Looking for opinions on a possible Steelcitystangs track day @ PRP

[Sonic03snake]

it was to be a Ford event because that was the whole point of it. I had no intrest in a mixed brand event which is why we are where we are now. again I initiated this event, NO ONE ELSE, I brought some people in to help & it backfired into this. if you want a mixed brand event, they have them every weekend, there called regular race days & I don't see any of the people who feel the need to put their 2 cents into this discussion at any of them.

Larry, your obviously upset but was it better to have an event or none at all? I don't care much for the sat bracket program along with the majority of the guys on this board so I don't go. Hot rodding is about the people and getting together, who cares what you drive? Maybe your comunications with me were not as clear as your thought they were? I was under the asumption that the event was going to be an all ford event hosted by us "steelcitystangs" but you telling a different story now. If it was your deal and you wanted to "run the show", you should have called me after the date and details were set, then talk of this "sponsor deal".

[Sonic03snake]

again another example, there to work out ideas? there would have been no meeting if it wasn't for me, period.

? Someone thanked me, just wanted to be sure everyone else knew I was not the only one behind this. If you would have taken the initiative to post this thread no one would have mentioned me at all. Werent we all there to work out the ideas?

[Sonic03snake]

perfect example of how this got out of control, I was never contacted about this at all.

Once again, I was under the asumption that this was to be hosted by Steelcitystangs. Would it be right to turn away guys who are members here based on the car they drive? Not in my opinion.

[casper gt]

Larry, your obviously upset but was it better to have an event or none at all? I don't care much for the sat bracket program along with the majority of the guys on this board so I don't go. Hot rodding is about the people and getting together, who cares what you drive? Maybe your comunications with me were not as clear as your thought they were? I was under the asumption that the event was going to be an all ford event hosted by us "steelcitystangs" but you telling a different story now. If it was your deal and you wanted to "run the show", you should have called me after the date and details were set, then talk of this "sponsor deal".

I would have contacted you after the fact, but going into this I though we were freinds & that your input would be valueable. also IMO I would rather have no event than comprimise on the Ford thing. I don't get how I'm telling a diffrent story, you just said it was to be a Ford event hosted by SCS.

[Sonic03snake]

I would have contacted you after the fact, but going into this I though we were freinds & that your input would be valueable. also IMO I would rather have no event than comprimise on the Ford thing. I don't get how I'm telling a diffrent story, you just said it was to be a Ford event hosted by SCS.

My point in the 1st place was that Greg did not give us an all Ford Day and the cruise was going to be shared by the KOTS guys so why not just make it an open event to be sure it was a success. Then have Greg commit to our own Ford day with no one else next year. he said there was no other options this year, the calandar was full. You as a regular racer should support anything that makes the track money and keeps the doors open and leaves money for more improvements. If the track doesn't make money, you will be driving elsewhere to race. Like I said, I had no intension of taking anything away from what you had going, just shared my opinion as to what would make the event work. Why are you so against other makes being there? You used to be an olds guy, right?

[casper gt]

My point in the 1st place was that Greg did not give us an all Ford Day and the cruise was going to be shared by the KOTS guys so why not just make it an open event to be sure it was a success. Then have Greg commit to our own Ford day with no one else next year. he said there was no other options this year, the calandar was full. You as a regular racer should support anything that makes the track money and keeps the doors open and leaves money for more improvements. If the track doesn't make money, you will be driving elsewhere to race. Like I said, I had no intension of taking anything away from what you had going, just shared my opinion as to what would make the event work. Why are you so against other makes being there? You used to be an olds guy, right?

the main reason I was wanting a Ford event only is (not to sound like a dick, but it's reality) because I was doing 99% of the work to make it happen & thats why I was doing it (ie. to have a Ford event at PRP) I really don't see a problem there. when we left the meeting there seemed like there was still a chance of while not just a Ford event, a program that had a Ford part to it. If Greg would have sat down & said "there's no chance of any kinda Ford event of any type at PRP this year", that would have been fine, we could have been done with it right there & had a nice dinner & moved on. again let get realistic, I made every plan, made every phone call, sent every pm, hell even made the diner reservations, so how can a rational person think it could be changed from an event I wanted & worked so hard for & me not be pissed?

