Concealed carry question

[Sonic03snake]

BS

The issue in the entire thread is that you guys were pulled out.

Meanwhile you never told anyone he didn;t have a permit on him.

Nice try trying to change this around.

The issue was being pulled w/o a question of a permit. My whole question / issue is why it was done that way and if this was common. Do you know why they did that? Did I look suspicious? Im not trying to be cute here, just looking for answers.

[thedak]

It just bothers me to have been treated the way we did. I had the windows down, license out, didn't drink and drive, told the truth about the weapons, it went bad after that.

I don't think it went bad at all. Went pretty smoothly.

You guys were walked outta the truck and a quick Terry Frisk.

They you were free to do whatever you wanted.

People were even joking with you guys.

Your buddy was detained for 20 minutes as he and his guns were run.

Back on the road in 25 minutes with no further hassle.

There is no other way to do it safely.

[Sonic03snake]

I don't think it went bad at all. Went pretty smoothly.

You guys were walked outta the truck and a quick Terry Frisk.

They you were free to do whatever you wanted.

People were even joking with you guys.

Your buddy was detained for 20 minutes as he and his guns were run.

Back on the road in 25 minutes with no further hassle.

There is no other way to do it safely.

Yes, everyone treated us very cool, i guess I suck at getting my point across here, what made them do it in the 1st place? They didn't ask for a permit. If that is standard procedure, it sucks to be a gun owner.

[thedak]

The issue was being pulled w/o a question of a permit.

It wasn't my stop so I have no clue what was initially asked or said.

I'm going off what I actually saw and heard.

[412mustangz]

Yes, everyone treated us very cool, i guess I suck at getting my point across here, what made them do it in the 1st place? They didn't ask for a permit. If that is standard procedure, it sucks to be a gun owner.

if im the officer that was at ur window that nite n asked if u had guns in the car n u said ya, im not gonna let u reach around in ur car for a permit when u had wat 3 others with u when any one of them coulda had a gun..lets say u guys had ur permits already out and in ur hands, still idk if any of the weapons r stolen..if i wanted to check 2 make sure they werent stolen, i would pull all of u out n do a quick frisk to make sure all weapons r accounted for..y did they do it in the first place u ask, mayb its brentwoods SOP's to do that, idk..

[SK360]

mayb its brentwoods SOP's to do that, idk..

Was a state run checkpoint afaik.

[thedak]

OP,

I understand what you are getting at.

There is a fine line between harrassing a law abiding citizen and police work.

Safety is always the main issue.

Nobody was treated like crap, everyone went home safe & your buddy probably still hasn't learned his lesson.

lol

[Twin01cobra]

if the officer wants to check the vin #'s on the guns, wats he gonna say go ahead n pull them out 4 me, no he's gonna detain u so he can pull them out safely..thats all im sayin

Well he better have RAS before taking anything, just sayin. If not then he is in complete violation of your rights. As for VIN#'s, that applies to automobiles not guns. If you are not being detained then you are free to go, no in betweens. And if you are being detained for no reason then an attorney should be contacted immediately afterwards for legal advice.

Oh ya work on your grammer, it reminds me of reading text messages from my kids

[Twin01cobra]

if im the officer that was at ur window that nite n asked if u had guns in the car n u said ya, im not gonna let u reach around in ur car for a permit when u had wat 3 others with u when any one of them coulda had a gun..lets say u guys had ur permits already out and in ur hands, still idk if any of the weapons r stolen..if i wanted to check 2 make sure they werent stolen, i would pull all of u out n do a quick frisk to make sure all weapons r accounted for..y did they do it in the first place u ask, mayb its brentwoods SOP's to do that, idk..

I truely hope you never become a LEO until you learn how not to violate peoples rights.

[thedak]

I like this thread.

[thedak]

lmao

[Twin01cobra]

OP,

I understand what you are getting at.

There is a fine line between harrassing a law abiding citizen and police work.

Safety is always the main issue.

Nobody was treated like crap, everyone went home safe & your buddy probably still hasn't learned his leason.

lol

I'd really like to know why the question of weapons was even brought up without RAS. Is this normal procedejure?

[thedak]

I'd really like to know why the question of weapons was even brought up without RAS.

Police Officer can ask whatever they want to.

It is your choice to answer it or not.



Like if I ask you on a stop, "Sir, do you like getting killed by LSx powered vehicles ?"

You don't have to answer that.

[412mustangz]

Well he better have RAS before taking anything, just sayin. If not then he is in complete violation of your rights. As for VIN#'s, that applies to automobiles not guns. If you are not being detained then you are free to go, no in betweens. And if you are being detained for no reason then an attorney should be contacted immediately afterwards for legal advice.

Oh ya work on your grammer, it reminds me of reading text messages from my kids

lol my bad, i didn't kno this site was called steel city grammar n yes it ends in AR!

[Sonic03snake]

OP,

I understand what you are getting at.

There is a fine line between harrassing a law abiding citizen and police work.

Safety is always the main issue.

Nobody was treated like crap, everyone went home safe & your buddy probably still hasn't learned his leason.

lol

I don't know what to call it, it just didn't seem like it needed to go down that way. Like I said, you guys have alot of balls to do the job you do and its deff. something I don't envy but I have alot of respect for. Im not a gun nut, extreemist, I have a a 9mm and have carried it once or twice in the year or two ive owned it. I don't plan on calling a lawyer or chief, just find it disturbing to be pulled just because there was guns in the car and figured we have 3-4 LEO / Gun experts here and my questions would be answered. Other than that, I had no problem with them checking him out after he couldn't produce his permit, that is their job.

I just don't know about the quote about him being pulled all the time, sounds pretty strange. He is a mountain boy that lives in the middle of no where but is an engineer for a big company, can't see him causing too many problems.

[Troll]

Lou, you shoulda ran! hahahaha

[Twin01cobra]

Police Officer can ask whatever they want to.

It is your choice to answer it or not.

Yes I know that but most people don't.

Like if I ask you on a stop, "Sir, do you like getting killed by LSx powered vehicles ?"

You don't have to answer that.

Now that's funny, of course I would not give a yes or no answer, my answer would be more on the lines of a question "excuse me officer have you been drinking"

[thedak]

I need a drink after this thread.

[Twin01cobra]

lol my bad, i didn't kno this site was called steel city grammar n yes it ends in AR!

It gives me a headache trying to read your post, I have to get one of my kids to translate for me.

[Sonic03snake]

Police Officer can ask whatever they want to.

It is your choice to answer it or not.

This is what bothers me, I was honest and it seemed to back fire on me. This would make you want to be hesitant next time.