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    Who or What did you see today?

    Truth is if you are unemployed you are at a strong disadvantage as most large corporate employers use a calculus program that weights those who are currently employed or young and in school or recently graduated. If you have been unemployed for longer than a few months it is very hard to get that first interview after you apply at their website or through monster etc. it is firewall built into the new automated hiring process to cherry pick the best applicants because there are way way more applicants than available jobs. It's not like the old days when almost anyone was granted an interview for a job and given the chance to prove they are more than the sum of the points on their applications. The MO of most large corporate employers is if you are long term unemployed you are a liability and possibly a problem employee. All of this is gleaned by data without ever even meeting or interviewing the candidate. Basically, you are just a number.

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    Who or What did you see today?

    Also, that vet in question could be suffering from PTSD, depression, or other disabilities. I'm actually surprised with all the right wingers on here that you would chastise an unemployed veteran. Okay, I,m not that surprised.

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    I see people on TV begging for my money everyday and no one bitches about that. Perhaps if the guy in question had hot bitches and was a fast talker he'd rake in the coin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaceFever79 View Post
    Also, that vet in question could be suffering from PTSD, depression, or other disabilities. I'm actually surprised with all the right wingers on here that you would chastise an unemployed veteran. Okay, I,m not that surprised.
    If that were the case they would likely be getting some sort of pension from the military. There are many veterans out there who do need help, thankfully there are about a zillion programs out there to help those in need, all they need to do is look.

    There are (and I have worked with) convicted felons who somehow find employment, so I find that being out of work for a long time is really not a valid excuse for not finding a job. Unfortunately some people just need to go do something else if they can't find work in their preferred field. Shocking how immigrants who come here with absolutely nothing can figure out they sometimes have to work multiple menial jobs for a while to make things work, but our own people find themselves above it.

    I am sure there are exceptions, but the vast majority of the time panhandlers are just lazy people looking for a handout, and anyone who gives money to them is an idiot.
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    How do we know he was an actual veteran. Maybe he just says he was and uses that as an excuse.

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    Right, everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

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    Who or What did you see today?

    My sister volunteers at Walter Reed medical center, you are dreaming if you think that all veterans are being taken care of by the VA or the oh so generous patriots that donate to all the veterans charities. Fact is there is a lot of people suffering in silence or falling through the cracks of the systems in place to help rehabilitate and support them. From what she tells me the longer it takes to rehabilitate them, the more chronic their problems are, the more they tend to fall out of place in society.
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    Well look at the country we live in. Do you believe in the good of every single person you meet then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cLockWise View Post
    Well look at the country we live in. Do you believe in the good of every single person you meet then?

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    Absolutely, barring mental illness, we are all basically the same. The main difference is nurture, or the experiences we have that shape and mold us and sometimes damage us. Everyone deserves compassion. And those with psychological damage or mental illness also deserve compassion. One of the main problems with our society is we are way too prejudice, judgemental, and vindictive. For bible thumpers, excessive pride and righteousness are also deadly sins. For the rest of us, it's just a nasty disposition we have to deal with.

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    On the former subject: I'm sure there are some good people that just need a helping hand, however as a whole there is an entire generation or more that seem to feel that they are entitled to life just working out for them. And if it doesn't just direct itself to working out society has to make up the difference. Im tired of it. There are plenty of hard working people that have solid work ethics that are tired of it. Seems to be a minority anymore. Success isn't a right. Its earned by hard work and perseverance for most of us. Not always glamorous, not always easy.

    On the latter subject: Lulz!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam99 View Post
    On the former subject: I'm sure there are some good people that just need a helping hand, however as a whole there is an entire generation or more that seem to feel that they are entitled to life just working out for them. And if it doesn't just direct itself to working out society has to make up the difference. Im tired of it. There are plenty of hard working people that have solid work ethics that are tired of it. Seems to be a minority anymore. Success isn't a right. Its earned by hard work and perseverance for most of us. Not always glamorous, not always easy.