[Sonic03snake]

the main reason I was wanting a Ford event only is (not to sound like a dick, but it's reality) because I was doing 99% of the work to make it happen & thats why I was doing it (ie. to have a Ford event at PRP) I really don't see a problem there. when we left the meeting there seemed like there was still a chance of while not just a Ford event, a program that had a Ford part to it. If Greg would have sat down & said "there's no chance of any kinda Ford event of any type at PRP this year", that would have been fine, we could have been done with it right there & had a nice dinner & moved on. again let get realistic, I made every plan, made every phone call, sent every pm, hell even made the diner reservations, so how can a rational person think it could be changed from an event I wanted & worked so hard for & me not be pissed?

No body has denied you started the whole plan right up till the meeting. You said yourself, you asked me there for input and thats what I gave. If you said to greg, lets do it next year, I would have been glad to help in what ever way you asked. You asked me along, I gave my input, Greg made the decision on his own after the meeting. Not sure why I became the punching bag?

[casper gt]

No body has denied you started the whole plan right up till the meeting. You said yourself, you asked me there for input and thats what I gave. If you said to greg, lets do it next year, I would have been glad to help in what ever way you asked. You asked me along, I gave my input, Greg made the decision on his own after the meeting. Not sure why I became the punching bag?

the reason I have made the statements I have over the last week or so is because I handle most things in a stand up /straight forward way. if a friend asks for help on a project, while I make shure not to overstep my bounds, it becomes my project. his goals become my goals, his wants become my wants. if a friend asked me to help organize a red car event for example, I would NEVER take it upon myself to include blue cars without asking him first. I feel that if you would have contacted me to state your feelings as to this event going badly rather than taking it upon yourself to include all makes/etc, this would have all been avoided. but was NEVER contacted untill I needed to make my feelings known, how fair is that?

[Sonic03snake]

the reason I have made the statements I have over the last week or so is because I handle most things in a stand up /straight forward way. if a friend asks for help on a project, while I make shure not to overstep my bounds, it becomes my project. his goals become my goals, his wants become my wants. if a friend asked me to help organize a red car event for example, I would NEVER take it upon myself to include blue cars without asking him first. I feel that if you would have contacted me to state your feelings as to this event going badly rather than taking it upon yourself to include all makes/etc, this would have all been avoided. but was NEVER contacted untill I needed to make my feelings known, how fair is that?

I guess im done here, you must have been looking for your 15 minutes of fame here and it didn't work out the way you wanted to so now its time to lay the blame elsewhere. It couldn't have been your poor communication skills? na, it was that ****in Lou and his big mouth who brain washed Greg. If I want something done a ceartain way i do it myself. If ask other people to help, it becomes a team effort. You came to me and asked for my opinions and for the last time, I didn't make the decision to change it. Greg did. Your not mad at him because he is the manager of the track you race at. Your not bad mouthing Bob because you guys were buddies. Who's left? Me.

[casper gt]

I guess im done here, you must have been looking for your 15 minutes of fame here and it didn't work out the way you wanted to so now its time to lay the blame elsewhere. It couldn't have been your poor communication skills? na, it was that ****in Lou and his big mouth who brain washed Greg. If I want something done a ceartain way i do it myself. If ask other people to help, it becomes a team effort. You came to me and asked for my opinions and for the last time, I didn't make the decision to change it. Greg did. Your not mad at him because he is the manager of the track you race at. Your not bad mouthing Bob because you guys were buddies. Who's left? Me.

I'm done here as well. before I go the reason Bob & Greg are left outta this is because they never said anything publicly, it has nothing to do with friends or buisness, I always have & I always will say whats on my mind regaurdless of the consiquences, good or bad.

[AdamantiumSilvr]

I was wanderin if at all possible something like the True Street class could be the all Ford and all SCS crew. Stagin in the street lanes.

And the King Of the Street mixed makes/models er whoever else could be stagein in the slick lanes.

U could set up n have grudge matches between both in a certain lane or the bike lanes if u wanted too.

Maybe have runoffs from each class mixin KOS and TS up in the semis and finals.

It would be kinda like NMRA/NMCA, however they would run each other in their events. Not that I actually know the rules and how they set up and run their events. Um just kinda throwin some random thinkins out n about. Don't just be done with it, unite n make something work out for sure!!

This way its all good in the hood for all and we could just have some good ole racing goin on. Duke it out on the strip ya know?

[wick]

the reason I have made the statements I have over the last week or so is because I handle most things in a stand up /straight forward way.

Fast forward to yesterday, I get a PM from a friend that states Larry is over on UGH talking crap on me and others for rail roading him on his idea and stealing his thunder and I was only asked to the event to be a sponsor (Because I work @ Laurel Mountain).

