New 363/369 N/A Combo

**gmkillr** · 08-01-2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by TJH64

Robert,I have a TFI module and the module from the distributor that I can ship to your house to try out and see if these are the culprit.

This is just a thought, but with you spinning this new combo much higher than the previous ones, have you checked the shaft in the distributor for excessive wear. I'm thinking the shaft may be wobbling causing erratic contact at the rotor??

Thanks for the offer but I have another TFI module here.
Got a MSD box or distributor to try? lol

The shaft in my old distributor did have alot of play and thats what caused the rotor to hit in the cap and break. Threw in a replacement old dizzy I had laying around that had NO play in the shaft and the car runs fine but I still had the above experiences with my testing after it was installed.

**cam303** · 08-01-2010, 10:49 PM

I have an msd box and an msd distributor you can try but i dont think the distributor will work on the 94-95 cars

**gmkillr** · 08-02-2010, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by cam303

I have an msd box and an msd distributor you can try but i dont think the distributor will work on the 94-95 cars

Yes the 94-95 distributors are year specific.

What box do you have....6AL?

**cam303** · 08-02-2010, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by gmkillr

Yes the 94-95 distributors are year specific.

What box do you have....6AL?

Yes 6AL

**yeahloh95** · 08-02-2010, 07:53 AM

maybe you need to do the crystal mod ?

**Killercanary** · 08-02-2010, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by yeahloh95

maybe you need to do the crystal mod ?

That is for A9L ECU's only.

**gmkillr** · 08-02-2010, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Killercanary

That is for A9L ECU's only.

From my understanding its for any and all eec-IV and eec-V as they all have the same 15MHz oscillator crystal in them. They need to be upgraded to a 18MHz crystal to process the higher rpms.

http://www.hardcore50.com/vbulletin/...crystal&page=2

http://eectuning.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=13962

**Balaska347** · 08-02-2010, 12:16 PM

My first suggestion is to run the car on a full quarter mile track because you might learn something on the second half of the track or find more problems. I can understand tuning your suspension and launches at that track but you have bigger problems. Pinks is not 1/8 mile...

I highly doubt its the distibutor because it is working the whole time the car is running. It doesnt know when you are shifting the car. The same thing goes for the TFI. They usually act up when they get hot and it is all through the rpm ot also doent know if te car is shifting.

When I am questioning my ignition box I do what Joe said just bypass it and run the factory ignition and if it still does it thats not your problem.

Im still betting its the tune or the crystal.

**bgblockelcamino** · 08-02-2010, 12:27 PM

keep in mind with steel valley it is great for shakedowns but not always accurate comparison. you were def pulling some decent 60s there.

wouldn't be surprised with msd box. have had a few go bad on me. but usually revert back to stock ignition temporarily and see what it does.

**wick** · 08-02-2010, 01:05 PM

I really doubt its the tune. It makes no sense. Have you changed the cap yet? I would bypass the msd and try a different coil. How is the charging system? The pop could be causing issues at the elevated rpm also.

**wick** · 08-02-2010, 01:06 PM

Figure, dave tunes enough race cars that turn the high rpm.

**Balaska347** · 08-02-2010, 03:27 PM

Its not the cap but they are cheap enough if it would make you feel better to try it. If you know how it works it doesn't make sense for it to only do it during shifts.

**yeahloh95** · 08-02-2010, 03:31 PM

is your 2 step tied into the clutch pedal can you be activating it during the shift ?

**wick** · 08-02-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by Balaska347

Its not the cap but they are cheap enough if it would make you feel better to try it. If you know how it works it doesn't make sense for it to only do it during shifts.

the rpm rips up when he is pushing the clutch in. It could be giving some erratic spark inside the cap.

Originally Posted by yeahloh95

is your 2 step tied into the clutch pedal can you be activating it during the shift ?

I asked this the first time he called me.

**Balaska347** · 08-03-2010, 01:07 AM

Originally Posted by wick

the rpm rips up when he is pushing the clutch in. It could be giving some erratic spark inside the cap.

Doesn't he run a face plated TKO? I didn't think you used the clutch when shifting...

He spins the motor to 7800 no problem therefore the parts that he has have to be working pretty darn good. The problem only occurs during the shifts. I highly doubt he is going to find the problem with the basic things. This is only my 2cents so dont take it for much.

**biminiLX** · 08-03-2010, 02:24 AM

Still use the clutch with a face-plated trans.

I also thought about the 2-step on the clutch but is there anyway to disable it if its tied to the clutch?
What did Dave at SGS think.
I still think aftermarket injection is in your near future.
Good luck.
-J

**gmkillr** · 08-03-2010, 03:32 AM

Im borrowing a MSD 6AL box from a very generous board member to see if that is part of the issue.

Im getting a brand new MSD Billet Distributor.

Dave Guy @ SGS wont return my phone calls....

The only way my 2-step works is if my momentary switch is held down so that is not the issue. This was the very first thing that I tested as I thought it could have been the culprit. Once I let my finger off of the momentary switch the 2-step no longer works. Hell I even took the 2-step out of the car and it changed nothing.

I will make some 1/4 mile hits before Pinks, I have to worry about these issues first.

Once again Mike @ Wolfpack Speed is really stepping up and helping me sort out my issues. Hats off to him!

Thanks buddy!

Im going to try a new improvised tune from Jon Lund via Wolfpack Speed and upgrade the crystal in my stock ecu.

I use a diaphram clutch that is shifted just like a NON-Face-plated tranny.
Ive heard you can shift them without the clutch but it is extremly hard on it so I wont be doing that anytime soon....lol:o

From my research, with the crystal upgrade to the stock ecu and a good tune is good to 8500 rpm which will suit me fine as my junk was built for 8K.:)

**biminiLX** · 08-04-2010, 11:24 AM

Not cool that the guy that tuned it won't call you back.
Hopefully the crystal helps, PM sent to you and Mike.
-J

**gmkillr** · 08-04-2010, 12:58 PM

New MSD Billet Distributor should be here today from Summit.

I have cam303's MSD 6AL box all ready to go. I want to run just the new distributor by itself first to see if thats the fix, if not then i'll switch over to cam303's (Chris) msd box and make another pass to see what that does.

Testing,testing & more testing.....

J, I hit ya back with a pm bud!