    On the latter subject: Lulz!
    I know we hear about this sort of thing constantly in certain but not all media outlets, but I honestly don't know anyone that fits into that description. Most of the people that I know who are down on their luck are hard working ambitious folks with little or no opportunity to work. They are either severely under employed or long term unemployed. You can't blame the victim for the failure of those in power to create and maintain a healthy domestic economy and employment. Just like I have never had any reason to be armed or have ever even witnessed any sort of gun violence in my life, the constant barrage of murder and mayhem on our TV sets would have one afraid to walk outside because at any moment they might be attacked - the same holds true for the low life slackers and mooches you hear about on right wing media, for the most part they do not exist. Have you ever been between jobs and desperate or homeless? I have, it is not at all what you think. It can be a short and abrupt fall from being on the inside living the dream, to being on the outside looking in, with no real helping hand to be found. I got me one of those minimum wage jobs... I still lost my car, then my house, then my studio apartment, then my weekly hotel. Lucky for me my folks let me stay with them for a few months so I could rebuild my life. But not until I was actually homeless for a month. Some people don't have that family safety net. And that no good mooch on the street corner is very likely to be one of them. So I'm just asking you to judge people by the people you actually know in real life, rather than judging them by what you've heard or saw in the media. I find the media portrayal, especially the right leaning media, to be extremely distorted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaceFever79 View Post
    I know we hear about this sort of thing constantly in certain but not all media outlets, but I honestly don't know anyone that fits into that description. Most of the people that I know who are down on their luck are hard working ambitious folks with little or no opportunity to work. They are either severely under employed or long term unemployed. You can't blame the victim for the failure of those in power to create and maintain a healthy domestic economy and employment. Just like I have never had any reason to be armed or have ever even witnessed any sort of gun violence in my life, the constant barrage of murder and mayhem on our TV sets would have one afraid to walk outside because at any moment they might be attacked - the same holds true for the low life slackers and mooches you hear about on right wing media, for the most part they do not exist. Have you ever been between jobs and desperate or homeless? I have, it is not at all what you think. It can be a short and abrupt fall from being on the inside living the dream, to being on the outside looking in, with no real helping hand to be found. I got me one of those minimum wage jobs... I still lost my car, then my house, then my studio apartment, then my weekly hotel. Lucky for me my folks let me stay with them for a few months so I could rebuild my life. But not until I was actually homeless for a month. Some people don't have that family safety net. And that no good mooch on the street corner is very likely to be one of them. So I'm just asking you to judge people by the people you actually know in real life, rather than judging them by what you've heard or saw in the media. I find the media portrayal, especially the right leaning media, to be extremely distorted.
    We live in different area's, I see it everyday. I'm not a sheep just following what the almighty TV tells me. I watch firsthand every day when I'm at my local store people 18 year old using their access cards to buy MT dew and twinkies. (never real food that you would actually feed a family with). There is 99% chance that these people can work, but govenment handouts are much easier. And it goes right up the age bracket till you can get SS or SSI. These are generational abusers of the system. It's so corrupted and abused it's sickening. Me and my wife have worked with people who brag about working and still recieving full benefits. It's all in how you fill out the paperwork and answer questions...and not having any ethics. Did you know if you tell your health provider that you are feeling suicidal, you can get qualified for ssi. Because you have a "condition" that can prohibit you from having employment. It's one of the many loopholes exploited to get your free money. I could go on and on. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, evryone is entitled to their opinion, but mine comes from seeing it daily. I wish for everyone to get help when they need it, but it's help, it's not taking care of you forever when you are able to provide for yourself. I have donated thousands of dollars and my services since I have been in business and continue to do so to people that have fallen on hard times and need some help, however I have no compassion for people that are just lazy and want to leech off society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam99 View Post
    We live in different area's, I see it everyday. I'm not a sheep just following what the almighty TV tells me. I watch firsthand every day when I'm at my local store people 18 year old using their access cards to buy MT dew and twinkies. (never real food that you would actually feed a family with). There is 99% chance that these people can work, but govenment handouts are much easier. And it goes right up the age bracket till you can get SS or SSI. These are generational abusers of the system. It's so corrupted and abused it's sickening. Me and my wife have worked with people who brag about working and still recieving full benefits. It's all in how you fill out the paperwork and answer questions...and not having any ethics. Did you know if you tell your health provider that you are feeling suicidal, you can get qualified for ssi. Because you have a "condition" that can prohibit you from having employment. It's one of the many loopholes exploited to get your free money. I could go on and on. I'm not trying to prove you wrong, evryone is entitled to their opinion, but mine comes from seeing it daily. I wish for everyone to get help when they need it, but it's help, it's not taking care of you forever when you are able to provide for yourself. I have donated thousands of dollars and my services since I have been in business and continue to do so to people that have fallen on hard times and need some help, however I have no compassion for people that are just lazy and want to leech off society.
    I have family who works the system. I'm ashamed of it, and quite frankly refuse to talk with them or have any ties to them because of that. In Washington, I see a lot of the same things that you're describing. People at the local Walmarts and convenience stores buying Twinkies, Mt Dew, Twizzlers, etc., all with their access cards. I've even witnessed an woman whom was unable to speak any English what-so-ever to the guy at the counter pay with an access card. He had no idea what she wanted, or what she was asking for. I explained it to him considering I still was able to use some of my Spanish speaking skills. This was around the time that I was paying almost 300.00/mo in heating costs because the house I was living in was so poorly insulated that the heater wouldn't stop running. Heating oil isn't cheap at all either. I had a completely horrible job, working 10-12 hours a day for very little money. My boss "promised" me to give me raises, and continued to fail at that aspect, saying that the whole company as a whole needed to work better as a team and that he wouldn't pay out any extra money until that time occurs. There would be days I would be scheduled to work all day and then he would cut me 4 hours early for my shift. Or days I'd come in and he'd send me back home because he decided to take the morning off. I wouldn't get paid for that time. I applied for heating assistance and the government declined me because they said I made too much money and that I was fully capable of paying for heating oil on my own. I was pulling money monthly from my savings account, until it dwindled down and I barely had any money left. Luckily my parents offered to help me out and I got out of there. My situation may not have been as bad as other people's, but I see individuals who don't work, attempt to work, or even care to find a job getting free handouts. I was working hard, trying to make a living, and was denied for heating assistance. I didn't want anything else. I didn't want food stamps, or any other types of assistance, I just wanted to be helped with one thing, and that was my heat. There are good people out there who get declined every day because some bum is lying on his statement form.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cam99 View Post
    On the former subject: I'm sure there are some good people that just need a helping hand, however as a whole there is an entire generation or more that seem to feel that they are entitled to life just working out for them. And if it doesn't just direct itself to working out society has to make up the difference. Im tired of it. There are plenty of hard working people that have solid work ethics that are tired of it. Seems to be a minority anymore. Success isn't a right. Its earned by hard work and perseverance for most of us. Not always glamorous, not always easy.

    On the latter subject: Lulz!

    Absolfreakinlutely!

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    You do realize every angry old man has said the same thing since the beginning of time?

    That probably says more about you than the younger generation..........

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