ground Pounder arms and had no complaints so I had no problem selling them to your dad. Once again, your bitching about something and probably told many people I ripped him off but you or him never called or mentioned it to me till now. If he thinks I ripped him off or owe him something please let me know, id be glad to meet up with you and him to make things right. You really need to quit thinking in the mindset that everyone is out to bone you, you should atleast communicate your thoughts before making these kind of accusations. I take my reputation seriously and feel like you haven't been fair with me to this point.

I know you probably think im siding against you because Mike is a friend but it doesn't work that way, I already told him to tone things down and there has been no problems on his end. You flipped out in the Flashlightdrag thread for no reason, you posted the Vortech sale right on top of his, and your reply in the 04 valvetrain noise thread are all things that were uncalled for. I realize Mike doesn't care for you and you don't like him but you need to control your emotions on here, im tired of being in the middle as a referee. Its just not fair to me and it draws negativity towards the both of you.

As far as his transactions with Frank, I couldn't tell you his story as I don't even remember him selling an N2O kit. We are not related or share the same brain so im sorry I can't speak for him.

Feel free to give me a call on my cell if you and your dad would like to meet up and straighten this control arm thing out. Im just not sure how you guys feel I boned you, no one even knows what the ones on the green car were. The only reason I didn't want to sell them is because I already installed them and had the suspension set up and if you remember I had to cut the threaded part down to get the pinion angle right with my POS south side bars. Your dads car makes alot of power and may very well have snapped those as fast as the ones he bought from me. You know as well as anyone race parts break.


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your a LIER, you sit and read my pm box, this is how you and your little homo crew do things, i heard that Frank jsut got fired for stealing, when is your turn, i dont forget thing either, like when you sold my dad that stuff and took the control arms off that he bouthgt that were spposed to be built by a guru, and you gave him some junk bbk crap, and guess what he tore em all up and his chassis is hurt becuase of YOU taking the good control arms and giving him junk, and Frank taking the full bottle of NOS from the kit he bought from Rick and giving my dad a beat up old empty bottle, but you prob dont remember that, people like you try to forget things like that and act like it was a good deal you did with this or that person, let me tell you one last thing, i am sick of getting kicked around by yinz, so you better pick and choose your words and actions wisely, because i am gonna make an EXAMPLE of one of yinz!!! count on it!!




Re: Vendor status
As far as the Flashlight drag thread, ill give you a 1000.00 if you can link me to anything that directly mentions your name in there prior to you exploding. You are paranoid and Mike is right, there are alot of race cars that go there and it is very easy to get a car stickered if you know someone. You didn't explain yourself, you made an ass out of yourself infront of hunderds of potential customers. I banned you but felt it wasn't right to keep you off for a week since you make your living out of your shop and this board supports that so you were reinstated. Mike only fired back at you because you started it. Brian had absolutely no business putting his 2 cents in so he was banned, I really do like Brian and that is the sad part. Your petty bullshit in that thread now has caused friction between him and I. What do ya know, I lose again!!! Also, since when does the rolling eyes smiley have your name on it? You really do have paranoia issues!!!!

I agree with you about GM killer, he is hard on you but I haven't noticed anything as of late and he has had nothing good to say about you long before Mike had his shop. I asked Mike a good while back to see if he could mention to Rob to not bother you anymore and he didn't until you took a shot at him again in Flashlights thread so you deserve what ever you get IMO. Nothing he said was untrue, anything and everything that leaves your shop you are married to so you should assume the worst when installing new or used parts and check everything to cover your ass. How about the loose plugs in Jives heads, he posted that on this board,you installed them. What are people to think? Your supposed to check things upon install. A month later his spark plug blew out of the head, do you think some people blame you? Of coarse, it doesn't matter it it was a defective part or your fault..

Here is the shot you took at rob that fired him back up on your ass.

[This is exactly why the real shops in the area will not become a big part of this site is because all the nut swingers like GMKILLER will cause problems, and say stuff like "oh boy hey Mike, that was sure a smelly crap you took, man it smelled the best, i have never ever smelled a crap that good" . I could post up that i like black shoes and someone would come and say, man black shoes are stupid and so are you... what is my problem?? and please no glue sniffing answers..]

