"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
The way I see it is that only 3 states in this country got it right, Alaska, Arizona and Vermont. There you don't need the govt's permission to excersize your rights.
As for Pa, I'm glad a test is not required as an individual should be responsible for his own actions. Also hunting and driving is considered a privlage and not a right, go figure.
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
To Twin01Cobra, do you feel that a convicted felon should be allowed to carry a firearm? Either openly or concealed? Just curious.
But to carry concealed.... or like you say in a car or such that the .gov defines as concealed..... what do you need to go get....? The LTCF.... to conceal... a license to conceal..... a permit to conceal..... a conceal carry permit.... whatever you want to call it, I think anyone would agree that the MAIN REASON anyone gets a LTCF is 99.5% of the time so that they can carry CONCEALED.
Poking fun at others:
Waa.....Waaa! It's not a conceal carry permit....Waaaaa!
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I don't have a permit.
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"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
This is pure silliness. Really it is...
You think convicted Felons should be able to possess a firearm, legally...
WOW !!! You work for the ACLU ? Geezus H Christ. GTFO
Let's get all the guys on the Megans Law List a LTCF.
Let's get all the drug dealers and users a LTCF.
How about all the guys convicted of Robbery and Burglary.
23 months in county then head over to the courthouse to get your LTCF.
LMAO
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This is the best thread ever. Thanks
Last edited by thedak; 09-08-2010 at 09:49 PM.
I also beleive that certain felons should NEVER be let out of jail, if that were the case then there would be no need for a Megans list.
Not all people who commited felonys are dangerous, some made mistakes at a young age and never did another thing wrong again. I have 2 freinds that fit this description, both now are over 45 and never got in trouble again. So they cannot own a firearm or vote because of it, these are the types I'm talking about.
Murderes, rapist, child molesters, kidnappers, drug dealers etc should never see the light of day again, so what I think doesn't even apply to these types as they would never get the opportunity.
I take it your a LEO, do you even beleive a citizen has a right to own a gun?
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
Last edited by Twin01cobra; 09-08-2010 at 10:38 PM.
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
Another question then to you. Not trying to beat up on you here, but honestly trying to see where the "Don't Tread on Me" crowd sits on some issues. So a person who is convicted of Possession with the Intent to Deliver (Heroin, Crack, Cocaine) you pick, should be allowed to get out of prison and carry a gun? Either concealed or open? For the record, I am a straight line republican/conservative and would never vote democrat!
Sorry while posting you posted about drug dealers. So you think that only certain times should the gov't take away your rights to carry a gun? Only if it fits into what you think is non-violent. Some people may think that a person who was convicted of selling Marijauna and took a Possession with the Intent to Deliver charge a non violent felony, but according to you they should have never been let out? What if they did it at a young age? So, I take it that only certain crimes should be forgiven and only certain curcumstance should count? You kind of went in circles there.
Well a line would have to be drawn somewhere, so who determines the line? You can have scenerio after scenerio of why this guy should or this guy should not. I beleive that a non violent offender should have his rights restored upon completeing his/hers time.
As for the drug dealers, well in my younger years I knew of quite a few from the neighborhood and none of them were mr nice guy drug dealers. And incase you haven't been paying attention most shootings that are done today are drug related, so they "drug dealers" should not be classified as non violent.
As for the pot heads that get busted and charged with intent, oh well then "don't do drugs" or carry around a pound of weed in your car and say "hey man I swear that's not mine", it is illegal ya know.
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in it's preservation"
General Douglas McArthur
Bumping this back up, as I just got my gun out to clean it...
I have yet to actually carrry my gun (had a CCW for 4 years now) but I have been pulled over and officer saw my CCW behind my license when I showed him the DL. This is in Beltzhoover at 2am (I made a wrong turn shortcutting over to Mt. Washington). I think he could have been much worse than he was, considering my car also has tinted windows. All he did was ask me if I "had that in the car with me," to which I replied No, and that he has my permission to search the vehicle if he'd like, but it's locked away at home. He declined, they gave me a warning for rolling a red light and I was back on my way.
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