I may be out of place here but I really cant let this go. I understand its not my place but... These two posts speak for themselvs. So, how is this a stand up method? Is it something new, like a new way of being stand up? If so,m I would really like to know. I dont know you and dont really care but some of the things you stated here are really childish and outlandish. Please grow up. Its almost like grammar school stuff here. Now I understand why Lou does not like to organize parties or anything else. Sorry to interrupt the dispute here. Carry on...

[wick]

I was wanderin if at all possible something like the True Street class could be the all Ford and all SCS crew. Stagin in the street lanes.

And the King Of the Street mixed makes/models er whoever else could be stagein in the slick lanes.

U could set up n have grudge matches between both in a certain lane or the bike lanes if u wanted too.

Maybe have runoffs from each class mixin KOS and TS up in the semis and finals.

It would be kinda like NMRA/NMCA, however they would run each other in their events. Not that I actually know the rules and how they set up and run their events. Um just kinda throwin some random thinkins out n about. Don't just be done with it, unite n make something work out for sure!!

This way its all good in the hood for all and we could just have some good ole racing goin on. Duke it out on the strip ya know?

Give it up son, probably not going to happen now. Probably better off driving an extra 45 minutes to Quaker city. Honestly, I would not be suprised to see this get locked and forgotten about due to the childish BS from the Casper fella. If I were him I would be honored that somebody like Lou is helping out with it as much as he is/did.

[scott5]

Brent the NMCA is the combination of ALL makes and models

[Sonic03snake]

The big concearn with Greg was turn out. We have about 250 unique members who visit here on a daily basis and the chances of even half making the event for what ever reason would be a miracle. That is why he put our event in with the KOTS day. The track is a business and they didn't want to chance a flop day the 1st time around. I can respect that and im just glad to see them trying something different and will do what ever I can to support them. Maybe next year we can do an all SCS day or something like that.

I was wanderin if at all possible something like the True Street class could be the all Ford and all SCS crew. Stagin in the street lanes.

And the King Of the Street mixed makes/models er whoever else could be stagein in the slick lanes.

U could set up n have grudge matches between both in a certain lane or the bike lanes if u wanted too.

Maybe have runoffs from each class mixin KOS and TS up in the semis and finals.

It would be kinda like NMRA/NMCA, however they would run each other in their events. Not that I actually know the rules and how they set up and run their events. Um just kinda throwin some random thinkins out n about. Don't just be done with it, unite n make something work out for sure!!

This way its all good in the hood for all and we could just have some good ole racing goin on. Duke it out on the strip ya know?

[Wolfpack Speed]

I'm done here as well. before I go the reason Bob & Greg are left outta this is because they never said anything publicly, it has nothing to do with friends or buisness, I always have & I always will say whats on my mind regaurdless of the consiquences, good or bad.

Larry,

You have completely blown this way out of proportion. I know you are frustrated that "your event" didn't work out, but don't act like your life's work was yanked out from underneath you by Lou or anyone else. You made some phone calls and beat some ears, Greg made his decision and thats the end of it. Lou did absolutely nothing wrong and your posts in this thread clearly show that. You pulled the same back stabbing crap on me last year, now your on here doing the same thing to Lou

[wick]

Larry,

You have completely blown this way out of proportion. I know you are frustrated that "your event" didn't work out, but don't act like your life's work was yanked out from underneath you by Lou or anyone else. You made some phone calls and beat some ears, Greg made his decision and thats the end of it. Lou did absolutely nothing wrong and your posts in this thread clearly show that. You pulled the same back stabbing crap on me last year, now your on here doing the same thing to Lou

I should add this into my post too as well... Up front huh?

[Wolfpack Speed]

I should add this into my post too as well... Up front huh?

I'm not trying to be a d$ck, I'm just amazed at how quickly people will turn their back on you when there is a little bump in the road A little communication goes a long way, you cant fix or solve a problem if you don't know it exists! 99% of my customers and the members here are stand up people, it's the 1% of boneheads that drive me nuts!

[wick]

I'm not trying to be a d$ck, I'm just amazed at how quickly people will turn their back on you when there is a little bump in the road A little communication goes a long way, you cant fix or solve a problem if you don't know it exists! 99% of my customers and the members here are stand up people, it's the 1% of boneheads that drive me nuts!

I understand. Same here...

[AdamantiumSilvr]

...u r correct. I was just sayin the KOTS portion could be like the NMCA. Just having it be the mixed up class.

Brent the NMCA is the combination of ALL makes and models