As I said in my last PM, everything was pretty quiet until you fired things back up with the vortech thread and this post you made. Your whole problem here is with Mike and most of it stems from GM Killer stirring the pot and the fact that your jealous he is very busy down there. You have to expect alot of people are going to go to him, he does good work and is very convenient since most guys on here are in his area.

[better bring it to a garage that knows how to work on em.....]

Also, what did you find out about the rear control arms? Should I just call you Dad and ask him myself? I have his number at the lot.

[Sonic03snake]

His response


Re: Vendor status
We if he pmed you how would I know? This is something new to me. Besides, as I said. You freaked out in front of everyone and no one knows anything but what is in that thread. Im not sure what kind of relationship mike and I have but I talk to him once or twice a week on the phone. Its not like were roomies, well maybe once in a while if we go racing long distance. AllI can say is he has been quiet as far as I read on the board and has never tried to invade any of your monthly sales ever. You have also never asked me to talk to GM Killer, it wouldn't hurt to communicate with me. Quote:
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And i dont know if this is just me being petty or paranoid but Mike did pm me early that week befroe the flds, and asked me bout the drags and said right to me " i didnt know they let race cars in there" pointed right at me.//




Re: Vendor status
Ill call him tomorrow, if he said something like that I deffinately didn't hear it. I don't understand the click thing you keep refering to, I mostly hang at my house and tinker with junk in the driveway by myself. Its nice and relaxing and quiet for the most part. I do enough talking at work all day. I haven't spoken to frankin over 2 weeks, since he got fired. If you talk to your dad tomorrow before I do id even be willing to talk to you guys over lunch somewhere. I really have nothing against you guys other that you telling people shit behind my back with out even asking me what was up. It sincerely hurt my feelings. Quote:
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I just talked to my dad, he is at home, and he recalls standing in front of you and your wife trying to talk about those control arms to you and you would not even talk to him about it, he even remembers saying that he gets boned by everyone he deals with in that little klik IE frank and you... maybe your wife will remember him saying that??


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Re: Vendor status
I really would like to see everything straighten out, I seriously have too much stress at work and this board has me so sick im ready to turn the whole thing off. Quote:
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I never really asked you to talk to gmkiller becuase i thought it would end and i did not want to bother you, i really hate to be a complainer, i however did bring up his name in that fld post because i was mad and i prob should not have, but i did and i got repremanded for it... I dont want things to be like they are, i try to keep to myself as best i can Lou... I just wish people would keep there hatred comments to themselves, this is the only board i have ever been on that everyone picks on one another so bad, be it jokingly or just out right meaningful... I think i just need to keep to myself and only speek when i am spoken to...




Re: Vendor status
As I said before, I can't speak for Frank but why would your dad leave without asking further into the bottle thing? I sold your dadthose armsinmy garage one night when you guys were up at walmart if I remember right? Its been a long time ago but I do remember assuring him the ones I sold him were good and sincerely felt that way. I really don't hate you guys, hell I even hooked your little bro up with one of the last GT 40 intake covers in the world for what it cost when they were available. We could have put it on ebay and got way more. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
i think my dad was talking to you in Phil's garage when yinz were sellin gall that stuff off of tussi's old grren car, just call him,


He remembers it this way... Tussi had special built upper and lower control arms, as Phil and Tussi told him, he bought them from you and didnt get them right away, you said tussi's old arms went on your coupe, so now the special built bars were o your car and he got some other double ajdustable arms, he was never really happy bout that, then he bought the nos kit from Rick's old car and when he was carrying it out of the shop with a full nos bottle, Frank walked up to him and said that full bottle is his (frank's) not the one he just paid for, and Frank gave my dad this old empty bottle, i dont think this was your deal but when you have a garage full of guys all appearing to be on the same team you feel like if a team member or 2 bones you then thats not a cool team, if you get my drift, it is things that stick out in my mind that make me feel the way i do... Please correct me if i am wrong, but if it were you getting our end of the deal would you feel good or bad about it??


