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    Arrow Pay up Sucker!

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...s-health-care/

    "Obamacare is a socialist law designed to take money from some Americans and use it to benefit others. The health care bill signed into law by President Obama is full of hidden time bombs. One costly provision buried in the lengthy reconciliation bill at the last minute has taxpayers covering long-term at-home care for the elderly. Through the so-called Community Living Assistance Services and Support Act (CLASS Act), Americans will find In January of 2011 between $150 and $250 taken out of their paychecks each month to cover this program nobody knew about.


    Democrats might not consider $109 billion in taxes over the program's first 10 years to be controversial. But taking $150 to $250 out of each monthly paycheck will cause problems for millions of Americans. This is yet another example of Mr. Obama breaking his promise not to raise taxes on those making less than $250,000 per year. It's not what we consider a very classy act. "


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    not to threadjack, but LOL @ irony of jesse james' hand tatoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
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    Alex Jones is Insane.

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    "Additionally, Obamacare imposes an investment surtax of 3.8 percent in 2013.The following are the tax rates on these capital gains for each of the next several years:

    * 2010 — Current law: 15 percent; tax hike raise to 31.3 percent
    * 2011-2012 — 31.3 percent
    * 2013 and beyond — 38.5 percent


    What will be the result of this 157 percent tax hike on general partners of investment firms? "

    http://www.newsmax.com/GroverNorquis...5/27/id/360367
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    he predicted most things that have happend. Seems pretty legit to me.

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    Also give me some reasons he's insane. I'm just asking...mabey there's something I don't know?? You really think republicans and democrats run this country? Left and right Bs? Obama is a puppet. Until people realize this they'll be in a cloud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
    Also give me some reasons he's insane. I'm just asking...mabey there's something I don't know?? You really think republicans and democrats run this country? Left and right Bs? Obama is a puppet. Until people realize this they'll be in a cloud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by map351 View Post
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    I never got real into chemtrails myself. I never even thought much of 9/11, until I did some research and there is ALOT of suspicious things that day. I could list more than a hundred of these. Plus it wouldn't be the first time The Gov. (AKA) the bankers lied to go to war. Sorry to highjack thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
    I never got real into chemtrails myself. I never even thought much of 9/11, until I did some research and there is ALOT of suspicious things that day. I could list more than a hundred of these. Plus it wouldn't be the first time The Gov. (AKA) the bankers lied to go to war. Sorry to highjack thread....
    Now watch this...
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3x...embed?start=27
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    Quote Originally Posted by map351 View Post
    Ok, I watched it. No change of opinion here. Everything's a conspiracy anymore even when you have facts to back it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
    Also give me some reasons he's insane. I'm just asking...mabey there's something I don't know?? You really think republicans and democrats run this country? Left and right Bs? Obama is a puppet. Until people realize this they'll be in a cloud.
    Who runs the country if I might ask?
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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
    Ok, I watched it. No change of opinion here. Everything's a conspiracy anymore even when you have facts to back it up.
    Did a 757 hit the Pentagon?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin01cobra View Post
    Who runs the country if I might ask?
    That would be the central banks, who own the governments. He who makes the money makes the rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by map351 View Post
    Did a 757 hit the Pentagon?
    I don't know. That evidence proves nothing to me though. What I do know is the vidoe tapes taken at the gas station and hotel across the street that would have shown the whole incident were demanded by FBI agents a few minutes after the so called crash, and the employees were warned not speak of what they saw on the tapes. That sounds like some sneaky stuff there. How about how they were able to identify all passengers of the plane when they said the thing vaporized on contact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
    That would be the central banks, who own the governments. He who makes the money makes the rules.



    I don't know. That evidence proves nothing to me though. What I do know is the vidoe tapes taken at the gas station and hotel across the street that would have shown the whole incident were demanded by FBI agents a few minutes after the so called crash, and the employees were warned not speak of what they saw on the tapes. That sounds like some sneaky stuff there. How about how they were able to identify all passengers of the plane when they said the thing vaporized on contact?
    And who now controls the banks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin01cobra View Post
    And who now controls the banks?
    Thats a good question and still unknown. No one really knows who owns the Federal Reserve. They've never been audited....why?

