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    Quote Originally Posted by 03SnakePlissken View Post
    Unless the law has changed since I last looked into it, seperate compartments could be seperate zipped compartments of a single duffle bag or range bag. Like put the pistol in the main compartment with no mags or ammo and place the mags and ammo in another zipped compartment. Place this out of reach of the driver and you should be fine. Maybe one of the fine LEOs on here can verify this as I admit that IANAL!

    Either way is fine as long as they are seperated. To avoid any possible hassle keep them in your trunk, unless your in a truck or van then just have them in the rear where they are not easily accessible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic03snake View Post
    I have always felt there is alot of mystery when it comes to all the laws pertaining to concealed carying. If you want to hunt legaly, you have to pass a test. If you want to drive legaly, you have to pass a test. If you want to carry a firearm, you go to the court house and unless your a convict, you leave there with your licence and little to no knowledge of the laws or what is acceptable behavior. I also think its stupid that all the different states have their own laws and other states permits they honor, this is something that should be honored nationwide.
    The way I see it is that only 3 states in this country got it right, Alaska, Arizona and Vermont. There you don't need the govt's permission to excersize your rights.

    As for Pa, I'm glad a test is not required as an individual should be responsible for his own actions. Also hunting and driving is considered a privlage and not a right, go figure.
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    To Twin01Cobra, do you feel that a convicted felon should be allowed to carry a firearm? Either openly or concealed? Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 03SnakePlissken View Post
    I've never quite grasped that. The permit is called a License To Carry Firarms, yet it is absolutely a requirement to legally carry a concealed firearm... and yet it is not required to carry 73 Glocks duct tapped to your body while walking down Main St.

    So the item that is not a lic to conceal is required to conceal.
    The item that is a Lic to carry a firearm is not needed to carry a firearm.
    If you call it a license to conceal, some faction of firearm enthusiasts get all bent over it and correct you that it is in fact NOT a lic to conceal.

    Yea, call me confused. I say it is a license to conceal firearms that is not called as such. If that is not what it is.... why go get one? What other function does it have? It does not matter what name you call it or stamp on the top, it really only serves the function..... to allow you to legally carry a concealed weapon. So in laymans terms.... it IS IN FACT a license to carry a concealed firearm...... but it is called a LTCF. The name is screwed up, but what it is and what it does is clear.
    You need a LCTF to OC in a city of the first class. It's just not for "concealment". OC in a vehicle/on a motorcycle/on a bicycle/on a scooter was ruled as "concealed", so you need it for there too. Ummmm that's all I have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxracer652 View Post
    You need a LCTF to OC in a city of the first class. It's just not for "concealment". OC in a vehicle/on a motorcycle/on a bicycle/on a scooter was ruled as "concealed", so you need it for there too. Ummmm that's all I have.
    But to carry concealed.... or like you say in a car or such that the .gov defines as concealed..... what do you need to go get....? The LTCF.... to conceal... a license to conceal..... a permit to conceal..... a conceal carry permit.... whatever you want to call it, I think anyone would agree that the MAIN REASON anyone gets a LTCF is 99.5% of the time so that they can carry CONCEALED.

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    lol plissken I agree people on PAFOA get WAY too bent out of shape when somebody says Permit instead of License.
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    I don't have a permit.

    I don't pack in Philly though, just at Starlite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5oh_93 View Post
    To Twin01Cobra, do you feel that a convicted felon should be allowed to carry a firearm? Either openly or concealed? Just curious.

    Your question really has nothing to do with this thread, but I'll give you my opinion anyways. I beleive after you served your time and payed your debt to society your rights should be fully restored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin01cobra View Post
    I beleive after you served your time and payed your debt to society your rights should be fully restored.
    This is pure silliness. Really it is...

    You think convicted Felons should be able to possess a firearm, legally...

    WOW !!! You work for the ACLU ? Geezus H Christ. GTFO

    Let's get all the guys on the Megans Law List a LTCF.

    Let's get all the drug dealers and users a LTCF.

    How about all the guys convicted of Robbery and Burglary.

    23 months in county then head over to the courthouse to get your LTCF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS3GTO View Post
    This is pure silliness. Really it is...

    You think convicted Felons should be able to possess a firearm, legally...

    WOW !!! You work for the ACLU ? Geezus H Christ. GTFO

    Let's get all the guys on the Megans Law List a LTCF.