Re: stuff
The appology to Mike is up to you, he takes everything very seriously. I require no appology, just please keep peace here. Frank has been working at JJs with Brian, we haven't talked since the work thing. Ill seeif I can help get title for you. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
Sorry had to change the name of this lovers spat... Lou, i did post that vortech thing to jack Mike's wires, I got a big kit out of it, but i guess he did'nt so i will tell him i am sorry if that makes him feel better. I didnt really think he would take it so bad?? I dont want problems with him, and i know that he doesnt want problems with me!! The ball is in your court> If any of this was hurtfull to you or Mike, I am truely sorry, As you know i do a high volume of work at my shop and I just feel like there a few people that are sitting and waiting for me to mess up so the ycan jump on it, and that is exactly what gmkiller did when Dan posted about his valve seals... I dont see that as being to far as i was insured i had a fresh set of heads to work with, i mean they were so clean i could have eaten off of them, who would have guessed there were no valve seals on the exhaust guides??? And hey, could you give me frank's phone number, he still hasent given us the title to that car!!!

[Sonic03snake]

I sent him a warning. I really think we need to clear the air with the PMs you sent to a bunch of people containing our conversations. I got word from a few more people asking what it was all about. Im not forcing you or trying to make you do anything you don't want but I would really appreciate it if you would post something up clearing the air. And in the future I hope you would keep pms just what they are.
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Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
Just givning you a heads up this time around, i dont know this 91gtlmstang fellow and gmkiller is chasing ip addresses around and trying to say that it is me and my brother starting a thread about head porting... this is what he jsut posted


Is it a just by chance that ol' 91gtlmstang's ip address links back to uniontown???
It's not hard to see whats going on here.....
More b.s. from and incentive based posting from a particular member from uniontown......


this is what i ahve been trying to tell you about, he justs trys to pin everything on me or someone close to me... I am trying real hard to not post anything ignorant...



Re: here we go again Lou,
Also, Rob replied back and has agreed to back off. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
thats cool, but could you give a some kind of topic structure you are looking for??? i dont wanna say something stupid and stir the pot anymore... and tell Mike i am sorry if he got hurt in this...

[Sonic03snake]

Next chapter 06 / 09


Do we have to do this again?
Im not going through another vendor battle again Timmy, this is the shit that gets it rolling.


You can bet we will not kick you off the dyno if your car stalls or just needs a little attention, we (myself and Don) care more about your happiness and how your car runs than your money!! Unlike other shops, if we can't tune your car, you dont have to pay for the tune!!


Re: Do we have to do this again?
There is no you ****in guys, I read it last night and can see bullshit stiring! Im telling ya, im done with the BS on here! No excuses! And if you start sending these pms like last time your out of here! Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
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Originally Posted by Sonic03snake
Im not going through another vendor battle again Timmy, this is the shit that gets it rolling.


You can bet we will not kick you off the dyno if your car stalls or just needs a little attention, we (myself and Don) care more about your happiness and how your car runs than your money!! Unlike other shops, if we can't tune your car, you dont have to pay for the tune!!

I was talking about places like asap and stropes...

you guys are paranoid, I have no beef with Mike. But i will edit it to make him everyone happy..


Re: Do we have to do this again?
Thanks, it just pisses me off when you start the we bullshit. Mike hasn't said a word to me, I just don't want any BS. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodeheaver's
hey man, i really meant nothuing toward knowbody on this site... I already cleaned it up.. sorry Lou..

[Sonic03snake]

Sorry posting all this crap but im just tired of all the rumors going around. I feel I gave him more chances than anyone else on this board and he just continues to cry like he was innocent and "WE" were out to get him. If I were out to get him he would have been gone years ago. 400.00 to put up with this kind of BS is just crazy.

[Sonic03snake]

I also feel I should add, I have no problem with anyone else who is involved in the new site, my problem is and has always been with Timmy.