    Government pays interest to the Fed, which is where your unconstitutional income tax came from. Actually, the fed itself is unconstitutional, and was passed illegally in 1913 on christmas eve. when everybody was at home with their family. After this Woodrow Wilson apologise's to the country for letting this happen. This country now uses paper money, with little to no gold backing. Look at a graph of inflation and for over 100 years with the exeption of war times, a dollar saved was a dollar earned.

    Now look at us, two parents working, and then working more to make ends meet due to this inflation. The bulk of our money goes to taxes, interest, and inflation. Planning for retirement is almost a joke for someone my age. Now that both parents are out working look at morality, see any decline? Ask a kid these days whats important in life if you can get them away from the tv, or txt machine. It's so transparent I can't believe older folks haven't seen it happening in front of them.
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    Btw, the fed is a private bank and has no ties with the government. It's as federal as federal express.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John4cam View Post
    That would be the central banks, who own the governments. He who makes the money makes the rules.



    I don't know. That evidence proves nothing to me though. What I do know is the vidoe tapes taken at the gas station and hotel across the street that would have shown the whole incident were demanded by FBI agents a few minutes after the so called crash, and the employees were warned not speak of what they saw on the tapes. That sounds like some sneaky stuff there. How about how they were able to identify all passengers of the plane when they said the thing vaporized on contact?
    What the conspiracy theorists keep forgetting is the old adage that two people can keep a secret if at least one of them is dead.

    The million dollar question nobody asks when making up fantasies about the 9-11 attack. What happened to the people.....

    maybe they got the families of all the dead people to make up stories? Maybe nobody was ever on the plane becuase it was a missile and not a plane so all those missing people are hiding in basements ? Perhaps mass CIA sweeps followed by fake airline reservations and cooked up fake kisses and hugs goodbye? Fake tears of mothers without sons and sisters without brothers?
    Fake waiting at the airport for your dad on a plane that never was?

    Maybe W. filled the planes with orphans or somebody that would never be missed?
    (nothing here intended to malign orphins btw)

    The truth is that the people are dead. The planes are crashed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by map351 View Post
    What the conspiracy theorists keep forgetting is the old adage that two people can keep a secret if at least one of them is dead.

    The million dollar question nobody asks when making up fantasies about the 9-11 attack. What happened to the people.....

    maybe they got the families of all the dead people to make up stories? Maybe nobody was ever on the plane becuase it was a missile and not a plane so all those missing people are hiding in basements ? Perhaps mass CIA sweeps followed by fake airline reservations and cooked up fake kisses and hugs goodbye? Fake tears of mothers without sons and sisters without brothers?
    Fake waiting at the airport for your dad on a plane that never was?

    Maybe W. filled the planes with orphans or somebody that would never be missed?
    (nothing here intended to malign orphins btw)

    The truth is that the people are dead. The planes are crashed.



    Thats exaclty why I said this evidence doesn't mean much to me. I never claimed to believe that part of the Conspiracy theory. I think it's strange the FBI took those tapes and out of a hundred cameras at the pentagon they give us hand picked evidence that shows 5 frames of nothing. I don't think thats enough to say it was a missle, but damn that seems fishy.

    Here is what makes me believe 9/11 was a self inflicted wound.

    19 highjackers armed with boxcutters defeated our multi billion dollar air defense system? Out of that system, no one was fired. When people get fired there is investigations.

    Bin Laden was never charged for the attacks on 9/11. When asked about this it was said there wasn't enough evidence to charge him with a crime. So we went to two wars afterwards not knowing for sure? Bin Laden was charged in the past for attacks on the embassy and cole, but not the biggest US tragedy in history?

    Why did we invade Iraq? For WOMD? We better go attack most everybody now since most country's have the capability of producing them.

    Building 7, a 47 story skyscraper collapsed later in the day on 9/11 after burning for hours. This building came straight down at freefall speed. No plane hit it, and the damage to it by the falling towers is shown nowhere in any videos.

    9/11 was done by people in our own government, and banking system to perpetuate fear of the people and to get the people to subordinate to things they wouldn't normally.

    Before, Clinton passed the anti terrorism act. These so called attacks enabled him to pass this. This bill striped us of our rights. G.W Bush passes the patriot act. Another bill that shreads the constitution. I see a pattern here.

    Google the cia's operation Northwoods, or the gulf of tonkin incident. It seems the Gov. has this down to a science.

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