    Let's get all the drug dealers and users a LTCF.

    How about all the guys convicted of Robbery and Burglary.

    23 months in county then head over to the courthouse to get your LTCF.

    LMAO


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    This is the best thread ever. Thanks
    I also beleive that certain felons should NEVER be let out of jail, if that were the case then there would be no need for a Megans list.

    Not all people who commited felonys are dangerous, some made mistakes at a young age and never did another thing wrong again. I have 2 freinds that fit this description, both now are over 45 and never got in trouble again. So they cannot own a firearm or vote because of it, these are the types I'm talking about.

    Murderes, rapist, child molesters, kidnappers, drug dealers etc should never see the light of day again, so what I think doesn't even apply to these types as they would never get the opportunity.

    I take it your a LEO, do you even beleive a citizen has a right to own a gun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin01cobra View Post
    Murderes, rapist, child molesters, kidnappers, drug dealers etc should never see the light of day again

    so what I think doesn't even apply to these types as they would never get the opportunity.
    What is acceptable felony then ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LS3GTO View Post
    What is acceptable felony then ?
    Non violent, as most others should never be let out of jail. I should have specified that in my first response.
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    Another question then to you. Not trying to beat up on you here, but honestly trying to see where the "Don't Tread on Me" crowd sits on some issues. So a person who is convicted of Possession with the Intent to Deliver (Heroin, Crack, Cocaine) you pick, should be allowed to get out of prison and carry a gun? Either concealed or open? For the record, I am a straight line republican/conservative and would never vote democrat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin01cobra View Post
    I take it your a LEO, do you even beleive a citizen has a right to own a gun?
    He's never had an issue with me owning guns? lol.
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    Sorry while posting you posted about drug dealers. So you think that only certain times should the gov't take away your rights to carry a gun? Only if it fits into what you think is non-violent. Some people may think that a person who was convicted of selling Marijauna and took a Possession with the Intent to Deliver charge a non violent felony, but according to you they should have never been let out? What if they did it at a young age? So, I take it that only certain crimes should be forgiven and only certain curcumstance should count? You kind of went in circles there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5oh_93 View Post
    Sorry while posting you posted about drug dealers. So you think that only certain times should the gov't take away your rights to carry a gun? Only if it fits into what you think is non-violent. Some people may think that a person who was convicted of selling Marijauna and took a Possession with the Intent to Deliver charge a non violent felony, but according to you they should have never been let out? What if they did it at a young age? So, I take it that only certain crimes should be forgiven and only certain curcumstance should count? You kind of went in circles there.
    Well a line would have to be drawn somewhere, so who determines the line? You can have scenerio after scenerio of why this guy should or this guy should not. I beleive that a non violent offender should have his rights restored upon completeing his/hers time.

    As for the drug dealers, well in my younger years I knew of quite a few from the neighborhood and none of them were mr nice guy drug dealers. And incase you haven't been paying attention most shootings that are done today are drug related, so they "drug dealers" should not be classified as non violent.

    As for the pot heads that get busted and charged with intent, oh well then "don't do drugs" or carry around a pound of weed in your car and say "hey man I swear that's not mine", it is illegal ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike5oh_93 View Post
    Another question then to you. Not trying to beat up on you here, but honestly trying to see where the "Don't Tread on Me" crowd sits on some issues. So a person who is convicted of Possession with the Intent to Deliver (Heroin, Crack, Cocaine) you pick, should be allowed to get out of prison and carry a gun? Either concealed or open? For the record, I am a straight line republican/conservative and would never vote democrat!
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    Bumping this back up, as I just got my gun out to clean it...

    I have yet to actually carrry my gun (had a CCW for 4 years now) but I have been pulled over and officer saw my CCW behind my license when I showed him the DL. This is in Beltzhoover at 2am (I made a wrong turn shortcutting over to Mt. Washington). I think he could have been much worse than he was, considering my car also has tinted windows. All he did was ask me if I "had that in the car with me," to which I replied No, and that he has my permission to search the vehicle if he'd like, but it's locked away at home. He declined, they gave me a warning for rolling a red light and I was back on my way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LS3GTO View Post
    Police Officer can ask whatever they want to.

    It is your choice to answer it or not.



    Like if I ask you on a stop, "Sir, do you like getting killed by LSx powered vehicles ?"

    You don't have to answer that.
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